Just found out about Cramp Camp and why he got 6 months

You bet on the trots yet you say Oliver betting on another runner is the worst thing you have seen in racing, are you for real?

Thats worse than Cramp pulling up the 1.30 shot? Please

Lloydy haven't you read the HRV Charter :

Our mission

“to develop a vibrant Harness Racing industry that promotes participation, integrity and racing excellence, grows wagering and other revenue streams and maximises returns to its stakeholders.”

How many boxes does Mildura trots tick off on the above

CEO says integrity is always at the top of their priorities

They all think their doing a great job !

4 weeks!!!

That's outrageous. Clearly they found him guilty of a snag job and thought that 4 weeks off was about the right penalty / deterrent.

The lunatics are running the asylum.

Sounds like The Castle .....so HRV have got Denis Denuto!!

Chipinawayatlife underwent a pre-race veterinary examination after having not raced for 12 months. This horse was subsequently cleared to start.
Stewards refrained from taking action against Nathan Jack ( Chipinawayatlife ), driver of the leader, for failing to comply with the sectional time requirements due to the sectional time indicator boards failing to operate.
Shes A Killer galloped soon after the start and was subsequently placed outside the mobile barrier draw.
It was noted racing around the first turn that Shes A Killer and Northerly Rain locked wheels for some distance and as a consequence Shes A Killer was checked while Northerly Rain was checked and galloped. Due to the circumstances no further action was taken.
Nathan Jack ( Chipinawayatlife) was queried in relation to the improved performance of this horse by comparison to its first start 12 months prior. Mr Jack stated that Chipinawayatlife had bowed a tendon during its last preparation and it had three trials of recent times and although the times recorded in those trials were moderate the stable has a high opinion of the horse’s capability and were very confident that Chipinawayatlife could race in a very forward position as it possesses significant gate speed or alternatively lead and be more than competitive in tonight’s field due to the current form and class of some of the runners. Mr Jack’s comments were noted.
Shayne Cramp (Hotasel) was found guilty of a charge under AR149(1) for failing to take all reasonable and permissible measures on his drive to ensure that his horse was given full opportunity to win or obtain the best possible placing in the field in that after trailing the leader throughout Mr Cramp elected to remain on the marker pegs and trail Chipinawayatlife when there was a reasonable and permissible opportunity to ease Shes A Killer wide leaving the back straight and approaching the home turn on the final occasion and also rounding the home turn on the final occasion there was an opportunity to restrain slightly back away from the inside sulky wheel of Misschinoise which was racing to his immediate outside and switch wider to improve around that horse. As a consequence of his failure to move wider stewards were satisfied Hotasel went to the line without being fully tested. The licence to drive in races of Mr Cramp was suspended for 4 weeks to commence midnight 14 March 2013. In assessing penalty stewards took into account the usual penalties that apply for breaches of this rule, Mr Cramp has been driving for 13 years and not breached AR149(1) previously, stewards also took into account the experience of Mr Cramp and the affects that a driving suspension would have on him.
Stewards intend to investigate all betting activity surrounding this race.

Tend to agree tyre kick
Also think that Stewards are looking to 'Self Preservation',maybe they try to enforce to a point but are always looking over the shoulder,e.g.less confrontation means I'm not upsetting the Back-Hand Cesspool that co exists in all codes known as Racing/Harness/Greyhound.
Doubt the betting activity will shed any light as you well know Lloydy every race who's gonna lead who's gonna hand up blah blah blah, taking $1.20 in most 4 legged events is short cut to the soup queue but in Harness people take it knowing this or that will take the front and that spells end of race.
Remember of the 3 codes Harness is the only code that a Hobbyist can be a competitor, regardless of skills or weight!.

Which give rise to a ? has any research ever been taken to see the difference of weight carried between lets say an average sized female(45kgs) and an overweight(upwards of 95kgs)male Hobbyist/Trainer/Driver over say the 1600 sprint ?
Guess only the horse can know.

Interesting stuff spy(are you the black or white one?)
So i guess if the Hobbyists were no more fields would be 5 max ?

Think he was slightly displeased about not being let in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLkJS_gSSSc

Hutchy not happy with his performance last week :-

HOTASEL (6) is a handy youngster who’s won two of four this season with two placings and hopefully will be driven a more aggressive race than last week when Shayne Cramp was suspended for electing to take an inside run that didn’t appear instead of coming wide at the 300.

Lloydy check your messages

Perfectly named Horse.

Strange how wasnt Kept on Fence tonight.
Had every Chance to Go 3 Pegs Last Lap
Even tried to Get Boxed in but a Horse Galloped.
Pulls Out 7 Wide tonight.
Must be a enquiry why never stayed on Fence

Could it be birds of a feather Mr Trotman?

Comment was made re ones actions and the support of by another, when 1 supports a trickster as you call it, I think comment close to the money. A lot of the actions they get up to, they couldn't if they weren't working in concert with SOME officials, and that goes for all 3 codes

some facts you people seem to be overlooking

March 7
Hotesel clearly crossed at start, this horse did gallop out as a 2yo and was put ODM.
No semaphore board working all night so driver in front knew he could go as slow as he wanted and not get fined.
Lead time 12.2 1/4s in 33.0, 31.3, 30.8 and last 1/4 27.9

March 14
Leader from March 7 is drawn 1 so Hotesel goes back at start. N Milne bbqs leader, drops out, sets race up for swoopers.
Lead time 12.1 1/4s in 29.5, 30.9, 29.5 and 30.2


Now if cramp goes 3 wide on March 7 do you honestly think he could run down leader in a sub 28 second 1/4 around Mildura?

some facts you people seem to be overlooking

March 7
Hotesel clearly crossed at start, this horse did gallop out as a 2yo and was put ODM.
No semaphore board working all night so driver in front knew he could go as slow as he wanted and not get fined.
Lead time 12.2 1/4s in 33.0, 31.3, 30.8 and last 1/4 27.9

March 14
Leader from March 7 is drawn 1 so Hotesel goes back at start. N Milne bbqs leader, drops out, sets race up for swoopers.
Lead time 12.1 1/4s in 29.5, 30.9, 29.5 and 30.2


Now if cramp goes 3 wide on March 7 do you honestly think he could run down leader in a sub 28 second 1/4 around Mildura?

Shows how little you know about harness racing Aussie
N Jack in front, Cramp would have had to pull back to get back behind the death horse. N Jack would have pi**ed off as soon as he seen that happen and Hotesel would have had to run a sub 27 1/4 which I highly doubt it could do. Would have ran 3rd .

The price of some of his horses isnt right as he is leading the Vic trainers premiership and for alot of punters it is easier to put multiple all ups on his runners then do any form.

n jack was on the leader? says it all really doesnt it

Hasn't Greg got positive swabs before? Weren't both investigated for blue magic? Multiple driving offences for both of them, with the latest one of the worst displays I've seen... Correct me if this is incorrect bayonet

I can't understand why any owner would leave a horse with them after this latest offence

Wow, bicarbing not a big deal?