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whoopi
04 Sep 12 08:15
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Any reason to stand him down has to be good for the game doesn't it?
I know I can't bet in races he's involved in.
I can't be the only one.
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Report Lets Elope September 5, 2012 12:12 PM BST
You're entitled to your opinion Stars just as I'm entitled to mine but I can assure that you no amount of craap being spewed forth on here from some people who I have zero respect for is going to change my mind.
Report Otto_Von_Bismarck September 5, 2012 12:14 PM BST
Did anyone who backed the Horse called Vandalised have a chance of winning any money?
Report Joel September 5, 2012 12:15 PM BST
Stars???
Report Lets Elope September 5, 2012 12:19 PM BST
Anyone who thinks vandalised would have or could have won that race has zero idea and is clearly on drugs.
Report Otto_Von_Bismarck September 5, 2012 12:41 PM BST
Let's you are guilty by association,please for the sake of humanity,don't comment on DN anymore,I beg you.I have never seen such a case like this.Freud would not have dreamed of such a case.
Report not4fun September 5, 2012 12:46 PM BST
think he would go well with a LAY tipping service

could even run it from inside

stars...do they have wifi in jails?
Report not4fun September 5, 2012 12:47 PM BST
i know they do in mental wardsCool
Report Otto_Von_Bismarck September 5, 2012 12:50 PM BST
Stars?,Not me my good man.How ever I know of you.Herr Fun
Report not4fun September 5, 2012 12:55 PM BST
hi le otto

did we meet in psych ward?
Report gardenstar September 5, 2012 1:06 PM BST
Apparently Bailey when asked had anybody ever spoken to him in the manor Nikolic had ,he replied "No..not even a trotting driver!" Disgraceful comment from someone who gained some of his experience on the back of a Harness stewardship. Harness people are incensed
Report Otto_Von_Bismarck September 5, 2012 1:06 PM BST
No ,I've just seen you on here,I rarely post,got some time off.
Report gardenstar September 5, 2012 1:06 PM BST
manner
Report bigted. September 5, 2012 1:08 PM BST
Embattled jockey Danny Nikolic has failed to win a stay of proceedings against Victoria’s chief racing steward Terry Bailey.

In an often bitter and tense hearing before the Racing Appeals And Disciplinary (RAD) Board, chief steward Terry Bailey claimed Nikolic had threatened him and his family, had launched a torrent of abuse against him and had attempted to intimidate him during Tuesday’s Seymour race meeting.

As a result, Bailey had banned Nikolic from riding indefinitely.

Nikolic, who now stands to miss the ride on glamour galloper Mosheen at Flemington on Saturday, countered with claims that Bailey had threatened to end his career and had fabricated the evidence against him.

The tribunal heard that the issue began as Nikolic rode to the starting gates for a race at Seymour and called out to Bailey as he passed him: “Keep your eyes on the road, Terry.”

Bailey later questioned Nikolic over the comment, asking him if he was making a threat.

Nikolic replied that it was a line from a television advertisement and it was meant as a joke.

According to evidence from both sides the issue then escalated before the next race when Bailey was about to take his position in the steward’s tower.

Bailey told the tribunal Nikolic approached him and said: “We’ve all got families c*** and we know where yours lives, c***.”

Nikolic described the allegation as “outrageous.”

Telling the tribunal it had been Bailey who issued the threat telling the jockey: “I told you I would f*** your career.”

He said he had no idea why Bailey would make false claims against him and that “everyone knows I’m fond of families.”

The tribunal heard Tuesday’s incident comes on top of revelations connecting Nikolic with allegedly fixed races and after the jockey has been questioned in relation to a murder.

RAD chairman Russell Lewis said his board preferred the evidence of Bailey and rejected Nikolic’s application for a stay of the order banning him from riding in races.





speaking of bad things by jocks ..P.Hall on Ysmael today Sad
Report Otto_Von_Bismarck September 5, 2012 1:09 PM BST
Disgraceful retort from Herr Steward.
Report Lets Elope September 5, 2012 1:13 PM BST
Hate to say it Garden but for once you and I agree on something. It's comments like that, that exposes Bailey's true character as he is clearly the perfect steward being a narrow minded, hypocritical, vindictive, priick.
Report Otto_Von_Bismarck September 5, 2012 1:14 PM BST
My remark was directed at Herr Gardenstar.
Report gardenstar September 5, 2012 1:16 PM BST
yawol
Report not4fun September 5, 2012 1:16 PM BST
maybe we have seen the last of him in the saddle

maybe next stop the clink

is the colonel still dabbering in the law enhaussen?
Report Lets Elope September 5, 2012 1:17 PM BST
Ted the horse is a suck and it had its birthday the other day when all the breaks went its way, I was on the winner Mcblitzem fro something and thought it was pretty soft on the line, Harvey put the stick away with about 75m to go.
Report not4fun September 5, 2012 1:19 PM BST
also maybe he might end up in psych ward
plead crazy if ever charged for putting a hit out on in-law
maybe share room with star boy
Report bigted. September 5, 2012 1:19 PM BST
think youll find p hall gets time pal...the horse is not a suck,they beat the others by lengths,ysmael gave it weight and hall didnt use the whip..
Report not4fun September 5, 2012 1:22 PM BST
also bit surprised re comment trot drivers

surely trot drivers would add the F bomb before the c word
Report Lets Elope September 5, 2012 1:25 PM BST
Ted it was never going to seriously trouble the winner for mine but you're entitled to your opinion
Report gardenstar September 5, 2012 1:25 PM BST
Mosheen ?? does Nikolic ride any other Smerdon horses ?
Report Lets Elope September 5, 2012 1:26 PM BST
He basically rides anything that his mate Sly owns I think you'll find.
Report bigted. September 5, 2012 1:28 PM BST
watch it again pal...

General: An Inquiry was opened and adjourned to a time and date to be fixed into Jockey P. Hall’s riding of YSMAEL in the straight. Evidence was taken from Jockey P. Hall and Trainer Mr B. Watkins and the Inquiry was adjourned to allow Stewards to consider the evidence put forward and review the previous performances of YSMAEL and the betting activity on this race.
Report Monday mike September 5, 2012 1:31 PM BST
With Spring racing on us.  Nikolic on Mosheen is not a good look.
Report Lets Elope September 5, 2012 1:33 PM BST
OK, I'll have to watch the replay I must admit though I was watching MCblitzem from the outset as I was on it and havent gone back and analysed the race properly yet apart from initially watching it, I think once from the turn onwards immediately after the race.
Report gardenstar September 5, 2012 1:34 PM BST
Papermate ?
Report Otto_Von_Bismarck September 5, 2012 1:37 PM BST
He has a mate called Sly!,Think I've heard enough,Taxi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report gardenstar September 5, 2012 1:39 PM BST
Whenever Mosheen runs Smerdon always says I've left it up to Danny on how to ride it...strange
Report Lets Elope September 5, 2012 1:40 PM BST
Just watched the replay of its previous start he only hit it in the last 100m of that race and that's when it fell over the line against that slug Exclusive Glow, McBlitzem is a lot better horse than it.
Report gardenstar September 5, 2012 1:41 PM BST
No one was more shocked in the ride on Golden Slipper day than Smerdon
Report bigted. September 5, 2012 2:11 PM BST
Let's..it was beaten half a length,gave it weight and was untouched by the rider..they beat the others out of sight..both good horses..it's previous start it come from last... How is that falling over the line Confused
Report Lets Elope September 5, 2012 2:15 PM BST
Gardenstar,
Meaning what, considering that it ran 2nd to an absolute superstar 2yo in Sepoy and was brilliantly ridden, not to mention the not so insignificant fact that it wasn't even trained by Smerdon then.LaughLaughLaugh


It helps if you get your facts straight mate before you start jumping on other people's bandwaggons otherwise you'll end up with egg on your face as it was trained by Corstens at the time.
Report gardenstar September 5, 2012 2:27 PM BST
Lets 2012 whatever race when it cleared out
Report gardenstar September 5, 2012 2:30 PM BST
on Golden slipper DAY!!! Get off the bottle
Report Lets Elope September 5, 2012 2:39 PM BST
Generally when you refer to a a particular raceday i.e.golden slipper day when a horse has actually run in the golden slipper I would have thought that most people would think you were referring to that race but hey that's just me, but anyway if that's what you meant I apologise for the comment.
Report gardenstar September 5, 2012 2:45 PM BST
I'm liking this apologising..thats twice now..see you know you were wrong about me
Report Lets Elope September 5, 2012 2:47 PM BST
I have no problem and never will have any problem apologising if I know I'm either in the wrong or have erred in some manner, unlike some on here.
Report Lets Elope September 5, 2012 2:52 PM BST
I know the race you're talking about but it pulled up sore that day and would have bolted in otherwise and he rode it like it like  the best horse in the race and to make streama chase. By the way I unloaded on it, that day.
Report gardenstar September 5, 2012 2:55 PM BST
Yeah but the trainer looked like he had no idea of what had just unfolded ie: he has no say
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON September 5, 2012 6:16 PM BST
Am I still on the thread about how many five year olds can a grown man splatter in a cage fight???

LetsElope scored about 15 scalps so far Laugh Interesting experiment.....please continue.....
Report Joel September 5, 2012 8:24 PM BST
I think the real loser in this whole situation is AAMI....they must have spent a fortune showing those ads...yet the age report yesterday suggest Danny said it was an RACV commercial Angry
Report whoopi September 5, 2012 9:54 PM BST
Lets...you gonna bake him a cake when he's in gaol?
Report whoopi September 5, 2012 9:56 PM BST
I wonder who "we" is, when he says "we know where your family lives"?
DN and Lets Elope perhaps?
Report spyvspy27 September 5, 2012 11:36 PM BST
Mr Cushion, the 2 above are both wannabes, DN a wannabe gangster and LE a wannabe big punter, but i think his race reading skills let him down in a big way, but hey nothing wrong with betting $10-20 a race
Report spyvspy27 September 5, 2012 11:43 PM BST
Lets Elope 30 Aug 12 04:32 Joined: 05 May 06 | Topic/replies: 5,588 | Blogger: Lets Elope's blog
Its an Ipswich greyhound race and you expect them to bet on supertab???? I'm pretty confident I know which pool would hold more.

For fark sake how dumb can you be, of course the local pool is going to hold more money on it 99 times out of 100 especially at some obscure low life greyhound meeting.


Joel 30 Aug 12 04:34 Joined: 14 Feb 04 | Topic/replies: 12,138 | Blogger: Joel's blog
Are you sure about that?




Joel 30 Aug 12 04:38 Joined: 14 Feb 04 | Topic/replies: 12,138 | Blogger: Joel's blog
Let's just looking at Rockhampton Dogs yesterday...race 1 win pool was nearly 20 k in Victoria and only 8k in QLD.......race 2 24k vs less than 9k



And Lets Elope calls someone a moron, speaks without an iota of an idea, but the good news is, he doesn't just specialise, now its all 3 codes and most sports, he has been carved up on each code, yet like water off a dumb ducks back he soldiers on and on
Report wombleoz September 5, 2012 11:47 PM BST
there are normally a fair few people in the mounting yard, surely someone overheard what was said???  if what Bailey said is true, why haven't the police been called???
Report spyvspy27 September 5, 2012 11:51 PM BST
Mr Oz, neither would be silly enough to say something loud enough for a witness to hear
Report whoopi September 5, 2012 11:55 PM BST
i think you'll find the police were called.
I think you'll also find witnesses may be thin on the ground because people don't want to be involved.
We are talking about an ongoing murder investigation after all.
Report spyvspy27 September 5, 2012 11:59 PM BST
The thing wrong with standing him down immediately is double standard.

Say something that could have a double meaning, ie taken as a threat, which there is no proof of btw and the jock gets stood down immediately, also fails in an attempt to get a stay of proceedings.

Suspend a jock for not letting one run on its merits, jock gains a stay of proceedings 99% if not 100% of the time, so basically stewards don't give afk when punters are ripped off to the tune of 100s of thousands, but say something we don't like directed at us and we will act swiftly.

I thought stewards were there to protect the punter as number 1, but they seem to put themselves 1st.

I am in no way condoning DNs behaviour btw.
Report whoopi September 6, 2012 12:02 AM BST
you have to wonder spy.
There was no clearer example of a horse being necked than that Kyneton race, yet they didn't pursue it.
It seems they think their job is done once they ask a question.
Report spyvspy27 September 6, 2012 12:18 AM BST
As more and more races surface that appear to be dubious,what RVL have to ask themselves is, have we got the right stewards in charge, as this all happened under their noses, while they were at the track supposedly doing their jobs

I think it was Dennis Napthine who said after the Smoking Aces story broke, WE run 10,000 since then and for only 1 bad race thats not too bad.

Care to make a follow up Mr Napthine?
Report spyvspy27 September 6, 2012 12:19 AM BST
Mr Cushion, i blame you for that 1.30 fav weighing in light yesterday
Report whoopi September 6, 2012 12:23 AM BST
I'm an ideas man.
Report Otto_Von_Bismarck September 6, 2012 12:28 AM BST
Herr Spy has the ability too see the emotional content contained by the Stewards.This is not the Steward's job,although I understand their reaction because of the situation,well spotted Herr Spy.

They are being made look foolish by not only the Jockey's but the Police too.
Report whoopi September 6, 2012 12:38 AM BST
You would think it would be mandatory that if a horse weighs in light that there'd be a comprehensive investigation into the betting on the race including Betfair and all Corporates....but that'd only be if you were actually trying to find something.
It's much easier to always put it down to an honest mistake and pretend nothing happened.
I attended the races for 25 years and don't remember any jockeys weighing in light.
All of a sudden it's happening on a semi regular basis.....but heaven forbid that anyone in authority asks any hard questions.
Report spyvspy27 September 6, 2012 12:38 AM BST
I am starting to see that Mr Cushion Laugh


Be careful Herr Bismarck or Mr Elope will want to sink you to the bottom of the sea Laugh
Report spyvspy27 September 6, 2012 12:40 AM BST
Atrial fibrillation has stopped affecting the shorties, buck jumping has stopped affecting the shorties, weighing in light might be the new fad Laugh
Report Otto_Von_Bismarck September 6, 2012 12:44 AM BST
Herr Let's has a problem,How do say,His back passage is connected to zee vront.Ha Ha Laughing Loudly now!
Report spyvspy27 September 6, 2012 1:03 AM BST
I vote Herr Bismarck zee new forum fuhrer ja ja Laugh
Report Otto_Von_Bismarck September 6, 2012 1:20 AM BST
We very easily forget the money that has been exchanged all over the Country on these Horses.A robbery of such magnitude would surely make the papers.You can see though,as time goes by,the contempt for the Industry and it's players grows daily.Not to mention the form get's all thrown out of wack.ja!
Report spyvspy27 September 6, 2012 2:06 AM BST
Joined: 25 Jan 12 | Topic/replies: 423 | Blogger: Otto_Von_Bismarck's blog
Herr Let's has a problem,How do say,His back passage is connected to zee vront.Ha Ha Laughing Loudly now!


Maybe you're right Herr Bismarck. Why else would a male give himself a forum name of a female horse? Maybe he is another Teen Queen but still in the closest?
Report whoopi September 6, 2012 2:09 AM BST
i would laugh.....but I called myself WhoopiShocked
Report spyvspy27 September 6, 2012 2:11 AM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report spyvspy27 September 6, 2012 2:13 AM BST
Still LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report bigted. September 6, 2012 8:25 AM BST
The RAD Board has adjourned the appeal by Danny Nikolic from tomorrow to 10am Weds 12 Sept by consent of all parties. He remains stood down.


def not riding Mosheen...now we can't lay it Joel GrinSad
Report bigted. September 6, 2012 8:31 AM BST
probly zahra rides
Report spyvspy27 September 6, 2012 8:42 AM BST
Well tipped Mr Ted
Report spyvspy27 September 6, 2012 8:44 AM BST
And its drawn right next to the fav Laugh
Report whoopi September 6, 2012 8:56 AM BST
correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't Mr Zahra one of the jockeys of interest in the first race being investigated?
Report Otto_Von_Bismarck September 6, 2012 9:05 AM BST
Herr DN likes to keep things in house so to speak ha ha,Would'nt want an outsider hooking it on him Laughing Loudly ja ja
Report Live_in_Hope September 6, 2012 9:06 AM BST
hasnt been a bed of roses for him either, lets not forget
Report Ozmugpunter September 6, 2012 9:09 AM BST
Are you blokes rostered to spruik SH1T? Next thing we now PCsadickhead or Marshal Ky or whateverthe**** he calls himself will be on here along with that rotten bitch megsy.
Report whoopi September 6, 2012 9:15 AM BST
isn't this just confirmation of the connection between the two.
Zahra might as well ride past the stewards tower with his middle finger up.
Report spyvspy27 September 6, 2012 12:29 PM BST
Yes Mr Cushion, its alleged that MZ received 5k for making it hard for the fav in the Smoking Aces race
Report gunyah September 20, 2012 4:33 AM BST
I think he may of had a win yesterday...
reading the news today.
Report Thebas September 20, 2012 4:40 AM BST
Nikolic did not admit to enticing jockeys riding at Seymour on September 4 to strike, in response to Nikolic being stood down at that meeting, but he did admit to telling the jockeys "if anyone is out of pocket here, I'll cover the difference if you choose to strike".

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/horseracing/nikolic-hearing-adjourned-again-20120920-2688r.html#ixzz26ygcoRGP


... was he gonna cover the owners and trainers out of pocket expenses for travelling to the meeting as well, plus refund entry fees for the patrons, and cover lost food costs for the caterers ?  Wink
Report Otto_Von_Bismarck September 20, 2012 4:48 AM BST
Yes he's very caring like that.TB Laugh
Report spyvspy27 September 20, 2012 4:49 AM BST
Most owners and trainers don't leg him up anymore Mr Bas, so doubt he cares too much about them
Report Thebas September 20, 2012 4:52 AM BST
Laugh Otto

and spy surely he has some care for the struggling caterers Wink
Report spyvspy27 September 20, 2012 4:57 AM BST
They would sell 3 hot dogs and 2 cans of drink, so i'm sure he would throw a tenner over to cover their loss Laugh
Report spyvspy27 September 20, 2012 4:58 AM BST
Herr Busyballs, are you any relation to forumite Herr Lickmyballs? Laugh
Report Thebas September 20, 2012 5:00 AM BST
3 hot dogs and 2 cans of drink, so i'm sure he would throw a tenner

a tenner ... been a while since you've eaten at the track i take it spy  Laugh
Report Otto_Von_Bismarck September 20, 2012 5:04 AM BST
No Relation Herr Frankenfurter,Just be careful around next Wed/Thurs.They tell me Yom Kippur is the day they will strike.
Report spyvspy27 September 20, 2012 5:20 AM BST
Been awhile since i've eaten full stop Mr Bas

Who is taking strike action Herr Biznuts, not zee jockeez?
Report bigted. September 21, 2012 9:22 AM BST
GAWN.....  found guilty on two charges.. penalty to come Excited
Report VeryLTU September 21, 2012 9:38 AM BST
lets already on the phone telling the judge he's got it all wrong Wink     goodnight danny.
Report Thebas September 21, 2012 11:00 AM BST
CONTROVERSIAL jockey Danny Nikolic has been found guilty of charges emanating from a confrontation with Victoria's chief steward Terry Baily at a race meeting earlier this month.

The Racing Appeals and Disciplinary Board found Nikolic guilty of the charges of conduct prejudicial to the interests of racing and of dishonest, corrupt, fraudulent or improper conduct.

Bailey claimed Nikolic threatened him and his family in a confrontation at the Seymour racing meeting on September 4.

He subsequently stood Nikolic down from riding indefinitely and stewards later laid the charges against the jockey.

Board chairman Brian Forrest, said Nikolic was not a reliable witness and was motivated by self preservation.

The penalty for Nikolic will be handed down on Tuesday week.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/turf-thoroughbreds/nikolic-found-guilty-over-steward-clash/story-fnajufri-1226479098598
Report Otto_Von_Bismarck September 21, 2012 11:17 AM BST
We put our money on these monkeys,No doubt Bruce Clark and Ritchie will be telling us all that we should be concentrating on the good side of racing?
Report VeryLTU September 21, 2012 1:50 PM BST
The Mr X evidence is verrry interesting. If believed, it appears some alarm bells have been sounding at the scrote and some of danny's "friends" have been given a subtle message while the stewards go about their work.
Report whoopi October 2, 2012 5:20 AM BST
The poop has been scooped!
Prosit! Awguri!
Report whoopi October 2, 2012 6:27 AM BST
How funny is it that the littlle pr1ck keeps wriggling out of the big stuff, and his ow fcking stupid mouth got him 2  years.....hilarious.LaughLaughLaugh
Report whoopi October 6, 2012 6:05 AM BST
makes me so happy to think of the little pr1ck sitting at home thinking about the money he would have made riding MosheenLaughLaugh
Report CHANTECLARE December 11, 2012 6:53 AM GMT
Relative of Nikolic captured on CCTV collecting on Smoking Aces race
Nic Ashman
Monday, 10 December 2012

A relative of embattled jockey Danny Nikolic has been captured on closed-circuit TV collecting winnings on the race the jockey allegedly fixed.

CCTV from Melbourne's Crown Casino could prove vital in a criminal case against Nikolic and jockey Mark Zahra over allegations they conspired to manipulate the outcome of a race won by Smoking Aces at Cranbourne in April 2011.

from Racenet

Fairfax Media reported that Police believe the third party was used by Nikolic to disguise his betting on the race.

Police have completed a brief of evidence against Nikolic that has been sent to the Office of Public Prosecutions.

The jockey is currently serving a two-year disqualification after being found guilty by Racing Victoria's Racing Appeals and Disciplinary Board for threatening Victoria's chief steward Terry Bailey.
Report CHANTECLARE December 11, 2012 6:53 AM GMT
from RACENET
Report whoopi December 11, 2012 7:10 AM GMT
was there audio? Was it a frail little man who mumbled "farkwits and clowns?"
Report VeryLTU December 12, 2012 12:56 AM GMT
testing testing... ahhhh .. hey joe is that a bomb in your pants ?? a hushed comment like this at crwon will see a dozen security guards sniffing your chair in around thirty seconds.
Report Back High Lay Low December 21, 2012 6:32 AM GMT
Nikolic fails in VCAT appeal

Disqualified jockey Dan Nikolic has failed in his appeal to VCAT against a two-year disqualification.

Nikolic’s disqualification stems from an altercation with RVL Chairman Of Stewards Terry Bailey at Seymour racecourse on September 4, where Nikolic allegedly threatened Bailey and his family.

The Racing and Appeals Disciplinary Board, headed by Judge Brian Forrest, outed Nikolic over the incident, disqualifying him for two years. Nikolic then took his appeal to VCAT.

Nikolic was found guilty on two charges, one for misconduct and the other for acting in a manner prejudicial to the image, interest and welfare of racing.

He was found guilty of threatening Terry Bailey and his family at Seymour races on September 4.

VCAT today released no details other than to advise the appeal by Nikolic had been dismissed.

New RVL CEO, Bernard Saundry, said he welcomed the decision by VCAT to affirm the finding of the RAD Board, which "vindicates the actions of the Racing Victoria stewards," he said.

VCAT's Judge Macnamara said he has reserved his decision on penalty with the case listed for administrative mention in VCAT on January 22, 2013.


http://www.racingnetwork.com.au/nikolic-fails-in-vcat-appeal/tabid/83/newsid/11126/default.aspx
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