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16 Mar 12
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Hard to believe an official of an AFL club would make such comments in the current climate.
Outrageous stupidity and deserved to lose his job
Outrageous stupidity and deserved to lose his job
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I'll say it again would it not have been for him tobe intensively counselled and have it clearly illustrated why it is perceived as hurtful rather than dmagaing seems the afl is all about counselling and prevention etc except when iy suits their particular agenda.
That is the very definition of hypcrisy and the AFL could teach a master degree in the subject.
That is the very definition of hypcrisy and the AFL could teach a master degree in the subject.
That should read as
I'll say it again would it not have been better for him to be intensively counselled.
I'll say it again would it not have been better for him to be intensively counselled.
It would certainly not have been better for the Adelaide Crows to have him counselled.
By the time that counselling had taken place, they would have lost millions in sponsorship, membership etc. Their business would likely not have existed had he remained attached to their brand.
As idealistic as you may want to be, the lack of common business sense in your posts is bewildering. His position was untenable in the extreme and the club had to dismiss him immediately to detach their brand from this level of racism, which they did.
The thread is not about the AFL and any hypocrity you perceive, it is about common business sense and anyone who thinks he could have kept his position is on another planet
By the time that counselling had taken place, they would have lost millions in sponsorship, membership etc. Their business would likely not have existed had he remained attached to their brand.
As idealistic as you may want to be, the lack of common business sense in your posts is bewildering. His position was untenable in the extreme and the club had to dismiss him immediately to detach their brand from this level of racism, which they did.
The thread is not about the AFL and any hypocrity you perceive, it is about common business sense and anyone who thinks he could have kept his position is on another planet
Are you the AFL's unofficial spokeperson AD because your talking about as much craap as they do, lost millions in sponsorship you are dreaming, the Crows would have got far more credit from all and sundry except for the PC fanatics by having Mr Rendell intensively counselled and educated to have a clearer understanding of the situation.
there was talk of a sponsor threatening to walk if he didn't go Lets - understandably so I'd suggest, companies don't want to be associated with this kind of thing - that is also why counselling wasn't enough - if what he said was true, he actively discriminated against people on the basis of race
from this level of racism, you are kidding there is no proof whatsoever that had any effect upon the Crows recruiting, I'll say it again the guy expressed an opinion in private that was grossly misinterpreted and taken out of context.
He is expected to counsel young recruits himself....so the counsellor needs counseling?
He needs re-training.
I hope he can put his case that it was not a personal opinion ....but a perception of an underlying theme in recruiting...and if so it will flush it out of the system, and some good will come of it.
I hope he is not lost to the industry if he can convince them of his position that it was not a personal belief, that he acted upon.
He needs re-training.
I hope he can put his case that it was not a personal opinion ....but a perception of an underlying theme in recruiting...and if so it will flush it out of the system, and some good will come of it.
I hope he is not lost to the industry if he can convince them of his position that it was not a personal belief, that he acted upon.
we get his side of the story tomorrow night Lets, i'm looking forward to hearing it
Let's a major sponsor told the club they would not continue their sponsorship (worth a significant sum) should Rendell not be dismissed. This was no doubt only the tip of the iceberg.
So it is actually fact that the club would have suffered financially should he continue. It is no secret over here so do yourself a favour and be graceful and at least don't argue that point.
If you, me or anyone else did or said something that would cost our employer at a minimum hundreds of thousands we would be dismissed immediately, regardless of our race. Not to mention the uproar that would occur the next time the club did not recruit an indigenous player, not to mention how certain indigenous players currently at the club would distance themselves from the club if this comment was not met the harshest of remedies (their highest profile indigenous player was fuming when he found out). There would have been no end to the contraversy and it would have completely derailed the club.
If you can't understand this there is no helping you, but I know full well you will argue.
I hope Rendell can somewhat retain some level of credability, as people who know him have told me he is a genuine guy, but he made a major mistake for which he has suffered the correct penalty
So it is actually fact that the club would have suffered financially should he continue. It is no secret over here so do yourself a favour and be graceful and at least don't argue that point.
If you, me or anyone else did or said something that would cost our employer at a minimum hundreds of thousands we would be dismissed immediately, regardless of our race. Not to mention the uproar that would occur the next time the club did not recruit an indigenous player, not to mention how certain indigenous players currently at the club would distance themselves from the club if this comment was not met the harshest of remedies (their highest profile indigenous player was fuming when he found out). There would have been no end to the contraversy and it would have completely derailed the club.
If you can't understand this there is no helping you, but I know full well you will argue.
I hope Rendell can somewhat retain some level of credability, as people who know him have told me he is a genuine guy, but he made a major mistake for which he has suffered the correct penalty
What's the big deal?? So the guy doesn't want aboriginal dudes in his team. So what? Maybe he's had some bad experiences with them in the past and he doesn't want to take the chance of it happening again.
The world's gone mad. Say you want to employ a male aged between 20 and 30. You want him to be Australian,as in anglo style aussie,so you know he understaands English. You can't put that in the ad so you have to put up with seeing females, males not aged between 20-30 and non anglos until you finally find the person you want. Wouldn't it just save everyone a whole lot of time if you could say exactly who you want - others need not apply.
All this artificial moralising makes me sick.
The world's gone mad. Say you want to employ a male aged between 20 and 30. You want him to be Australian,as in anglo style aussie,so you know he understaands English. You can't put that in the ad so you have to put up with seeing females, males not aged between 20-30 and non anglos until you finally find the person you want. Wouldn't it just save everyone a whole lot of time if you could say exactly who you want - others need not apply.
All this artificial moralising makes me sick.
Insight on SBS this week ...It's about how racist Australia is...One girl says "why can't a Sudanese guy be seen on T.V eating Weet Bix" ffs lol.
DA what if he has had bad experiences with White Players as well? As there no doubt has been.
Who does he recruit then?
Every single person in this country is entitled to a fair go. Because each of us is an individual. We all act the way we do because we are individuals no matter our skin colour or ethnicity.
Two people who grew up in near indentical circumstances with similiar parents and living enviornment could and do often grow up to lead very different lives not influenced by each other or someone else's life.
Walk a mile in my shoes........ and you will end up with sore feet.
We are all different and should not be judged by what some one else did or didn't do because they had the same skin colour or lived in a similar enviornment.
That is why we have laws to protect the individual from being judged and denied a fair go by linking them to a particular colour or race.
Who does he recruit then?
Every single person in this country is entitled to a fair go. Because each of us is an individual. We all act the way we do because we are individuals no matter our skin colour or ethnicity.
Two people who grew up in near indentical circumstances with similiar parents and living enviornment could and do often grow up to lead very different lives not influenced by each other or someone else's life.
Walk a mile in my shoes........ and you will end up with sore feet.
We are all different and should not be judged by what some one else did or didn't do because they had the same skin colour or lived in a similar enviornment.
That is why we have laws to protect the individual from being judged and denied a fair go by linking them to a particular colour or race.
So what and who cares? Surely a man is entitled to employ who he likes? Is he allowed to choose the brand of beer he drinks or you want to control that too? Surely everyone is entitled to their opinions. Does his have to be the same as yours?
AFL ..Do you think it's right that Santa has been taken out of Schools?...How about our traditions ..Do they mean anything?
I'm with DA. Leaving aside what the world wants to hear, blind freddy knows that people of Aboriginal descent
have a far different "register" of loyalty/ priority/ success/ family than anglos have. The "go-home factor" is
undeniable and obviously important when major investment is put into these draft "picks". Doesn't mean they won't be
picked.... just a factor in the decision. His words may have been unfortunate but if it was behind closed doors..
don't imagine there'd be many left in the recruiting sections of any AFL club if EVERY past conversation was reported.
have a far different "register" of loyalty/ priority/ success/ family than anglos have. The "go-home factor" is
undeniable and obviously important when major investment is put into these draft "picks". Doesn't mean they won't be
picked.... just a factor in the decision. His words may have been unfortunate but if it was behind closed doors..
don't imagine there'd be many left in the recruiting sections of any AFL club if EVERY past conversation was reported.
F/F/S i post that and you come back with a question about santa, and DA comes back with something about me stopping him from drinking the beer that he chooses.
They're not choosing who needs to be thrown off the boat into open sea, AFL. They are choosing a recruit to play
football for their team. If not selected........other clubs may then recruit them.
How's that?
football for their team. If not selected........other clubs may then recruit them.
How's that?
Think you're slightly off topic there Lazza. AFL was trying to point out that you shouldn't charactarise people and lump them all together, just because of their ethnic background.Everyone is an individual lmo
How many White players have gone home compared to Black Players is irrelevent.
It says more about that specific club than it says about the colour of the player.
Why has any player white or black gone home? It says more about the processes/programmes the club has to facilitate any interstate player.
Many black and white intrastate players have stayed at their clubs and to deny any individual player the opportunity to play based on what other players of the same color have done is doing that player and your club a disservice.
It says more about that specific club than it says about the colour of the player.
Why has any player white or black gone home? It says more about the processes/programmes the club has to facilitate any interstate player.
Many black and white intrastate players have stayed at their clubs and to deny any individual player the opportunity to play based on what other players of the same color have done is doing that player and your club a disservice.
LOL Lazza.....lucky i have allowed you to drink the drink of your choice. 
Well that sounds politically correct. Dreamy bulshitt ....but definately pc.
Are you surprised that the Fastnet Rock yearlings are "expensive" and much sought after?
Are you surprised that the Fastnet Rock yearlings are "expensive" and much sought after?
and I'm not referring to his colour 
are you surprised that more draftees are above 6 foot than below?
Didn't know Santa wasn't in schools Lazza - only a fairytale anyway. Ouzo - now there's a few memories - Santorini.... Ios... Samos...Corfu... - many a bottle sunk Wish I was that age again 
Wish I was that age again
Interesting interview - seems like a genuine guy that has his heart in the right place and just stuffed up with a throw away line said in the heat of the moment
I'd like to hear Jason Mifsud's version of the story - it's just not adding up
scape goat??? media has a lot to answer for i'd suggest
either way, he said it and it got out for whatever reason - right decision to resign
I'd like to hear Jason Mifsud's version of the story - it's just not adding up
scape goat??? media has a lot to answer for i'd suggest
either way, he said it and it got out for whatever reason - right decision to resign
Very interesting interview
Seems unlucky in a lot of ways, but as already suggested on this thread blind Freddie could see he could not remain at the club, and he stated that he fully understands the reasons why
Seems unlucky in a lot of ways, but as already suggested on this thread blind Freddie could see he could not remain at the club, and he stated that he fully understands the reasons why
I should add that the thread title is poor on my behalf and would like to retract the overtone
He is guilty of stupidity and nothing more it would seem, unfortunately put himself in a position where his employment was untenable and has suffered the consequence of a poorly thought out 3 second comment
He is guilty of stupidity and nothing more it would seem, unfortunately put himself in a position where his employment was untenable and has suffered the consequence of a poorly thought out 3 second comment
I haven'nt seenthe intrview as not aired in WA yet, but by the sound of it , it what I maintained all along that he was grossly taken out of context. Maybe now a little bit more sanity will prevail in this discussion.
What you said all along was he had to keep his job. He himself that was not possible because of commercial reality
Some of us admit we are wrong, its about time you did
Some of us admit we are wrong, its about time you did
Lets, Rate reply seems to have 5 gold stars 
No-one else even has a shimmer of gold on ONE star
Can't be wrong.
No-one else even has a shimmer of gold on ONE star
Can't be wrong.
and as I posted that last comment......... all the gold has gone!! WTF
I'm going to bed.
I'm going to bed.
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
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I'm with DA. Leaving aside what the world wants to hear, blind freddy knows that people of Aboriginal descent have a far different "register" of loyalty/ priority/ success/ family than anglos have.
.....................................................................................................
What an insulting statement....to blacks and whites
You must have very powerful powers of observation, to be able to spot a black man and a white man walking down the street together, and having never met them.... or even heard a word they ever uttered, or know their family, or their job.......
but you know that the black man has a far "Different Register" of loyalty/ priority/ success/ family than the white man walking next to him, purely based on the colour of his skin.
You infer that Every Anglo has the same "Register" of loyalty/ priority/ success/ family as all other Anglo's
and you infer that every person of Aboriginal descent has the same Register" of loyalty/ priority/ success/ family as all other persons of Aboriginal descent...............
HAVE YOU NOT GOT THE WORD "INDIVIDUAL" IN YOUR VOCABULARY?
So if these two people applied to you for a job, you wouldn't even need to speak to them because you have their sense of loyalty/ priority/ success/ and family nailed simply by looking at them.
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I'm with DA. Leaving aside what the world wants to hear, blind freddy knows that people of Aboriginal descent have a far different "register" of loyalty/ priority/ success/ family than anglos have.
.....................................................................................................
What an insulting statement....to blacks and whites
You must have very powerful powers of observation, to be able to spot a black man and a white man walking down the street together, and having never met them.... or even heard a word they ever uttered, or know their family, or their job.......
but you know that the black man has a far "Different Register" of loyalty/ priority/ success/ family than the white man walking next to him, purely based on the colour of his skin.
You infer that Every Anglo has the same "Register" of loyalty/ priority/ success/ family as all other Anglo's
and you infer that every person of Aboriginal descent has the same Register" of loyalty/ priority/ success/ family as all other persons of Aboriginal descent...............
HAVE YOU NOT GOT THE WORD "INDIVIDUAL" IN YOUR VOCABULARY?
So if these two people applied to you for a job, you wouldn't even need to speak to them because you have their sense of loyalty/ priority/ success/ and family nailed simply by looking at them.
I asked you two questions, if you could please respond to these, AFL, I look forward to responding to your post.
Are you surprised that the Fastnet Rock yearlings are "expensive" and much sought after?
are you surprised that more draftees are above 6 foot than below?
Cheers
Are you surprised that the Fastnet Rock yearlings are "expensive" and much sought after?
are you surprised that more draftees are above 6 foot than below?
Cheers
Fastnet Rock yearlings are not the only yearlings in the market. Nor do they ALL prove to be fast.
Not all AFL footballers/draftees are over 6 foot?
HTH.
Cheers.
Not all AFL footballers/draftees are over 6 foot?
HTH.
Cheers.
Can you judge a person's "register" of loyalty/ priority/ success and family...... simply by looking at the colour of their skin?
why should Matthew Rendell hang his head in shame?
i guess people read the media print and think its gospel...shakes head
i guess people read the media print and think its gospel...shakes head
what he said was taken out of context and hung out to dry.
and fatboy demetriou made it worst for him. rendell has helped more indigenous footballers than any other person within the AFL
and fatboy demetriou made it worst for him. rendell has helped more indigenous footballers than any other person within the AFL
Are you surprised that the Fastnet Rock yearlings are "expensive" and much sought after?
Fastnet Rock yearlings are not the only yearlings in the market. Nor do they ALL prove to be fast.
are you surprised that more draftees are above 6 foot than below?
Not all AFL footballers/draftees are over 6 foot?
Are those supposed to be answers? Do you not understand them?
Don't have any simpler, so there seems little point responding to your odd post ,now that is
apparent.
Very strange response. Oh well.
btw, the name of the INDIVIDUAL that Matt Rendell was speaking of.........is????
Fastnet Rock yearlings are not the only yearlings in the market. Nor do they ALL prove to be fast.
are you surprised that more draftees are above 6 foot than below?
Not all AFL footballers/draftees are over 6 foot?
Are those supposed to be answers? Do you not understand them?
Don't have any simpler, so there seems little point responding to your odd post ,now that is
apparent.
Very strange response. Oh well.
btw, the name of the INDIVIDUAL that Matt Rendell was speaking of.........is????
AFL doesnt like the fact that he's been exposed now as jumping on the RACIST band waggon this guy was clearly trying to help the situation of indigenous players in the AFL it was also clearly a throwaway line he was saying that this was the situation that it is coming to if we dont do something positive immediately and he's been absolutely railroaded by his club and in particular Jason Mifsud & the AFL.
Demetriou and Sergeant Schultz (adrian anderson) are the people who should be standing down over this controversy as usual demetriou is nothing but a useless fat bag of hot air.
Adelaide should have had the balls to say to their sponsors hold o for just a minute there there is always two sides to every story listen to what Matt has to say publicly first and then you can make up your mind.
Absolutely disgraceful the way this man has been pilloried and cast as almost some sort of secret Klu Klux Klan member or something by the media and self appointed experts on here and around the nation and in the media, what on earth is this country coming to.
Demetriou and Sergeant Schultz (adrian anderson) are the people who should be standing down over this controversy as usual demetriou is nothing but a useless fat bag of hot air.
Adelaide should have had the balls to say to their sponsors hold o for just a minute there there is always two sides to every story listen to what Matt has to say publicly first and then you can make up your mind.
Absolutely disgraceful the way this man has been pilloried and cast as almost some sort of secret Klu Klux Klan member or something by the media and self appointed experts on here and around the nation and in the media, what on earth is this country coming to.
Do you know the name of the "INDIVIDUAL" Matt Rendell was referring to , Lets?
You just have to laugh at some
No one in the country, INCLUDING RENDELL HIMSELF, believes he could keep his job in the circumstances.
Rendell very clearly stated his position was untenable.
But of course this expert Lets Elope wants to bag everyone who holds this belief in every post he makes.
Everyone else can't be wrong, regardless of what you think of Rendell it is impossible to argue he could keep his position. You continue to make a fool of yourself by not conceeding that this is obviously the correct and only action. People would take you much more seriously if you debated properly and conceeded when it is now publically clear he had to stand down
No one in the country, INCLUDING RENDELL HIMSELF, believes he could keep his job in the circumstances.
Rendell very clearly stated his position was untenable.
But of course this expert Lets Elope wants to bag everyone who holds this belief in every post he makes.
Everyone else can't be wrong, regardless of what you think of Rendell it is impossible to argue he could keep his position. You continue to make a fool of yourself by not conceeding that this is obviously the correct and only action. People would take you much more seriously if you debated properly and conceeded when it is now publically clear he had to stand down
Im saying if commonsense prevailed, a quality sadly missing in action these days and if people hadn't reacted in total hysteria that the bloke would justifiably still have his job and not had his reputation unnecessarily and irreparably sullied.
Was I not correct when I stated almost certainly the guy was taken totally out of context, he couldn't have held his position for a long as he had if he was actually racist, any fool with an ounce of commonsense would have realised that.
And I maintain that if adelaide had been strong and had the integrity to say hang on we know the character of this guy this isn't right, we owe it to the club and him to listen to his public explanation of what actually occurred.
West Coast sponsors didnt jump ship enmasse with the cousins and drug furore how about considering the possiblity remote though it may be that the sponsor may have been looking to jump ship anyway? after all Adelaide have been poor by their standards in recent seasons.
I think you will find now that the truth of the matter is coming out and people are realising how this guy was railroaded rather than just having the typical AFL propaganda broadcast rxclusively that the pendulum of opinion has well and truly swung in the other direction and that Adelaide would have gained far more kudos in the long run for standing their ground and at least allowing their man to air the other side of the story and then if people weren't satisfied with the explanation then they could have justifiably moved on his employment but to do so prior to the public, sponsors etc hearing the truth of the matter was simply gutless and nothing short of disgraceful.
Was I not correct when I stated almost certainly the guy was taken totally out of context, he couldn't have held his position for a long as he had if he was actually racist, any fool with an ounce of commonsense would have realised that.
And I maintain that if adelaide had been strong and had the integrity to say hang on we know the character of this guy this isn't right, we owe it to the club and him to listen to his public explanation of what actually occurred.
West Coast sponsors didnt jump ship enmasse with the cousins and drug furore how about considering the possiblity remote though it may be that the sponsor may have been looking to jump ship anyway? after all Adelaide have been poor by their standards in recent seasons.
I think you will find now that the truth of the matter is coming out and people are realising how this guy was railroaded rather than just having the typical AFL propaganda broadcast rxclusively that the pendulum of opinion has well and truly swung in the other direction and that Adelaide would have gained far more kudos in the long run for standing their ground and at least allowing their man to air the other side of the story and then if people weren't satisfied with the explanation then they could have justifiably moved on his employment but to do so prior to the public, sponsors etc hearing the truth of the matter was simply gutless and nothing short of disgraceful.
Let's Stephen Trigg just spoke on Adelaide radio - do yourself a favour and get a copy of the interview. I think then you will understand why he could not remain.
I know that the mainstream view is that his position was untenable, my point that I have expressed repeatedly is that just because it's the prevailing mainstream view at the time doesn't mean that it's correct as has been illustrated on here & elsewhere on numerous occasions.
I'm entitled to my opinion and your entitled to yours, do you really expect the adelaide officials to just come out and say oh we made a mistake by jumping the gun on this matter, what planet do you live on.
I'm entitled to my opinion and your entitled to yours, do you really expect the adelaide officials to just come out and say oh we made a mistake by jumping the gun on this matter, what planet do you live on.
Lets Elope 20 Mar 12 07:19
I'm entitled to my opinion and your entitled to yours
That is actually the only time you have expressed yourself without calling me a d!ckhead or referring to me as talking cr@p or something similar. Not that hard is it
Unfortunately idealism rarely meets reality, and this is one of those circumstances.
I would still urge you to get a copy of the interview if you are genuinely interested. Trigg mentioned a couple of things that Rendell neglected to mention last night
I'm entitled to my opinion and your entitled to yours
That is actually the only time you have expressed yourself without calling me a d!ckhead or referring to me as talking cr@p or something similar. Not that hard is it
Unfortunately idealism rarely meets reality, and this is one of those circumstances.
I would still urge you to get a copy of the interview if you are genuinely interested. Trigg mentioned a couple of things that Rendell neglected to mention last night
what about misfud
they're all throwing rendel under the bus..
still think what dipper said was worse..
still an afl employee..
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
they're all throwing rendel under the bus..
still think what dipper said was worse..
still an afl employee..
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Couldn't agree more Ted opportunistic grandstanding on his behalf typical of the AFL
Can't understand AD how you couldnt scertain that I was expressing an opinion all along but anyway what I was saying about you and others that was craap was that the guy was racist clearly he wasnt. Yet any number of people on here wanted to have him hung drawn and quartered.
You should know from the extensive campaign that I and others waged on here about the WA racing jounalist's innocence and the complicity of RWWA and the WA Turf club including their former CEO in that case that not everything powerful officials state is always as it seems or as it appears in some sections of the media.
You should know from the extensive campaign that I and others waged on here about the WA racing jounalist's innocence and the complicity of RWWA and the WA Turf club including their former CEO in that case that not everything powerful officials state is always as it seems or as it appears in some sections of the media.
what he said was racist Lets, now that his side of the story is out there it's obvious t was in context but he says himself that he shouldn't have said it, agreed the mud would stick and resigned
he did the right thing imo
I hope he is wrong though and the mud doesn't stick - he seems to be a decent guy
he did the right thing imo
I hope he is wrong though and the mud doesn't stick - he seems to be a decent guy
Womble how can someone using a throwaway line to state what a situation could actually get to if decisiive action isn't taken be racist, people need to stop hidng from statements of uncomfortable facts by mmediately labelling them racist, pretending a problem doesn't exist, doesn't make it any less of a problem.
Your last statement indicates very clearly you have not listened to the interview I referred you to and therefore is inaccurate
I suggest before you make any more assertions you get access to all the facts, so far you have heard one side of the story and you don't actually even know the facts on the issue you speak
I suggest before you make any more assertions you get access to all the facts, so far you have heard one side of the story and you don't actually even know the facts on the issue you speak
the comments happen in january didnt they??
must have really upset misfud
for him to leave 2 months
must have really upset misfud
for him to leave 2 months
and now the Queen of the muff divers is in trouble for saying PM Juliar has a big arse
ffs
ffs
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/131122/default.aspx
Crows protecting club honour
By Harry Thring 7:24 PM Tue 20 Mar, 2012
ADELAIDE CEO Steven Trigg has defended the way his club handled the forced resignation of former recruiter Matt Rendell, saying it had to act quickly to avoid accusations of racism.
Trigg also denied the AFL ordered the resignation of Rendell.
"Quite clearly there was a very, very strong and angry reaction from the executive and from Andrew (Demetriou) once they had known about it from Jason (Misfud)," he said on Adelaide radio station 5AA.
"That was communicated to us very strongly as you can imagine. [But] was that [an order to] deal with it in a certain way? No, it was 'you deal with it'."
Adelaide has been criticised for forcing Rendell's resignation too swiftly after last Friday's revelation, but Trigg said that the speed with which the former recruiter's comments came to light meant the club had no choice.
Trigg said he became aware of Rendell's comments last Wednesday and by Friday morning the issue was on the front page of Melbourne newspaper The Age.
"If we hadn't been dealing with it straight away, in our view…we'd be perceived as being racist," he said.
Trigg also rejected criticisms that has implied the club refused to support Rendell.
"I know that criticism is out there today, but I reject it," Trigg said.
"I'd like to think that over many years we have stood by him; there have been a few hiccups along the way....
"This particular one, in terms of the circumstances, it just couldn't be worked through or couldn't be forgiven. It is not in keeping with our club values."
Rendell appeared on a television program on Monday night to explain his side of the story, but Trigg said, ultimately, it didn't matter whether his comments had been taken out of context.
"He (Rendell) doesn't a hold grudges. He's not a racist, he's not any of those things and we can all put our hands on our heart and say that," he said.
"[But] if language gets loose, or if it's interpreted poorly, the outcomes can be so dire and that's unfortunately what's happened in this situation."
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Crows protecting club honour
By Harry Thring 7:24 PM Tue 20 Mar, 2012
ADELAIDE CEO Steven Trigg has defended the way his club handled the forced resignation of former recruiter Matt Rendell, saying it had to act quickly to avoid accusations of racism.
Trigg also denied the AFL ordered the resignation of Rendell.
"Quite clearly there was a very, very strong and angry reaction from the executive and from Andrew (Demetriou) once they had known about it from Jason (Misfud)," he said on Adelaide radio station 5AA.
"That was communicated to us very strongly as you can imagine. [But] was that [an order to] deal with it in a certain way? No, it was 'you deal with it'."
Adelaide has been criticised for forcing Rendell's resignation too swiftly after last Friday's revelation, but Trigg said that the speed with which the former recruiter's comments came to light meant the club had no choice.
Trigg said he became aware of Rendell's comments last Wednesday and by Friday morning the issue was on the front page of Melbourne newspaper The Age.
"If we hadn't been dealing with it straight away, in our view…we'd be perceived as being racist," he said.
Trigg also rejected criticisms that has implied the club refused to support Rendell.
"I know that criticism is out there today, but I reject it," Trigg said.
"I'd like to think that over many years we have stood by him; there have been a few hiccups along the way....
"This particular one, in terms of the circumstances, it just couldn't be worked through or couldn't be forgiven. It is not in keeping with our club values."
Rendell appeared on a television program on Monday night to explain his side of the story, but Trigg said, ultimately, it didn't matter whether his comments had been taken out of context.
"He (Rendell) doesn't a hold grudges. He's not a racist, he's not any of those things and we can all put our hands on our heart and say that," he said.
"[But] if language gets loose, or if it's interpreted poorly, the outcomes can be so dire and that's unfortunately what's happened in this situation."
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Mike Sheean's interview on TV showed his true rascist colours with the Demetriou interview, ( how could anyone support such a silly comment from Rendell.) Demetriou made Sheean look like a little puppy dog with his replies. Rendell had no choice but to resign. Saying that a public apology from Rendell would go along way considering his long service to Australia's greatest game. There always looking for car park attendants.
"now Matt, best you go quietly mate and heres a million to help get you back on yah feet"
see yah
next!
see yah
next!
Matt Rendell isnt a racist and the line was taken way out of context.
That smug SOB Demetriou got on Foxtel and lied point blank.
Sometimes the truth is too inconvenient to be allowed to come to light.
That smug SOB Demetriou got on Foxtel and lied point blank.
Sometimes the truth is too inconvenient to be allowed to come to light.
Mar 21, 2012 -- 11:40PM, CrazySnake wrote:Matt Rendell isnt a racist and the line was taken way out of context.That smug SOB Demetriou got on Foxtel and lied point blank.Sometimes the truth is too inconvenient to be allowed to come to light.
Of course his a racist, Rendal would have fitted in well in Nazi Germany in the 30s and 40s with a racist remark like that. "Sig Hail." Crazy.
OK, I'll bring it back here ,
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if you took my response to what you posted on that thread as me in some way trying to make you seem racist or that i think you are racist...it was not my intention....nor do i think you are racist.
If you have taken it in this way i apologise for giving that inference....if i have.
As for your very cautious apology if I felt you’d tainted me in any way as a rascist. Save it……. Seems by your criteria….
I AM A RACIST.
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Spoon I did not continue to post my question to you on the RENDELL thread, that you have avoided answering, so far, because i was happy to let the subject drop. I then post on this thread on a completely different subject and you follow me like a stalker and continue to take another couple of shots at me.
Stalker?, gee quick to jump to that label.
The only question I see is............
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How many White players have gone home compared to Black Players is irrelevent.
It says more about that specific club than it says about the colour of the player.
Why has any player white or black gone home?
Surely rhetorical, or you expect an answer to why each and every AFL player has “gone home”,
since when? 1992? ….. or is there another question I cannot see?
The questions I asked , that you avoided, were meant to highlight the obvious (even to you, I
think), that we all have opinions, usually based on our experience that are applied in general
terms, on a daily basis.
The way you come across is that , if I asked you to locate, as quickly as possible, a Chinese
man aged 50 to 75 buying vegetables, you would rush off to the 7/11 around the corner
from you and there you'd wait…………………
And wait……………
and wait.
Doesn't mean that older Chinese men are unwelcome at 7/11's
I'd be looking at the Springvale market.
Can’t be bothered pulling your whole post apart but I will try and clarify the following…
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So if these two people applied to you for a job, you wouldn't even need to speak to them because you have their sense of loyalty/ priority/ success/ and family nailed simply by looking at them.
Gee, you have drawn a long bow there….from what has been posted. You assume that having pre-
conceived general opinions based on our experiences or knowledge means that an
INDIVIDUAL assessment is denied , discouraged or doomed to be negative.
Poor assumption. PERSONALLY SPEAKING….…. YOU ARE WRONG.
Matt Rendell wasn’t speaking of an individual, was he? Wasn’t he, in his role of choosing
candidates, who can play, but also seem candidates able to withstand the discipline,
attention, distractions etc etc and then include a judgement call on their likelihood to re-
locate back “home”, speaking in general terms?
You seem to be responding to the situation that “ John Citizen was, after the athletic tests
and interview process, deemed a high priority listing by the Crows, until Matt Rendell was
told he was a full blooded Aboriginal that currently resided in a remote community 400 miles
from the nearest petrol station. Mr Rendell then withdrew the Offer of Interest from the
Crows”
That situation is not the one that occurred.
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if you took my response to what you posted on that thread as me in some way trying to make you seem racist or that i think you are racist...it was not my intention....nor do i think you are racist.
If you have taken it in this way i apologise for giving that inference....if i have.
As for your very cautious apology if I felt you’d tainted me in any way as a rascist. Save it……. Seems by your criteria….
I AM A RACIST.
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Spoon I did not continue to post my question to you on the RENDELL thread, that you have avoided answering, so far, because i was happy to let the subject drop. I then post on this thread on a completely different subject and you follow me like a stalker and continue to take another couple of shots at me.
Stalker?, gee quick to jump to that label.
The only question I see is............
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How many White players have gone home compared to Black Players is irrelevent.
It says more about that specific club than it says about the colour of the player.
Why has any player white or black gone home?
Surely rhetorical, or you expect an answer to why each and every AFL player has “gone home”,
since when? 1992? ….. or is there another question I cannot see?
The questions I asked , that you avoided, were meant to highlight the obvious (even to you, I
think), that we all have opinions, usually based on our experience that are applied in general
terms, on a daily basis.
The way you come across is that , if I asked you to locate, as quickly as possible, a Chinese
man aged 50 to 75 buying vegetables, you would rush off to the 7/11 around the corner
from you and there you'd wait…………………
And wait……………
and wait.
Doesn't mean that older Chinese men are unwelcome at 7/11's
I'd be looking at the Springvale market.
Can’t be bothered pulling your whole post apart but I will try and clarify the following…
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So if these two people applied to you for a job, you wouldn't even need to speak to them because you have their sense of loyalty/ priority/ success/ and family nailed simply by looking at them.
Gee, you have drawn a long bow there….from what has been posted. You assume that having pre-
conceived general opinions based on our experiences or knowledge means that an
INDIVIDUAL assessment is denied , discouraged or doomed to be negative.
Poor assumption. PERSONALLY SPEAKING….…. YOU ARE WRONG.
Matt Rendell wasn’t speaking of an individual, was he? Wasn’t he, in his role of choosing
candidates, who can play, but also seem candidates able to withstand the discipline,
attention, distractions etc etc and then include a judgement call on their likelihood to re-
locate back “home”, speaking in general terms?
You seem to be responding to the situation that “ John Citizen was, after the athletic tests
and interview process, deemed a high priority listing by the Crows, until Matt Rendell was
told he was a full blooded Aboriginal that currently resided in a remote community 400 miles
from the nearest petrol station. Mr Rendell then withdrew the Offer of Interest from the
Crows”
That situation is not the one that occurred.
Spoon..... My apology was sincere, because ......as i am not you.....I was unsure why you would follow me to another thread and continue to take pot shots at me.
I do not think you are racist, I think you are ignorant.
You posted...
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
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I'm with DA. Leaving aside what the world wants to hear, blind freddy knows that people of Aboriginal descent have a far different "register" of loyalty/ priority/ success/ family than anglos have. The "go-home factor" is undeniable and obviously important when major investment is put into these draft "picks". Doesn't mean they won't be picked.... just a factor in the decision. His words may have been unfortunate but if it was behind closed doors..
don't imagine there'd be many left in the recruiting sections of any AFL club if EVERY past conversation was reported.
I posted .....A Question...The question you seem to be having a difficult time finding.....
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Can you judge a person's "register" of loyalty/ priority/ success and family...... simply by looking at the colour of their skin?
As your powers of observation seem to be lacking somewhat.....let's bring them together so you can't miss it this time.....
Leaving aside what the world wants to hear, blind freddy knows that people of Aboriginal descent have a far different "register" of loyalty/ priority/ success/ family than anglos have.
[b]QUESTION[b]....
Can you judge a person's "register" of loyalty/ priority/ success and family...... simply by looking at the colour of their skin?
I do not think you are racist, I think you are ignorant.
You posted...
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
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I'm with DA. Leaving aside what the world wants to hear, blind freddy knows that people of Aboriginal descent have a far different "register" of loyalty/ priority/ success/ family than anglos have. The "go-home factor" is undeniable and obviously important when major investment is put into these draft "picks". Doesn't mean they won't be picked.... just a factor in the decision. His words may have been unfortunate but if it was behind closed doors..
don't imagine there'd be many left in the recruiting sections of any AFL club if EVERY past conversation was reported.
I posted .....A Question...The question you seem to be having a difficult time finding.....
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Can you judge a person's "register" of loyalty/ priority/ success and family...... simply by looking at the colour of their skin?
As your powers of observation seem to be lacking somewhat.....let's bring them together so you can't miss it this time.....
Leaving aside what the world wants to hear, blind freddy knows that people of Aboriginal descent have a far different "register" of loyalty/ priority/ success/ family than anglos have.
[b]QUESTION[b]....
Can you judge a person's "register" of loyalty/ priority/ success and family...... simply by looking at the colour of their skin?
Ok , I'm a racist ignoramus. Thanks for clearing that up. Ahh yes , I see it now. Frankly lost interest when you found it awkward giving an honest answer to my questions, PRIOR
Can you judge a person's "register" of loyalty/ priority/ success and family...... simply by looking at the colour of their skin?
Answer... NO.
blind freddy knows that people of Aboriginal descent have a far different "register" of loyalty/ priority/ success/
Question do you actually read the above statement as based on the COLOUR of
their skin?
Can you judge a person's "register" of loyalty/ priority/ success and family...... simply by looking at the colour of their skin?
Answer... NO.
blind freddy knows that people of Aboriginal descent have a far different "register" of loyalty/ priority/ success/
Question do you actually read the above statement as based on the COLOUR of
their skin?
Can you judge a person's "register" of loyalty/ priority/ success and family...... simply by looking at the colour of their skin?
Answer... NO.
Is that your answer?
Or is it Blind Freddy's answer? Either way,,,thank-you for correcting your own statement that said "blind freddy knows that people of Aboriginal descent have a far different "register" of loyalty/ priority/ success/ family than anglos have".
Oh and by the way, not only do you seem to be Ignorant, you also seem to be somewhat devious....
You posted
As for your very cautious apology if I felt you’d tainted me in any way as a rascist. Save it……. Seems by your criteria….
I AM A RACIST.
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Spoon I did not continue....
...................
Bad Luck for you. I did not fall for your bolding of I AM A RACIST. which should have been tacked onto the previous line, but wasn't and was quadrupled spaced from where it should have been ....
In the hope that i would view your post and see the bolded
I AM A RACIST. and jump back on here and laugh at you and belittle you for being racist.
And with that Mr Spoon I don't give a rats ars e what you and Blind Freddy think.
Have a nice life.
Answer... NO.
Is that your answer?
Or is it Blind Freddy's answer? Either way,,,thank-you for correcting your own statement that said "blind freddy knows that people of Aboriginal descent have a far different "register" of loyalty/ priority/ success/ family than anglos have".
Oh and by the way, not only do you seem to be Ignorant, you also seem to be somewhat devious....
You posted
As for your very cautious apology if I felt you’d tainted me in any way as a rascist. Save it……. Seems by your criteria….
I AM A RACIST.
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Spoon I did not continue....
...................
Bad Luck for you. I did not fall for your bolding of I AM A RACIST. which should have been tacked onto the previous line, but wasn't and was quadrupled spaced from where it should have been ....
In the hope that i would view your post and see the bolded
I AM A RACIST. and jump back on here and laugh at you and belittle you for being racist.
And with that Mr Spoon I don't give a rats ars e what you and Blind Freddy think.
Have a nice life.
Gave a simple answer to a stupid question.
Asked a stupid question hoping for a simple answer.
Too hard ?
Bad Luck for you. I did not fall for your bolding of I AM A RACIST. which should have been tacked onto the previous line, but wasn't and was quadrupled spaced from where it should have been ....
In the hope that i would view your post and see the bolded
I AM A RACIST. and jump back on here and laugh at you and belittle you for being racist.
I may be ignorant....... you may be right, for I am honestly unable to understand that.
You think I was being devious?
I think you are Lunar.
You have a nice life too, in your own dimension.
Asked a stupid question hoping for a simple answer.
Too hard ?
Bad Luck for you. I did not fall for your bolding of I AM A RACIST. which should have been tacked onto the previous line, but wasn't and was quadrupled spaced from where it should have been ....
In the hope that i would view your post and see the bolded
I AM A RACIST. and jump back on here and laugh at you and belittle you for being racist.
I may be ignorant....... you may be right, for I am honestly unable to understand that.
You think I was being devious?
I think you are Lunar.
You have a nice life too, in your own dimension.
perhaps you could print out my posts, wrap them around a lampshade, spin it anti-clockwise
and only then .......... my message will be clear to you
and only then .......... my message will be clear to you
Misfud at it again...
source of thomas's story..
sack him...
source of thomas's story..
sack him...
afl warns him..only
double standards here punters..
joke.... imo
double standards here punters..
joke.... imo
I can't believe what I just heard in that press conference
How is it possible to justify a warning?
How is it possible to justify a warning?
he'll have to walk himself..
trust factor gone,no one will work with him..
trust factor gone,no one will work with him..
Easy AD, Demetriou and Co. as I have constantly stated are amongst the biggest hypocrites in the world and sre bordering on totally incompetent. H'mm destroying someone's personal and professional reputation and livelihood through the wilful release and publication of total lies, sounds eerily familiar.
Impossible to argue with that LE
Now they have offered Rendell a job
Now they have offered Rendell a job
Do you mean he said the offer of a job to Rendell was untrue?
Didn't he say he had no involvement in the Rendell sacking? I didn't hear him refute the offer a job I thought it was common knowledge Rendell met with an AFL consultant a couple of days ago
Didn't he say he had no involvement in the Rendell sacking? I didn't hear him refute the offer a job I thought it was common knowledge Rendell met with an AFL consultant a couple of days ago
Wonder where where all these know all geniuses who screamed racism and wanted to hang the poor p guy from the yardarm are now, slithered back into their holes like the snivelling little PC worms they are.
Ok, being reported very differently here
They have certainly found a way to turn this into a PR disaster
They have certainly found a way to turn this into a PR disaster
For that matter am never going to watch Footy Classified ever again what a bunch of ego maniacal all knowing ****s that bunch are, particlarly thomas and wilson.
All this ridiculous handwringing over Mark Nealds post match press conference I don't know about you but like most thinking footy fans I found it immensely refreshing to hear the cold hard truth dished up for a change and it should happen a hell of a more often as am sick to death of coaches, administrators, footy clubs and the media insulting our intelligence with the craap they spew forth.
Good on him for telling it like it is and hope he tells all his critics to get stuffed.
I for one was immensely impressed by the way he handled himself On The Couch last night, if the Melbourne players grow half as much a backbone as this guy has then they might actually achieve something.
All this ridiculous handwringing over Mark Nealds post match press conference I don't know about you but like most thinking footy fans I found it immensely refreshing to hear the cold hard truth dished up for a change and it should happen a hell of a more often as am sick to death of coaches, administrators, footy clubs and the media insulting our intelligence with the craap they spew forth.
Good on him for telling it like it is and hope he tells all his critics to get stuffed.
I for one was immensely impressed by the way he handled himself On The Couch last night, if the Melbourne players grow half as much a backbone as this guy has then they might actually achieve something.
Big story in todays West about Rendell being bought back into the AFL fold written by Caroline Wilson, herself another monstrous hypocrite who was only too happy to jump on the racism bandwaggon.
So if Jason Mifsud gave Grant Thomas wrong info on Neeld, what's to say he didn't also misrepresent Matt Rendell's words & tone
Rendell didn't deny of that Ted, I don't think there is any dispute over it all now
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It would be interesting to hear Matt Rendell's thoughts after Jason Mifsud was only warned for making 'false claims' of racial discrimination against Melbourne coach Mark Neeld, just weeks after Rendell was forced out of Adelaide.
Neeld has enough headaches at present trying to turn the Demons around following their shocking first-up effort in his maiden game in charge, an insipid 41-point defeat to the Lions last Saturday.
He has also copped criticism for being part of a radio broadcast of the Hawthorn-Collingwood game last Friday night on the evening before guiding his men into battle, when many believe he should have been devoting his time to final preparations.
But to be confronted on Monday by claims that he had refused to conduct individual meetings with the indigenous players at his club when he was willing to do so with the other players on his list clearly rankled.
And for good reason after he vehemently denied the allegations and the AFL was embarrassingly forced to admit on Tuesday afternoon that their community engagement manager Mifsud was simply wrong in making the claims to former St Kilda coach Grant Thomas, who later aired them.
Mifsud was central to Crows recruiting manager Rendell's resignation a fortnight ago following a private conversation between the pair in which both later acknowledged Rendell made 'ignorant' comments about 'racial stereotyping' of indigenous players.
Central to the comments Rendell reportedly made was a suggestion that AFL clubs would in time only recruit indigenous players if they have a white parent.
Regardless of what you think about Rendell's comments, the point at the time that the AFL would surely have been much better served educating and counselling Rendell rather than pretty much ensuring his position with the Crows was untenable.
Now that Mifsud is the one in the wrong he has been barely slapped on the wrist despite the fact his behaviour was just as - if not more - unacceptable considering the damage it threatened to do to Neeld's reputation.
No to mention that Mifsud is in arguably a far greater position of responsibility than Rendell was.
After the holier than thou way the AFL handled the Rendell situation in recent weeks, they have been brought back down a peg or two by one of their own with this messy situation.
It would be interesting to hear Matt Rendell's thoughts after Jason Mifsud was only warned for making 'false claims' of racial discrimination against Melbourne coach Mark Neeld, just weeks after Rendell was forced out of Adelaide.
Neeld has enough headaches at present trying to turn the Demons around following their shocking first-up effort in his maiden game in charge, an insipid 41-point defeat to the Lions last Saturday.
He has also copped criticism for being part of a radio broadcast of the Hawthorn-Collingwood game last Friday night on the evening before guiding his men into battle, when many believe he should have been devoting his time to final preparations.
But to be confronted on Monday by claims that he had refused to conduct individual meetings with the indigenous players at his club when he was willing to do so with the other players on his list clearly rankled.
And for good reason after he vehemently denied the allegations and the AFL was embarrassingly forced to admit on Tuesday afternoon that their community engagement manager Mifsud was simply wrong in making the claims to former St Kilda coach Grant Thomas, who later aired them.
Mifsud was central to Crows recruiting manager Rendell's resignation a fortnight ago following a private conversation between the pair in which both later acknowledged Rendell made 'ignorant' comments about 'racial stereotyping' of indigenous players.
Central to the comments Rendell reportedly made was a suggestion that AFL clubs would in time only recruit indigenous players if they have a white parent.
Regardless of what you think about Rendell's comments, the point at the time that the AFL would surely have been much better served educating and counselling Rendell rather than pretty much ensuring his position with the Crows was untenable.
Now that Mifsud is the one in the wrong he has been barely slapped on the wrist despite the fact his behaviour was just as - if not more - unacceptable considering the damage it threatened to do to Neeld's reputation.
No to mention that Mifsud is in arguably a far greater position of responsibility than Rendell was.
After the holier than thou way the AFL handled the Rendell situation in recent weeks, they have been brought back down a peg or two by one of their own with this messy situation.
speaking of racism..
No teddy bears in Toy Story. Blatant racism.
No teddy bears in Toy Story. Blatant racism.
You basically for starters AFL you immediately jumped on your high horse. And if you watched footy classified that sycophant wilson basically did as well.
I did not call him a racist. Nor did she from your answer.
Most people including his club stressed that they did not think he was racist, perhaps ignorant or such.
You continue to frame your ANTI-PC stance around the subject of racism.
As if to say that being ANTI-RACIST is PC....and that is a bad thing.
Even if it is PC to be ANTI-RACIST....Why do you seem to criticize this?
I agree that it not good to loosely throw the racist tag on anyone....I do not think that has happened in this case.
You verbal me...and say that i called him racist....in the same way you claim Rendell was verballed.
Who is the hypocrite?
Most people including his club stressed that they did not think he was racist, perhaps ignorant or such.
You continue to frame your ANTI-PC stance around the subject of racism.
As if to say that being ANTI-RACIST is PC....and that is a bad thing.
Even if it is PC to be ANTI-RACIST....Why do you seem to criticize this?
I agree that it not good to loosely throw the racist tag on anyone....I do not think that has happened in this case.
You verbal me...and say that i called him racist....in the same way you claim Rendell was verballed.
Who is the hypocrite?
I can't be bothered going back to fetch your earlier posts on this subject AFL and expose you for what you really are as I have far better things to do with my time than to argue with ignorant idiots such as yourself but I checked them a while back and they are still there for anyone who can be bothered to see for themselves how you jumped on the bandwaggon big time and the fact that your now trying to back away from that is even more laughable.
Go back to doing what you do best, jumping to conclusions and villlfying innocent people like Rendell.
Go back to doing what you do best, jumping to conclusions and villlfying innocent people like Rendell.
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Rendell didn't just express an opinion,(which everyone is entitled to have) he expressed an employment policy that is illegal. To discriminate against anyone based on their ethnicity, race, color or religion is against the law,including using discrimination as a basis for employing someone in the work place.
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My apoligies to Mr Rendell if i have taken him out of context. But what is the correct context for an employment policy that discriminates on the basis of color? If he expressed it as an opinion and only an opinion, i still don't see how he could hold a position that employs young Australians without that opinion conflicting with the Law of the Land.
Rendell has been found guilty by his club. Case closed. We should be able to comment on it.
By him singling out ALL full blooded Aboriginals as more troublesome than half blooded or white Australians, is a GROSS EXAGAGERATION and him being in a position that recruits these young AUSTRALIANS for EMPLOYMENT puts him at odds with the racial vilification laws.
THEY ARE ALL AUSTRALIANS AND DESERVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY AS ALL OTHER AUSTRALIANS.....REGARDLESS OF WHO CAME BEFORE THEM AND WHAT COLOR THEY ARE.
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He is expected to counsel young recruits himself....so the counsellor needs counseling?
He needs re-training.
I hope he can put his case that it was not a personal opinion ....but a perception of an underlying theme in recruiting...and if so it will flush it out of the system, and some good will come of it.
I hope he is not lost to the industry if he can convince them of his position that it was not a personal belief, that he acted upon.
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DA what if he has had bad experiences with White Players as well? As there no doubt has been.
Who does he recruit then?
Every single person in this country is entitled to a fair go. Because each of us is an individual. We all act the way we do because we are individuals no matter our skin colour or ethnicity.
Two people who grew up in near indentical circumstances with similiar parents and living enviornment could and do often grow up to lead very different lives not influenced by each other or someone else's life.
Walk a mile in my shoes........ and you will end up with sore feet.
We are all different and should not be judged by what some one else did or didn't do because they had the same skin colour or lived in a similar enviornment.
That is why we have laws to protect the individual from being judged and denied a fair go by linking them to a particular colour or race.
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Well there they are in order Lets.
Show me where I called him a racist.
I didn't....and you know why i didn't?
Because I don't believe he is.
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Rendell didn't just express an opinion,(which everyone is entitled to have) he expressed an employment policy that is illegal. To discriminate against anyone based on their ethnicity, race, color or religion is against the law,including using discrimination as a basis for employing someone in the work place.
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My apoligies to Mr Rendell if i have taken him out of context. But what is the correct context for an employment policy that discriminates on the basis of color? If he expressed it as an opinion and only an opinion, i still don't see how he could hold a position that employs young Australians without that opinion conflicting with the Law of the Land.
Rendell has been found guilty by his club. Case closed. We should be able to comment on it.
By him singling out ALL full blooded Aboriginals as more troublesome than half blooded or white Australians, is a GROSS EXAGAGERATION and him being in a position that recruits these young AUSTRALIANS for EMPLOYMENT puts him at odds with the racial vilification laws.
THEY ARE ALL AUSTRALIANS AND DESERVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY AS ALL OTHER AUSTRALIANS.....REGARDLESS OF WHO CAME BEFORE THEM AND WHAT COLOR THEY ARE.
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He is expected to counsel young recruits himself....so the counsellor needs counseling?
He needs re-training.
I hope he can put his case that it was not a personal opinion ....but a perception of an underlying theme in recruiting...and if so it will flush it out of the system, and some good will come of it.
I hope he is not lost to the industry if he can convince them of his position that it was not a personal belief, that he acted upon.
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DA what if he has had bad experiences with White Players as well? As there no doubt has been.
Who does he recruit then?
Every single person in this country is entitled to a fair go. Because each of us is an individual. We all act the way we do because we are individuals no matter our skin colour or ethnicity.
Two people who grew up in near indentical circumstances with similiar parents and living enviornment could and do often grow up to lead very different lives not influenced by each other or someone else's life.
Walk a mile in my shoes........ and you will end up with sore feet.
We are all different and should not be judged by what some one else did or didn't do because they had the same skin colour or lived in a similar enviornment.
That is why we have laws to protect the individual from being judged and denied a fair go by linking them to a particular colour or race.
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Well there they are in order Lets.
Show me where I called him a racist.
I didn't....and you know why i didn't?
Because I don't believe he is.
Mifsud should go - if he is going to go to the media with every story - true or not, he can't be trusted imo
Doesn't change that Rendell did the wrong thing though
Doesn't change that Rendell did the wrong thing though
Interesting he offered his resignation and Andy D refused to accept it
We said Rendell's position became untennable when his situation was made public, and this can not be any different. His resignation had to be accepted
We said Rendell's position became untennable when his situation was made public, and this can not be any different. His resignation had to be accepted
I think the AFL board is rascist as well. Why is their no Aboriginals on this board.?
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