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In relation to R6 W Farm, the long and drawn out mounting yard "expert comments" that the cameraman waits for before showing the next horse included the

following from the little bloke (speaking about no-5 BEG)

"paraded very well"..."I had her on top, just waiting to see how she paraded"

"paraded very well"..."I had her on top, just waiting to see how she paraded"

"paraded very well"..."I had her on top, just waiting to see how she paraded"

"paraded very well"..."I had her on top, just waiting to see how she paraded"



ShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked

So it's important you see her parade ??

Well thanks to the lengthy comments by the two experts, the next horse was the last one we had a look at before they were on the track,

the remaining half of the field we saw on the track, rseholes winking at us or at a distance behind a running rail FFS

If the parade is important as u intimated!!! show the punters you're trying to encourage to bet!!!

Had 6? bets today, with bet size decreasing according to the quality of mounting yard view.


That's my rant for the day.

TVN, HYPOCRISY OF THE HIGHEST ORDER... LIFT!!!
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Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON September 14, 2011 3:24 PM BST
To be fair, I should point out that Adam is not by any means the only one who seems to gain

pleasure from the sound of his own voice.

Shane Templeton seems closest to understanding a very simple reality

whether there are six runners or sixteen, they are only in the yard for about 5 minutes.


DO THE MATHS AS THEY ENTER THE YARD!!


It's roooooolly bloody simple Plain
Report Village Kid September 14, 2011 4:01 PM BST
SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN MANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

reckon you'd be one of the only ones here who'd know what my avatar is

reckon you eat em for breeky
Report Scott135 September 15, 2011 2:51 AM BST
The most useless person on TVN with parade yard comments is Sam Hyland.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON September 15, 2011 6:54 PM BST
VK, avatars are a sore point for this little black duck Sad

I've huffed and I've puffed and I've pressed alllllll the buttons to no avail, Sad

also threatened with dismembermentShocked from the forum.

Therefore, to protect my mood I have placed a vertical line of gaffer tape, exactly 16mm

wide on my monitor. Oblivious is bliss Mischief

That being the case, if I eat them for brekky, your avatar is Benson and Hedges???



Scott

I don't feel the need to criticize their opinions on "appearance" or their assessment of form.

I do feel the need to criticize the hypocrisy (evidenced above) that exists between their verbal

references to the significance of the "mounting yard appearance" and the distinct lack of

"vision priority" of them in the mounting yard that they serve up to their viewers.

A UNIQUE PART OF THEIR COVERAGE , a true point of difference, sabotaged and ignored in so

many ways. Cry
Report Scott135 September 16, 2011 1:18 AM BST
I don't see the point of Sam Hyland week in and week out picking 100/1 shots just coz they look nice - and keep running down the track last.
If there is a prize for the best turned out horse, like they do in Hong Kong, fair enough. But there isn't!!!
You have to mix in form with appearance...not just pick them solely on looks coz they look pretty...as he does.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON September 17, 2011 2:06 AM BST
David Gately? in charge at Geelong yesterday.

Only saw 4? races yesterday, mostly small fields.... but........

OUTSTANDING IMPROVEMENT FROM THE NORM !!!!

Take a fukken bow, buster ...............

Sound of applause....... Happy




Ask not what your viewers can do for you.....

Ask what you can do........ for your viewers
Silly
Report TeenQueen September 17, 2011 6:59 AM BST
I've got an idea Spoony ...

Next time TVN leave the important mounting yard preview until they're behind the barriers on the other side of the track at Rosehill like they've just done with Race 6 ...

... get your binoculars out ...

... I'm sure it wouldn't look too silly sitting in your lounge room watching the telly with binoculars ...
Report Monday mike September 17, 2011 9:01 AM BST
Being a big fan of TVN, thought coverage of Rosehill was very ordinary for a big meeting.  Ritchie came across as a TV advertising salesman with all the early favs. winning, he was too too loud and pumped, we want winners we're not here to buy racehorses, was a bit like that iritateing man who sells syndicates for racehorses.  The big mans not right of late, no doubt he will bounce back and pretty high too.   More importantly the lovely caroline Searcy ( nothin like a good looin woman with brains.)  The people who organised her outfit were pretty much lacking flair for this lovely lady, looked like a Queen Victoria of the late 1800s with those colours.   Personally I just love her in red or blue myself.   
Still overall there miles ahead of the scummy Sky racing team with there Casino type coverage.
Report doubleagent September 17, 2011 9:14 AM BST
Fvckin hell Spoon! What is all this sh!t? 'TVN THE ULTIMATE HYPOCRISY' thunders the title of this thread.Like a stern narrator on the History channel booming 'the ULTIMATE HYPOCRISY'. And all it is is just some drivel about not seeing the horses in the mounting yard.If you want to inspect the horses go to the track.You want it all-lay back in your recliner,mouse in one hand computer in the other,can't be arsed to go to the track and put some business towards a struggling race industry and then you whinge about not seeing the horses.Next you'll be wanting someone to come over and sell you a hot dog,or put a lump of manure in your hall to step in to give you that authentic touch.

Oh,and by the way,PUT SOME PANTS ON!!
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON September 17, 2011 10:51 AM BST
TQ, my "lounge room" doesn't have a window and no heavy instruments(binoculars) allowed Mischief

Mike, are you Peter Jago?

Double Do Wah.... well, well, well,.............. like that is it?

I'll be gettin back to you later on this outburst. Devil

In the mean-time do something constructive and please describe. ( on the thread at the top)

your experience at the "trading seminars" during your recent trip to London , seems to be a ticket

to unimaginable riches Cool
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON September 18, 2011 4:02 AM BST
R1 at The Rat

Shane shows again.... it can be done.

Shane Love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd0VBm8gU5o&NR=1
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON September 18, 2011 4:23 AM BST
2 from 2

Shane  Love gets a double .........niiiiiiiiiice Happy
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON September 18, 2011 5:26 AM BST
Nust confess the races don't have my full attention today but I think

Shane Love fell at the third Sad

back on track for the fourth Happy
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON September 20, 2011 4:43 AM BST
No races before, so no excuses,

Sale today, Race 1

8 starters !! saw 5 of them in the yard Shocked

then has the cheek, during the post race interview, to mention " paraded terrifically" Cry

HYPOCRITE Devil

Sale Race 2

Another without any prior races cramping it for time.......no excuses

actually had to wait for most of them to enter the yard..

12 starters, the cameraman was even moving on to the next one (subtle prompt [;)])as they got down toward the bottom.

The bottom two , even money and second favorites, didn't quite get to them Mischief


HE NEEDS TO GO Devil

Slow track? and him to top it off... I probably won't bother the scorers today.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON September 20, 2011 6:46 PM BST
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Jason Richardson.....PLEASE LIFT YOUR GAME IN REGARD TO THE MOUNTING YARD it's called time management [;)]


The view of runners in the mounting yard continues to vary from (individual horses) good ......to looking at a barcode

through a flyscreen to the "winking rsehole view" trotting off to the barriers. TVN...LIFT!!!



On another note, an recent observation I found interesting....

On Sunday at Ballarat I saw a horse in the yard that I recognised as one I'd had something on (a place) when first up.
(ran 4th)

Only backed it on the way it presented in the yard.

BEFORE THE RACE
By: THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
Date Joined: 14 May 09 Add contact | Send message
When: 01 Sep 11 05:17 
gee nice horse Bart's... no knackers, no bone chips.......hmmm


AFTER THE RACE

By: THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 01 Sep 11 05:25

....No $ confidence either, raced v fresh today could be ok.


Was personally surprised by it's appearance, thinking I would be further impressed by "improvement" from it's first up run.

However, to my amateur eye it still looked "well" but from memory was carrying a little more condition than when

first up.  Only just now I have looked back at the "cards" on here to see it was first up for a year when resuming and three

weeks later his second-up run on Sunday. Did gain favours from the ride and track but still......... won by panels.

Cosmonaut ...... JB Cummings. A privilege to watch the master at work.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON September 25, 2011 1:47 PM BST
Today,at Bairnsdale

(I only saw 4? races)but........

TERRY BAILEY..............take a bow Love

He is a serious "parade watcher" and I choose to believe he understands the "obligation"

to give the viewers the same opportunity/advantage that he has.

ALL YOU OTHER MUPPETTS

TAKE A LEAF !!!
Report Scott135 September 26, 2011 6:04 AM BST
I chucked one of the biggest parties when they flogged that idiot off the Melbourne.
Wouldn't know shitt from clayy[smiley:crazy]
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON September 26, 2011 6:39 AM BST
Always pleasant, it must be fun, being you, Sourpuss.

I care not for the opinions offered, only the opportunity (via yard vision) to form my own.

Have a nice day Happy
Report Scott135 September 26, 2011 7:31 AM BST
The Golden Slipper call was a classic...

"And here's the winner, Crowned Gloryyyyy" Laugh[smiley:crazy]
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON October 4, 2011 3:59 AM BST
ADAM'S BACK!! Cry FFS

can't even count now, starts at number 8 works down to the bottom then says " let's catch up with the ones we missed!!!"

1,2,4,5,7 shown on their way to the barriers Devil

Previous race at Terang they show a replay during the mounting yard run through FFS

Also wondering, is the camera bolted to the ground??? Cry

RUDE
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON October 5, 2011 6:51 AM BST
SHANE, SHANE, SHANE, TO THE NAUGHTY CHAIR FOR YOU!!

10 horse field

Said at the start of the mounting yard preview..." gee the 12 is the pick of the yard"

then ambled through his assessments of the first eight horses....

the next one as it left the yard then finally...... a head on view of the FAV (eventual winner), no-12. Cry

Any danger of the viewers seeing it for themselves? ffs

Hypocrisy

LIFT!
Report Lets Elope October 5, 2011 7:52 AM BST
Yes I saw that one, having done mounting yard reports on air on numerous occasions myself its imperative that you give your rundown succinctly and move on to each horse until they have had the opportunity to all be viewed, then if necessary you can expand upon your summary of the runners as they go to the barriers.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON October 5, 2011 5:15 PM BST
Yes LE, it's pretty darn simple. Eight horse field in Sydney, only managed six IN the yard Devil

Richie interviewing a trainer (full screen) for two minutes, ffs.

I like Richie but the timing is awful ... RICHIE, TO THE NAUGHTY, Oh, umm... TO THE NAUGHTY BENCH SEAT FOR YOU!!

LE, please send your resume to TVN, I shall write you a sterling reference   Happy
Report Lets Elope October 6, 2011 2:30 PM BST
Thanks haven't done it for a few years now but I totally agree nothing more annoying than not getting to see the whole field in the moutning yard, can't for channel 7's craap coverage of the Melbourne cup carnival where you get to see every 2nd or 3rd horse in the main races let alone the minor events.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON November 7, 2011 2:37 AM GMT
Had to laugh at Ritchie and co blustering about "vision rights" at the wash-up after the carnival.

Highlighting the loss of mounting yard vision as one of the major issues Laugh

Thunderbird Olzanski just showed us again, at Mornington, cant see all 10 runners in

the yard ffs.

If you speak of it with reverence........ revere it!!

or you are


A HYPOCRITE Devil
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON November 8, 2011 2:08 AM GMT
Jason Richardson..... such a huge "personality" big things ahead for him............. he thinks.

Has his own show now, he's on the way !!!

His pre-meeting run through just couldn't be interrupted while the runners for the first circled the yard.

SEVEN runners in the race...........number seen IN the yard???????????

THREE ( just !!! )

Good luck with your career Jason, seriously........ but

don't ever believe your assessments are more important than the mounting yard vision 

SELF- INDULGENCE

RUDE
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON November 8, 2011 2:40 AM GMT
Race 2

SIX horse field, we saw .....................FOUR !!!!!!!!!

New lows Cry

ffs
Report laythefave November 8, 2011 6:15 AM GMT
Agree totally, spoony. Olzanski can't get through a field no matter how much time he has, because he cr@ps on and on ad nauseum about each horse  for so long.

Richardson has, imo anyway, the most irritating grating voice of any of the TVN presenters.

Generally, however, I would rather a sh!touse TVN than a deluxe Sky any dayGrin
Report Joel November 8, 2011 6:19 AM GMT
Richo is a Stawell Gift winner, he can do what he wants imo
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON November 9, 2011 11:28 AM GMT
Not sure where to put this ........ it's mounting yard related....so ...... I'll put it here Plain

I wasn't logged in at the time and not too fussed about having a bet when my best bud came around and

as we were discussing his latest plan of attack on some obscure sub-branch of world stock markets Sad

( I try , I really do) I noticed, over his shoulder, on TVN (muted) a lovely type strolling around the yard

as casual as BC, swishing his tail. Taking the opportunity to sidetrack the conversation, I said "look at him gettin round

the mounting yard, lovely type" graphics showed on TVN NO STARTS. I rewound and watched it again with him and then

resumed our gripping, one-sided, conversation.

Shortly after, we were in front of the TV they were showing the replay, straight after the race and .... you know it...

it won. Not overly fussed about the result but personally...... very impressed.

Both trainer and jockey seemed unexcited/ conservative about the future when asked and trainer said didn't have great

expectations on that race-day either. SALE R2 on Friday 4th November

I don't do times or anything else to "rate" him, but...............

............... I like him alot............. JUNGLE RANGER Cool
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON November 10, 2011 1:34 AM GMT
Early races at bendigo, fields of 6 , 5 and 5 runners Sad

What's the market we see all of them inthe yard ??

Shouldn't even be a question!! but............

who's doing the on track commentary????????? Confused

exciting stuff. Mischief

9 runners in the Fourth so it's a bit like a Quaddie........... one leg is aaaaaaaaaaalways "tougher" than the rest.

Shane Templeton- "Quaddie" $1.50?

Any of the others- hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm LaughShockedCry

Mischief
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON November 10, 2011 2:44 AM GMT
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

Fell at the first !!!!!!!!! LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

Only managed to get four of the six horses in the yard CryCryCry

UTTER EMBARRASSMENT Blush
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON November 10, 2011 6:06 AM GMT
Anyone watchin??  did they get any legs, at all!! Mischief
Report jimbob03 November 10, 2011 7:27 AM GMT
worst website ever
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON November 18, 2011 3:36 AM GMT
Firstly

TERRY CLIFTON

TAKE A BOW !!!!!! Of the races I saw yesterday........ OUTSTANDING !!!

A man who "moved" through the runners IN the yard, seeming to understand the

OBVIOUS REALITY....

THEY ARE ONLY IN THE YARD FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME!!!!   

Sound of applause Love


The race just run at Pakenham, Thunderbird Olzanski was bullied by the cameraman Love

into showing them ALL!! IN the yard.  Hilarious.

Cameraman,............. TAKE A BOW Love

Thunderbird,..............TAKE A LEAF Mischief
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON November 18, 2011 4:04 AM GMT
I see it.......... but I don't believe it !!!!!!!! Shocked

A sense of urgency from the Thunderbird !!!!!!!!!( and cameraman )

I'm goin for a lay down Plain

Bit teary, actually Silly

If this continues ( dreaming I know ) I'll move on to fixing the camera positioning Cool
Report CHANTECLARE November 18, 2011 7:29 AM GMT
Blimey  Spoon, you do have some pull.
Well done. They must have been reading.
Power to the FORUM.
Report pjf November 18, 2011 8:25 AM GMT
Spoon, if you did have some influence on the coverage change then very well done. Now get onto those Channel 7 #1^*wits - all the best with that one!Happy
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON November 19, 2011 12:58 PM GMT
Pj, as I mentioned on another thread, the CH7 coverage is not a "real" racing coverage. It is a

completely different "animal" and my only beef there is the exclusivity that deprives TVN and

the other mob of providing a "real" racing telecast for the "real punter". Highlighted best by the

shambolic DEAL OR NO DEAL debacle. Laugh

Pj and Chante, influence?........... I wish!! Plain

Perhaps the pen IS mightier than the sword !!! Grin

Pleased about that.......... my sword is rusty Cry


Would be ridiculous to admit I google earthed Betfair Park to see how far in that stupid prop Panda

was, drove around the course late at night(perimeter fence evaluation Cool), on my travels....

and considered kidnapping him, leaving a note of demand re the mounting yard coverage and sending

him back piece by piece if snubbed. Not easy but do-able (If he was wet he would be heavy, etc,

etc) Shocked. Like I said, my sword is rusty Sad

Therefore I deny it Cool
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON November 20, 2011 1:08 AM GMT
The toppy looked well at The Rat

It was the only one seen in the yard Devil
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON November 20, 2011 1:23 AM GMT
Academy Jack, collared close to home and ran 3rd - $2.80 a place Happy, for the record.


I'll give them one more chance, today. Devil
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON December 4, 2011 4:48 AM GMT
NEW LOWS !!! (if possible) at Geelong R5Devil

"Cramped" for time by Tatura ???? ( Cramped by ignorance, actually Mischief)

Crossed with 9 mins to race time at Geelong

Saw 3!!! in the yard with the third (#6) being followed by the camera for two furlongs on it's way

to the barriers while Terry gives his assessment of the 7, then the 8, then the sleeping?

cameraman gives us a shot of three pairs of human feet walking off into the distance. Shocked

Add a full-screen interview with Heath Connors.... ffs Cry

One day man will invent the ability to record "live" television and play that vision ....

WHEN APPROPRIATE Cool
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON January 12, 2012 3:55 AM GMT
The first at Ballarat, SIX RUNNERS, after "sponsors anouncements" .... cross back to Terry with 9 mins

to start time. Terry chats to the track manager while the runners walk the yard in the background.

End of chat, change camera, watch horses heading away to 1000m start.

Timing? Shocked...... for the viewer, disregard or contempt?

UNFKNBELIEVABLE Devil
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON January 12, 2012 2:00 PM GMT
Terry Bailey, apart from concise form assessments.....YOU ARE ON THE NAUGHTY CHAIR!!!

Said last week

"I love to have a good look at them in the yard, that's a big part of the assessment when having a punt" Mischief

Well, ffs Terry, if only we had a dedicated racing channel that could give us punters at home the same luxury!!!!

Imagine it, ahhhhhhhh, a camera showing live pictures of the horses IN the yard, wouldn't it be lovely? We could make it

(if we choose)a big part of our assessment when we were having a punt, just like you, Terry Devil


Last straw, Ballarat R6

cross back to Terry, precious time wasted while they're in the yard as he has a lengthy chit chat about his and Richie's

Twitter accounts with central host..... then complain about 40 minutes between races ........then we see

3yes, 3 horses IN the yard!!

Then ....... as the rest canter off toward the barrier, he gets to No-5 and says.............................

LOOKED FABULOUS IN THE YARD ShockedShockedShocked

HYPOCRISY of the highest order, Terry.................... as Leyton says.............

COMEONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON January 16, 2012 6:48 AM GMT
Ararat, amateur hour as usual. Might take a few days off to create......... a .............

TVN Mounting Yard Vision Manifesto Mischief

ATB
Report Thebas January 16, 2012 6:50 AM GMT
i tried hard to watch the horses .. but some are paraded by a cute piece with a cute behind ..

can't they just summarise which horses that paraded well ... and let us get back to the cuties
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON January 27, 2012 2:10 AM GMT
David Gately, giving his form assessments for the entire meeting at Mornington , completes them as the toppy

leaves the yard for the first race.       NO MOUNTING YARD VISION AT ALL

HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Devil

How SWETTENHAM STUD.....The Home of Champions

would want to be associated with bringing ("the mounting yard vision for Swettenham Stud") such a sloppy, amateur,

inconsistent and hypocritical product to market is beyond me. It's certainly not a product most advertisers who

are espousing excellence and professionalism would accept as it is a reflection of their business. Plain
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON January 29, 2012 5:05 AM GMT
After a marathon coverage of a minor Singapore race, Shane Templeton.... "we're very close to

the running of the feature, today, race 7 The Werribee Cup of 2012. Runners are in the

mounting yard and the jockeys are up so let's get straight into this for Coolmore Australia,

the home of champions. Let's try and get some of them done before they go out onto the track"


Ummm, Shane,....... The topweight just stepped ON to the track, Mischief

winking ****s galore after that as they head away to the barriers!!!

CryCryCryCryCryCry

RUDE
Report No_BS January 29, 2012 6:24 AM GMT
Do you think that are doing this to try and get people back to the track because they don't het the coverage on TV?
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON January 31, 2012 1:50 AM GMT
Get people back to the track Laugh What for??? Pie sales?

They exist to encourage wagering, FULL STOP.

They are "doing this" , even though they speak of mounting yard appearance and employ a

specialist on Saturdays to give an assessment, because the penny hasn't dropped that we

want... and should be able to form our own assessments from the "vision" available IN the

yard.

Cheers
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON January 31, 2012 10:39 PM GMT
Yesterday at Warrnambool, Shane mentions " the favourite is in from $2.80 to $2.20......

probably support from those punters who saw her in the pre-parade and mounting yard,

looked really well." Shocked

On a day where, early, the only other "vision" was of the yearling sale in NZ.....

in one case, someone decided they couldn't "leave" the sale until horses were

leaving the mounting yard  Shocked


HYPOCRISY, IN A NUTSHELL Devil
Report Teen_Queen January 31, 2012 11:11 PM GMT
At this juncture I wish to officially concur with everything that you have said, are saying and will say in the future about TVN's appalling treatment of mounting yard enthusiasts like yourself and myself Spoonman.

Boomshanka!
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON February 1, 2012 9:44 PM GMT
Tx, pleased to hear we have similar views , TQ.  Blush

Yesterday at Sandown, Shane, referring to Cheviot Beach says, " and he looks terrific today,

particularly looking at him in the mounting yard I rate him really highly." (Ran 2nd)


(I concurred with his view but preferred to back another I liked from the yard due to the

R Smerdon/ D Oliver factors.)

Just another day of "some" of them seen in the yard at varying angles with the dreaded

"overhead shot" in regular use Sad Might as well show them from the Goodyear Blimp.

Devil Perhaps we could strap a helmet-cam to Shane, Terry or Thunderbird and get the same

view they enjoy. Mischief
Report starry2 February 5, 2012 7:33 AM GMT
They are hopeless, tape it or do something different , PLEASE!
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON February 6, 2012 1:50 PM GMT
Cross to Thunderbird,  10 mins prior to race he goes through the tote prices

Then cross to mounting yard vision……………

(R6 Wodonga ……6 runners!!!)

“And we ahhh take a look firstly, at Bringenbrong. …. Well he’s had a few hard luck stories throughout his career, Bringenbrong , but ahh the day he won at Seymour back at the end of December he really  showed his true colours  and in fact he goes very well at this venue as well he’s been here three times, his local track,  in a race,  for a win and a minor placing. I guess his race style has always made it a bit difficult for him because he has, in the past got back in his races he’s out to sixteen hundred metres today in a small field though, with a claim from a good draw and I would’nt be surprised if he’s you know in the second line if they do pair off in three lots…. of..ahhh.. two,

(Cameraman moves on to next runner,Penzevengi )

And I wouldn’t be surprised if hes just behind the leaders here..ahhh, he seemingly had every chance at Sandown last time he was in the running line about three pairs back he was brought to the centre he loomed up for a stride and he battled away in the race won by Crawfish and the form around him and Wyngardiam Leviosa  is quite strong from his previous win in showcase seventy two and here he is in this regular seventy two and he looks quite well placed so Bringenbrong is going to be hard to beat.

Penzevengi is the two, Redoutes Choice gelding who David Hayes has been taking up the road to Sydney on a number of occasions trying to get some decent prizemoney up there and he’s run a couple of encouraging events including one time over nineteen hundred metres at Canterbury where after missing the start he actually ran on very well albeit with only fifty kilos on his back after Chad Schofield’s claim.

(Cameraman moves on to next runner, HEZACRUISER)

Ahh he went to the ATC meeting at Kembla Grange last start in a restricted ahhh no metro win race and he just kept on whacking away to the line so he’s been given a freshen up of five to six weeks and hence he drops back from two thousand to sixteen hundred metres ahhh and that won’t be against him what will be is maybe a lack of pace and from a wide gate the query is where will he land will he go back to the last pair and if it’s a sit sprint will he be able to run over the top of them so there’s a few little question marks there but on ability on the class of horse hes been ummm  meeting in his last couple of starts he’s well placed coming back to this level.
Here is Hezacruiser…well he had a good campaign last time in work put together a couple of victories at Wangaratta and at Seymour then they took him to town and everything was thrown on it’s head when obviously he pulled up scratchy because it was too bad to be true with a thirty length defeat he was given a good decent spell of about six months he won a trial and has returned this campaign wuth some encouraging runs especially his performance at Bendigo second up and his last run at Seymour when he raced in a forward position  but couldn’t quite sustain it to the line. Just by default he’s  the leader here in what could be a moderately run race and he has to be given a good chance based on that fact.

(Cameraman moves on to next runner, SET TO POUNCE)

he is five fifty out to six dollars.

Now at the other end will be Set to Pounce, no doubt, Set To Pounce who was a big improver coming back from a break this campaign he’s always shown ability but he must have had a few issues he started his career with Danny Obrien , Danny was able to get a Sandown win out of him as a three year old and then in a couple of subsequent short preparations he didn’t quite come up  no doubt Erin was learning about him last prep when in four starts he was down the track each time but boy it was a good return at Kyneton he gave most of them a headstart was brought to the centre and really roared home under Stacey Rawiller then went to town again back to the scene of his metro win  at Sandown back in two thousand and nine and went back there in early December and on a slow track he was far from disgraced. But his normal race style is

(Cameraman moves on to next runner, THIS CATS MAGIC)

to ahhh get back at least that’s been the case in recent starts not saying that he can’t adapt  an on pace role because the day he did win at Sandown he was a joint leader so there might be some versatility there but in my speed map I had him in the last pair.

On to the six This Cats Magic for Brian Cox and Linda Meech . So Brian’s got a couple of strong chances here and This Cats Magic has got Linda the inside gate and ahhh a good record at this track its had four wins overrall , two of them at its home ahhh home venue. Now it’s going to get the right run  from that gate I’ve got it in the box seat here on my map ahhh this it’s peak distance as mentioned ticks the box with the track ahhh comes out of the Courtya race against it’s own sex a few weeks back ago at  Sandown prior to that was running well at Wangaratta and at Wagga in some ahhh country races

(THE CATS MAGIC LEAVES THE MOUNTING YARD AND HEADS ON TO THE TRACK !!!!!!!!!!!)

had to lump sixty kilos at Wagga and I thought did quite well coming from the tail of the field but today should be getting the right run

(Cameraman moves on to next runner, COSTA MUCHO, AS IT LEAVES THE YARD!!!!!!!!)

to suggest if it gets the right breaks could easily win this, three dollars eighty there’s good money around for it, in from four twenty to suggest it could threaten the stable companion, Bringenbrong.

And I can’t say that Costa Mucho won’t win but he is the clear outsider of the field and after all he is coming out of a….  a win last start in a cup race but it was a picnic cup as far as picnic standards go Dederang is not one of the most premier clubs it’s a once a year program not that far away in fact from here but you can’t knock him on what he’s done last start his two previous runs at Wangaratta were decent albeit in a 58 and at Towong in a non-tab 68 ahhh I’m willing to risk him but he’s won eight races throughout his career so he knows how to win and he’ll be trying hard but I think others present as better options than him, most of his wins have been in lower grade races the benchmark fifty-fives and ahhh fifty-eights .

Alright these runners are about to arrive at the start….......


FFS !!!!!Shocked

Well, he might know his form?, he might be a good racecaller too?..............good luck to him

but.... he has shown , above........... he has no concept of "time" and no respect for the viewers at home who

want to SEE THEM ALL, IN the yard.

Needs to have a word with  Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward or Brains Cool



Next instalment, R7 Wodonga........ to come Cry
Report TeenQuee.n. February 6, 2012 8:38 PM GMT
Spoony, have you seen ESPN Live Feed of the US racing?

They have a channel for each track and show the stalls, the mounting yard ... everything

I don't know why we can't have something similar here ...

Oh that's right, we have TVN & Sky

http://www.twinspires.com/partner/espn/
Report whoopi February 6, 2012 8:52 PM GMT
T.Q. In defence of TVN the ESPN feed you refer to has a dedicated channel for each racetrack. They don't have the time constraints.
Report TeenQuee.n. February 6, 2012 8:54 PM GMT
neither do the viewers ...
Report whoopi February 6, 2012 8:54 PM GMT
Yeah.should have read your post with eyes open. You actually said what I just said. Doh!!!!
Report MaxSalty February 6, 2012 11:44 PM GMT
spoonie - I am off to stawell today and the last time I went the tvn commentator was very accessible (i i wanted to talk to the dill) I will make the effort today and pass on your regards
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON February 7, 2012 2:07 PM GMT
TQ, no I haven't seen it, I feel it's best I dont Mischief

Max, from what I saw, Shane did his usual, "reasonable" job with the last race winner and

third placegetter unseen IN the mounting yard Sad Hope you had a good day.









10 mins prior to race

(R7 Wodonga ……7 runners!!!)

And lets start off with Dandy Dollar well you won’t miss him he’s a  ghostly white and Jake Duffy looking for a running double Christina Jeffrey prepares this horse and she hasn’t had the  galloper all that long, at his best as a young horse as a three year old he was of city class and then he just lost his game and I’m not sure whether that was due to an injury or niggling issues or he just found his mark and ahhh regressed,

(Cameraman moves on to next runner SOLAR STRIKE)

but anyway he returned for the first time in a while last time out at Wangaratta and for his first up run in about ten months it wasn’t that bad, he was detached from the field he tacked on and passed a couple late but he hasn’t won for a long time and the last time he won was back in two thousand and seven but it wasn’t a stakes race as a three year old at Flemington of course he was formerly prepared by Rick Hore-Lacy so if he can find anything near his best he’d be a chance but punters not giving him that hope at thirteen dollars.
Here’s Solar Strike they’re giving him a better chance he’s only seven fifty in from eight as well or she this mare , a winner T Towong at that non tab meeting we been speaking about, beat a horse called Rexzeal who had been previously highly competitive in this grade ahhh last time went to Albury on pace just couldn’t continue, ahh back to twelve hundred metres in fact may be a benefit for her she’s been here twice over the twelve hundred metres and has finished out of the money both times though one was a fourth and in fact both times were a fourth in seventy two benchmark grade so both decent runs in a higher level so she’s definitely in with a hope.

(Cameraman moves on to next runner HEESATOFF)

Next up is horse number five, Heesatoff  now he’s the exciting one in this race where some of these might have found their mark or have had their best several preparations ago he at least is on an upward trend Brian Cox looking for a double, Linda Meech rides and Linda’s been on this horse two of its three starts including the win at Echuca where she steered it to a clear cut on pace win over Bordeaux. Went to Wangaratta the other day, came into the race at the right time and was just in a blanket finish battling away but out bobbed by Second Dozen and you’d expect that just the way he raced that day the twelve hundred metres will suit and he stays in the sixty eight grade in well.. it’s hard to really assess what ahhh..depth of this sixty..ahhh what depth this sixty eight grade has because

HEESATOFF STEPS ON TO THE TRACK Shocked

a couple of the horses that have shown city class ability mightn’t be racing at their best but ahhh he looks well placed nonetheless from an inside gate

(Cameraman moves on to next runner SOCIETAL) ON TRACK HEADING AWAY  TO BARRIERS

to be in the first ahh two or three he’ll be at least leading on the fence or box seating  I cant see any other position for him unless he does come away from the rails and race outside the leader.Ahh here’s Societal, Danny Obrien another runner for him at his first day up at Wodonga today with his team, he’s already had a winner this filly by Mossman was an Adelaide winner in her first campaign as a three year old, back to back wins after winning on the synthetic track but this time in she’s not the same same sort of horse as an older three year old ahhh she’s really struggled at Flemington and at Sandown  both her only attempts at Melbourne metro grade which you’d have to say were stronger than Adelaide metro grade which she won in last ahh campaign but you do expect more from her now at her best she can race on pace press on from that gate and try and get a good run which does play favourably at this track but there’s a big question mark is she going well has she got issues

(Cameraman moves on to next runner PROVIDENTIAL) ON TRACK HEADING AWAY  TO BARRIERSSad

that are hidden…ahhhh…maybe she just needs a few runs this time in to find her form not sure and she definitely is risky because of her recent runs. Three out to four forty is the current mark. PROVIDENTIAL is horse number seven with the one and only win at twelve hundred metres not the best winning strike rate, one from twenty, David Oprey took over the training of this horse early in his career after Robert Smerdon had him for his first three starts he knows how to place, he’s placed many times in fact nine but the wins are few and far between when he did win it was here at the twelve hundred metres albeit on a heavy track, I’ve always felt that he’s better over a slightly olnger trip than twelve hundred metres and a twelve hundred metre win on a heavy track may reiterate that but ahh he’s second up and his run the other day at Wagga  over a thousand which has always been too short for him actually was encouraging, he’s got race plates on for the first time which is a good sign.

(PROVIDENTIAL HAS NOW ARRIVED AT THE BARRIERS!!)Cry

(Cameraman moves on to next runner AVRIL STAR) ON TRACK HEADING AWAY TO BARRIERSSad

Well I think this ahhh gelding has a good chance today because of the claim and just the way it ahh meets the rest at the weights, Amanda Masters will take, I’m pretty sure, two and a half kilos off here , I haven’t heard an announcement but if she rides at her minimum it will be two and a half off the back of Avrils Star, Liz Albers prepares  locally, Amanda knows the horse well  from its two recent runs at Wodonga and at Towong , ahhh missed the start at Wodonga behind Garvan was good, had it jumped it may well have been in a better position and at Towong didn’t see that non tab meeting  but in a sixty two was beaten a nose, ahhh just carrying that fifty two kilos today and the ability to race in the first half of the field is going to put him in very good stead when it comes to the crunch, he’s performed well at this distance and he’s performed well at this track and distance in combined, in combination, in the past in fact he’s never been out of the first three at the twelve hundred here at Wodonga, so he’s the one I’m leaning to at a decent price, nine dollars (HORSE HAS NOW ALMOST ARRIVED AT THE BARRIERS) And Roadacious,

(Cameraman moves on to next runner ROADACIOUS) ALREADY BEHIND THE BARRIERS Cry

mare by Danroad, who’s second up today, a recent return at Corowa was ahhh fair it did cover ground from one of the outside gates it’s last win at Gundagai in a benchmark fifty five ahhh was a good looking win but just  whether it stacks up to see it win today in this stronger class of race is what punters have to ahhh well toss up and at the moment they’re saying probably not and he’s been a drifter out to nineteen dollars.  So that’s them as they arrive at the start…….

The viewers can READ..... breeding, riders, trainers, weights are shown ON the screen

buddy !!! Comprende?.... YOU DO NOT NEED TO REPEAT THEM... WE ALREADY KNOW!!



And that my friends is how it's possible to only show THREE horses IN the yard from

a paltry field of seven



It's almost a skill, being so fkn self important!!!
Calling International Rescue.............. please take him back!!!!!!!!

CryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCry


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U6eY3ZA5XQ&feature=fvst
Report MaxSalty February 7, 2012 10:14 PM GMT
Shane I am afraid is a snob, I did attempt to approach and engage in conversation but you could see from his sneer that he wasn't interested (to be fair I did look like a bit of a hillbilly with my packed lunch - but sheesh trying to save costs and all) I did have a fun day and if you would like I can reg ail you all with the story of Max's big day out
Report Lets Elope February 8, 2012 6:15 AM GMT
Bruce Clark just then in the last at Sandown "Another Prelate "he's going pretty well... this campaign" only problem with it hasnt raced since 30 October last year!!!

Obviously done his form well for this raceLaugh
Report Joel February 8, 2012 6:20 AM GMT
Hasn't been beaten at all this prep.
Report Lets Elope February 11, 2012 12:56 AM GMT
zero idea tvn no mounting yard whatsoever for rosehill race 1 all we got was the 2yo's on the way to the barrier.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON February 11, 2012 1:10 AM GMT
true Sad, but wow she looked purrty on the track, couldn't help but have an interest bet ...................

without seeing the others Shocked

AUS / Rose (AUS) 11th Feb / 12:00 R1 1200m 2yo  3. Cavalry Rose Back 1757145365 11-Feb-12
11:59    C 3.05  15.00   3.05 30.75

AUS / Rose (AUS) 11th Feb / 12:00 R1 1200m 2yo  3. Cavalry Rose Back 1757148077 11-Feb-12
11:59    C 3.1  10.00   3.1 21.00

Be grateful for small mercies Silly
Report Lets Elope February 11, 2012 6:44 AM GMT
Well done TVN great shot purely of Lets Be Happy's arse in the mounting yard in thelast at caulfield. So far its the only runner they managed to show shots of its arse only. Unbelievable.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON February 15, 2012 11:13 AM GMT
Quick grab-bag/summary of the last few days that I saw.

At Sandown, Bruce said, after finishing them all in the yard......

"that's the mounting yard, while they'te IN the mounting yard, which is good"

Well said, Bruce. Encouraging comment, I'll leave the coverage alone.

Today at Mornington, however, cracking jokes while they were in the yard, comments from Gately in tandem,

no other meetings covered at all and lots of interviews ,  meant  .... an opportunity to follow words with actions

was wasted Sad ............ to the NAUGHTY CHAIR , Bruce!!


Saturday, Caulfield, the camera positioning included one "viewing" runners over and between the heads of

connections (crowded too) as they assemble and meet near the weigh in stalls. Sad

Embarrassingly, they showed two other camera crews from? a ( professional outfit) who were positioned in the

central part of the mounting yard, gaining the best/clearest view of the horses.

Probably weren't even racing type coverages Laugh

Chalk and cheese

and the TVN mounting yard coverage reeks like Camembert Mischief
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON February 16, 2012 3:37 AM GMT
THUNDERBIRD OLZANSKI was gonna get a whack for mentioning during his SEEEmore Cry meeting

preview that he would interrupt his wisdom in order for us to see Americain complete an

exhibition gallop.

HE HASN"T BEEN SO CONCERNED ABOUT INTERRUPTING HIS WISDOM IN THE PAST TO ALLOW US TO SEE

THE RUNNERS PARADING FOR THE FIRST RACE.  Devil

Question; CAN YOU BET ON AN EXHIBITION GALLOP?

Question; CAN YOU BET ON A RACE?

Question; WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU, ADAM?


But then, he covers himself with embarrassment

by crossing to the Mounting yard, looking for Americain and says " I'm not sure if that is him

Americain is the one that's plaited up so that is, that's him, that's Americain ahhh so that's

him and the other one is Budai a former German galloper. Anyway we'll see these horses in work

very shhhh... in fact I'm not sure if these are, are they? No, no, Americain is ahhh black ..

so these might be the fillies. Mrs Grey and Mamas Choice... so we're going out of schedule here

thought..... geeez they're a bit snall for older stayers............."


A brown filly with a white blaze!!!!!!! ShockedShockedShockedShocked

Who needs to whack you, Thunderbird? You mortally wound yourself !!! Silly

You need to go.
Report Lets Elope February 16, 2012 3:44 AM GMT
I noticed that myself, fancy not recognising Americain, one of the most magifnicent equine specimens you will see, they were even carrying their various racing silks.
Report Lets Elope February 16, 2012 3:45 AM GMT
try that again magnificent equine specimens, damn typo's
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON February 16, 2012 3:49 AM GMT
and then they show ONE!!!!!!!!!!!! fkn horse IN the yard for the first race Devil

ffs, I'm makin a voooodooo thunderbird doll Mischief
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON February 19, 2012 3:58 AM GMT
Watched the replay of yesterdays TVN coverage of the Lightning Stakes meeting.

It seems an effort was made to show ALL of them in the yard !!!

Won't complain about the other facets, at the mo ..... THE INTENTION SHOWN.... WAS GOOOOD !

Happy
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON February 23, 2012 1:08 PM GMT
The mounting yard coverage from yesterdays Sandown meeting, with some good size fields,

hosted by Shane and Bruce appeared to continue the good intent.TAKE A BOW, boys.

As for Thunderbird "Americain" Olzanski at Werribee...ranged from fair to hopeless Sad as usual.

Shane and Bruce, any chance ya could pull him aside??.... ffs, seems oblivious Cry

Oh, and btw Thunderbird, best not to ask a question than ask a stupid one Wink

Ask Tony Vasil Laugh
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON February 28, 2012 9:21 AM GMT
Will go back over the weekends coverage, soon. For the moment though, let us consider the

coverage of the last two days of yearling sales as a contrast.

Seemingly a DIFFERENT CAMERA CREW / PRODUCER

What they didn't do....

- cover the horses on screen with information ( in this case breeding/ stud farm details)

- choose camera positions located well above the horse

- choose camera positions reliant on human heads not obscuring the view


What they did do...

- Used two or even three screens (within a full screen)Auctioneer, bidder, horse.



Obviously a tiny "mounting yard", unobscured and well lit were conditions perfect for the

showcasing of a subject (yearling)........ but

if the same crew who work on racedays were in action, the powerful vendor/ breeding operations

would have had their guts for garters.   Mischief.... Wouldn't that be lovely Laugh
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON March 5, 2012 6:12 AM GMT
The last at Warrnambool, they crossed to the yard as the toppy approached it,

admittedly 15 minutes before start time, Shane got through the entire 13 runners and

showed a replay before the jockeys mounted up Shocked

GOLD STAR and ELEPHANT STAMP...... SHANE TEMPLETON Love

Setting the standard .... that is regularly required!!
Report megsy March 5, 2012 6:53 AM GMT
i think you have em on the back foot SPOOON.im sure they read this thread.

lets hope they pick up their game more often, doubt it, but dreams are free.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON March 9, 2012 4:35 PM GMT
Don't usually watch either "show" but happened across another two glaring examples of the

TVN HYPOCRISY lately.

Richard Hains? on the Early Mail

THE INTERESTING HORSE IS BASHAN AND IT WILL PAY TO SEE HIM IN THE YARD

Oh, reeeeeeeeeeeallllly, Richard??? What are you saying?? hmmmmmmmmmm Mischief


Richie Callender on Get On

bemoaning, getting it wrong on his personal view of the mounting yard...

"when you don't have a bet in the morning, like Pierro, who I was declaring last week,

ya get there ya see him walk IN THE YARD, he made me look anorexic, he was huge, oh he was

fat, as Mark Sheahan said, "guts dragging on the ground" and you say huh, too clever Richie

boy ya did well here
, and then they win anyway....."


Hmmmm, Richie, we hear what you're saying. You'd have been disappointed if you'd backed it

before you saw it in the mounting yard. Mischief

Just because you and others "got it wrong" doesn't change the fact that once again you

reinforce....... it's important for YOU ....to see them IN THE YARD.

INDISPUTABLE HYPOCRISY Devil

LIFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report starry2 March 10, 2012 8:01 AM GMT
Spoon i hear you brother but have a think back about 10 years when all we had was sky, you wouldnt have known there was a bookie on course because they never told you the flucs, you never saw a horse in the yard and they showed you half a race.
Now If you think TVN are bad lets have a look at Sky, Matt Browning, Richard Freedman, Greg Radley, Jo McKinnon wouldnt know arthur from martha when it comes to form and then there is the bald Matthews who would talk under water for 20 minutes and say nothing.
Please no contest.
Secondly how many more trials are Sky going f**k up at the provincial trials, its a sheltered workshop.
Report megsy March 10, 2012 8:13 AM GMT
i watched TVN after bart ****s horse won, bart wasnt giving much away to the TVN guy, actually very reserve in his replies.

i flicked the channel to channel 7 in time for their interview with bart, he was full of beans, joking, more indepth in his replies.....maybe he dislikes TVN also???
Report starry2 March 10, 2012 10:40 AM GMT
Yes didnt look too interested in talking to Clark which i have noticed previously also
Report gardenstar March 10, 2012 11:06 AM GMT
Dont blame Bart ...Clarke is a FIGJAM
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON March 10, 2012 12:52 PM GMT
Did notice Bart seemed "disinterested", he looked a treat in the yard though Cool

Megsy, I do not dislike TVN. I dislike their negligence of the mounting yard coverage.

Starry, gimme a break....35 years ago, even the average joe was able to record and

replay footage. This is a TELEVISION STATION... they don't lack technology!!!   

TVN is a dedicated thoroughbred racing channel...primarily NSW and Victoria.

IT EXISTS TO PROMOTE WAGERING.

To do that , it puts on "discussion" shows, race replays,  "expert' analysis, trial info

etc and of course on-track coverage.

The "value" of "viewing" the horses in the mounting yard has been referred to by every

single person holding a microphone for TVN.  The hypocrisy is.......

the only consistent hiqh quality vision of horses they have shown, was from....


THE YEARLING SALES !! ....no betting there , just so you know Mischief
Report Lets Elope March 10, 2012 2:06 PM GMT
Again couldnt agree more Spoon, we're not interest in listening to the like of caroline crap on about breeding pre race, richie, bruce, gately, richo waffle on with nonsense interviews with trainers pre race and if you insist on having them why do they have to be on the screen at the expense of the horses in the yard, they can be showing the horses at the same time and stick the talking heads in the top right corner of the screen.

It's not that hard, show the bloody horses each and every time that is your your job, take a leaf out of Nike's book and just do it TVN.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON March 14, 2012 6:25 AM GMT
Saw some...... just IQ'd the rest......... of Sale, today

TERRY BAILEY running the coverage of the yard......

LoveYOU ARE MY HERO Love

One for the archives

Thank you, Terry.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON March 27, 2012 4:55 PM BST
Jason Richardson Kilmore  27/3

R1 Crossed to the yard 10 mins prior to start
4 of 10 shown in the yard Cry

R2 Crossed to the yard  11 mins prior to start
Some serious waffling  meant the cameraman moved on to the next horse without waiting for the end of his assessments on more than one occasion (hint hint) Mischief
Managed to get a cheerio to proud new-father, Troy Corstens, so.........
5 of 8 shown in the yard Cry

R3   Crossed to the yard 10 mins prior to start
Some serious waffling  meant the cameraman moved on to the next horse without waiting for the end of his assessments on more than one occasion, actually moved on to the 3 then the 4 while he was still burbling about the 2.  When he came up for air he noticed this and said “we’ll have to slow down a bit here”  Laugh
8 of 9 shown in the yard

R4   Crossed to the yard 10 mins prior to start
5 of 10 shown in the yard Cry

R5  Crossed to the yard 11 mins prior to start
6 of 7 shown in the yard

R6  Crossed to the yard 10 mins prior to start
6 of 6  shown in the yard …….SHOULD WE APPLAUD??

R7  Crossed to the yard 10 mins prior to start
6 of 6  shown in the yard …….. THINK THERE”S A PATTERN FORMING!

R8  Crossed to the yard 12 mins prior to start
6 of 12  shown in the yard…….. YEP, THERE IT IS!! Cry

It appears the "right" number for Jason to cover within the mounting yard is 6 runners, with a whopping

THIRD of the entire meeting's participants unseen in the yard  Shocked

Kudos to the cameraman / producer who at least attempted to move through them at a more realistic pace.

Seems from the Race 3 embarrassment that Jason may be gazing intently at his IPad ala THUNDERBIRD, completely

oblivious to the movements, progress, within the mounting yard, just metres away. Mischief


I wonder if it's a coincidence that the two most....ummmmm.. "progressive" and "upwardly mobile" hosts are the two

worst offenders in regard to weighing up the value of their "assessments" against the viewers opportunity to see ALL

of the horses in the yard. Methinks it's not. Cool


Offering his insight and opinion on runners and the race (overall)is part of the role, I understand that, however

preaching to the converted, there really is no need to consistently repeat details that are listed in every form guide

or who is riding them........ unless the audience is vision impaired. Offering insights into the Dam's racetrack

career when the horse itself has had a dozen starts, sending cheerios and burbling with the studio host may have a

time.....it's just NOT while they walk around in the mounting yard for 5 minutes. Devil


Cmon, Jason.................   LIFT !!!!!
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON April 6, 2012 4:06 PM BST
Kyneton meeting, T Bailey in charge of the mounting yard.

Race 2 no-2 "looks to my eye in the yard as if the run will do her the world of good, she's got very warm, she looks to be carrying a tummy, I had her right in the mix......

I've gone from being a big fan.....to being... I'm happy to look at her, not have a play with her today"

then wrapping up his tips...

from what he'd seen in the yard he changed 2 of his 4 selected runners!!!!!!!

THE TWO HE LEFT OUT RAN 5TH.....AND LAST

THE TWO HE PUT IN RAN 2ND ....AND FOURTH

Good call, Terry 
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Race 5

Crossed to the yard 8 mins prior

10 starters ...ONLY SEVEN OF THEM SEEN

"Zaeem looks EXTREMELY fit going down to the barrier stalls"

Well, Terry, that's great... but looking at it's arse didn't afford us the same opportunity to judge it, did it?

Wins at $12 and the quinella horse also unseen IN the yard!

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The wash-up for Kyneton;

Another dogs breakfast, did get to see most of them IN the

yard but as highlighted above......MOST is NOT good enough!

Add to that the camera positioning, one at the bottom corner

of the yard and the other set up high......just plain DUMB.

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For an example of how to "show" a horse on camera, the raceday crew should watch the Inglis Easter Yearling Preview
show that Caroline Searcy presented recently. Now THAT is how to provide an opportunity to ASSESS a horse on looks walking in a loop.

Amongst other things, the camera was always shooting from generally North, they limited the vision restricted by angle and only filmed from ground level.

Of course it's different to a mounting yard with many subjects, however ..... it can be done. Raceday Crew, feel free to PM me for assistance if required. The helpful fact is that GOOD VISION of a runner probably only requires
5 SECONDS of vision, per runner.

In essence, Terry.... WE, THE VIEWERS, DESERVE THE SAME "VISION" THAT YOU HAVE!!

It's not alot to ask for is it?, really......
Report Mahogany April 6, 2012 4:23 PM BST
Great Thread THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON.

Be nice if they also didn't cover the horses with all the odds jockey trainer info as their showing us the horse parade.

Lift the (odds-info) over the horse so its at the top of the screen or keep it under but not right smack on the horse so we cant see anything.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON April 8, 2012 8:57 PM BST
Tx, Mahogany.....you are correct, on-screen graphics is another dog's breakfast in itself.

The Cranbourne night meeting..... on the eve of Good Friday

Rob Guest and Adam Olzanski run the show with lots of input from MOUNTING YARD man, SAM HYLAND

10 mins prior to start Race 1  ...... 8 starters ........ALL SHOWN

With an extra light globe provided somewhere since the last meeting ( more are required), the view of the mounting yard (barring

camera height). WAS GOOD!!! and similarly to the recent Sandown meeting where Jason *"Meatloaf" Richardson was chaperoned by

Shane .........the pace of comments / assessments shared by Gately and Thunderbird was excellent!!!

What day is it? Who said miracles don't happen?    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76RrdwElnTU
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7 mins prior to start Race 2 .......10 starters..... 5 SHOWN !!!!!!!

Cramped for time by FILL, including ANOTHER lengthy preview of the Golden Slipper and Thunderbird waxing lyrical over the

chicken curry in the cafeteria (filmed on an angle as usual) ... crossing to the yard 7 minutes prior is at least...RUDE !!!

Irony determined that the FIRST FIVE HOME in the race were those 5 UNSEEN in the yard, with even the eventual winner #2 well backed

and allowed to miss the compressed coverage simply by being held a little longer in the pre-parade ring.

A promising start followed by .................. FUKKING PITIFUL "coverage" of the mounting yard  !!

RACE 3 .....8 minutes prior........8 starters......... 6 SHOWN

RACE 4...... 7 minutes prior....... 8 starters.......... ALL shown     Wooohoooo

RACE 5....... 6 minutes PRIOR !!!..........8 starters...... TWO SHOWN....FFS!!

Cramped for time by nothing more important than the three of them previewing the RYDER Stakes (two days away) and responding to viewer

email questions then crossing to the yard to see TWO runners is about as poor as it gets........... who is actually running the show??

Don't they own a watch between them???

RACE 6 .....8 minutes prior........8 starters......... ALL SHOWN (although pretty average vision)... Yeehaaaa??

RACE 7 ..... 7 minutes prior.......10 runners...5 SHOWN......... FFS

Race 8 .... 8 minutes prior ...... 9 runners... 8 SHOWN

In summary, what a debacle. They showed in the first race that a decent coverage of the yard can be achieved, after that someone seems

to have forgotten where the line between FILL and COVERAGE is. The ONLY meeting to show for the night means FILL is required, some will

"work", some will not, regardless........... IT IS TIME FILLER.          WAKE THE FK UP to the obvious!!!


Gately and Thunderbird to the naughty bench......... FACING THE WALL!!!

Sammy Hyland,.... I shouldn't ..oh dear...ummmm.... nah, ...., seems a nice bloke, havin a crack..... ummmm, keep punchin, Sammy.


*Meatloaf is also of the opinion that....... TWO OUTTA THREE AINT BAD


Coolmore "The Home of Champions"....... sponsoring the mounting yard coverage.

More appropriate would be

Eukanuba " Quality Dogs' Breakfast"......sponsoring the mounting yard.
Report Lets Elope April 9, 2012 1:18 AM BST
spot on again spoon.
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON April 11, 2012 3:52 AM BST
AHA! Lateral thinking..brings me..and my emoticons Love back!..through the side door.

Wodonga yesterday, hosted by serial Mounting Yard Meanderer........ Adam Olzanski
(Awww Sad, It's gonna be ugly......for sure)

One mounting yard camera? poorly positioned ......as per usual.

Missed taping the first two races , but.... after watching the rest.....I'd be amazed if they

were any different to the next 6.

No NSW meeting for coverage, less interruptions/distractions for the Easter Yearling Sale....

programming, most ummmmmm...."fortunate" for "them"............ hmmmmmmm Mischief


A non-descript Wodonga meeting is left for coverage

R3 ...9 minutes to Start......10 runners........ALL SHOWN IN the yard. Happy

OH MY LORD!!.... With time to spare too!!

A flash in the pan? A freak of nature? A directive from "above"? Have the planets aligned?

Has Thunderbird had an epiphany? Has he finally realized........There is no spoon



We'll see. Mischief


R4 ...9 minutes to Start......9 runners........ALL SHOWN IN the yard. Happy

ShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked

Speechless! Back to back perfect scores ( vision sloppy , that's not his fault), going for

three straight Shocked Cmonnnnnn, Thunderbird..... YOU CAN DOOOOO IT!


Can't believe it! I'm barracking for him Silly

R5 ..6 minutes to Start....12 runners........Gee, makin it hard for him Cry

...ALL SHOWN IN the yard. ..SOUND OF APPLAUSE!!..in fact... I STAND to applaud Blush


R6 ..7 minutes prior to Start.10 runners. missed one(just onto the track).9 SHOWN IN the yard

Missed one, he's only human... hardly worth mentioning.... MY BOY ADAM Love


R7 ..8 minutes prior to Start...9 runners. ALL SHOWN IN the yard ... of course Cool


R8 ..8 minutes prior to Start...12 runners..ALL SHOWN IN the yard



AMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZING SCENES!  It's like the aftermath of the 1990 AFL Grand Final!!

and as I did back then, I re-watch the highlights, through teary eyes..as ADAM Love

heads back toward the WINNERS STALL to receive accolades from the adoring crowd.


I watch to see why they crossed to ADAM with only 6 minutes prior to the 5th race...

where he was confronted by 12 runners. His defining moment for the day Love

ADAM Love EATS PRESSURE!!

They'd been interviewing the vendor of the MILLION DOLLAR YEARLING Mischief

Cross to the yard, no 15 (rider aboard) on screen (no 10, rider aboard) seen in foreground.

Flick to tote prices full screen, then back to the 2 (in the pre-parade ring)

then #3 ( no rider )

then #2 entering the mounting yard (no rider)

then #3 again (no rider)

then #4 (rider up) as he leaves the yard and trots away, on the track....

hmmmmm, that's funny...the #3 is in front of him on the track, WITH RIDER UP??

and... the 5 ( rider up, trots along behind him, on the track)

then #5 in the yard ( no rider) Shocked.....oooooh, say it aint so Sad

then #6 (no rider)

then #8 (no rider)

then #10 (no rider)...... hmmmm, it had one when they first crossed Shocked

then #11 (no rider)

then #12 (no rider)

then #13 (no rider)

then #15 (RIDER UP) with #10 in the foreground ......OH DEAR Mischief

It's the same vision, exactly the same vision shown when they initially crossed

from the yearling sale. Devil

then #16 (rider up)

Then hurry back to the Sales to interview the purchaser of the MILLION DOLLAR YEARLING.

ONLY TWO MINUTES LATER, unable to stop him talking, they cross to the track moments

before they leave the barriers.

My forensic analysis of the match defining highlight, Race 5,  has uncovered a sham.

CryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCry

A couple of splices almost covered the fact.... THAT MOUNTING YARD COVERAGE WAS PRE-RECORDED,

with "LIVE" viewing cut in a couple of times, to "catch" a couple of the runners.

PRE-RECORDED WAS NOT NOTED DURING IT"S SHOWING Devil

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It just shows what can be done when the "DECREE" comes from the "right" people. Mischief

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And as Adam comes back to scale, the crowd has now "turned"...the mood has changed... and

punters no longer spray champagne, they line the fence to hurl abuse.

As he nears, looking afraid, I notice the champagne spray has affected his face... furrow lines

are appearing, he's ageing with every step closer Shocked and as he completes his journey,

I see the spray tan dribbling from his fetlocks to reveal...... two white socks Shocked

It's not Adam Olzanski at all!!! Its...it's.....it's JOHN MESSARA!!!!
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And the sun sets... on a non-descript meeting at Wodonga..

old-timers remember another non-descript meeting at Doomben..on the 8th of August, 1984.


Exposed.

Do it for them....so DO IT FOR US Devil
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON February 14, 2013 4:51 AM GMT
Richard Haynes recently expressed his dismay at the recorded mounting yard pictures coming from country NSW via Sky.

sigh.." gee, fair dinkum.. you get to see the favourite for about three seconds...(pause)...we've been down this road

before, (shake of the head), beyond our control unfortunately."




Gee, Richard. Imagine how that would be so easily rectified if TVN were in control. Imagine how much time could be

devoted to showing the market leader, in the Mounting Yard, before every race.



Ok then, get ready.......I'll compile some stats on the issue at hand ......and post them up on here.


Is that?...no, couldn't be....is that.... HYPOCRITE, I smell?


We'll see Mischief
Report The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE February 14, 2013 4:58 AM GMT
My God SPLOON you've dredged up an old thread!! I only do that when I am apocalyptic drunk. Well done it's only 4pm!
Report Joel February 14, 2013 5:02 AM GMT
How drunk are you now?
Report The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE February 14, 2013 5:19 AM GMT
On a scale of one to ten I'd say about Millwall football hooligan walking home after 0-5 loss.
Report Joel February 14, 2013 5:24 AM GMT
OKay.......
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON March 13, 2015 10:09 AM GMT
They never went close to getting "yard vision" right.......Devil

I'll still miss them Cry



An update from the Racing Victoria Chairman on Media Rights
Dear Owners,

I write to you again as a valued industry participant regarding our media rights and the broadcasting of Victorian racing.

As advised previously, Racing Victoria (RV) has been working closely with Country Racing Victoria (CRV) and our Metro Clubs – Victoria Racing Club, Moonee Valley Racing Club and Melbourne Racing Club – since Christmas to successfully complete the break-up of TVN and to consider future broadcast agreements.

This work has considered the optimum broadcast models for Victorian racing via traditional mediums in homes, pubs and clubs; across the rapidly-evolving digital world; and to a range of international racing jurisdictions, whilst exploring new technologies to provide a better viewing experience.

Throughout this process, our primary focus has been on the future growth of our sport and achieving the best outcome – not the quickest – for the Victorian racing industry today and into the future.

RV, CRV and the Metro Clubs are united and committed to recruiting the next generation of punters, owners and fans and the broadcast of our product is critical to that.

It remains our firm belief that to achieve this we must ensure that more people can watch and engage with Victorian racing whenever, wherever and however they choose.

Ultimately, we are committed to increasing the customer base for Victorian racing so that we can grow returns to you and build future investment in our sport.

As you are likely aware, TVN will cease transmission this weekend with Flemington’s Super Saturday meeting the last to be broadcast on the channel.

One of our objectives throughout this process was to ensure that vision of Victorian racing is available on every Australian’s mobile phone, tablet and desktop computer.

We are collectively pleased to deliver this through Racing.com which will, from this Sunday, 15 March, offer Victorian racing live and free across these digital devices through ‘Racing Live’.

You will be able to watch extensive coverage of all Victorian TAB races wherever you are, with an expert team delivering pre and post-race analysis, interviews and news live from the track on Racing.com.

Racing.com will also continue to offer a free archive of all Victorian races, along with an expanding news service.

For those wishing to view on TV at home, or in pubs and clubs, Sky Racing will continue to broadcast Victorian racing on Sky 1, Sky 2 and Sky World from Sunday.

We remain in good faith negotiations with Tabcorp, the owners of Sky Racing, on a long-term arrangement for the broadcast of Victorian racing.

These negotiations, which separately and collectively cover our future domestic, international and digital broadcast rights, will continue beyond 15 March.

We are wagering partners with Tabcorp and have a common desire to expand the audience. Our wagering joint venture with the TAB extends until 2024 and we are committed to making it a continued success.

In terms of pay-TV, we are continuing to pursue the opportunity for a premium broadcast of Victorian racing on channel 522 – that occupied by TVN until this Saturday – however this will not occur from Sunday.

Another stated objective was to ensure that Victorian racing is available in every Australian’s lounge room. We maintain a desire to grow free-to-air coverage of our sport and will continue to pursue this.

RV, CRV and the Metro Clubs have negotiated with the Seven Network for 25 existing premium Victorian racedays to remain available on free-to-air TV following the demise of TVN.

The Seven Network’s coverage continues beyond Super Saturday with the broadcast of our standalone Saturday meetings at Bendigo and Mornington in the coming weeks.

We have also been working to develop a framework that will allow future broadcasters the ability to deliver a more engaging and contemporary view of Victorian racing.

As a result, the opportunity will exist over the next six to 12 months for us to deliver broadcasters multiple feeds from the racetrack, thus allowing more camera angles, interactive broadcasts and replays, as well as the integration of new technology like Trakus and Hawkeye.

From an integrity viewpoint, this framework will deliver enhanced connectivity allowing us to expand the use of our Control Room – a secondary raceday integrity team based at our Flemington offices – to all TAB meetings, with live feeds of Hawkeye and the photo finish.

In the break-up of TVN, we have also acquired Best Bets and Winning Post which will complement our digital offering on Racing.com by offering first class form guides and editorial in print.

Much work has been done since Christmas on building a platform for future growth and we will continue to work on achieving the right long-term outcome for Victorian racing – both locally and internationally.

I know people want a quick deal but our responsibility is to get the best outcome for Victorian racing. As an industry we are united in the goal of taking Victorian racing to more people on more platforms and ensuring we continue to expand the audience for our sport.

You can be assured that the interests of all participants are at the heart of each decision made.

We trust that you will enjoy the free and expanded digital broadcast on Racing.com and continue to watch Victorian racing on Sky Racing and the Seven Network.

Yours sincerely,

Robert Roulston
Chairman
Racing Victoria
Report Thebas March 13, 2015 10:25 PM GMT
We have also been working to develop a framework that will allow future broadcasters the ability to deliver a more engaging and contemporary view of Victorian racing.

As a result, the opportunity will exist over the next six to 12 months for us to deliver broadcasters multiple feeds from the racetrack, thus allowing more camera angles, interactive broadcasts and replays, as well as the integration of new technology like Trakus and Hawkeye.

From an integrity viewpoint, this framework will deliver enhanced connectivity allowing us to expand the use of our Control Room – a secondary raceday integrity team based at our Flemington offices – to all TAB meetings, with live feeds of Hawkeye and the photo finish.



... they mention a lot in their statement Spoon BUT not one mention about the parade yard .... which was so bad as a total overview it became laughable

the answer i received ... from the one email i wrote to them was ... it was more important they show the current tote prices

(as if punters couldn't get the current tote prices from anywhere else ... not their computer, not the multiple screens in the pubs, not the multiple screens in the t@b houses themselves ... ie they didn't give a stuff about the value of the parade and failed to see any significance in a full parade coverage to enhance the amount of $$$ punted - quite an abysmal business deceision for any industry to take)
Report henryluca March 13, 2015 10:43 PM GMT
A big big reason why I tuned out of sky coverage ....used to make me so very angry to see prices overlayed on the horses....
and not many things upset me (nrl rorted ganes excepted)

But back to the point ..yes...fluctuation prices (and therefore who gives a damn) preference to the horse flesh
Report THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON January 5, 2016 10:44 AM GMT
"Racing Network" doing any better??? Confused
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