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Early races at bendigo, fields of 6 , 5 and 5 runners
What's the market we see all of them inthe yard ?? Shouldn't even be a question!! but............ who's doing the on track commentary????????? exciting stuff. 9 runners in the Fourth so it's a bit like a Quaddie........... one leg is aaaaaaaaaaalways "tougher" than the rest. Shane Templeton- "Quaddie" $1.50? Any of the others- hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
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Fell at the first !!!!!!!!! Only managed to get four of the six horses in the yard UTTER EMBARRASSMENT |
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Anyone watchin?? did they get any legs, at all!!
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worst website ever
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Firstly
TERRY CLIFTON TAKE A BOW !!!!!! Of the races I saw yesterday........ OUTSTANDING !!! A man who "moved" through the runners IN the yard, seeming to understand the OBVIOUS REALITY.... THEY ARE ONLY IN THE YARD FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME!!!! Sound of applause The race just run at Pakenham, Thunderbird Olzanski was bullied by the cameraman into showing them ALL!! IN the yard. Hilarious. Cameraman,............. TAKE A BOW Thunderbird,..............TAKE A LEAF |
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I see it.......... but I don't believe it !!!!!!!!
A sense of urgency from the Thunderbird !!!!!!!!!( and cameraman ) I'm goin for a lay down Bit teary, actually If this continues ( dreaming I know ) I'll move on to fixing the camera positioning |
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Blimey Spoon, you do have some pull.
Well done. They must have been reading. Power to the FORUM. |
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Spoon, if you did have some influence on the coverage change then very well done. Now get onto those Channel 7 #1^*wits - all the best with that one!
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Pj, as I mentioned on another thread, the CH7 coverage is not a "real" racing coverage. It is a
completely different "animal" and my only beef there is the exclusivity that deprives TVN and the other mob of providing a "real" racing telecast for the "real punter". Highlighted best by the shambolic DEAL OR NO DEAL debacle. Pj and Chante, influence?........... I wish!! Perhaps the pen IS mightier than the sword !!! Pleased about that.......... my sword is rusty Would be ridiculous to admit I google earthed Betfair Park to see how far in that stupid prop Panda was, drove around the course late at night(perimeter fence evaluation ), on my travels.... and considered kidnapping him, leaving a note of demand re the mounting yard coverage and sending him back piece by piece if snubbed. Not easy but do-able (If he was wet he would be heavy, etc, etc) . Like I said, my sword is rusty Therefore I deny it |
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The toppy looked well at The Rat
It was the only one seen in the yard |
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Academy Jack, collared close to home and ran 3rd - $2.80 a place , for the record.
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NEW LOWS !!! (if possible) at Geelong R5
"Cramped" for time by Tatura ???? ( Cramped by ignorance, actually ) Crossed with 9 mins to race time at Geelong Saw 3!!! in the yard with the third (#6) being followed by the camera for two furlongs on it's way to the barriers while Terry gives his assessment of the 7, then the 8, then the sleeping? cameraman gives us a shot of three pairs of human feet walking off into the distance. Add a full-screen interview with Heath Connors.... ffs One day man will invent the ability to record "live" television and play that vision .... WHEN APPROPRIATE |
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The first at Ballarat, SIX RUNNERS, after "sponsors anouncements" .... cross back to Terry with 9 mins
to start time. Terry chats to the track manager while the runners walk the yard in the background. End of chat, change camera, watch horses heading away to 1000m start. Timing? ...... for the viewer, disregard or contempt? UNFKNBELIEVABLE |
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Terry Bailey, apart from concise form assessments.....YOU ARE ON THE NAUGHTY CHAIR!!!
Said last week "I love to have a good look at them in the yard, that's a big part of the assessment when having a punt" Well, ffs Terry, if only we had a dedicated racing channel that could give us punters at home the same luxury!!!! Imagine it, ahhhhhhhh, a camera showing live pictures of the horses IN the yard, wouldn't it be lovely? We could make it (if we choose)a big part of our assessment when we were having a punt, just like you, Terry Last straw, Ballarat R6 cross back to Terry, precious time wasted while they're in the yard as he has a lengthy chit chat about his and Richie's Twitter accounts with central host..... then complain about 40 minutes between races ........then we see 3yes, 3 horses IN the yard!! Then ....... as the rest canter off toward the barrier, he gets to No-5 and says............................. LOOKED FABULOUS IN THE YARD HYPOCRISY of the highest order, Terry.................... as Leyton says............. COMEONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Ararat, amateur hour as usual. Might take a few days off to create......... a .............
TVN Mounting Yard Vision Manifesto ATB |
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i tried hard to watch the horses .. but some are paraded by a cute piece with a cute behind ..
can't they just summarise which horses that paraded well ... and let us get back to the cuties |
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David Gately, giving his form assessments for the entire meeting at Mornington , completes them as the toppy
leaves the yard for the first race. NO MOUNTING YARD VISION AT ALL HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO How SWETTENHAM STUD.....The Home of Champions would want to be associated with bringing ("the mounting yard vision for Swettenham Stud") such a sloppy, amateur, inconsistent and hypocritical product to market is beyond me. It's certainly not a product most advertisers who are espousing excellence and professionalism would accept as it is a reflection of their business. |
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After a marathon coverage of a minor Singapore race, Shane Templeton.... "we're very close to
the running of the feature, today, race 7 The Werribee Cup of 2012. Runners are in the mounting yard and the jockeys are up so let's get straight into this for Coolmore Australia, the home of champions. Let's try and get some of them done before they go out onto the track" Ummm, Shane,....... The topweight just stepped ON to the track, winking ****s galore after that as they head away to the barriers!!! RUDE |
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Do you think that are doing this to try and get people back to the track because they don't het the coverage on TV?
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Get people back to the track What for??? Pie sales?
They exist to encourage wagering, FULL STOP. They are "doing this" , even though they speak of mounting yard appearance and employ a specialist on Saturdays to give an assessment, because the penny hasn't dropped that we want... and should be able to form our own assessments from the "vision" available IN the yard. Cheers |
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Yesterday at Warrnambool, Shane mentions " the favourite is in from $2.80 to $2.20......
probably support from those punters who saw her in the pre-parade and mounting yard, looked really well." On a day where, early, the only other "vision" was of the yearling sale in NZ..... in one case, someone decided they couldn't "leave" the sale until horses were leaving the mounting yard HYPOCRISY, IN A NUTSHELL |
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At this juncture I wish to officially concur with everything that you have said, are saying and will say in the future about TVN's appalling treatment of mounting yard enthusiasts like yourself and myself Spoonman.
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Tx, pleased to hear we have similar views , TQ.
Yesterday at Sandown, Shane, referring to Cheviot Beach says, " and he looks terrific today, particularly looking at him in the mounting yard I rate him really highly." (Ran 2nd) (I concurred with his view but preferred to back another I liked from the yard due to the R Smerdon/ D Oliver factors.) Just another day of "some" of them seen in the yard at varying angles with the dreaded "overhead shot" in regular use Might as well show them from the Goodyear Blimp. Perhaps we could strap a helmet-cam to Shane, Terry or Thunderbird and get the same view they enjoy. |
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They are hopeless, tape it or do something different , PLEASE!
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Cross to Thunderbird, 10 mins prior to race he goes through the tote prices
Then cross to mounting yard vision…………… (R6 Wodonga ……6 runners!!!) “And we ahhh take a look firstly, at Bringenbrong. …. Well he’s had a few hard luck stories throughout his career, Bringenbrong , but ahh the day he won at Seymour back at the end of December he really showed his true colours and in fact he goes very well at this venue as well he’s been here three times, his local track, in a race, for a win and a minor placing. I guess his race style has always made it a bit difficult for him because he has, in the past got back in his races he’s out to sixteen hundred metres today in a small field though, with a claim from a good draw and I would’nt be surprised if he’s you know in the second line if they do pair off in three lots…. of..ahhh.. two, (Cameraman moves on to next runner,Penzevengi ) And I wouldn’t be surprised if hes just behind the leaders here..ahhh, he seemingly had every chance at Sandown last time he was in the running line about three pairs back he was brought to the centre he loomed up for a stride and he battled away in the race won by Crawfish and the form around him and Wyngardiam Leviosa is quite strong from his previous win in showcase seventy two and here he is in this regular seventy two and he looks quite well placed so Bringenbrong is going to be hard to beat. Penzevengi is the two, Redoutes Choice gelding who David Hayes has been taking up the road to Sydney on a number of occasions trying to get some decent prizemoney up there and he’s run a couple of encouraging events including one time over nineteen hundred metres at Canterbury where after missing the start he actually ran on very well albeit with only fifty kilos on his back after Chad Schofield’s claim. (Cameraman moves on to next runner, HEZACRUISER) Ahh he went to the ATC meeting at Kembla Grange last start in a restricted ahhh no metro win race and he just kept on whacking away to the line so he’s been given a freshen up of five to six weeks and hence he drops back from two thousand to sixteen hundred metres ahhh and that won’t be against him what will be is maybe a lack of pace and from a wide gate the query is where will he land will he go back to the last pair and if it’s a sit sprint will he be able to run over the top of them so there’s a few little question marks there but on ability on the class of horse hes been ummm meeting in his last couple of starts he’s well placed coming back to this level. Here is Hezacruiser…well he had a good campaign last time in work put together a couple of victories at Wangaratta and at Seymour then they took him to town and everything was thrown on it’s head when obviously he pulled up scratchy because it was too bad to be true with a thirty length defeat he was given a good decent spell of about six months he won a trial and has returned this campaign wuth some encouraging runs especially his performance at Bendigo second up and his last run at Seymour when he raced in a forward position but couldn’t quite sustain it to the line. Just by default he’s the leader here in what could be a moderately run race and he has to be given a good chance based on that fact. (Cameraman moves on to next runner, SET TO POUNCE) he is five fifty out to six dollars. Now at the other end will be Set to Pounce, no doubt, Set To Pounce who was a big improver coming back from a break this campaign he’s always shown ability but he must have had a few issues he started his career with Danny Obrien , Danny was able to get a Sandown win out of him as a three year old and then in a couple of subsequent short preparations he didn’t quite come up no doubt Erin was learning about him last prep when in four starts he was down the track each time but boy it was a good return at Kyneton he gave most of them a headstart was brought to the centre and really roared home under Stacey Rawiller then went to town again back to the scene of his metro win at Sandown back in two thousand and nine and went back there in early December and on a slow track he was far from disgraced. But his normal race style is (Cameraman moves on to next runner, THIS CATS MAGIC) to ahhh get back at least that’s been the case in recent starts not saying that he can’t adapt an on pace role because the day he did win at Sandown he was a joint leader so there might be some versatility there but in my speed map I had him in the last pair. On to the six This Cats Magic for Brian Cox and Linda Meech . So Brian’s got a couple of strong chances here and This Cats Magic has got Linda the inside gate and ahhh a good record at this track its had four wins overrall , two of them at its home ahhh home venue. Now it’s going to get the right run from that gate I’ve got it in the box seat here on my map ahhh this it’s peak distance as mentioned ticks the box with the track ahhh comes out of the Courtya race against it’s own sex a few weeks back ago at Sandown prior to that was running well at Wangaratta and at Wagga in some ahhh country races (THE CATS MAGIC LEAVES THE MOUNTING YARD AND HEADS ON TO THE TRACK !!!!!!!!!!!) had to lump sixty kilos at Wagga and I thought did quite well coming from the tail of the field but today should be getting the right run (Cameraman moves on to next runner, COSTA MUCHO, AS IT LEAVES THE YARD!!!!!!!!) to suggest if it gets the right breaks could easily win this, three dollars eighty there’s good money around for it, in from four twenty to suggest it could threaten the stable companion, Bringenbrong. And I can’t say that Costa Mucho won’t win but he is the clear outsider of the field and after all he is coming out of a…. a win last start in a cup race but it was a picnic cup as far as picnic standards go Dederang is not one of the most premier clubs it’s a once a year program not that far away in fact from here but you can’t knock him on what he’s done last start his two previous runs at Wangaratta were decent albeit in a 58 and at Towong in a non-tab 68 ahhh I’m willing to risk him but he’s won eight races throughout his career so he knows how to win and he’ll be trying hard but I think others present as better options than him, most of his wins have been in lower grade races the benchmark fifty-fives and ahhh fifty-eights . Alright these runners are about to arrive at the start…....... FFS !!!!! Well, he might know his form?, he might be a good racecaller too?..............good luck to him but.... he has shown , above........... he has no concept of "time" and no respect for the viewers at home who want to SEE THEM ALL, IN the yard. Needs to have a word with Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward or Brains Next instalment, R7 Wodonga........ to come |
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Spoony, have you seen ESPN Live Feed of the US racing?
They have a channel for each track and show the stalls, the mounting yard ... everything I don't know why we can't have something similar here ... Oh that's right, we have TVN & Sky http://www.twinspires.com/partner/espn/ |
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T.Q. In defence of TVN the ESPN feed you refer to has a dedicated channel for each racetrack. They don't have the time constraints.
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neither do the viewers ...
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Yeah.should have read your post with eyes open. You actually said what I just said. Doh!!!!
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spoonie - I am off to stawell today and the last time I went the tvn commentator was very accessible (i i wanted to talk to the dill) I will make the effort today and pass on your regards
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TQ, no I haven't seen it, I feel it's best I dont
Max, from what I saw, Shane did his usual, "reasonable" job with the last race winner and third placegetter unseen IN the mounting yard Hope you had a good day. 10 mins prior to race (R7 Wodonga ……7 runners!!!) And lets start off with Dandy Dollar well you won’t miss him he’s a ghostly white and Jake Duffy looking for a running double Christina Jeffrey prepares this horse and she hasn’t had the galloper all that long, at his best as a young horse as a three year old he was of city class and then he just lost his game and I’m not sure whether that was due to an injury or niggling issues or he just found his mark and ahhh regressed, (Cameraman moves on to next runner SOLAR STRIKE) but anyway he returned for the first time in a while last time out at Wangaratta and for his first up run in about ten months it wasn’t that bad, he was detached from the field he tacked on and passed a couple late but he hasn’t won for a long time and the last time he won was back in two thousand and seven but it wasn’t a stakes race as a three year old at Flemington of course he was formerly prepared by Rick Hore-Lacy so if he can find anything near his best he’d be a chance but punters not giving him that hope at thirteen dollars. Here’s Solar Strike they’re giving him a better chance he’s only seven fifty in from eight as well or she this mare , a winner T Towong at that non tab meeting we been speaking about, beat a horse called Rexzeal who had been previously highly competitive in this grade ahhh last time went to Albury on pace just couldn’t continue, ahh back to twelve hundred metres in fact may be a benefit for her she’s been here twice over the twelve hundred metres and has finished out of the money both times though one was a fourth and in fact both times were a fourth in seventy two benchmark grade so both decent runs in a higher level so she’s definitely in with a hope. (Cameraman moves on to next runner HEESATOFF) Next up is horse number five, Heesatoff now he’s the exciting one in this race where some of these might have found their mark or have had their best several preparations ago he at least is on an upward trend Brian Cox looking for a double, Linda Meech rides and Linda’s been on this horse two of its three starts including the win at Echuca where she steered it to a clear cut on pace win over Bordeaux. Went to Wangaratta the other day, came into the race at the right time and was just in a blanket finish battling away but out bobbed by Second Dozen and you’d expect that just the way he raced that day the twelve hundred metres will suit and he stays in the sixty eight grade in well.. it’s hard to really assess what ahhh..depth of this sixty..ahhh what depth this sixty eight grade has because HEESATOFF STEPS ON TO THE TRACK a couple of the horses that have shown city class ability mightn’t be racing at their best but ahhh he looks well placed nonetheless from an inside gate (Cameraman moves on to next runner SOCIETAL) ON TRACK HEADING AWAY TO BARRIERS to be in the first ahh two or three he’ll be at least leading on the fence or box seating I cant see any other position for him unless he does come away from the rails and race outside the leader.Ahh here’s Societal, Danny Obrien another runner for him at his first day up at Wodonga today with his team, he’s already had a winner this filly by Mossman was an Adelaide winner in her first campaign as a three year old, back to back wins after winning on the synthetic track but this time in she’s not the same same sort of horse as an older three year old ahhh she’s really struggled at Flemington and at Sandown both her only attempts at Melbourne metro grade which you’d have to say were stronger than Adelaide metro grade which she won in last ahh campaign but you do expect more from her now at her best she can race on pace press on from that gate and try and get a good run which does play favourably at this track but there’s a big question mark is she going well has she got issues (Cameraman moves on to next runner PROVIDENTIAL) ON TRACK HEADING AWAY TO BARRIERS that are hidden…ahhhh…maybe she just needs a few runs this time in to find her form not sure and she definitely is risky because of her recent runs. Three out to four forty is the current mark. PROVIDENTIAL is horse number seven with the one and only win at twelve hundred metres not the best winning strike rate, one from twenty, David Oprey took over the training of this horse early in his career after Robert Smerdon had him for his first three starts he knows how to place, he’s placed many times in fact nine but the wins are few and far between when he did win it was here at the twelve hundred metres albeit on a heavy track, I’ve always felt that he’s better over a slightly olnger trip than twelve hundred metres and a twelve hundred metre win on a heavy track may reiterate that but ahh he’s second up and his run the other day at Wagga over a thousand which has always been too short for him actually was encouraging, he’s got race plates on for the first time which is a good sign. (PROVIDENTIAL HAS NOW ARRIVED AT THE BARRIERS!!) (Cameraman moves on to next runner AVRIL STAR) ON TRACK HEADING AWAY TO BARRIERS Well I think this ahhh gelding has a good chance today because of the claim and just the way it ahh meets the rest at the weights, Amanda Masters will take, I’m pretty sure, two and a half kilos off here , I haven’t heard an announcement but if she rides at her minimum it will be two and a half off the back of Avrils Star, Liz Albers prepares locally, Amanda knows the horse well from its two recent runs at Wodonga and at Towong , ahhh missed the start at Wodonga behind Garvan was good, had it jumped it may well have been in a better position and at Towong didn’t see that non tab meeting but in a sixty two was beaten a nose, ahhh just carrying that fifty two kilos today and the ability to race in the first half of the field is going to put him in very good stead when it comes to the crunch, he’s performed well at this distance and he’s performed well at this track and distance in combined, in combination, in the past in fact he’s never been out of the first three at the twelve hundred here at Wodonga, so he’s the one I’m leaning to at a decent price, nine dollars (HORSE HAS NOW ALMOST ARRIVED AT THE BARRIERS) And Roadacious, (Cameraman moves on to next runner ROADACIOUS) ALREADY BEHIND THE BARRIERS mare by Danroad, who’s second up today, a recent return at Corowa was ahhh fair it did cover ground from one of the outside gates it’s last win at Gundagai in a benchmark fifty five ahhh was a good looking win but just whether it stacks up to see it win today in this stronger class of race is what punters have to ahhh well toss up and at the moment they’re saying probably not and he’s been a drifter out to nineteen dollars. So that’s them as they arrive at the start……. The viewers can READ..... breeding, riders, trainers, weights are shown ON the screen buddy !!! Comprende?.... YOU DO NOT NEED TO REPEAT THEM... WE ALREADY KNOW!! And that my friends is how it's possible to only show THREE horses IN the yard from a paltry field of seven It's almost a skill, being so fkn self important!!! Calling International Rescue.............. please take him back!!!!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U6eY3ZA5XQ&feature=fvst |
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Shane I am afraid is a snob, I did attempt to approach and engage in conversation but you could see from his sneer that he wasn't interested (to be fair I did look like a bit of a hillbilly with my packed lunch - but sheesh trying to save costs and all) I did have a fun day and if you would like I can reg ail you all with the story of Max's big day out
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Bruce Clark just then in the last at Sandown "Another Prelate "he's going pretty well... this campaign" only problem with it hasnt raced since 30 October last year!!!
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Hasn't been beaten at all this prep.
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zero idea tvn no mounting yard whatsoever for rosehill race 1 all we got was the 2yo's on the way to the barrier.
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true , but wow she looked purrty on the track, couldn't help but have an interest bet ...................
without seeing the others AUS / Rose (AUS) 11th Feb / 12:00 R1 1200m 2yo 3. Cavalry Rose Back 1757145365 11-Feb-12 11:59 C 3.05 15.00 3.05 30.75 AUS / Rose (AUS) 11th Feb / 12:00 R1 1200m 2yo 3. Cavalry Rose Back 1757148077 11-Feb-12 11:59 C 3.1 10.00 3.1 21.00 Be grateful for small mercies |
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Well done TVN great shot purely of Lets Be Happy's arse in the mounting yard in thelast at caulfield. So far its the only runner they managed to show shots of its arse only. Unbelievable.
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Quick grab-bag/summary of the last few days that I saw.
At Sandown, Bruce said, after finishing them all in the yard...... "that's the mounting yard, while they'te IN the mounting yard, which is good" Well said, Bruce. Encouraging comment, I'll leave the coverage alone. Today at Mornington, however, cracking jokes while they were in the yard, comments from Gately in tandem, no other meetings covered at all and lots of interviews , meant .... an opportunity to follow words with actions was wasted ............ to the NAUGHTY CHAIR , Bruce!! Saturday, Caulfield, the camera positioning included one "viewing" runners over and between the heads of connections (crowded too) as they assemble and meet near the weigh in stalls. Embarrassingly, they showed two other camera crews from? a ( professional outfit) who were positioned in the central part of the mounting yard, gaining the best/clearest view of the horses. Probably weren't even racing type coverages Chalk and cheese and the TVN mounting yard coverage reeks like Camembert |
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THUNDERBIRD OLZANSKI was gonna get a whack for mentioning during his SEEEmore meeting
preview that he would interrupt his wisdom in order for us to see Americain complete an exhibition gallop. HE HASN"T BEEN SO CONCERNED ABOUT INTERRUPTING HIS WISDOM IN THE PAST TO ALLOW US TO SEE THE RUNNERS PARADING FOR THE FIRST RACE. Question; CAN YOU BET ON AN EXHIBITION GALLOP? Question; CAN YOU BET ON A RACE? Question; WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU, ADAM? But then, he covers himself with embarrassment by crossing to the Mounting yard, looking for Americain and says " I'm not sure if that is him Americain is the one that's plaited up so that is, that's him, that's Americain ahhh so that's him and the other one is Budai a former German galloper. Anyway we'll see these horses in work very shhhh... in fact I'm not sure if these are, are they? No, no, Americain is ahhh black .. so these might be the fillies. Mrs Grey and Mamas Choice... so we're going out of schedule here thought..... geeez they're a bit snall for older stayers............." A brown filly with a white blaze!!!!!!! Who needs to whack you, Thunderbird? You mortally wound yourself !!! You need to go. |
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I noticed that myself, fancy not recognising Americain, one of the most magifnicent equine specimens you will see, they were even carrying their various racing silks.
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