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By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 01 Jun 11 02:43
Neither have I TQ Cry

I noticed they were spruiking "TVN now on twitter and facebook"

Does this ensure "interaction" and therefore guarantee me some "response"

Should I cross the line...... and enter..... the evil world of facebook ?? Mischief
By:
TeenQueen
When: 01 Jun 11 02:47
I have a Facebook page but never use it ... perhaps I'll start!
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 02 Jun 11 15:07
Happywell, credit where credit is due ( a little anyway )

Geelong R3; ALL 13 runners shown in the yard

Geelong R4; ALL 9 runners shown in the yard

Geelong R5; ALL 12 runners shown in the yard

Geelong R6; 10 of the 16 runners shown in the yard Sad


Terry Bailey was concise in his assessments, which was the major reason for improvement today

as obviously that dictates the cameramans speed on moving through the runners.

No other meeting today, I know, but it really shouldn't be relevant.

Crossing a tad earlier to the yard, concise and timely assessments are a good start
.

Thanks Terry, and TVN !



( btw camera work 7/10 but I won't quibble while the signs are positive )
By:
TeenQueen
When: 02 Jun 11 21:52
How did you go on the punt at Geelong then Spoony?
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 10 Jun 11 00:55
1. Fine Feelings    *      1.93      120.00    Back         111.93
13. More Than A Monty    *      3.77      30.00     Back         -30.00

1. Alberti                        3.65      30.00            Back         79.50
10. Talcum           *      3.40    56.66        Back         -56.66

10. Revitalise                    5.90    10.00    Back                 49.01


02-Jun-11 13:10


These are the races I saw them all in the yard, TQ.

Revitalise race was only an interest bet, didn't like any of them really, Lloyds horse was only glanced but I thought a "good type" rather than a "condition" opinion.


Fine feelings and M T A Monty both looked well from memory, M T A Monty fin 4th pretty sure

Alberti and Talcum similar story. Talcum I thought looked particularly well. Led, overraced? and finished down the track. Noticed as soon as he left the gates appeared to be in a muck lather, maybe he "fell apart" on the way to, behind or in the barriers. Not looking for an excuse, just an observation.

And to answer your question, TQ.... I LOST , couple of "opinion bets" later on ...

my underprepared, lack of form knowledge etc etc SUCKS! Laugh 




TX for sending an email to TVN, it's a really poor effort (mounting yard vision) on their part imo.

It's just not given the priority, respect though their own experts verbalize it's merits EVERY DAY!!

Reckon the spring carnival on CH 7? will have all the fashion, blah blah, "celebrity" interviews,

etc, etc WILL STILL HAVE A BETTER LOOK AT THE ANIMALS.   sad sad sad
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 13 Sep 11 05:43
Well Kyneton R6 says it all Plain

We saw two of Neil Dyers' gallop a lap of the track (with interview) ffs

followed by a "close-up" replay of M Rodd riding the previous winner (1875m)

then back to reality as the horses for the next LEAVE THE YARD Shocked

a word springs to mind..................TIMING !!!

who is running the show there?  Obviously not punters. (THE TARGET MARKET)

hang your head in shame Devil
By:
gardenstar
When: 13 Sep 11 06:44
Whats happened to Adam Ozlansky ?? Have not seen him for ages ?
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 13 Sep 11 07:54
I heard Adam has gone to Las Vegas

been recruited by Cirque du Soleil

Apparently, in a tank, talking underwater with a mouthful of marbles

makes for a striking addition to the entrance foyer Mischief

wish him well, found his calling Happy
By:
jimbob03
When: 13 Sep 11 08:49
this is so true
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 13 Sep 11 15:35
sad news Sad

Allegedly, Adam has been "let go" after his debut performance in the tank.



"Unfortunately our relationship with Adam has been short-lived. Whilst very impressed with his

skills as an underwatertalkerwithmarblesinmouth, he was however, unable to deliver our

requested "overview of the performance" and it's themes within acceptable timeframes.

Acceptable parameters, clearly defined as;

Whilst guests are assembling in the anticipation lobby prior to the auditorium being opened.


In fact, Adam was only just completing his regale after all 1853 guests (including 62 special

needs/ mobility assistance) had been seated, lights dimmed and the "opening score" commenced.

We wish him well in his future endeavours."     


Pepe Le Pew
Cirque du Soleil Operations Manager
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 14 Sep 11 15:24
To be fair, I should point out that Adam is not by any means the only one who seems to gain

pleasure from the sound of his own voice.

Shane Templeton seems closest to understanding a very simple reality

whether there are six runners or sixteen, they are only in the yard for about 5 minutes.


DO THE MATHS AS THEY ENTER THE YARD!!


It's roooooolly bloody simple Plain
By:
Village Kid
When: 14 Sep 11 16:01
SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN MANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

reckon you'd be one of the only ones here who'd know what my avatar is

reckon you eat em for breeky
By:
Scott135
When: 15 Sep 11 02:51
The most useless person on TVN with parade yard comments is Sam Hyland.
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 15 Sep 11 18:54
VK, avatars are a sore point for this little black duck Sad

I've huffed and I've puffed and I've pressed alllllll the buttons to no avail, Sad

also threatened with dismembermentShocked from the forum.

Therefore, to protect my mood I have placed a vertical line of gaffer tape, exactly 16mm

wide on my monitor. Oblivious is bliss Mischief

That being the case, if I eat them for brekky, your avatar is Benson and Hedges???



Scott

I don't feel the need to criticize their opinions on "appearance" or their assessment of form.

I do feel the need to criticize the hypocrisy (evidenced above) that exists between their verbal

references to the significance of the "mounting yard appearance" and the distinct lack of

"vision priority" of them in the mounting yard that they serve up to their viewers.

A UNIQUE PART OF THEIR COVERAGE , a true point of difference, sabotaged and ignored in so

many ways. Cry
By:
Scott135
When: 16 Sep 11 01:18
I don't see the point of Sam Hyland week in and week out picking 100/1 shots just coz they look nice - and keep running down the track last.
If there is a prize for the best turned out horse, like they do in Hong Kong, fair enough. But there isn't!!!
You have to mix in form with appearance...not just pick them solely on looks coz they look pretty...as he does.
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 17 Sep 11 02:06
David Gately? in charge at Geelong yesterday.

Only saw 4? races yesterday, mostly small fields.... but........

OUTSTANDING IMPROVEMENT FROM THE NORM !!!!

Take a fukken bow, buster ...............

Sound of applause....... Happy




Ask not what your viewers can do for you.....

Ask what you can do........ for your viewers
Silly
By:
TeenQueen
When: 17 Sep 11 06:59
I've got an idea Spoony ...

Next time TVN leave the important mounting yard preview until they're behind the barriers on the other side of the track at Rosehill like they've just done with Race 6 ...

... get your binoculars out ...

... I'm sure it wouldn't look too silly sitting in your lounge room watching the telly with binoculars ...
By:
Monday mike
When: 17 Sep 11 09:01
Being a big fan of TVN, thought coverage of Rosehill was very ordinary for a big meeting.  Ritchie came across as a TV advertising salesman with all the early favs. winning, he was too too loud and pumped, we want winners we're not here to buy racehorses, was a bit like that iritateing man who sells syndicates for racehorses.  The big mans not right of late, no doubt he will bounce back and pretty high too.   More importantly the lovely caroline Searcy ( nothin like a good looin woman with brains.)  The people who organised her outfit were pretty much lacking flair for this lovely lady, looked like a Queen Victoria of the late 1800s with those colours.   Personally I just love her in red or blue myself.   
Still overall there miles ahead of the scummy Sky racing team with there Casino type coverage.
By:
doubleagent
When: 17 Sep 11 09:14
Fvckin hell Spoon! What is all this sh!t? 'TVN THE ULTIMATE HYPOCRISY' thunders the title of this thread.Like a stern narrator on the History channel booming 'the ULTIMATE HYPOCRISY'. And all it is is just some drivel about not seeing the horses in the mounting yard.If you want to inspect the horses go to the track.You want it all-lay back in your recliner,mouse in one hand computer in the other,can't be arsed to go to the track and put some business towards a struggling race industry and then you whinge about not seeing the horses.Next you'll be wanting someone to come over and sell you a hot dog,or put a lump of manure in your hall to step in to give you that authentic touch.

Oh,and by the way,PUT SOME PANTS ON!!
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 17 Sep 11 10:51
TQ, my "lounge room" doesn't have a window and no heavy instruments(binoculars) allowed Mischief

Mike, are you Peter Jago?

Double Do Wah.... well, well, well,.............. like that is it?

I'll be gettin back to you later on this outburst. Devil

In the mean-time do something constructive and please describe. ( on the thread at the top)

your experience at the "trading seminars" during your recent trip to London , seems to be a ticket

to unimaginable riches Cool
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 18 Sep 11 04:02
R1 at The Rat

Shane shows again.... it can be done.

Shane Love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd0VBm8gU5o&NR=1
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 18 Sep 11 04:23
2 from 2

Shane  Love gets a double .........niiiiiiiiiice Happy
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 18 Sep 11 05:26
Nust confess the races don't have my full attention today but I think

Shane Love fell at the third Sad

back on track for the fourth Happy
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 20 Sep 11 04:43
No races before, so no excuses,

Sale today, Race 1

8 starters !! saw 5 of them in the yard Shocked

then has the cheek, during the post race interview, to mention " paraded terrifically" Cry

HYPOCRITE Devil

Sale Race 2

Another without any prior races cramping it for time.......no excuses

actually had to wait for most of them to enter the yard..

12 starters, the cameraman was even moving on to the next one (subtle prompt [;)])as they got down toward the bottom.

The bottom two , even money and second favorites, didn't quite get to them Mischief


HE NEEDS TO GO Devil

Slow track? and him to top it off... I probably won't bother the scorers today.
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 20 Sep 11 18:46
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Jason Richardson.....PLEASE LIFT YOUR GAME IN REGARD TO THE MOUNTING YARD it's called time management [;)]


The view of runners in the mounting yard continues to vary from (individual horses) good ......to looking at a barcode

through a flyscreen to the "winking rsehole view" trotting off to the barriers. TVN...LIFT!!!



On another note, an recent observation I found interesting....

On Sunday at Ballarat I saw a horse in the yard that I recognised as one I'd had something on (a place) when first up.
(ran 4th)

Only backed it on the way it presented in the yard.

BEFORE THE RACE
By: THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
Date Joined: 14 May 09 Add contact | Send message
When: 01 Sep 11 05:17 
gee nice horse Bart's... no knackers, no bone chips.......hmmm


AFTER THE RACE

By: THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 01 Sep 11 05:25

....No $ confidence either, raced v fresh today could be ok.


Was personally surprised by it's appearance, thinking I would be further impressed by "improvement" from it's first up run.

However, to my amateur eye it still looked "well" but from memory was carrying a little more condition than when

first up.  Only just now I have looked back at the "cards" on here to see it was first up for a year when resuming and three

weeks later his second-up run on Sunday. Did gain favours from the ride and track but still......... won by panels.

Cosmonaut ...... JB Cummings. A privilege to watch the master at work.
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 25 Sep 11 13:47
Today,at Bairnsdale

(I only saw 4? races)but........

TERRY BAILEY..............take a bow Love

He is a serious "parade watcher" and I choose to believe he understands the "obligation"

to give the viewers the same opportunity/advantage that he has.

ALL YOU OTHER MUPPETTS

TAKE A LEAF !!!
By:
Scott135
When: 26 Sep 11 06:04
I chucked one of the biggest parties when they flogged that idiot off the Melbourne.
Wouldn't know shitt from clayy[smiley:crazy]
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 26 Sep 11 06:39
Always pleasant, it must be fun, being you, Sourpuss.

I care not for the opinions offered, only the opportunity (via yard vision) to form my own.

Have a nice day Happy
By:
Scott135
When: 26 Sep 11 07:31
The Golden Slipper call was a classic...

"And here's the winner, Crowned Gloryyyyy" Laugh[smiley:crazy]
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 04 Oct 11 03:59
ADAM'S BACK!! Cry FFS

can't even count now, starts at number 8 works down to the bottom then says " let's catch up with the ones we missed!!!"

1,2,4,5,7 shown on their way to the barriers Devil

Previous race at Terang they show a replay during the mounting yard run through FFS

Also wondering, is the camera bolted to the ground??? Cry

RUDE
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 05 Oct 11 06:51
SHANE, SHANE, SHANE, TO THE NAUGHTY CHAIR FOR YOU!!

10 horse field

Said at the start of the mounting yard preview..." gee the 12 is the pick of the yard"

then ambled through his assessments of the first eight horses....

the next one as it left the yard then finally...... a head on view of the FAV (eventual winner), no-12. Cry

Any danger of the viewers seeing it for themselves? ffs

Hypocrisy

LIFT!
By:
Lets Elope
When: 05 Oct 11 07:52
Yes I saw that one, having done mounting yard reports on air on numerous occasions myself its imperative that you give your rundown succinctly and move on to each horse until they have had the opportunity to all be viewed, then if necessary you can expand upon your summary of the runners as they go to the barriers.
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 05 Oct 11 17:15
Yes LE, it's pretty darn simple. Eight horse field in Sydney, only managed six IN the yard Devil

Richie interviewing a trainer (full screen) for two minutes, ffs.

I like Richie but the timing is awful ... RICHIE, TO THE NAUGHTY, Oh, umm... TO THE NAUGHTY BENCH SEAT FOR YOU!!

LE, please send your resume to TVN, I shall write you a sterling reference   Happy
By:
Lets Elope
When: 06 Oct 11 14:30
Thanks haven't done it for a few years now but I totally agree nothing more annoying than not getting to see the whole field in the moutning yard, can't for channel 7's craap coverage of the Melbourne cup carnival where you get to see every 2nd or 3rd horse in the main races let alone the minor events.
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 07 Nov 11 02:37
Had to laugh at Ritchie and co blustering about "vision rights" at the wash-up after the carnival.

Highlighting the loss of mounting yard vision as one of the major issues Laugh

Thunderbird Olzanski just showed us again, at Mornington, cant see all 10 runners in

the yard ffs.

If you speak of it with reverence........ revere it!!

or you are


A HYPOCRITE Devil
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 08 Nov 11 02:08
Jason Richardson..... such a huge "personality" big things ahead for him............. he thinks.

Has his own show now, he's on the way !!!

His pre-meeting run through just couldn't be interrupted while the runners for the first circled the yard.

SEVEN runners in the race...........number seen IN the yard???????????

THREE ( just !!! )

Good luck with your career Jason, seriously........ but

don't ever believe your assessments are more important than the mounting yard vision 

SELF- INDULGENCE

RUDE
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 08 Nov 11 02:40
Race 2

SIX horse field, we saw .....................FOUR !!!!!!!!!

New lows Cry

ffs
By:
laythefave
When: 08 Nov 11 06:15
Agree totally, spoony. Olzanski can't get through a field no matter how much time he has, because he cr@ps on and on ad nauseum about each horse  for so long.

Richardson has, imo anyway, the most irritating grating voice of any of the TVN presenters.

Generally, however, I would rather a sh!touse TVN than a deluxe Sky any dayGrin
By:
Joel
When: 08 Nov 11 06:19
Richo is a Stawell Gift winner, he can do what he wants imo
By:
THERE....IS....NO....SPOOOOON
When: 09 Nov 11 11:28
Not sure where to put this ........ it's mounting yard related....so ...... I'll put it here Plain

I wasn't logged in at the time and not too fussed about having a bet when my best bud came around and

as we were discussing his latest plan of attack on some obscure sub-branch of world stock markets Sad

( I try , I really do) I noticed, over his shoulder, on TVN (muted) a lovely type strolling around the yard

as casual as BC, swishing his tail. Taking the opportunity to sidetrack the conversation, I said "look at him gettin round

the mounting yard, lovely type" graphics showed on TVN NO STARTS. I rewound and watched it again with him and then

resumed our gripping, one-sided, conversation.

Shortly after, we were in front of the TV they were showing the replay, straight after the race and .... you know it...

it won. Not overly fussed about the result but personally...... very impressed.

Both trainer and jockey seemed unexcited/ conservative about the future when asked and trainer said didn't have great

expectations on that race-day either. SALE R2 on Friday 4th November

I don't do times or anything else to "rate" him, but...............

............... I like him alot............. JUNGLE RANGER Cool
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