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By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 09 Feb 11 10:06
I know what I posted wombleoz.  Laugh

Your a self confessed socialist.  And thats fine - and North Korea is a socialist society.

You have suggested comparing the "scary" Right with the Left.  I simply say, if you want to take a good look at the Left (not so scary according to you)....look no further than North Korea.
By:
wombleoz
When: 09 Feb 11 10:07
LOL enjoy the beers Jez, you've obviously had a few

the extremes on either side are always a worry
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 09 Feb 11 10:09
Ouch, we've hit a nerve.

Again.

YOU have suggested comparing the "scary" Right with the Left.  I simply say, if you want to take a good look at the Left (not so scary according to you)....look no further than North Korea.
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 09 Feb 11 10:11
So your not a Socialist anymore wombleoz?

You've given up reading the spoils of the Green Left Weekly?

Proud supporters of the Socialist Alliance?
By:
wombleoz
When: 09 Feb 11 21:07
I would hold America up as an example of the what happens when the right gets too much control - massive debt, HUGE divides between the rich and poor, dog eat dog - but obviously I'd rather live there then in the dictatorship that is North Korea

I am, to a degree, a socialist Jez although I am an economic realist as well - there is a balance.  So I am not an extreme left winger, just like you aren't an an extreme right winger
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 10 Feb 11 08:20
Come on wombleoz.

Your telling me the GFC was brewed up wholly by the Republicans?  Laugh

I've said before I disagree with a great deal of the Republicans - I put there right wing position in a different bag to the Liberal Party of Australia.

The Republicans are TRUE conservatives, to the letter.  We support Medicare, for example.  [;)]
The Republicans detest it.



The Liberals here, are not - we are a genuine centre-right party formed by Sir Robert Menzies on the values of families, individual freedom, aspirationalism, small business, less red tape/less tax and respecting/defending the institutions and values that have stood the test of time.

Thats obviously just a small sample of Australian Liberalism.  But of course there are moderates even Green-leaning Liberal people.  I'm a big believer in a "broad church" within the party - as John Howard used to say.
By:
wombleoz
When: 10 Feb 11 09:17
John Howard led the highest taxing government in Australia's history
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 10 Feb 11 09:22
Of my entire post, thats your observation.

Laugh

However, I will say the implementation of the GST, I disagreed with - as I've stated before.

But, lets look at the present, not the past.

What has Labor repealed, in terms of taxes?  Laugh

And whats planned for this year?

Flood Tax, Mining Tax and a Carbon Tax.

MmmmmmmDevil[smiley:crazy][:p]
By:
wombleoz
When: 10 Feb 11 09:31
i thought talking about north korea and the us was pretty irrelevant

they delivered the promised tax cuts and had henry do his work, i'm hoping, with some pushing from the independents, we see some genuine tax reforms in the next year or two

flood tax is only for 12 months - although should become permanent

mining tax makes sense - did you see rio tintos profit figure today???

carbon tax - bring it on Cool
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 10 Feb 11 09:36
You remind me of that bloke who was spruiking (during a media conference) the solidarity of the Hussein Regime in Iraq, as US tanks rolled in behind.

LaughLaughLaughLaugh

Pathetic.
By:
wombleoz
When: 10 Feb 11 09:42
the war we should never been involved in
By:
wombleoz
When: 11 Feb 11 04:55
was nice to see the lovely KK at the press club today, will be sad to see her lose the election CryCryCry
By:
Joel
When: 11 Feb 11 05:28
Don't think you'll need to worry womble
By:
wombleoz
When: 11 Feb 11 05:50
i hope you're right Joel [:)]
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 11 Feb 11 07:30
Your all for more corruption, scandals, political dog acts (power assets fire-sale) and another rewind of 20 years for NSW aren't you wombleoz?

Shame on you and others who support the re-election of this rotting, pathetic excuse for a government - nothing to suggest a vote for Labor, just a weak chant of "the right will takeover NSW".  Laugh

Fair dinkum pathetic.  I repeat, pathetic.
By:
Joel
When: 11 Feb 11 08:41
Looking from afar, I feel the NSW government have done a stellar job. What have they done wrong?
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 11 Feb 11 08:50
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

From afar?

Where the FKN hell do you live Joel?

You'd have to be a fair distance for this corrupt mob to look good.
By:
Joel
When: 11 Feb 11 08:52
I'm in Melbourne, home to the worst government in the country.
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 11 Feb 11 09:15


Your in safe hands my friend.

Cool
By:
wombleoz
When: 11 Feb 11 23:44
probably not the worst YET Joel but it won't take long CryCryCry
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 12 Feb 11 00:07
Keep talking em down wombleoz, talking em down.

LOL

I doubt Baillieu will meet you standards.....

No corruption, scandals or political dogs act to be found within the Baillieu government - thats a Green/Labor speciality.
By:
wombleoz
When: 12 Feb 11 01:56
give him a couple of months Laugh
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 12 Feb 11 02:34


Change is coming to NSW.  Cool
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 12 Feb 11 02:35
Surprised your scared of Ted, wombleoz.

His a moderate, small l-Liberal.
By:
wombleoz
When: 13 Feb 11 00:21
He leads the Liberals though Jez, that's why I'm worried

Big test will come for him next week with the Myki decision - will be a disgrace if he scraps it after all the money that has been spent

Notice what all these pictures you post have in common Jez, white anglo saxon males probably all with boarding school backgrounds - i.e. the Liberal Party in a nutshell - where is the DIVERSITY!!!
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 13 Feb 11 00:42
Your pathetic wombleoz.  You lose credibility and respect with these sort of posts.

You show yourself for what you really are - I start to wonder why I even have these discussions with you. 

I mean I can handle the hypocracy you bleet about, in relation to Myki.
Alright for Labor, not alright for the Liberals.  It's cheap and typical of you.

But I'm not going to entertain your farcical suggestion that the men and women that encompass the Liberal Party are all of "boarding school backgrounds" - without diversity. 

Would have to be the most obnoxious, rude and uneducated comment I've read on this place for some time.

Your knowledge of politics and specifically the ACTUAL backgrounds of the men and women of the Liberal Party is clearly lacking greatly - you rather make baseless, inaccurate and actually, offensive asumptions.

If I'm going to have a crack at Labor, its generally a political argument and if I'm going to stoop to make a personal comment - I at least do my homework and base it on FACT.

This is clearly more ideological tripe you've sourced from The Greens.

If its not boarding school trash talk - its an attack on the presence of "white anglo saxon males".  So the Greens screen members and potential candidates to level out the races, do they?  FFS!

I'd say the newly elected Aboriginal Liberal member for one of the Western Australian electorates would be pretty offended by your baseless insinuations about a lack of diversity.  Read his story, have you?  Of course you fkn haven't. 

Suppose if your leaders not Gay, you don't have Left wing extremists breeding amongst you, no Leftie Elitists, or former Communists in your party - your not diverse enough.

Do me favour.  Actually look up the backgrounds of Tony Abbott, Ted Baillieu, Barry O'Farrell or Warren Truss - of course you won't - you'd prefer to perpetuate this fanciful ideological drivel.

Wake up clown.
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 13 Feb 11 01:09
Didn't realise a party that goes so hard on the count of equality could be so extraordinarily judgmental and smug. 

True colours.
By:
wombleoz
When: 13 Feb 11 02:45
Myki has been a massive waste of money Jez BUT we're pot committed, i.e. too far in to can it now

I should've probably said private school instead of boarding school but same difference really. Other parties, especially the Greens, attract a wider variety of members who are drawn together because of what they believe in not because of which suburb they were born in or what school they went to - and naturally, drawing from that more diverse base, they have a bigger more reflective range of leaders
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 13 Feb 11 03:13
Sure wombleoz.

You've had the same gay leader for how long now?

Such diversity.  Wow.

Think long and hard about that last paragraph wombleoz and maybe look at the bio's of Liberals across Australia - you clearly know nothing of what you speak - your casting judgement based on a pathetic ideological assumptions.

Your the sort of small mind who has festered on these ideological thoughts for years and years - but never bothered to do some reading and learn for themselves what the truth or read about the actual diversity that is present within the Liberal Party.

You can't be told though.  No No. 

Based on your comments here today, YOU are an elitist.
Nobody else.  You.

A left wing socialist-leaning elitist by the sounds of things.

Thank god they're in short supply.

Your comments are grubby, inaccurate and again, uneducated drivel.
On values and principles I'd give Ted Baillieu the tick over you any day with that attitude.  And is not because of his families wealth,    mate.

I grew up in a working class suburb, my beliefs and values in the Liberal Party have nothing to do with wealth, my childhood, my school (my childrens school) or which suburb I was born in.

It's the likes of you in The Greens that is ensuring Labor and the Liberals work together to ensure your minority views aren't pushed apon the majority.
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 13 Feb 11 03:15
Squash aspiration.
Re-ignite the class wars.
Us vs Them.

Oh thank god your in a minority.
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 13 Feb 11 03:31
Keneally 'giving up': NSW opposition

February 13, 2011 - 11:19AM
AAP


NSW Premier Kristina Keneally has indicated a deal is being done to make Transport Minister John Robertson the next Labor leader, the opposition says.

In an interview with Sky on Sunday, Ms Keneally sidestepped questions about whether she would retain the leadership after the March 26 election.

Ms Keneally also praised Mr Robertson during the interview - something the opposition says is a sure sign of the premier's intentions.

"The failure by Kristina Keneally to commit to standing for the Labor leadership after the election is a tacit admission that John Robertson will have a clear run at the leadership if Labor wins or loses the election," Liberal Party campaign spokeswoman Gladys Berejiklian said in a statement.

"Premier Keneally's strong praise of John Robertson in his attempt to move to the lower house seat of Blacktown looks very much like she is already giving up and handing over the leadership."
By:
wombleoz
When: 13 Feb 11 03:39
Bob Brown, Adam Brandt, Nick McKim, Meredith Hunter

Not a bad range of backgrounds and sexes there

Why would I want to read bios of Liberals Jez, other than the know your enemy thing, I would (as a Liberal voting mate of mine says) rather dust my stamp collection

There's nothing wrong with aspiration, everyone - no matter their background, should aspire to improve their lot in life, if that's what they want

The class wars have never and will never die

Us vs them will always be there as well

It's always easier to say everything is ok if you have more

p.s. you shouldn't take what i say personally, it's not about you!!!
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 13 Feb 11 04:09
I don't take it personally, but I'm making a point.

How can you cast judgment on people you know nothing about.

ie. Liberal members of Parliament

And your not willing to correct yourself by learning the facts, for exmaple reading biographies.

I'm assuming you've listened to the dirty Labor campaign against Baillieu and have run with it.

Educate yourself a little better before making these flippant remarks.
By:
wombleoz
When: 13 Feb 11 04:44
Baillieu went to school with Brumby so they are both private school boys, he is white and a male - 3 outta 4 covered without the need to do any additional research
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 15 Feb 11 07:04
Looks like the Greens NSW have rejected any preference deal with a "toxic" Labor Party in NSW. 

Looks like your on your own wombleoz (not surprising).
Not even your own party can bring themselves to back Labor.

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 15 Feb 11 07:08
Sounds like the Greens would prefer a Coalition controlled upper house than Labor doing dirty deals with the Christian Democrats or the Shooters Party, as they did this term.

Thats right.  Labor doing deals with the CHRISTIAN democrats and the SHOOTERS party.  Shocked Well I never......Laugh

What excuses you got in the bag for those dirty deals wombleoz?

I congratulate the Greens for taking a stand against a government that is certainly "toxic", out of touch and has left the great state of NSW in disarray.
By:
wombleoz
When: 15 Feb 11 10:57
take what u will out of it Jez, this election will be like no other
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 16 Feb 11 08:10
The Greens say NSW Labor are "toxic".

The Greens would prefer a Coalition majority in both houses than Labor.  Wowsers.

Thats a big statement.

And Labor, wheeling and dealing with those that you SUGGEST the Coalition WOULD deal with in your pathetic scare campaign - the SHOOTERS Party and CHRISTIAN Democrats.  Laugh
By:
wombleoz
When: 16 Feb 11 10:00
i wish the election would hurry up and get here, this is getting painful
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 16 Feb 11 22:26
Finally realising the inevitable wombleoz.

This will be an election of unseen proportions.

Antony Green crunched the numbers yesterday and he could only find 13 seats for NSW Labor in the lower house.

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

Bring on 26 March.  BRING IT ON.  Cool
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