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Rubbish,
I have been active on the Internet for nearly 20 years now. There are plenty who know who I am, who would not hesitate to go to town on me, if I put a foot wrong. |
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there's your first lie then,
active on the Internet for nearly 20 years now i've had enough good luck to your quest then |
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former employee??? disgruntled investor???
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Logroller
I've been on a Harness Racing Forum for 16 years. So nearly 20 years is not improbable. |
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internet in australia in 1992.....i dont think so
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>>> internet in australia in 1992.....i dont think so
I was using the Net thru Netspace in Melbouurne in 92 $40 per month for 40 hours per month if I remember rightly... |
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If log says there was no internet in 92 then there was no internet in 92.
For log knows all. He told us that there was no liquidity in the exchanges in Macao, Phill, Sing etc. hahahahahahaha flog |
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wombleoz
07 Jul 12 04:00 Joined: 15 Feb 03 | Topic/replies: 7,895 | Blogger: wombleoz's blog jfc not a fan at all - the guys have made a motza from the game, sure they get a hand up at others expense but good luck to them i say - take away the billions they turnover and we'd all be worse off imo ---------- When Zeljko cuts a deal for double-digit kickbacks, that in turn is an extra tax on all punters not on that deal. He can (and does) crush pools so there is no value left for anyone else, but value for him - after kickbacks. The latest articles shows he made a POT of only 2.5% on Billions. Take away the kickbacks and that might be a 7% Loss. So anyone good enough to match his 300 genius employees, but without kickbacks, should also expect to lose that 7%. Yet you're wishing him good luck! |
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google seems to ignore the AFR, making Zeljko exposes there hard to find.
But here's another ripper! http://www.afr.com/p/national/no_humbling_great_gambler_1RahGi92iAkDFfUmE87CeO Those of you imitating Brown's and Wilkie's bizarre intercessions on behalf of this lot, should try reading a few of these links, to save yourself considerable embarrassment. |
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Brown should stick to saving a rainforest somewhere. You would think after so many years in politics he would know that Swan can't interfere in taxation administration.
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jfc what do you know about ZR and the boys being able to get on 5 to10 secs after the jump?
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Or for having access to actual "live" odds as opposed to the 30 - 45 second delayed "live" odds like the rest of us?
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Below are Final Supertab Trends for Cranbourne 4.
Note the 63 in Line 3. That says that only 63% of the actual investments are displayed. 37% of the investments are invisible, and a sizeable amount of that is Zeljko's. From whatever International satellite pool he is now betting from. There is tremendous opportunity for manipulation and misinformation to occur in such a scenario. Anyone relying on this so called information, is begging to be taken to the cleaners. "TRIFECTA TRENDS", "CRANBORN-R",4,"*", 67086.25,36247.77,31184.85,0.00,0.00,0.00,"NIL","NIL","NIL",63,"*", 23.80,6.30,37.00,24.90,17.90,"*", 14.60,3.10,22.40,11.90,10.30,"*", 14.60,3.20,13.70,6.90,7.20,"*", 8.70,2.10,8.30,5.10,6.10,"*", 80.50,14.50,64.10,29.90,19.90,"*", 15.10,3.70,17.20,8.10,8.10,"*", 19.50,3.10,17.00,9.10,8.50,"*", 25.10,4.60,20.50,10.80,9.30,"*", 1.70,1.20,1.40,4.90,8.20,"*", 67.20,13.30,73.90,33.30,22.00,"*", 22.20,4.60,25.20,10.60,10.00,"*", "---","---","---","---","---","*", 21.70,4.60,24.20,13.80,11.30,"*", 56.00,10.00,67.40,33.90,22.30,"*", "---","---","---","---","---","*", "---","---","---","---","---","*", "---","---","---","---","---","*", |
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What about my ? jcf
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Sorry, I just don't know anything about that 10 seconds past jump rumour.
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The number of times a leader in the dogs shortens on Supertab (never noticed on other two totes) is remarkable. But surely there are checks & balances in place to ensure this doesnt occur!
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i meant to say shortens in last update after race
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Rumour?
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my understanding was that it took 30 seconds for the pool to update from the jump. yet i've seen horses shorten after a 1200m race.
try getting an honest answer from tabcorp. good luck. |
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EarlyCrow,
Your short sentence posts are inscrutable enough, but your one word efforts really take the cake. How is anyone able to know what you are on about? Anyone bothering to look can see a delay after start when final pools get released. Tabcorp et al will claim this is for some technical reason. Are you saying there are other factors involved? If so, why not let us all in? In terms that won't get either of us in trouble. |
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Reading your post tells me you understood every thing i said,technical issue lol, the more you turn over the bigger the technical issue turns in your favour
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FFS
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jfc, you provide a link to journos that are speculating based on the premise that the "accused" will not respond, then you make some vague reference that maybe there is a google conspiracy which makes it hard to look up.
You seem to want to make this thread your way to prompt response to your rhetoric. That article you linked on 10 Jul 12 01:41 is mostly wild speculation by the writers at afr, but you place it here as though it is fact and we should all buy into your conspiracy theory. That article has several statements in it which are inaccurate and misleading. |
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zeljko ranogajec afr
Here (from where I sit) are some facts. Google news for the top line phrase to find only one old item. Yet click WEB, and eventually on Page 2, today's staggering AFR news article might be spotted: http://www.afr.com/p/national/documents_stolen_in_punters_club_POofsHL7Tn6rZY0k6sChQI Weird! ... Shiraz, if you can't find anything better to bitch about, then I'll continue playing you like a cheap fiddle. |
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he's winning on the punt as well Uhhh, maybe only 2-3% but he is winning
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We've known that for some time IMO
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Walshy just interviewed on ABC's Lateline. He claimed he had no staff early in the interview
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http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3551796.htm
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terrific link jfc cheers
... out on a limb i guess but i support walsh's contention ... in that restrospectivity is unjust if he is saying they have had many discussions and investigations by the tax office ... and provided all information at the time .. and the tax office said back then they would not classify them as a business ... then surely they can only be taxed from the date ONWARDS that the tax office suggest they are a business all this is void if full disclosure was not made available to the tax offic office originally of course ... and that, i assume, is the basis of the court case prosecution & defence as an historical aside ... i am "pretty sure" (?) that the 70's "bottom of the harbour" tax ruling ... did the same thing in regard to retrospectivity ... and when challenged in court that retrospectivity was deemed not taxable i would imagine their defence will investigate the "bottom of the harbour" ruling in a hope of similar outcomes |
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do you mean better off?
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh............
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http://blogs.abc.net.au/tasmania/2012/07/david-walsh-v-the-australian-taxation-office.html
An audio analysing the ATO implications. ---- I believe the kickbacks were so huge that for certain segments it appears to be a risk free operation, hence not gambling. Walsh is trying to argue they were taking risks, but I suspect they were only risking their risk-free winnings. |
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cheers jfc .. an interesting 14 mins for sure
seems to me walsh is resigned to his gambling being acredited as a business ... just from what date now ... appears to be the conflict ? |
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http://afr.com/p/national/how_ex_wives_club_nailed_david_walsh_FfWQPtD3QkKTDqBH53eA0K
New (again hard to find) AFR article. Title sounds like it's about adultery. |
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hell hath no fury ...
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I don't want to spam this site with my vents elsewhere.
So I'll try to confine myself here to links to key developments. But I don't feel this saga is over by a long shot. This saga that has cost you lot heaps over the last 30 years. |
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well that last link is a beauty...........the scorn of a women back in 2005 may bring the empire down.
cant beleive they didnt make the hubby settle and buy silence |
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It is an amazing situation.
Most of us could see out our days with $10 million. So what's the point in pushing for more? But these genii see different. And so can well end up broke and playing Manila with Bernie Madoff. |
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Joined: 13 Jul 12 | Topic/replies: 469 | Blogger: Uhhh's blog
So Zeljko has 300 employes which likely 1/3 at least are form analysts including the best so called computer programers around but if you take out rebates he is showing a loss overall on the punt? Either this is total Gelati ...and if not who are these analysts working form him? I have no idea which one to believe 1...I he loses on the punt without rebates which would be disgraceful considering he has 300 employed or 2...He really is wining a lot more? Rate reply: | report block user He pays PC to betfair so rebates not neede to turn profit |
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I know two guys, one from Sydney, the other from Newcastle, that did form analysis on Harness Racing meets.
They did it from home, with a DVD arriving in the mail. Neither guy would tell me who they worked for, but I assumed it was Z. Interestingly, the Sydney guy did a trot meeting in SA, usually a Friday night like Port Pirie, the other was a meeting in the USA, such as Balmoral or The Meadows. |