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What about divulging your own 11 secret herbs and spices?
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represents 60% + turnover on aust horses on here
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CastIron,
JFC on another subject that interests you. Did you know that Z has pulled the plug on a rebate deal, he had with two racing controlling bodies in one state. Happened about the same time as his deal with Tote Tasmania ended ? If true, did not know that. I do know that, contrary to McIlwain's AFR claims, there are a number of kickback avenues into TattsBet. At first glance, I wonder whether the ATO views excessive kickbacks as tantamount to proof that the recreational defence is legless. |
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I was hoping you did know, and knew the reason why.
Also whether this was Australia wide. I guessed the tax issue, similar to your thoughts. |
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kickbacks look straight income to me particularly when on a decent scale
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If Z is withdrawing from rebate deals it is probably to get the TABs/racing bodies to come pleading for him to come back at the old big Tassie tote rebate levels in 12 months time after turnover drops
A few years back some American tracks stopped allowing rebate players to bet. The rebate players stopped betting these tracks knowing if they continued to play them with no rebate it was an admission they did not need the rebates in the first place. 12 months later these American tracks caved in and allowed the rebates again after turnover dropped It is the smart play for a rebate player to stop playing once the rebates stop or are reduced. It would also be the smart play for the TABs/racing bodies/tracks to not pay the rebates again and just cop the one off drop in turnover on the chin knowing the turnover was phantom turnover to begin with due to the rebates |
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ZR may not be the greatest person who ever walked this earth, but he is not as evil as jfc seems to think. I don't want to get into too much detail, but ZR has made many sizeable charitable donations in Australia. MONA has quickly become a world renowned gallery and it is free for Tasmanians to visit, no wonder they are proud of it.
As Halyer pointed out, if an agency is prepared to offer rebates in return for big turnover, then how can you blame someone for accepting them? |
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Connected in anyway Shiraz?
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You certainly have been busy on here Juggler. Yes, I know him and have some dealings fairly regularly.
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Tipping you are a country man of his then imo. Yes been busy lol but typically didn't take long for the politics thread to rise to the top again
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http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/zeljko-loch-ness-monster-ranogajec-moves-overseas-taking-his-estimated-1-billion-a-year-betting-away-from-australian-tabs/story-e6freoof-1226353336228
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cheers jfc ... interesting ... do we know or assume that he was also rebated from the vlandy's nsw pools
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Zeljko gets bigger (undisclosed) kickbacks than anyone from Tabcorp NSW.
Who have now a convenient Isel of Man hub cohabitating with our protagonist. |
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and again thx jfc ... interesting stuff
hopefully the money paidd to rnsw from the nsw pools is hard-coded from revenue IN ... and not assessed after post bottom-line profits ... but the 'profits' lost by tbnsw ... thru rebates ... may well have been 'subsidised' by rnsw in the 'pre-arranged' kickback in the form of the 'turnover rebate' issue that ewas mentioned at some point |
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jfc
SA was the state, I was alluding to, in my post of 28/2. |
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http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/superracing/m-hit-as-biggest-punter-moves-on/story-fn67mcwv-1226353417215
same story but this link should work - if he wants a "hobby" maybe he should take up stamp collecting |
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http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sas-billion-dollar-punters-revealed/story-e6frea6u-1226360662136
Conspiracy theorists might care to ponder the copious results of this Google: Ray Gatt Shiraz |
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Fascinating articles jfc.
Thanks. Regards, Niccolo |
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Further developments with Zeljko's sidekick David Walsh now confirmed as stoushing with the ATO.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/mona-founder-in-tax-office-sights-20120606-1zwqx.html Maybe Shiraz could upbraid Kate for failing to laud Walsh as a philanthropist. |
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http://afr.com/p/national/ato_targets_punters_club_p2kW1NQlZaaKJmkW0XK8MK
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http://www.news.com.au/national/secret-club-wealthy-gamblers-is-going-to-war/story-fndo4bst-1226419498897
Names getting named. |
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getting more interesting by the minute jfc .. cheers for the updates
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Mona is apparently very good for those arty types amongst us
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"Mona is apparently very good for those arty types amongst us"
MONA has been reviewed almost exclusively by desperates who have enjoyed an all expenses paid trip. Has anyone seen anything resembling a genuine review? If I wanted to see a wall of vaginas, I'd simply head off to Darlinghurst. Might cost me $20, but still saves me an airfare. |
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At least he built something for the wider community with his money. Free for all to visit and decide. If he has used his back taxes in building this then good on him. imo. Possibly better than it going into consolidated revenue.lol
What has Reinhert built? What has Palmer built? apart from their own wealth? |
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Walsh is clearly delusional.
He has built something that did not need to be built. It is closer to pornography than art. Through the amply-documented VITAB fraud, Walsh and his mates, deprived paltry Canberra social services of $6 million. His efforts for Tote Tasmania would be around $100 million wiped from Tasmania's sick economy. And these are just the ones on public record. |
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my review was from a work colleague who paid their own way
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Is he an expert?
Would he admit it, if he was merely sucked in by the hype? I know nothing about art, but heaps about Walsh. He's not what he makes himself out to be, and for so many to be sucked in by their vested interests, means that for me, you can stick such art up your cloaca! |
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Fair enough JFC, not across all the detail of the should haves etc.
Thought they just had a beef with his back taxes.  |
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gee jfc u really have an axe to grind against this mob, come clean with us all on the forum what is your beef with this mob, maybe a sad x worker, u really do have some history here with them ??? maybe just jealousy, maybe lost your girl friend to one of them or maybe u were a jilted boyfriend of one of them
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jfc not a fan at all - the guys have made a motza from the game, sure they get a hand up at others expense but good luck to them i say - take away the billions they turnover and we'd all be worse off imo
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Maybe Walsh rejected my advances,and I am a jfc scorned.
Alternatively, maybe I am the sole individual prepared to risk payback by outing a mob well documented in its prior fraudulent activities. Once more, for the censors, this is all in Hansard, and the Fossett Report. |
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i know the history so spare me............i agree they should pay their due tax's, but i am sure no one from that group has ever been charged or convicted of an offence for their practises
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Furthermore Logroller,
whatever brushes I may have had with this mob is of no relevance to this debate. What is relevant is whether I am telling the truth. Now, considering all I have ventured into is on the public record, that is game, set, match. And Wombleoz, Good luck to those who frauded their way to their gains? Never, in my book! |
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Edison, one of the biggest scumbags in history, was also never charged or convicted.
Not the Goanna, who provided floating bordellos to politicians. Boy was that a shrewd investment! |
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thats the whole point, r u telling the truth??? and altercate motives due have relevance to the debate...............u keep mentioning fraud so tell us where
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if one was to have a guess jfc's involvement is closer than he lets on imo
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If I slipped once from telling the obvious established truth, I would have a bevy of defamation lawyers up my cloaca.
The fraud in question has been well documented on this very thread. Or just try googling: VITAB fraud |
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u r faceless and nameless so anything u say will just be taken down and deleted, so dont hide behind defamation laws to prove your unfounded opinions
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