New Posts For Thread: One Final thought !!https://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31223239/one-final-thoughtCan trainers and owners now stop entering horses such as Double Ross, Pendra, Saint Are , Tenor Nivenais, Lion Vieux Rouge, Maggio etc etc who are either seriously in decline and/or clearly don't stay and have already proved that and had their chanceHiphttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31223239/one-final-thought?post_id=554753565#554753565HipThu, 14 Jun 2018 03:58:47 -0500I don't understand your comparison with Auroras Encore. He wasn't a veteran who was in serious decline and he certainly wasn't short of stamina. Neither was he running off a false rating as it was 2nd in the Scots Nat the previous year off a 6 lb highttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31223239/one-final-thought?post_id=554255697#554255697I don't understand your comparison with Auroras Encore. He wasn't a veteran who was in serious decline and he certainly wasn't short of stamina. Neither was he running off a false rating as it was 2nd in the Scots Nat the previous year off a 6 lb higMon, 23 Apr 2018 08:51:57 -0500You could have used the same argument to exclude Auroras Encore. The problem with Vintage Clouds has been that, despite many chances in ideal conditions, he couldn't manage a single performance good enough to put him up the handicap. Hopefully, nexthttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31223239/one-final-thought?post_id=554251461#554251461You could have used the same argument to exclude Auroras Encore. The problem with Vintage Clouds has been that, despite many chances in ideal conditions, he couldn't manage a single performance good enough to put him up the handicap. Hopefully, nextMon, 23 Apr 2018 01:59:19 -0500The thread wasn't about stopping older horses running. It was about horses in serious decline and who clearly don't stay 4+ miles and who have had their chance. Vieux Lion Rouge isn't that old. I'm not advocating younger horses because if I had my wahttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31223239/one-final-thought?post_id=554244123#554244123The thread wasn't about stopping older horses running. It was about horses in serious decline and who clearly don't stay 4+ miles and who have had their chance. Vieux Lion Rouge isn't that old. I'm not advocating younger horses because if I had my waSun, 22 Apr 2018 14:23:15 -0500I like seeing proven older horses running in the grand national, would be a shame if there career was ended due to a biased view.Get a load of young horses running in the race wont end well.https://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31223239/one-final-thought?post_id=554214149#554214149I like seeing proven older horses running in the grand national, would be a shame if there career was ended due to a biased view.Get a load of young horses running in the race wont end well.Sat, 21 Apr 2018 04:15:17 -0500As a punter I welcome seeing those horses mentioned in the OP being entered. You can discount them straight away. Every little helps in that respect.I use to love Pipe having a quarter of the field because very few of them ever had a realistic chancehttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31223239/one-final-thought?post_id=554184219#554184219As a punter I welcome seeing those horses mentioned in the OP being entered. You can discount them straight away. Every little helps in that respect.I use to love Pipe having a quarter of the field because very few of them ever had a realistic chanceWed, 18 Apr 2018 16:14:52 -0500"is over" that should be.https://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31223239/one-final-thought?post_id=554183279#554183279"is over" that should be.Wed, 18 Apr 2018 14:59:33 -0500I know the GN is now gone and not wanting to harp on forever but just to highlight my sentiments just have a look at Delusionofgrandeur and tell me how Smith managed to handicap that horse so it could run. Will be back to it's proper rating of less thttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31223239/one-final-thought?post_id=554183269#554183269I know the GN is now gone and not wanting to harp on forever but just to highlight my sentiments just have a look at Delusionofgrandeur and tell me how Smith managed to handicap that horse so it could run. Will be back to it's proper rating of less tWed, 18 Apr 2018 14:58:48 -0500good posthttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31223239/one-final-thought?post_id=554168799#554168799good postTue, 17 Apr 2018 14:01:39 -0500Yes you're right Equine. I actually deviated from my own topic with my last post. That was more to do with the scenario whereby there is never any horses on 10st now. I think owners and trainers should act more responsibly and maybe have a conditionhttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31223239/one-final-thought?post_id=554164263#554164263Yes you're right Equine. I actually deviated from my own topic with my last post. That was more to do with the scenario whereby there is never any horses on 10st now. I think owners and trainers should act more responsibly and maybe have a conditionTue, 17 Apr 2018 09:06:34 -0500