New Posts For Thread: Balloted out questionhttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31113395/balloted-out-questionAre all horses who don't make the final 40 from the current list deemed to be balloted out or just the 4 reserves from Thursday onwards? I believe if they're balloted out then they're classed as NR and stakes are refunded.Completely agree Rydal. I am guaranteed a nice green but have had to tie-up £10k. With THREE NRs this morning though it has all been worth ithttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31113395/balloted-out-question?post_id=554095305#554095305Completely agree Rydal. I am guaranteed a nice green but have had to tie-up £10k. With THREE NRs this morning though it has all been worth itFri, 13 Apr 2018 06:55:09 -0500Pete - sorry but can you quickly explain this to me? - I don't usually lay AP markets much (I do remember an incident where I ended up w a massive neg a/c balance - and BF explained it away saying it would come right in time ... is this what you meanhttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31113395/balloted-out-question?post_id=554094999#554094999Pete - sorry but can you quickly explain this to me? - I don't usually lay AP markets much (I do remember an incident where I ended up w a massive neg a/c balance - and BF explained it away saying it would come right in time ... is this what you meanFri, 13 Apr 2018 06:41:53 -0500I agree Pete.The Antepost markets are small but players do other things as well. The neglect is typical of the general approach. At one stage, the rules had the worng date for the race, horses names misspelt (makes using a programme difficult), a 6 yhttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31113395/balloted-out-question?post_id=554074281#554074281I agree Pete.The Antepost markets are small but players do other things as well. The neglect is typical of the general approach. At one stage, the rules had the worng date for the race, horses names misspelt (makes using a programme difficult), a 6 yThu, 12 Apr 2018 13:56:05 -0500Nice record-keeping Rydal. The years fly in.I know they initially said it would only be handicaps and the festival bumper, but I notice that they have extended that (without warning) to some other festival races.Like a lot of other people, I'm just whttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31113395/balloted-out-question?post_id=554073675#554073675Nice record-keeping Rydal. The years fly in.I know they initially said it would only be handicaps and the festival bumper, but I notice that they have extended that (without warning) to some other festival races.Like a lot of other people, I'm just wThu, 12 Apr 2018 13:36:18 -0500PeteExposure offset was stopped in the run-up to the 2012 race. They allowed leeway for layers who had existing positions at the time (January 2012 I think). It followed a mini-scandal when people who didn't understand how the markets work were buildhttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31113395/balloted-out-question?post_id=554072595#554072595PeteExposure offset was stopped in the run-up to the 2012 race. They allowed leeway for layers who had existing positions at the time (January 2012 I think). It followed a mini-scandal when people who didn't understand how the markets work were buildThu, 12 Apr 2018 13:07:39 -0500I still believe it's inconsistent compared to golf, where a nonner is money back in all casesand exposure offset is allowed (in my opinion a R4 would be justified for that). I haven't bet on Wimbledon for a few years, but that used to be non-runner ehttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31113395/balloted-out-question?post_id=554071167#554071167I still believe it's inconsistent compared to golf, where a nonner is money back in all casesand exposure offset is allowed (in my opinion a R4 would be justified for that). I haven't bet on Wimbledon for a few years, but that used to be non-runner eThu, 12 Apr 2018 12:27:33 -0500Was it after 2013 that Betfair stopped exposure offset for layers? I think it was a year or two laterthan that, wasn't it?https://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31113395/balloted-out-question?post_id=554071025#554071025Was it after 2013 that Betfair stopped exposure offset for layers? I think it was a year or two laterthan that, wasn't it?Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:23:20 -0500Of course, 2013 was a wonderful year for layers.https://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31113395/balloted-out-question?post_id=554037591#554037591Of course, 2013 was a wonderful year for layers.Wed, 11 Apr 2018 16:35:59 -0500PeteIn 2008, 74 of the original 149 entries were balloted out.I think that they must have put the entry fee up after that!In 2013, just 3 were.https://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31113395/balloted-out-question?post_id=554037559#554037559PeteIn 2008, 74 of the original 149 entries were balloted out.I think that they must have put the entry fee up after that!In 2013, just 3 were.Wed, 11 Apr 2018 16:35:05 -0500Is it my imagination, or are there a lot more balloted runners in these big races than there were 7-8 years ago?https://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/31113395/balloted-out-question?post_id=554036033#554036033Is it my imagination, or are there a lot more balloted runners in these big races than there were 7-8 years ago?Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:49:37 -0500