New Posts For Thread: Rocky Creekhttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/30466195/rocky-creekHedgehunter did it. Looked to be weakening before falling at the last in 2004 and the returning in 2005 to storm home.Rocky Creek was only a 2nd season chaser last season and was leading before 2 out. Is he more of a man this season? The OH seems toI agree that Many Clouds put up one of the best performances for many years and I hope that he comes back as good next year. However, the statement "he can only improve" is often the kiss of death for young horses that win big races. Just consider Sphttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/30466195/rocky-creek?post_id=544318979#544318979I agree that Many Clouds put up one of the best performances for many years and I hope that he comes back as good next year. However, the statement "he can only improve" is often the kiss of death for young horses that win big races. Just consider SpTue, 14 Apr 2015 02:30:11 -0500I pointed that out Jasey. Coneygree maybe rated 178+ by the time the weights come out for the GN.The Gold Cup maybe of a higher standard than the OH gave it credit for. A few old dogs on here believe 172 is too low. If he wins the Hennessy off 172 inhttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/30466195/rocky-creek?post_id=544312933#544312933I pointed that out Jasey. Coneygree maybe rated 178+ by the time the weights come out for the GN.The Gold Cup maybe of a higher standard than the OH gave it credit for. A few old dogs on here believe 172 is too low. If he wins the Hennessy off 172 inMon, 13 Apr 2015 12:43:45 -0500It would still result in many horses out of the handicaphttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/30466195/rocky-creek?post_id=544312409#544312409It would still result in many horses out of the handicapMon, 13 Apr 2015 12:05:59 -0500Coneygree would be given a lower mark than his official one.https://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/30466195/rocky-creek?post_id=544312387#544312387Coneygree would be given a lower mark than his official one.Mon, 13 Apr 2015 12:04:37 -0500The weight ceiling is relative of course though Fabulous. Coneygree would possibly have an OR of lets say 178 by then if he wins the Hennessy or the Gold Cup form is further franked. Perhaps Smithy would let him in with 172, but Many Clouds won off ahttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/30466195/rocky-creek?post_id=544308281#544308281The weight ceiling is relative of course though Fabulous. Coneygree would possibly have an OR of lets say 178 by then if he wins the Hennessy or the Gold Cup form is further franked. Perhaps Smithy would let him in with 172, but Many Clouds won off aMon, 13 Apr 2015 06:18:35 -0500Thanks for that AG, glad I wasn't imagining things. Well that's encouraging anyway, you're right, he'd be some sight round there, and you never know after that weight carried by Many Clouds.https://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/30466195/rocky-creek?post_id=544308027#544308027Thanks for that AG, glad I wasn't imagining things. Well that's encouraging anyway, you're right, he'd be some sight round there, and you never know after that weight carried by Many Clouds.Mon, 13 Apr 2015 05:38:34 -0500You will be right Fabulous, but we know Coneygree has Grand National stamped all over him. However here are some quotes from Sara Bradstock after the Do Rightly death.##A tearful Sara Bradstock, the trainer's wife, said: "No-one has slept much here.https://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/30466195/rocky-creek?post_id=544305975#544305975You will be right Fabulous, but we know Coneygree has Grand National stamped all over him. However here are some quotes from Sara Bradstock after the Do Rightly death.##A tearful Sara Bradstock, the trainer's wife, said: "No-one has slept much here.Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:57:40 -0500AG, I think Bradstock will be hesitant to enter any horse in The National, I'm sure he was soured on the race after what happened to Do Rightly in 98. Probably why they've never considered Carruthers for it.Hope I'm wrong though, would be great to sehttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/30466195/rocky-creek?post_id=544302177#544302177AG, I think Bradstock will be hesitant to enter any horse in The National, I'm sure he was soured on the race after what happened to Do Rightly in 98. Probably why they've never considered Carruthers for it.Hope I'm wrong though, would be great to seSun, 12 Apr 2015 13:46:59 -0500quite an amazing performance . carried more weight to victory than every winner since RED RUM carried 12 stone in 1974 . And as trainer said he thought this was a year too early for the grand national as he was only 8 year old and only ran on the ownhttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/30466195/rocky-creek?post_id=544293195#544293195quite an amazing performance . carried more weight to victory than every winner since RED RUM carried 12 stone in 1974 . And as trainer said he thought this was a year too early for the grand national as he was only 8 year old and only ran on the ownSun, 12 Apr 2015 05:14:24 -0500They should enter Coneygree in for next years race. It would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons.https://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/30466195/rocky-creek?post_id=544292707#544292707They should enter Coneygree in for next years race. It would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons.Sun, 12 Apr 2015 03:34:48 -0500