New Posts For Thread: National Ante-Post Betshttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29278381/national-ante-post-betsBetfair have totally ruined this market for the vast majority with their tinkering Can someone please explain the reasons for this when every previous year there were no problems.I just can't understand why each liability has to be covered, which inI guess what i'm asking is, "what is exposure offset?" as I dont reallyunderstand it and will the fact it is no longer allowed on the Grand National market affect the approach described in the above post?https://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29278381/national-ante-post-bets?post_id=525089919#525089919I guess what i'm asking is, "what is exposure offset?" as I dont reallyunderstand it and will the fact it is no longer allowed on the Grand National market affect the approach described in the above post?Sun, 14 Oct 2012 08:17:39 -0500For the last couple of year's i've aimed to start the National with an all green book. Obviously this means backing horses to lay them further down the line at reduced odds (hopefully!). This has worked for me for the last couple of years however doehttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29278381/national-ante-post-bets?post_id=525088257#525088257For the last couple of year's i've aimed to start the National with an all green book. Obviously this means backing horses to lay them further down the line at reduced odds (hopefully!). This has worked for me for the last couple of years however doeSun, 14 Oct 2012 07:17:47 -0500Thanks again Rydal.BBF - that's a definite 'YES' as Rydal states, if the circumstances could be exaggerated to the extent of my tale of woe above If the balloted out horses are at the head of the market (which isn't unlikely) the reductions could behttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29278381/national-ante-post-bets?post_id=522812999#522812999Thanks again Rydal.BBF - that's a definite 'YES' as Rydal states, if the circumstances could be exaggerated to the extent of my tale of woe above If the balloted out horses are at the head of the market (which isn't unlikely) the reductions could beThu, 09 Aug 2012 08:28:58 -0500Bluebirdfan, the answer to your question is yes.Navel-Gazer, the thread was called "Betfairs Latest Wheeze". It is on the Antepost Forum. The last posting on it was on March 2nd 2012. You should be able to find it from that.https://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29278381/national-ante-post-bets?post_id=522792037#522792037Bluebirdfan, the answer to your question is yes.Navel-Gazer, the thread was called "Betfairs Latest Wheeze". It is on the Antepost Forum. The last posting on it was on March 2nd 2012. You should be able to find it from that.Wed, 08 Aug 2012 15:47:20 -0500Really not understanding this sorry; so I could have a green book a few weeks before the national then if a few of them were balloted out it would end up costing me money?https://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29278381/national-ante-post-bets?post_id=522786737#522786737Really not understanding this sorry; so I could have a green book a few weeks before the national then if a few of them were balloted out it would end up costing me money?Wed, 08 Aug 2012 13:38:37 -0500Thanks Rydal - have you any links to any of the discussions that went on here, when Betfair moved the goalposts?I'm still struggling to understand the concept, but I'm assuming it's something similar to what I experienced a few months ago on here, whhttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29278381/national-ante-post-bets?post_id=522773929#522773929Thanks Rydal - have you any links to any of the discussions that went on here, when Betfair moved the goalposts?I'm still struggling to understand the concept, but I'm assuming it's something similar to what I experienced a few months ago on here, whWed, 08 Aug 2012 08:54:57 -0500When I spoke to them about this, they seemed more interested in protecting themselves but, to be fair, it will protect some naive customers.Not all layers understand the risk that they may move from an all green to an all red screen instantaneously,https://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29278381/national-ante-post-bets?post_id=522766669#522766669When I spoke to them about this, they seemed more interested in protecting themselves but, to be fair, it will protect some naive customers.Not all layers understand the risk that they may move from an all green to an all red screen instantaneously,Wed, 08 Aug 2012 04:42:07 -0500Rydal - can you explain why they made their decision and what precise bearing do balloted out horses have on the race?A couple of years ago on the Thursday morning when the ante-post market closed (and day of race opened) I remember havingquite a chuhttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29278381/national-ante-post-bets?post_id=522751783#522751783Rydal - can you explain why they made their decision and what precise bearing do balloted out horses have on the race?A couple of years ago on the Thursday morning when the ante-post market closed (and day of race opened) I remember havingquite a chuTue, 07 Aug 2012 16:43:10 -0500Jan/Feb is the time I get involved in the first instance.https://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29278381/national-ante-post-bets?post_id=522730857#522730857Jan/Feb is the time I get involved in the first instance.Tue, 07 Aug 2012 10:27:17 -0500We went through this issue on the Antepost Forum at some length when the change was made. There appears to be no chance of the situation changing back. The book looks very strange this year. Someone is laying fairly large sums at unnecessarily high phttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29278381/national-ante-post-bets?post_id=522722305#522722305We went through this issue on the Antepost Forum at some length when the change was made. There appears to be no chance of the situation changing back. The book looks very strange this year. Someone is laying fairly large sums at unnecessarily high pTue, 07 Aug 2012 06:55:03 -0500