New Posts For Thread: Aintree Grand National stats and breeding.https://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29052413/aintree-grand-national-stats-and-breedingNot only have i applied 14 stats that were achieved by all recent winners,i have also applied some very interesting breeding stats that have appeared in the 9 generation tree of recent winners.Dating back to 2002 all winners had either Vimy(king georJust watched National again. You're right about the Killyglen jockey. He looked to have jumped that fence fine.https://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29052413/aintree-grand-national-stats-and-breeding?post_id=518647853#518647853Just watched National again. You're right about the Killyglen jockey. He looked to have jumped that fence fine.Sun, 15 Apr 2012 13:27:30 -0500What an excellent thread 247. Your analysis of the stats and breeding some of the best I have come across. I think it is a bit harsh to call Mclernon a monkey. He gave the horse an excellent ride up until the elbow where unfortunately he made a messhttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29052413/aintree-grand-national-stats-and-breeding?post_id=518644441#518644441What an excellent thread 247. Your analysis of the stats and breeding some of the best I have come across. I think it is a bit harsh to call Mclernon a monkey. He gave the horse an excellent ride up until the elbow where unfortunately he made a messSun, 15 Apr 2012 12:05:43 -0500stats are fine, if you are talking about a trainer/horse/owner record at a track...but not if a horse is grey!!!or if hasnt run for 49 days!or if it has run in 10 chases?if you are eliminating 36 horses solely on these 12 stats or breeding trends thehttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29052413/aintree-grand-national-stats-and-breeding?post_id=518636357#518636357stats are fine, if you are talking about a trainer/horse/owner record at a track...but not if a horse is grey!!!or if hasnt run for 49 days!or if it has run in 10 chases?if you are eliminating 36 horses solely on these 12 stats or breeding trends theSun, 15 Apr 2012 08:55:41 -0500RozeyYou are not getting it are you!Its all about what is more likely to happen, when people use the stats. If it was not more likely then the stats would not exist!!Its not difficult to understand really. See i put in a top stats horse and my own ihttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29052413/aintree-grand-national-stats-and-breeding?post_id=518629235#518629235RozeyYou are not getting it are you!Its all about what is more likely to happen, when people use the stats. If it was not more likely then the stats would not exist!!Its not difficult to understand really. See i put in a top stats horse and my own iSun, 15 Apr 2012 04:04:05 -0500Thx forthe thread. I thought we had won after the last! Bring on next year!https://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29052413/aintree-grand-national-stats-and-breeding?post_id=518626369#518626369Thx forthe thread. I thought we had won after the last! Bring on next year!Sat, 14 Apr 2012 22:47:41 -0500less of your hitler talk 247, just becasue your horse did not win, or that someone asked you a question on the probibility of a stats based study succeeding ... doesnt mean you can give one of your hitler rants again about an individuals humanity.leahttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29052413/aintree-grand-national-stats-and-breeding?post_id=518624885#518624885less of your hitler talk 247, just becasue your horse did not win, or that someone asked you a question on the probibility of a stats based study succeeding ... doesnt mean you can give one of your hitler rants again about an individuals humanity.leaSat, 14 Apr 2012 20:53:06 -0500Angel, i've not been trying to get personal here,or cause arguments for arguments sake on this thread, im just trying to state simple facts.I'm forever trying to get people who follow stats in a national race to realise this. If someone uses stats ahttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29052413/aintree-grand-national-stats-and-breeding?post_id=518624677#518624677Angel, i've not been trying to get personal here,or cause arguments for arguments sake on this thread, im just trying to state simple facts.I'm forever trying to get people who follow stats in a national race to realise this. If someone uses stats aSat, 14 Apr 2012 20:38:37 -0500Angel, i've not been trying to get personal here,or cause arguments for arguments sake on this thread, im just trying to state simple facts.I'm forever trying to get people who follow stats in a national race to realise this. If someone uses stats ahttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29052413/aintree-grand-national-stats-and-breeding?post_id=518624653#518624653Angel, i've not been trying to get personal here,or cause arguments for arguments sake on this thread, im just trying to state simple facts.I'm forever trying to get people who follow stats in a national race to realise this. If someone uses stats aSat, 14 Apr 2012 20:37:30 -0500The stats are only a guide..The betting is only a guide..You seem to think all the stats followers are blind to everything else. It is just another piece of the equation for assessing a possible elimination process. I brought up Cappa Bleu earlier whhttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29052413/aintree-grand-national-stats-and-breeding?post_id=518623491#518623491The stats are only a guide..The betting is only a guide..You seem to think all the stats followers are blind to everything else. It is just another piece of the equation for assessing a possible elimination process. I brought up Cappa Bleu earlier whSat, 14 Apr 2012 19:15:47 -0500well angel gabrial, you sound like an ignorant fairy if you want to get personal.im just making the point that stats dont mean nothing in the national , because what you are doing is eliminating the chances of 6 of the top 7 horses in the race todayhttps://community.betfair.com/aintree2011/go/thread/view/121613/29052413/aintree-grand-national-stats-and-breeding?post_id=518623267#518623267well angel gabrial, you sound like an ignorant fairy if you want to get personal.im just making the point that stats dont mean nothing in the national , because what you are doing is eliminating the chances of 6 of the top 7 horses in the race todaySat, 14 Apr 2012 19:02:27 -0500