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ATP Masters 1000 Paris

WTA Elite Trophy Zhuhai

The #1 is on the line in Paris with the return of Nadal.

Zhuhai groups:
Azalea - Kasatkina, Keys, Wang
Camellia - Sevastova, Muguruza, Zhang
Orchid - Sabalenka, Garcia, Barty
Rose - Mertens, Goerges, Kontaveit

Zhuhai starts Tuesday.
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Report GRANTCKING November 2, 2018 1:55 PM GMT
zverev was gonna retire if he got broken
Report GRANTCKING November 2, 2018 1:55 PM GMT

Nov 2, 2018 -- 8:54AM, jin_kazz wrote:


what's wrong with zverev?


his arms fecked or something

Report jin_kazz November 2, 2018 1:57 PM GMT
khachanov is seriously brain damaged
Report GRANTCKING November 2, 2018 1:57 PM GMT
Laugh
Report jin_kazz November 2, 2018 2:00 PM GMT
zverev is perfectly fine
Report bobweenit November 2, 2018 2:07 PM GMT
sniper hoping here
Report bobweenit November 2, 2018 2:07 PM GMT
some mugs thought he had retired after set 1
Report bobweenit November 2, 2018 2:11 PM GMT
100        £8    £180Laugh
Report bobweenit November 2, 2018 2:14 PM GMT
never trust a man with fluff 4 a tash and bum fluff for chin chair
Report bobweenit November 2, 2018 2:22 PM GMT
and who plays with 5 gold chains around his neck to play tennis
Report jin_kazz November 2, 2018 2:32 PM GMT
gypsies
Report tof November 2, 2018 2:52 PM GMT
clausette doing ze business
Report tof November 2, 2018 2:53 PM GMT
chausette even ...
Report GRANTCKING November 2, 2018 3:14 PM GMT
holy feck jack nicklaus sock is flying
Report nofx November 2, 2018 3:17 PM GMT
what a mug zverev he can't even tank right
Report GRANTCKING November 2, 2018 3:17 PM GMT
thiem breaks back!
Report bobweenit November 2, 2018 3:29 PM GMT

Nov 2, 2018 -- 10:14AM, GRANTCKING wrote:


holy feck jack nicklaus sock is flying


Cool

Report tof November 2, 2018 3:33 PM GMT
ze french love a smelly claudette and the smelly claudette lurves them back ...
Report tof November 2, 2018 3:33 PM GMT
chausette ffs ...
Report tof November 2, 2018 3:41 PM GMT
kiki clapping coz she understands and relates to utter muggery ...Happy
Report bobweenit November 2, 2018 4:49 PM GMT
dom will choke
Report bobweenit November 2, 2018 4:51 PM GMT

Nov 2, 2018 -- 11:49AM, bobweenit wrote:


dom will choke


15-0 to 15-40 Man I am good

Report tof November 2, 2018 5:15 PM GMT
bobweener wrote man I am a mug ...
Report tof November 2, 2018 5:27 PM GMT
wtf is Bencic infuriating herself and irritating her team in Tyler ... ? She'd be better off on instagram ...
Report bobweenit November 2, 2018 5:31 PM GMT
tof your Mom was moist this morning Wink
Report GRANTCKING November 2, 2018 6:09 PM GMT
tofs mum makes fantastic tortellini
Report GRANTCKING November 2, 2018 6:10 PM GMT
is bencic actually trying in this tournament?
Report tof November 2, 2018 6:11 PM GMT

Nov 2, 2018 -- 12:31PM, bobweenit wrote:


tof your Mom was moist this morning


that's coz I banged her before you ...

Report GRANTCKING November 2, 2018 6:15 PM GMT
Laugh
Report n88uk November 2, 2018 6:15 PM GMT

Nov 2, 2018 -- 1:10PM, GRANTCKING wrote:


is bencic actually trying in this tournament?


Yes.

Report bobweenit November 2, 2018 7:34 PM GMT

Nov 2, 2018 -- 1:11PM, tof wrote:


Nov  2, 2018 --  5:31PM, bobweenit wrote:tof your Mom was moist this morningthat's coz I banged her before you ...


LaughLaugh

Report Help2 November 2, 2018 8:57 PM GMT
novak is just to good! wow
Report caramba November 3, 2018 9:07 AM GMT
Keys out. You'd think that means Garbine in semis, but oh no Qualifier Wong gets Madison's SF spot. Nervous times for Wong outright layers.
Report caramba November 3, 2018 9:09 AM GMT
*Garbine in F
Report caramba November 3, 2018 10:06 AM GMT
ffs Jools
Report nofx November 3, 2018 10:14 AM GMT
what a muppet tournament. group is over ffs, no takebacksies
Report nofx November 3, 2018 10:14 AM GMT
then Q only ever won because Keys' spectacular winning-no-more-games demise in the first place. and Kasa beat her!
Report tof November 3, 2018 10:22 AM GMT
gorges pinnish no ... ?
Report tof November 3, 2018 10:23 AM GMT
longtime pinnish ... innit ...
Report caramba November 3, 2018 10:27 AM GMT

Nov 3, 2018 -- 5:14AM, nofx wrote:


what a muppet tournament. group is over ffs, no takebacksies


joke decision indeed. it's one thing if Keys was caught doping or something and Q missed out on a SF spot because of that, but she was eliminated fair and square.

Report tof November 3, 2018 10:37 AM GMT

Nov 3, 2018 -- 4:07AM, caramba wrote:


Keys out. You'd think that means Garbine in semis, but oh no Qualifier Wong gets Madison's SF spot. Nervous times for Wong outright layers.


wonder how bet fair handled that trade ...

Report nofx November 3, 2018 10:41 AM GMT
they already took her out of the market
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 10:42 AM GMT
Wang has taken Keys place btw.
Report nofx November 3, 2018 10:43 AM GMT
that's what we're rabbling about. rabble rabble!
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 10:43 AM GMT
I actually knew of this scenario yday when Keys was looking injured, but there's no liquidity here, if this was a liquid market would be funny if people were dumb enough to lay Wang @ 1000s when this scenario would be known.
Report nofx November 3, 2018 10:44 AM GMT
funny business still because they did take Keys out too, but didn't re-settle and put Q back in. for reasons
Report caramba November 3, 2018 10:44 AM GMT
you could have put a 1000 back in and hope to get matched.
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 10:44 AM GMT
Pretty sure it's same rules for YEC, you just never see them used.
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 10:47 AM GMT
Betfair probs handle this muggily anyway.
Report nofx November 3, 2018 10:47 AM GMT
wonder how much time there was between Keys' walkover and them Zhuhaians deciding to just bend the rules, and how much bookies took on Mugu o/r in that time
Report nofx November 3, 2018 10:48 AM GMT
and by bend I mean cheat n' rig
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 10:50 AM GMT
It's in the rulebook. It was posted on Twitter many times yday, I was thinking of copying it here, but didn't. I was aware of this from the past anyway but yer I guess I should have posted it here.
Report caramba November 3, 2018 10:50 AM GMT

Nov 3, 2018 -- 5:47AM, nofx wrote:


wonder how much time there was between Keys' walkover and them Zhuhaians deciding to just bend the rules, and how much bookies took on Mugu o/r in that time


it was in the rulebook all along :(

Report nofx November 3, 2018 10:50 AM GMT
how??
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 10:51 AM GMT
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrEWsxfUcAABmKq.jpg

It's been briefly mentioned in past at YEC's but has never been used to my knowledge.
Report nofx November 3, 2018 10:52 AM GMT
Keys didn't retire during the match so. they just treat play offs like start of tournament?
Report nofx November 3, 2018 10:53 AM GMT
cheers
Report nofx November 3, 2018 11:01 AM GMT
even when you do this bs, group-standing rules should altered to become h2h first. rules only exist the way they are because of the stupid threeway

Give us Kasa is what I'm saying
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 11:05 AM GMT
Kasatkina got massively screwed in this group anyway.
Report nofx November 3, 2018 11:06 AM GMT
yes she did. from day one by schedulers
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 11:06 AM GMT
Her vs Keys was 2nd on after playing last on like 3 hours day before.

On top of this it's out and out mug scheduling that Zhuhai somehow still haven't learned how to structure their tournament after like 4 years. The 2nd match should always be match 1 loser vs player who didn't play, it stops dead rubbers, otherwise if someone just wins match 1 and match 2, match 3 is totally pointless (they got away with it here, but it's still awful scheduling).
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 11:07 AM GMT
Zhuhai always has weird, poorly thought out scheduling, some players play back to back days, others play like day 1 then day 4.
Report nofx November 3, 2018 11:07 AM GMT
from the looks of it, if Q wins today, betfar will just settle o/r automatically with Barty as winner. then wait if any angry emails to make a decision
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 11:08 AM GMT
There's so little money outright, won't be that many angry e-mails, probs very few people actually affected.
Report nofx November 3, 2018 11:08 AM GMT

Nov 3, 2018 -- 6:07AM, n88uk wrote:


Zhuhai always has weird, poorly thought out scheduling, some players play back to back days, others play like day 1 then day 4.


not when it came to their two players they weren't incompetent

Report n88uk November 3, 2018 11:12 AM GMT
The obvious thing to do would be whoever plays the 3rd, ie. late match day before, that group doesn't play next day, somehow this is beyond whoever does the scheduling at Zhuhai. So you'd have like:

1a vs 1b
2a vs 2b
3a vs 3b

4a vs 4b
1b vs 1c
2b vs 2c

3b vs 3c
4b vs 4c
1a vs 1c

2a vs 2c
3a vs 3c
4a vs 4c

There I just done Zhuhai's schedule in 30 seconds better than they manage every year.
Report SabineIsGOAT November 3, 2018 11:47 AM GMT
Laugh classic Sumyk/Garbine interaction
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 11:57 AM GMT
The imaginary 1000s in danger!
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 11:58 AM GMT
How do Sumyk and Garbine actually survive as a partnership, when you see how they are on court knowing they are being filmed and recorded and going out worldwide, you can only imagine then there discussions on the practice court.
Report SabineIsGOAT November 3, 2018 12:01 PM GMT
Wang changed coaches or is McNamara just not here this week
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 12:06 PM GMT
I think he's probably just not there, given he was there in like Beijing a matter of weeks ago, and it would be weird to have split with him after her end of season.
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 12:10 PM GMT
Wang is back outright btw. 14.5 was highest price matched on her, so no crazy prices (given she was like 8s pre and lost her first match).
Report SabineIsGOAT November 3, 2018 12:11 PM GMT
muggy crowd owned garbine there
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 12:12 PM GMT
Garbine known for getting owned my muggy crowds.
Report tof November 3, 2018 12:12 PM GMT
m00g00 too thick to grasp how anger works ...
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 12:13 PM GMT
I was thinking yesterday how Muguruza actually looked very good at the end, and was showing great fight to keep coming back from losing positions.
Report tof November 3, 2018 12:14 PM GMT
looked like she touched the net here ...
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 12:20 PM GMT
What a mug Muguruza.
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 12:21 PM GMT
Muguruza was 2-1 up in this match lol.
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 12:22 PM GMT
Muguruza not even pretending to try at the end, not even moving for balls.
Report SabineIsGOAT November 3, 2018 12:23 PM GMT
I ask if Sumyk is fired yet a lot, but you would think there's an actual chance he's not there at the start of next season
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 12:24 PM GMT
Feel like I've seen Wang give about 20 Chinese interviews the past month.
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 12:25 PM GMT
I guess this year her ranking has actually plummeted a lot might initiate action, but how he lasts is anyone's idea.
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 12:28 PM GMT
#17 (and #18 if Barty wins tomorrow) really is unacceptable for someone of Muguruza's talents, no way she should be accepting that. Not even like there's a valid injury excuse, just not been good enough from her virtually all year.
Report SabineIsGOAT November 3, 2018 12:29 PM GMT
when she won Wimbledon he wasn't even there lol
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 12:30 PM GMT
What tournament did she really look legit this year. For a while at RG, but battering Sharapova has less meaning these days than it would have 5 years ago.
Report tof November 3, 2018 12:32 PM GMT

Nov 3, 2018 -- 7:23AM, SabineIsGOAT wrote:


I ask if Sumyk is fired yet a lot, but you would think there's an actual chance he's not there at the start of next season


only a f00l would blame the coach ...

Report SabineIsGOAT November 3, 2018 12:43 PM GMT
yeah you're right, their relationship looks like it's working great
Report n88uk November 3, 2018 12:52 PM GMT
The imaginary 1000s price is now odds on.
Report tof November 3, 2018 1:29 PM GMT

Nov 3, 2018 -- 7:43AM, SabineIsGOAT wrote:


yeah you're right, their relationship looks like it's working great


its not his fault i'd say it makes no difference who garbage has as coach ... her idea & perspective of the game is warped ...

Report tof November 3, 2018 2:08 PM GMT
trance mosaic at the sit downs in India ... Laugh
Report jin_kazz November 3, 2018 2:12 PM GMT
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Jack Sock becomes the 4th player to start the year in the top10 and finish outside the top100 (without injuries)

Mancini #10 (01/1990) —> 127
Bruguera #8 (01/1998) —> 132
Philippoussis #9 (2/2004) —> 109
Sock #8 (2/2018) —> 105 (projected)
Report jin_kazz November 3, 2018 2:12 PM GMT
sucka sock
Report SabineIsGOAT November 3, 2018 2:18 PM GMT
think I hear crazy french guy cheering for thiem
Report jin_kazz November 3, 2018 2:22 PM GMT
so much glory
Report tof November 3, 2018 3:02 PM GMT

Nov 3, 2018 -- 9:12AM, jin_kazz wrote:


enrico maria riva‏Подлинная учетная запись@enricomariarivaЧитать Читать @enricomariarivaЕщеJack Sock becomes the 4th player to start the year in the top10 and finish outside the top100 (without injuries)Mancini #10 (01/1990) —> 127 Bruguera #8 (01/1998) —> 132Philippoussis #9 (2/2004) —> 109Sock #8 (2/2018) —> 105 (projected)


Laugh

Report jin_kazz November 3, 2018 3:30 PM GMT
this is how you build your legacy
Report n88uk November 4, 2018 3:09 PM GMT
Cashanov GOATing.
Report SabineIsGOAT November 4, 2018 3:52 PM GMT
Khachanov never looked like mugging, impressive
Report caramba November 4, 2018 3:52 PM GMT
streak broken
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