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Report mesmerised February 23, 2018 3:02 PM GMT
Laugh
Report tof February 23, 2018 3:03 PM GMT
thought perhaps she's a housewife model blah blah and has an arrangement with wta ...
Report tof February 23, 2018 3:03 PM GMT
housewife model part time porn actress ...
Report nofx February 23, 2018 3:05 PM GMT
WTA wouldn't hand out ranking points for that. no matter how outstanding your performance
Report tof February 23, 2018 3:06 PM GMT
"Mr kasatkina is challenging "Laugh
Report tof February 23, 2018 3:08 PM GMT

Feb 23, 2018 -- 3:05PM, nofx wrote:


WTA wouldn't hand out ranking points for that. no matter how outstanding your performance


well thats debatable ...

Report nofx February 23, 2018 3:09 PM GMT
Vesnina never got any for hers. and look at Genie's ranking after not one but two swimsuit editions
Report nofx February 23, 2018 3:10 PM GMT
wow my god is tiebreak from hell
Report tof February 23, 2018 3:10 PM GMT
nothing suprises me anymore ... I also thought Oxfam are there to help ...
Report nofx February 23, 2018 3:11 PM GMT
at one point i thought we were evolving as a species
Report nofx February 23, 2018 3:12 PM GMT
final comeback is for Dasha
Report edy February 23, 2018 3:12 PM GMT

Feb 23, 2018 -- 3:01PM, nofx wrote:


why = why would you think a player ranked #56 is a primadonna that gets to choose tournaments


Heard on TF that Muguruza is cheating big time with her Brisbane ranking points

Report GRANTCKING February 23, 2018 3:13 PM GMT
Grin n88uk reverse jinxed kasatkina a few weeks ago when he said she was woeful at tinnis!!
Report nofx February 23, 2018 3:15 PM GMT
because you're supposed to tank Brisbane or ssomething?
Report mesmerised February 23, 2018 3:15 PM GMT
Kasatkina is a thinking man's tennis playerCool
Report edy February 23, 2018 3:18 PM GMT
Muguruza had a first round bye, then lost her only match at the tournament and, contrary to what seem to be the rules, has 55 points credited on her WTA profile instead of 1 point.
Report nofx February 23, 2018 3:19 PM GMT
so how does the WTA being bad at either maths or accounting make Garbine a cheater? what a whack forum
Report mesmerised February 23, 2018 3:20 PM GMT
Why would she have 1 point if she lost in the second round ?

Byes automatically begin at 55 points, no cheating whatsoever.
Report edy February 23, 2018 3:23 PM GMT
No, if you lose your first match of the tournament after a bye, you get first round points. Been like that since I can remember and is still that way in this year's rule book.
Report edy February 23, 2018 3:24 PM GMT
http://wtafiles.wtatennis.com/pdf/publications/2018WTARulebook.pdf

Byes/Defaults/Walkovers
a. Byes
The following rules will apply to the cases outlined below:
i. If a player or team receives one (1) or more consecutive byes and
loses her/their 1st match played, 1st round losers’ points will be
awarded, and the player or team shall receive prize money for
the round reached.
ii. If a player or team receives one (1) or more consecutive byes and
withdraws from her/their 1st match, no ranking points shall be
awarded, the Tournament will not count on her/their record and
no prize money shall be paid out.
Report GRANTCKING February 23, 2018 3:26 PM GMT
here comes the russian collapso
Report mesmerised February 23, 2018 3:26 PM GMT
well you learn something new everyday, what a strange rule.

So if you win the first match in which you were given a bye, make it to the quarters, then lose, you get quarter final points and not Round 2 points ?

Strange.
Report edy February 23, 2018 3:27 PM GMT
yes
Report nofx February 23, 2018 3:27 PM GMT
sounds like a lot of nothingburger to me
Report mesmerised February 23, 2018 3:28 PM GMT
I thought I knew all the obscure rules.

Still a WTA error if she's carried those points rather than her.
Report nofx February 23, 2018 3:30 PM GMT
Dasha, always so collapsing
Report dlarssonf February 23, 2018 3:40 PM GMT
so does muguruza have 55 points on her current ranking now or has it been corrected??
Report wisewords February 23, 2018 3:46 PM GMT

Feb 23, 2018 -- 3:26PM, mesmerised wrote:


well you learn something new everyday, what a strange rule.So if you win the first match in which you were given a bye, make it to the quarters, then lose, you get quarter final points and not Round 2 points ?Strange.


surely you get QF points because you won your first match?

Report wisewords February 23, 2018 3:48 PM GMT
Muguruza:

1.02              £16,046
1.03              £105,657
1.04              £10,372
1.05              £172,330
Report edy February 23, 2018 3:49 PM GMT
I don't think it's on her ranking at all currently because it's not among her best countable tournaments. It's just something that someone on TF noticed on her profile page and wondered about. It's probably just the (still somewhat new) WTA site being crap and full of programming errors.
Report wisewords February 23, 2018 3:51 PM GMT

Feb 23, 2018 -- 3:46PM, wisewords wrote:


Feb 23, 2018 --  3:26PM, mesmerised wrote:well you learn something new everyday, what a strange rule.So if you win the first match in which you were given a bye, make it to the quarters, then lose, you get quarter final points and not Round 2 points ?Strange.surely you get QF points because you won your first match?


I misread. you don't "win" a match that you advance through a bye mes. ffs!

Report mesmerised February 23, 2018 3:53 PM GMT
You are only awarded 1 point if you lose the second round as a bye, but if you win the second round and make the quarters, you get Quarter final points - for only winning only one match, that's why it doesn't make logical sense having this dumb rule.
Report wisewords February 23, 2018 3:58 PM GMT
Yeah I get the rule. Your wording tricked me a bit. I don't really know whether the rule should exist or not though.
Report mesmerised February 23, 2018 4:02 PM GMT
Her points were added at the time having reviewed it though.

She lost her Semi final points from last year and had 55 points added from this year, so she went from 6135 to 6005.
Report dlarssonf February 23, 2018 4:11 PM GMT
Thanks edy and mes
Report nofx February 23, 2018 5:10 PM GMT
first time Cibu Jola ends in two sets Plain
Report nofx February 23, 2018 5:10 PM GMT
indoors tennis is the worst
Report nofx February 23, 2018 5:32 PM GMT
why is it that the only person Svito doesn't choke against is Kerber
Report GRANTCKING February 23, 2018 5:33 PM GMT
I was watching short tennis on tv a few weeks ago, reminded me of my school games, best game ever with the sponge ball, get heaps of spin on it lol
Report n88uk February 23, 2018 5:49 PM GMT
Wim not solved the Svitolina issue for Kerber then.
Report nofx February 23, 2018 5:56 PM GMT
someone making a mess in the Uytvanck market
Report GRANTCKING February 23, 2018 5:59 PM GMT

Feb 23, 2018 -- 5:49PM, n88uk wrote:


Wim not solved the Svitolina issue for Kerber then.


svito is a better version of kerber, shes just outmatched

Report edy February 23, 2018 6:00 PM GMT
outpushed
Report nofx February 23, 2018 6:04 PM GMT
both Ping and Pong's bodies falling apart yet trashing Mak-Ves 5-0
Report doridoru February 23, 2018 6:05 PM GMT
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-43153556

Another day, another gang of Asian rapist scum, when will we do something about this? erm never of course, the country destroyed by Labour traitors...
Report doridoru February 23, 2018 6:06 PM GMT
The operation identified about 700 victims in total across the Northumbria Police area, 108 in Newcastle.

The government said it would "look carefully" at Mr Spicer's 33 recommendations, which also included a need for research into the cultural background of abusers, many of whom in the case of Sanctuary were from a "predominantly Asian or British Minority Ethnic culture or background".
Report GRANTCKING February 23, 2018 6:16 PM GMT

Feb 23, 2018 -- 6:05PM, doridoru wrote:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-43153556Another day, another gang of Asian rapist scum, when will we do something about this? erm never of course, the country destroyed by Labour traitors...


Cry fecking hell

Report doridoru February 23, 2018 6:23 PM GMT
Where are the women on the streets campaigning against muslim men? erm more bothered about Trump!?!?!?!
Report GRANTCKING February 23, 2018 6:23 PM GMT
its crazy isnt it
Report nofx February 23, 2018 7:05 PM GMT
easy for one-leg and one-arm Happy
Report tof February 23, 2018 8:06 PM GMT
get in Lucas Pooey ...
Report Hamlin February 23, 2018 11:08 PM GMT
Whoa.. hold on. I haven't watched much of the Rio matches but when did they switch the umbrella boys with these local escorts.

They are even told to stand there arms back and chest out. Are these the girls that UFC/Boxing/Darts have cast out?
Report GRANTCKING February 23, 2018 11:36 PM GMT
LaughLaughLaugh yep the models are amazing
Report wisewords February 24, 2018 12:07 AM GMT
the mugger Dominic Thiem:

1.13              £6
1.20              £15
1.21              £11,276
1.22              £12,339
1.23              £41,067
1.24              £13,941
1.25             £28,401
1.26             £27,872
1.27             £102,815
1.28             £129,234
Report thepunter February 24, 2018 12:08 AM GMT
Is there a bigger mugger than thiem on tour ?
Report thepunter February 24, 2018 12:13 AM GMT
This piece of sh*t cant play more than a set,,looks almost a set-up this scenario. Cant betired, had virtually a bye last round.
Report Hamlin February 24, 2018 12:40 AM GMT
Can we expect another Fognini three setter here
Report GRANTCKING February 24, 2018 12:58 AM GMT
fognini in 2 hamlin! Grin
Report Hamlin February 24, 2018 1:05 AM GMT
He's definitely capable when he tries but goes missing too much. He's dealt with two big servers already so i'd expect him to win this.
Report GRANTCKING February 24, 2018 1:08 AM GMT
I agree, hes very talented esepcially on clay, he just needs the right mindset
Report ;[p February 24, 2018 1:11 AM GMT
foggini and right mindsetCrazy
Report ;[p February 24, 2018 1:12 AM GMT
cool odds tho seems to have bedene numbers
Report GRANTCKING February 24, 2018 1:16 AM GMT
fognini doing this very easily so far
Report Hamlin February 24, 2018 1:22 AM GMT
I'd be laying off for profit if you've gone for 2-0 though, he could implode second set. He does look effortless right now though.
Report GRANTCKING February 24, 2018 1:23 AM GMT
yeh I just went for the straight up match betting instead of 2-0
Report ;[p February 24, 2018 1:37 AM GMT
6-0 h2h lost only 2 sets but foggy is such big mug
Report GRANTCKING February 24, 2018 1:53 AM GMT
classic fognin collapso, what a ****
Report Hamlin February 24, 2018 1:53 AM GMT
Implosion happened early
Report wisewords February 24, 2018 1:58 AM GMT
Fabio set 1:

1.03             £459
1.04             £4
1.05             £77
1.06             £549
1.07             £35
1.08             £27
1.09             £1,389
Report ;[p February 24, 2018 2:08 AM GMT
alpine skiing olympic. svergies now
Report ;[p February 24, 2018 2:11 AM GMT
svergies faves but france seems decend odds 8.2
Report ;[p February 24, 2018 2:13 AM GMT
svergies nearly owned in 1st round
Report Hamlin February 24, 2018 2:17 AM GMT
You in trouble here Grant
Report GRANTCKING February 24, 2018 11:28 AM GMT

Feb 24, 2018 -- 2:17AM, Hamlin wrote:


You in trouble here Grant


Grin I was, went to bed after set 1 on tilt, amazed ive woken up to clover, who knew fognini had fight in him!

Report edy February 24, 2018 11:43 AM GMT
On tilt just because he missed multiple chances for the double break, failed to serve for the set after having had strolled through 3 of his 4 service games before that, missed set points Bedene's serve and committed his first two double faults of the match in an overall miserable tiebreak?
Report Hamlin February 24, 2018 12:16 PM GMT
Fog's games are always worth staying up to watch.
Report nofx February 24, 2018 3:03 PM GMT

edy • February 24, 2018 11:33 AM GMT
Will this upcoming 125k IW give the winner a main draw WC?


was thinking the same thing

just qualifying for it has Sara; Yafan; Amanda; Chica; anotherbarbora; anothervera


guerilla marketing to become full Slam Excited

Report nofx February 24, 2018 3:04 PM GMT
players MD list is not that glamorous though
Report edy February 24, 2018 3:54 PM GMT
iirc n88 said that other California 125k and Challenger a few weeks ago (the ones won by Collins Fritz) would reward players with IW wild cards. That's why I wondered if these ones even called IW would too
Report edy February 24, 2018 3:54 PM GMT
*Collins and Fritz respectively
Report mesmerised February 24, 2018 3:57 PM GMT
Kasatkina said her legs are like bubbles to her coach, not even sure what that means.
Report nofx February 24, 2018 4:07 PM GMT
wondered because it would be weird to not have the winner of this, held at the same venue, the day after
only just read about these Oracle series when looking up the players next week though
Report nofx February 24, 2018 4:08 PM GMT
I hate finals Cry
Report nofx February 24, 2018 4:16 PM GMT
think bubble legs is probably a bad thing
Report nofx February 24, 2018 4:19 PM GMT
mr lumpy wants to back 950/1 with 500k
Report nofx February 24, 2018 4:22 PM GMT
well. that sucked
Report mesmerised February 24, 2018 4:26 PM GMT
Can't believe how bad she played, looked, played and sounded nervous the whole time, given how high a percentage player she is, she missed so much.
Report mesmerised February 24, 2018 4:30 PM GMT
lol at that Irish dude mentioning the Rugby resultLaugh
Report mesmerised February 24, 2018 4:44 PM GMT
If Elina's voice was any deeper she'd be called Elliot.
Report tof February 24, 2018 5:05 PM GMT
.
Report mesmerised February 24, 2018 5:07 PM GMT
There's not much I can do with that dot, tof, I need something more to go on to get a conversation going.
Report tof February 24, 2018 7:16 PM GMT
Laugh
Report tof February 24, 2018 8:27 PM GMT
love those line sweeper devices used in Rio ...
Report Hamlin February 24, 2018 9:32 PM GMT
Can Verdasco keep his form going or is the Fog of War's red mist going to be too much?
Report Hamlin February 24, 2018 10:01 PM GMT
Sportsbook odds not reacting at all to that early break.
Report mouse trap February 24, 2018 10:19 PM GMT
Fabio hates Rio and it shows
Report Hamlin February 24, 2018 10:43 PM GMT
This is horrible tennis
Report edy February 25, 2018 11:11 AM GMT
Some drama

http://www.tennisforum.com/12-general-messages/1299622-drama-suwei-hsieh-makes-fitness-trainer-homeless-make-threat-towards-shushu-peng.html

From Weibo of Shuai

'Very sad, Me and Su wei had some arguments, what happened is still very blur. The reason was because of the fitness coach. Just like Hlavackova. We split because of Coach Ma, I don't want anymore of this. It is very painful for me.

'Last year it was you @SuweiHsiehWeibo who came to me to say lets hire a fitness trainer together, you keep nagging me introducing Yoko to us hoping we hire her together. After it was agreed we were going to start in Melbourne, if we can continue to work together , we continue. At Sydney Yoko and me confirmed with no problem. She and me and you agree for the first half of the year schedule. YOU KNOW ALL OF THIS! Everything started smoothly, but before the day to the start of Australian Open she got kicked out by you with no where to go! She ran to Doctor Huang asking if she can live with us or she has no where else to live. We were so puzzled and didn't know what happened, she came to live with us. There wasn't a problem. After the Australian Open you again demands she MUST follow you, and SHE IS NOT ALLOWED TO FOLLOW ME. But me and her didn't want to end our partnership!!!. So you used Doubles to threaten me, IF SHE STILL WORKING WITH BOTH OF US OR SHE WORKS WITH ME ONLY, YOU WONT PLAY WITH DOUBLES WITH ME!!! IF I LIED, YOU CAN ASK YOKO HERSELF TO COME OUT AND SAY THE TRUTH!!!

Su Wei ' Thanks for taking my only fitness trainer. Bye bye'

Wow no wonder they were so cold to each other in Dubai, won't even do the hand motion after points. Su wei is such a backstabbing entitled witch. She used to do the same thing to Chan sisters in rent situations. She's so manipulative using Doubles as an excuse to make them hire a fitness coach, so she can benefit in the end than cut her friend and threaten her Most people are taking Shushu's side because she's always emotional and nice to everyone. Su wei is fake nice and really selfish a lot of the time.
Report tof February 26, 2018 6:12 AM GMT

Feb 25, 2018 -- 11:11AM, edy wrote:


Some dramahttp://www.tennisforum.com/12-general-messages/1299622-drama-suwei-hsie... Weibo of Shuai'Very sad, Me and Su wei had some arguments, what happened is still very blur. The reason was because of the fitness coach. Just like Hlavackova. We split because of Coach Ma, I don't want anymore of this. It is very painful for me.'Last year it was you @SuweiHsiehWeibo who came to me to say lets hire a fitness trainer together, you keep nagging me introducing Yoko to us hoping we hire her together. After it was agreed we were going to start in Melbourne, if we can continue to work together , we continue. At Sydney Yoko and me confirmed with no problem. She and me and you agree for the first half of the year schedule. YOU KNOW ALL OF THIS! Everything started smoothly, but before the day to the start of Australian Open she got kicked out by you with no where to go! She ran to Doctor Huang asking if she can live with us or she has no where else to live. We were so puzzled and didn't know what happened, she came to live with us. There wasn't a problem. After the Australian Open you again demands she MUST follow you, and SHE IS NOT ALLOWED TO FOLLOW ME. But me and her didn't want to end our partnership!!!. So you used Doubles to threaten me, IF SHE STILL WORKING WITH BOTH OF US OR SHE WORKS WITH ME ONLY, YOU WONT PLAY WITH DOUBLES WITH ME!!! IF I LIED, YOU CAN ASK YOKO HERSELF TO COME OUT AND SAY THE TRUTH!!!Su Wei ' Thanks for taking my only fitness trainer. Bye bye'Wow no wonder they were so cold to each other in Dubai, won't even do the hand motion after points. Su wei is such a backstabbing entitled witch. She used to do the same thing to Chan sisters in rent situations. She's so manipulative using Doubles as an excuse to make them hire a fitness coach, so she can benefit in the end than cut her friend and threaten her Most people are taking Shushu's side because she's always emotional and nice to everyone. Su wei is fake nice and really selfish a lot of the time.


LaughLaughLaughLaugh

Report tof February 26, 2018 6:13 AM GMT
I fink you shud carry this one over edy ...to the new fred terday ...
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