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Report caramba September 29, 2017 12:06 PM BST
AMG knows Alona better than Bradman does I'm sure. But that OCC was not good behavior from Alona. AMG might need to have a Sumyk talk with her and put Osty on the naughty step, but that doesn't have to be in public.
Report caramba September 29, 2017 12:06 PM BST
classic Courtney
Report mesmerised September 29, 2017 12:08 PM BST
9 matches in 10 days is a lot esp when the last 5 were 3 sets, I think the tired excuse was legitmate tbh.

I think AMG is actually the sort of person Penko needs which is probably why they're still together and mostly working well, she's not a yes woman, seems quite stern, Penko knows she needs someone like that to kick her ar$e into gear. Would be surprised if that ended.
Report mesmerised September 29, 2017 12:09 PM BST
Does Puntinseva still work with the coach she humilated on court ?
Report caramba September 29, 2017 12:09 PM BST
is her boyfriend, no?
Report n88uk September 29, 2017 12:09 PM BST
It wasn't offensive though, it was more childish. Sumyk was literally told to fuck off at times. I dunno why she called her in first place though as clearly she had checked out and wasn't going to listen to anything, so why bother?
Report mesmerised September 29, 2017 12:10 PM BST
is it ? never knew
Report Angela Rebecchi September 29, 2017 12:10 PM BST
Comfort blanket.
Report mesmerised September 29, 2017 12:10 PM BST
how did you get that past the swear filter n88Shocked
Report n88uk September 29, 2017 12:11 PM BST

Sep 29, 2017 -- 6:08AM, mesmerised wrote:


9 matches in 10 days is a lot esp when the last 5 were 3 sets, I think the tired excuse was legitmate tbh.I think AMG is actually the sort of person Penko needs which is probably why they're still together and mostly working well, she's not a yes woman, seems quite stern, Penko knows she needs someone like that to kick her ar$e into gear. Would be surprised if that ended.


It will defo end sooner or later imo, but nothing to do with this. At some point Osty will just move on needing different things. Osty still has a very junior set up in her team, 98% of players move on that from that eventually.

Report caramba September 29, 2017 12:11 PM BST
maybe not offensive, but disrespectful.
I also think AMG is good for her.
Report n88uk September 29, 2017 12:14 PM BST
Osty also wants someone to kick her in the arse I think, I don't think she actually wants a "yes man", I think she generally wants someone to tell her it as it is (though on days like today doesn't really matter if there's nothing there).

But Osty will move on as she just needs a more professional team. Like atm Osty doesn't work with AMG that much really, it's not like AMG is with her in Latvia, she's just at tournaments, that's not that often when you think about it, and it's not a great setup really (who knows what off season plan is though). She badly needs someone to help with serve, no real sign of that happening right now, and she's clearly fully aware of this too.
Report Angela Rebecchi September 29, 2017 12:14 PM BST
AMG is great, Oosty gets very grumpy and rude when she's tired or losing. AMG should put her in her place now.
Report n88uk September 29, 2017 12:16 PM BST
At some point someone will get in her managers ear and say I can do this and that for Osty and that's how it will work. She will be one of the most desirable players to work with on tour so you will get this as attaching yourself to someone like this has a lot of upside (look at what AMG gained from it for example).
Report n88uk September 29, 2017 12:17 PM BST
Btw since when did Beijing put these sorta matches on first Saturday?

This is tomorrow's OOP:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK4yinfWsAEBx9O.jpg

Norm they put a few garbage matches on Saturday at most?
Report mesmerised September 29, 2017 12:18 PM BST
Osty also wants someone to kick her in the arse I think, I don't think she actually wants a "yes man", I think she generally wants someone to tell her it as it is (though on days like today doesn't really matter if there's nothing there).

that's what I said above at 12:08, don't know who'd she's hire if AMG left though.

also, always have said that OCC should be banned anyway, it's entertaining for us, but if they actually want parity with the men it should end, it's meant to be an individual sport, and you never really see the likes of Serena using it because she wants to be seen in the same light as the men, independant.
Report n88uk September 29, 2017 12:21 PM BST
I was responding to your post lol. There's plenty of coaches out there. Hard to just pluck a name out of thin air, but many of the top names around would hardly let her get away with bs.

I hate OCC too, I don't think it gives a good representation of players in general because too often players are only calling it it when in a bad mood in first place thus doesn't paint them in a good light.
Report n88uk September 29, 2017 12:22 PM BST
Like you think how many of WTA's top names have been made to look utter mugs by OCC at some point, it's hardly what you want.
Report mesmerised September 29, 2017 12:27 PM BST
If I was a coach, I'd only agree to work with someone on the basis we'd have no OCC, esp as you're mic'd up, trying to work things out for yourself in the heat of the moment is meant to be character building, OCC is basically just mollycoddling a player over the line, they need to think for themselves.
Report n88uk September 29, 2017 12:37 PM BST
There is defo times players use it to their benefit. Stuff like today though, what was the point, when Osty called it in 2nd set she had no interest in the match anymore, wtf was the point of calling the coach, to vent? But she barely did that, she only said about 3 words.
Report caramba September 29, 2017 12:48 PM BST
Aga must be seething that she couldn't play Wuhan this year. She would have loved to vulture this. Barty vs Garcia/Sakkari final ffs.
Report mesmerised September 29, 2017 12:50 PM BST
Would not be surprised if the final is only watched by 10% of the capacity.
Report n88uk September 29, 2017 12:55 PM BST
José Morgado‏Verified account @josemorgado  4m4 minutes ago
Dudi Sela retired mid match today in Shenzhen just before the start of the Yom Kippur, one of the most important days in Judaism.

José Morgado‏Verified account @josemorgado  4m4 minutes ago
Dudi asked to play earlier, didn't get that request.

Jewish can't work or eat during the Yom Kippur
Report n88uk September 29, 2017 12:55 PM BST

Sep 29, 2017 -- 6:48AM, caramba wrote:


Aga must be seething that she couldn't play Wuhan this year. She would have loved to vulture this. Barty vs Garcia/Sakkari final ffs.


Aga did play? Barty beat her?

Report n88uk September 29, 2017 12:56 PM BST

Sep 29, 2017 -- 6:50AM, mesmerised wrote:


Would not be surprised if the final is only watched by 10% of the capacity.


It will be of course. I genuinely don't think I've ever seen a good crowd in Wuhan, this event is bs really.

Report nofx September 29, 2017 12:57 PM BST

Sep 29, 2017 -- 6:55AM, n88uk wrote:


José Morgado‏Verified account @josemorgado  4m4 minutes ago Dudi Sela retired mid match today in Shenzhen just before the start of the Yom Kippur, one of the most important days in Judaism.José Morgado‏Verified account @josemorgado  4m4 minutes ago Dudi asked to play earlier, didn't get that request.  Jewish can't work or eat during the Yom Kippur


It's not exactly like you're forced to by your government or tennis federation though

Report caramba September 29, 2017 12:58 PM BST
oh. that was last week she withdrew? I haven't been keeping up during Asian swing.
Report nofx September 29, 2017 12:58 PM BST
China swing is the lamest
Report nofx September 29, 2017 1:01 PM BST
also Jose is wrong because Yom Kippur starts at sunset today which is still hours away
Report edy September 29, 2017 1:03 PM BST

Sep 29, 2017 -- 6:55AM, n88uk wrote:


José Morgado‏Verified account @josemorgado  4m4 minutes ago Dudi Sela retired mid match today in Shenzhen just before the start of the Yom Kippur, one of the most important days in Judaism.José Morgado‏Verified account @josemorgado  4m4 minutes ago Dudi asked to play earlier, didn't get that request.  Jewish can't work or eat during the Yom Kippur


Jews don't even believe in hell punishment. Should just ignore these things. What's their God gonna do?

Report caramba September 29, 2017 1:03 PM BST
sunset in Israel or sunset of wherever you happen to be on day of Yom Kippur?
Report nofx September 29, 2017 1:05 PM BST
was sure they have to observe Jerusalem time but now I'm not sure because like say NY people for instance are pretty liberal with these things. Jews they do what want like and all that
Report n88uk September 29, 2017 1:05 PM BST

Sep 29, 2017 -- 6:58AM, caramba wrote:


oh. that was last week she withdrew? I haven't been keeping up during Asian swing.


Yes Radwanska played and lost to Barty this week in about R3.

Report nofx September 29, 2017 1:06 PM BST
that's ^ tongue in cheek btw. just in case*
Report n88uk September 29, 2017 1:06 PM BST

Sep 29, 2017 -- 6:58AM, nofx wrote:


China swing is the lamest


Beijing at least is a credible event. Crowds norm good in Beijing, it has bit of prestige and feeling to it. Wuhan is the definition of a soulless event, no history, no prestige, no atmosphere, nothing.

Report nofx September 29, 2017 1:07 PM BST
in case any drifter about eager to report my goyim ass
Report nofx September 29, 2017 1:07 PM BST
drifters
Report nofx September 29, 2017 1:08 PM BST
oh I just hate on all Asian tennis because of their time zone situation
Report nofx September 29, 2017 1:08 PM BST
and their air quality
Report caramba September 29, 2017 1:09 PM BST
Dubai/Doha is ok.
Report nofx September 29, 2017 1:09 PM BST
don't really consider that Asia
Report nofx September 29, 2017 1:10 PM BST
but there they hate women so they can fuck off all the same or more so
Report caramba September 29, 2017 1:11 PM BST
for me it's more about time of the season than time zone I think. I have no problems staying up for Aussie swing. Players being fresh and motivated and crowds being hot probably helps though.
Report n88uk September 29, 2017 1:12 PM BST
WTA Insider‏Verified account @WTA_insider  3m3 minutes ago
Ostapenko says she was struggling with energy. Didn’t have time to recover after her emotional midnight finish. Felt it on practice court.
Report nofx September 29, 2017 1:13 PM BST
sure but Aus I do stay up for. Asia is rough because it requires getting up or else you're still awake and only start at 4/5 AM which i just don't find doable any more
Report nofx September 29, 2017 1:14 PM BST
old age is the worst
Report n88uk September 29, 2017 1:14 PM BST

Sep 29, 2017 -- 7:11AM, caramba wrote:


for me it's more about time of the season than time zone I think. I have no problems staying up for Aussie swing. Players being fresh and motivated and crowds being hot probably helps though.


I agree with this 100%. I am always 100% up for Aussie swing and ready for it. I think I said before but during Asian swing it's harder to devote your entire time to it, there feels more going on this time of year, and the time zone is super horrible for Europeans.

For players it depends who you are really, this time of year is always a question of who has the most gas in the tank. This year not many players feel totally spent, likely because the # of matches played across players is quite low this year as they've all had bad stretches in the year. Some years like half the top 10 are done by this time of the year.

Report nofx September 29, 2017 1:16 PM BST
sleeping in the day - into the evening - is alright. to start sleep in the evening is almost impossible for me personally
Report n88uk September 29, 2017 1:17 PM BST
I think AO starting around midnight (1am for you) helps too. This feels an easier start than these starts at like 3-4-5am. Often then the play isn't finishing until 3-4-5pm, this a horrible schedule which allows you to do virtually nothing else.

AO you can norm go to bed by midday and be back up like 6pm and feel like you've not missed much.
Report n88uk September 29, 2017 1:17 PM BST
Nofx said something similar I see.
Report mesmerised September 29, 2017 1:20 PM BST
this season has gone quick in general, Fedal final was 8 months ago already, which means another 4 months til SoranaGOAT wins her maiden slam. Every cloud.
Report nofx September 29, 2017 1:25 PM BST
Auckland-slam is as good as place to start your run as any
Report nofx September 29, 2017 1:38 PM BST
Caeroflot experiencing mild turbulence
Report caramba September 29, 2017 1:47 PM BST
How long has Thomas Johansson coached Sakkari?
Report n88uk September 29, 2017 1:51 PM BST
Since at least USO if not before.
Report caramba September 29, 2017 2:59 PM BST
rain in Chengdu three points from GSM.
Report wisewords September 29, 2017 4:05 PM BST

Sep 29, 2017 -- 6:55AM, n88uk wrote:


José Morgado‏Verified account @josemorgado  4m4 minutes ago Dudi Sela retired mid match today in Shenzhen just before the start of the Yom Kippur, one of the most important days in Judaism.José Morgado‏Verified account @josemorgado  4m4 minutes ago Dudi asked to play earlier, didn't get that request.  Jewish can't work or eat during the Yom Kippur


That must have been an absolute nightmare for people betting on it. Dudi lost the 1st set, won the 2nd set and broken Dog to start the 3rd and then retired!

Report wisewords September 30, 2017 6:44 AM BST
LETS GO COOL NAOMI.
Report tof September 30, 2017 8:42 AM BST
.
Report tof September 30, 2017 8:46 AM BST
Maria's revangeè terday .... in China best served sweet & sour ...
Report caramba September 30, 2017 1:10 PM BST
Beijing crowd loves Masha.
Report caramba September 30, 2017 1:25 PM BST
even cheering df's from Sevastova.
Report tof September 30, 2017 2:44 PM BST
Maria Maria  !!
Report n88uk September 30, 2017 2:49 PM BST
Barty vs Garcia = pure chokefest.
Report caramba September 30, 2017 3:24 PM BST
Garcia won the Wuhan Slam.
Report wisewords September 30, 2017 3:36 PM BST
anyone know how low Barty today?
Report edy September 30, 2017 3:40 PM BST
Nice shot, Maria.
Report wisewords September 30, 2017 3:43 PM BST
Sharapova:

1.02              £1,728
1.03             £14,618
1.04             £61,087
1.05             £12,351
1.06             £56,280
1.07              £50,494
1.08             £20,063
Report caramba September 30, 2017 3:47 PM BST
*** petition to ban Sevastova to enter same tournaments as Sharapova ***
Report edy September 30, 2017 3:48 PM BST
Have you ordered her new book yet?
Report caramba September 30, 2017 3:49 PM BST
no
Report edy September 30, 2017 3:50 PM BST
1.02 never loses, innit?

Did you make enough Wettquotens from this match to be able to buy her new book?
Report caramba September 30, 2017 3:50 PM BST
Fighterpova Love
Report mouse trap September 30, 2017 3:50 PM BST
adrenaline overload
Report wisewords September 30, 2017 3:51 PM BST
anyone know how low these players traded today:

Barty
Diyas
Gibbs

well done Sharapova...
Report caramba September 30, 2017 3:51 PM BST
yes Excited
Report caramba September 30, 2017 3:52 PM BST
time the bigger issue when it comes to reading books though.
Report mouse trap September 30, 2017 3:57 PM BST

Sep 30, 2017 -- 9:50AM, caramba wrote:


Fighterpova


and also monstrous muggerpova today
the end saved me from a loss of the month, so thank you Masha for keeping your eyes on the target till the last ball is played no matter what muggery you get involved in along the way

Report edy September 30, 2017 5:08 PM BST
If Doctor Muggerpova wasn't around, Mrs. Fighterpova would never be needed.
Report mouse trap October 1, 2017 7:42 AM BST
commentator: "Agnesia Radwanska", at least 3 times so far, and we are only one game into the match CryCryCry
Report mouse trap October 1, 2017 7:47 AM BST
I know she dropped from the top 10 and plays poorly, but she doesn't deserve this treatment
Report nofx October 1, 2017 10:29 AM BST
is it today you make good on that one-two-one, mouse?
Report nofx October 1, 2017 10:54 AM BST
forum broke again
Report nofx October 1, 2017 10:54 AM BST
..no updates
Report bobweenit October 1, 2017 11:03 AM BST
Petko goat mode Cool
Report nofx October 1, 2017 11:05 AM BST
v Kiki No-ankles
Report bobweenit October 1, 2017 11:08 AM BST
Petko dance Grin
Report nofx October 1, 2017 11:09 AM BST
yea Petkodance the one good thing to happen in China tour
Report nofx October 1, 2017 11:30 AM BST
Alice http://www.flashscore.com/match/8vkvGoQ8/#point-by-point;2
Report nofx October 1, 2017 12:18 PM BST
mugopolov *5-1 30-15
Report n88uk October 1, 2017 2:31 PM BST
What a mug Konta.
Report DStyle October 1, 2017 3:00 PM BST
has konta had her coach on?

she needs some advice here. these are miserable tactics against hackelescu.
Report n88uk October 1, 2017 3:03 PM BST
I assume Fissette is there, not really being paying attention much if I'm honest.
Report DStyle October 1, 2017 3:04 PM BST
only been watching since the beginning of the 2nd.

the execution is poor from here, and there may be reasons for that, but the approach is just plain idiotic.
Report DStyle October 1, 2017 3:05 PM BST
*from her
Report n88uk October 1, 2017 3:05 PM BST
Well it's over now anyway, she's not coming back from this.
Report morrillo October 1, 2017 3:14 PM BST

Oct 1, 2017 -- 5:30AM, nofx wrote:


Alice http://www.flashscore.com/match/8vkvGoQ8/#point-by-point;2


Those Chinese players are pure garbage. Duan and Q. Wang are only ok. The rest are shiite

Report morrillo October 1, 2017 3:14 PM BST
Goatelescu.
Report tof October 2, 2017 9:55 AM BST
kamaaan Dodgers...
Report tof October 2, 2017 10:45 AM BST
all hail Mchale ...
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