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Report wisewords September 11, 2017 12:04 AM BST
This Head of US Tennis woman doesn't ever come across well when I see her making speeches. She always stumbles over her words.
Report wisewords September 11, 2017 12:06 AM BST
Kevin hijacking his own runners up speech interview back from this wretched woman. Good work Kev.
Report edy September 11, 2017 12:06 AM BST
Skander Mansouri or Mark Verryth?
Report wisewords September 11, 2017 12:06 AM BST
"just 2 more things" lol
Report mesmerised September 11, 2017 12:07 AM BST

Sep 10, 2017 -- 6:01PM, edy wrote:


Sloane is far too black to score with large swathes of the US population. She'll need to put up about 10-15 slams before she sees some respect from them.


there is probably an element of truth in this, as much as the William's have won, if they were blonde and white they'd be a lot more poplular.

Report caramba September 11, 2017 12:07 AM BST
There's such a backstory to both the Williams sisters and Sharapova, two black sisters making it in a white sport and a Russian making the trip from Siberia to Florida at the age of 7 to make it in tennis, which helps a lot. This in compbination with them having captivating personalities on top of that makes them big stars.
Report wisewords September 11, 2017 12:08 AM BST
LOL she's making him answer more stuff now to make sure she gets her air time in.
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:08 AM BST
Nadal has more US Open's than Djokovic.
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:08 AM BST
The US ceremony is always awful. They haven't done the bragging about the money bit and sponsor brag which always comes across terribly.
Report edy September 11, 2017 12:09 AM BST
Probably because the victor of the US Open series isn't there tonight.
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:09 AM BST

Sep 10, 2017 -- 6:07PM, caramba wrote:


There's such a backstory to both the Williams sisters and Sharapova, two black sisters making it in a white sport and a Russian making the trip from Siberia to Florida at the age of 7 to make it in tennis, which helps a lot. This in compbination with them having captivating personalities on top of that makes them big stars.


They did also come at a time when simply tennis was a bigger deal though. The reality is tennis has been dwindling for years in the US even with Serena.

Report mesmerised September 11, 2017 12:10 AM BST
These American hosts are always the worst at the slams, they always seem like they're away with the fairies.

Though in Australia, the speach by the Kia sponsors after the match is the longest speech made in sports post event, remember Novak/Nadal on the verge of collapse one year because they wouldn't stop yapping.

Sue Barker does it well, concise, to the point and relatively short.
Report edy September 11, 2017 12:10 AM BST
shrink the US Open series and make sure it finishes before the NFL starts.
Report caramba September 11, 2017 12:12 AM BST
I forgot to post this for this event, ten years ago this year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRb784scZxQ
Report mesmerised September 11, 2017 12:13 AM BST
Nobody outside of the US really gives much of a s*** about NFL, it's popular in pockets, but it's not really massive anywhere else, it sells out Wembley because of the sheer number of tourists and American's there.
Report edy September 11, 2017 12:13 AM BST
Tio Toni crying in the locker room.
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:13 AM BST
The 1980 and 1981 tournaments claimed the highest household TV ratings to date, with 5.8% of all U.S. households tuning in per telecast.  In comparison, the 1999 U.S. Open telecasts drew just 3.5% of all U.S. households.  By 2007, the average rating had decreased to 1.7%.

Reckon this is down to close to 1% by now.
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:13 AM BST
Tennis declined has tied in with stuff like NFL's rise.
Report caramba September 11, 2017 12:13 AM BST
will never not laugh at competitive Rafa in this.
Report tof September 11, 2017 12:14 AM BST
Rafa don't shpeak about the hurricanes people ... you numpty Laugh
Report edy September 11, 2017 12:14 AM BST
maybe so, mes, but in a discussion about tennis' decline in popularity in the US it might be a good idea to avoid having your finals on opening weekend of the NFL.
Report mesmerised September 11, 2017 12:14 AM BST

Sep 10, 2017 -- 6:13PM, n88uk wrote:


Tennis declined has tied in with stuff like NFL's rise.


yeah so has American Heavyweight boxing, boxing in gerenal.

Report tof September 11, 2017 12:14 AM BST

Sep 10, 2017 -- 5:40PM, n88uk wrote:


Vika will be way underplayed unless she plays this year by Australia.


Vikas a slut !!

Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:15 AM BST
Especially that article I quoted was written in 2008. So is talking up to 2007.

But eg. this suggests tennis has declined a whole lot more since 2007.

Kerber’s three-set win ranks as the lowest rated U.S. Open final ever and is the least-watched since at least 2000. The previous lows were a 1.1 for multiple matches and 1.6 million for last year’s women’s final.

No U.S. Open women’s final has managed a 2.0 rating sans Serena Williams since 2007, when Justine Henin‘s win over ‎Svetlana Kuznetsova had a 2.1. Each final involving Serena or her sister Venus Williams has posted at least a 2.9.
Report wisewords September 11, 2017 12:16 AM BST
Kerber three-set win was against Serena..
Report tof September 11, 2017 12:16 AM BST
only $ 3.7 mill not a Mayweather feeling no ?
Report wisewords September 11, 2017 12:16 AM BST
oh no it wasn't, nvm. it was against Pliskova.
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:17 AM BST
Yer USO lol.
Report wisewords September 11, 2017 12:17 AM BST
Sloane v Madison did good ratings for 2017. I'm sure of it.
Report wisewords September 11, 2017 12:17 AM BST
(for tennis in 2017)
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:17 AM BST
I mean obv that would bomb. How on earth did it draw less viewers than Vinci vs Pennetta though lol? Was it simply because people tuned into the latter because they'd read about Serena doing the grand slam and then realised Serena was out lol.
Report mesmerised September 11, 2017 12:18 AM BST
A lot of Italian-Americans over there
Report caramba September 11, 2017 12:18 AM BST
I don't like tennis clashing with start of NFL, but US summer season is already short as it is.
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:18 AM BST
Yer it did. 1.9 is a good rating for 2017 without Serena or someone.

Eg. Novak vs Stan only did a 1.1 last year.

I doubt Nadal-Anderson does a 1.9 today.
Report caramba September 11, 2017 12:19 AM BST
Guidos are into tennis?
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:19 AM BST

Sep 10, 2017 -- 6:18PM, caramba wrote:


I don't like tennis clashing with start of NFL, but US summer season is already short as it is.


With Wimbledon having moved a week back recently, not a lot they can do. USO is when it is because of Labour Day weekend also (similar to how AO is during Australian holiday season).

It does suck how it clashes with NFL with the juggernaut NFL has become in America though.

Report edy September 11, 2017 12:20 AM BST
Ask the NFL nicely to start a week later then.
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:20 AM BST
Yer that is what they actually need lol.
Report wisewords September 11, 2017 12:21 AM BST

Sep 10, 2017 -- 6:20PM, edy wrote:


Ask the NFL nicely to start a week later then.


NFL won't, they're the ones in control now. US Open needs to move a week back.

Report edy September 11, 2017 12:21 AM BST
but what about Tokyo 2/Hiroshima?
Report Angela Rebecchi September 11, 2017 12:22 AM BST
Rafa Aussie 2018, well done.
Report wisewords September 11, 2017 12:22 AM BST
is that your pick AR? I can't see it.
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:22 AM BST
What's amazing is how so few viewers in America is still insanely valuable. Like US Open is getting lowest ratings in the home country by a long way, yet the host broadcaster is paying the most for it by a long way.

Albeit I would like to see how much Wimbledon went for if it was actually up on offer, their rights go for way less than their true value to stay on BBC, however this is a vicious on circle as it staying on BBC is what keeps Wimbledon forever relevant.
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:24 AM BST

Sep 10, 2017 -- 6:21PM, wisewords wrote:


Sep 11, 2017 -- 12:20AM, edy wrote:Ask the NFL nicely to start a week later then.NFL won't, they're the ones in control now. US Open needs to move a week back.


Forward you mean.

You move it a week forward and there's what like 5 weeks then between Wimbledon and USO, that is getting a bit close really to have a proper build up then.

Report edy September 11, 2017 12:25 AM BST
Would they be able to find a location for at least two new tournaments in the USA though?
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:26 AM BST
Forward eats up tournaments, not need more.
Report wisewords September 11, 2017 12:26 AM BST
Yes, USO needs to start a week earlier.
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:26 AM BST
If you move it back you're clashing with NFL even more.
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:26 AM BST
They will find 2 new tournaments in Asia easy peasy I imagine, but I don't think I like it.
Report caramba September 11, 2017 12:27 AM BST
this is a surprising stat: Rafa has never made all four Slam finals in the same year (made three this year which is the first time since 2011).
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:27 AM BST
Rusedski talking about O2 being a sea of change.

Other than Zverev, those newcomers are never making the O2 again.
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:28 AM BST
And saying how great a shape tennis is in going forward. Really?
Report wisewords September 11, 2017 12:29 AM BST
Yeah, really. They value their jobs.
Report edy September 11, 2017 12:29 AM BST
Thiem, Zverev, Shapovalov, FAA seems ok to me.
Report edy September 11, 2017 12:29 AM BST
maybe even Rublev
Report wisewords September 11, 2017 12:30 AM BST
When Andy Murray retires and begins to coach Kyrgios, Kyrgios will destroy everyone. He'll be unbeatable.
Report wisewords September 11, 2017 12:30 AM BST
He schooled the US Open Champion with ease when he was healthy.
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:31 AM BST
Shapovalov seems a pure hype train to me atm.
Report wisewords September 11, 2017 12:32 AM BST
It is, but he's got potential if he can devenlop a big fuel tank.
Report GRANTCKING September 11, 2017 12:34 AM BST

Sep 10, 2017 -- 6:31PM, n88uk wrote:


Shapovalov seems a pure hype train to me atm.


agree with this

Report GRANTCKING September 11, 2017 12:34 AM BST
dont think hes all that
Report edy September 11, 2017 12:38 AM BST
Shapovalov won't be a consistent winner, but he can be up there. See him as a worst of those four too however.
Report mesmerised September 11, 2017 12:40 AM BST
London will be pretty rubbish this year, Nadal could even go out in the RR stages, he doesn't exactly have a good record there, only made 2 finals in 7 attempts.

Tickets might not even sell given some of the potential matches.
Report edy September 11, 2017 12:40 AM BST
Tickets not selling in an event on British soil? Shocked
Report Wesdag September 11, 2017 12:41 AM BST
Rafa should skip it like he did last year.

Won't do any harm.
Report wisewords September 11, 2017 12:42 AM BST

Sep 10, 2017 -- 6:40PM, mesmerised wrote:


London will be pretty rubbish this year, Nadal could even go out in the RR stages, he doesn't exactly have a good record there, only made 2 finals in 7 attempts.Tickets might not even sell given some of the potential matches.


All in Carreno Busta.

Report mesmerised September 11, 2017 12:42 AM BST
It's true, British people are the sort that would queue up to by tickets for a queue, so maybe not.

Wont know how Shapovalov's potential pans out until he starts beefing up, I quite like Karen Khachanov's chances of winning a slam. Nobody talks about him though.
Report GRANTCKING September 11, 2017 12:43 AM BST

Sep 10, 2017 -- 6:41PM, Wesdag wrote:


Rafa should skip it like he did last year.Won't do any harm.


def wont skip it, its in the only thing in tennis he hasnt won yet

Report edy September 11, 2017 12:43 AM BST
Khachanov will fill a Berdych roll at best imo.
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:43 AM BST
Tickets will defo sell with Nadal and Federer present. What will happen is Carreno-Busta vs Cilic session tickets will be getting resold for like £7.
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:44 AM BST
Tennis is still popular in London though, it would have to be spectacularly bad field to not sell. Look how Queens still does fine even if it turns to crap like this year. Most the tickets bought in advance etc., before you know who you are seeing.
Report mesmerised September 11, 2017 12:45 AM BST
Queens is in summer though and is easily accessible, O2
Report mesmerised September 11, 2017 12:45 AM BST
O2 is in cold November time and is not exactly public transport friendly.
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:46 AM BST
I still expect virtually every session to be full, maybe a few crap ones in day with a few empty seats (as tennis is big in sorta bankers environment in London but obviously they go night session as they work in the day).
Report edy September 11, 2017 12:47 AM BST
Talk about cold novembers in Britain.

Cute.
Report mesmerised September 11, 2017 12:48 AM BST
Who's looking forward to Carreno Busta v Querrey Laugh
Report GRANTCKING September 11, 2017 12:48 AM BST
cold in november my arse
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:48 AM BST
Yer no-one I will give you that. But that will never be night session anyway.
Report GRANTCKING September 11, 2017 12:49 AM BST
fecking southern fairies Laugh
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 12:50 AM BST
Yer it's never that cold realistically here. You realise how pathetic we are really when you see like Minsk and -20 and they get on with it. If it goes below about -5 here everything is finished and doesn't work.
Report wisewords September 11, 2017 12:52 AM BST

Sep 10, 2017 -- 6:48PM, mesmerised wrote:


Who's looking forward to Carreno Busta v Querrey


not me. hey mes, you need to update your Pick the Two Winners thread now that USO is over.

Report mesmerised September 11, 2017 12:53 AM BST
I'm not talking blizzards, but we were comparing tickets sales to Queens, Queens is summer time, November is about 20°c colder, or up to.
Report edy September 11, 2017 1:08 AM BST
More like comparing endless rain breaks with nice and comfortable indoor tennis.
Report jin_kazz September 11, 2017 1:12 AM BST

Sep 10, 2017 -- 6:50PM, n88uk wrote:


Yer it's never that cold realistically here. You realise how pathetic we are really when you see like Minsk and -20 and they get on with it. If it goes below about -5 here everything is finished and doesn't work.


no way there's -20 in minsk in november

also less humidity makes it not so nasty

Report caramba September 11, 2017 1:14 AM BST
Speaking of comfortable indoor tennis, the new tennis talk thread is up.
Report jin_kazz September 11, 2017 1:14 AM BST
norilsk is another thing.
Report jin_kazz September 11, 2017 1:14 AM BST
normal products cost like x20 times more in norilsk. never go to norilsk
Report wisewords September 11, 2017 1:16 AM BST
I've never been to norilsk.
Report jin_kazz September 11, 2017 1:18 AM BST
that's why u r still alive
Report n88uk September 11, 2017 1:19 AM BST

Sep 10, 2017 -- 7:12PM, jin_kazz wrote:


Sep 11, 2017 -- 12:50AM, n88uk wrote:Yer it's never that cold realistically here. You realise how pathetic we are really when you see like Minsk and -20 and they get on with it. If it goes below about -5 here everything is finished and doesn't work.no way there's -20 in minsk in novemberalso less humidity makes it not so nasty


I meant in general, not November, just when they post pics of it being like -20 on Twitter. It's never -20 here. It's pretty much never below -10 here, norm peak low is like -5.

I think coldest day ever in my lifetime is like -15.

Report edy September 11, 2017 1:19 AM BST
I just decided that I'll never go to Norilsk
Report jin_kazz September 11, 2017 1:19 AM BST
Ж)
Report edy September 11, 2017 1:21 AM BST
German wikipedia tells me foreigners, except belarussians, aren't allowed to travel to Norilsk unless they have a special permission from local authorities and the mining company.
Report jin_kazz September 11, 2017 1:22 AM BST
does any of you know this guy: https://youtu.be/P47V4SASwGc?t=135

pretty sure u don't but maybe, just curious. like his smile and want to read who is he
Report jin_kazz September 11, 2017 1:24 AM BST

Sep 10, 2017 -- 7:21PM, edy wrote:


German wikipedia tells me foreigners, except belarussians, aren't allowed to travel to Norilsk unless they have a special permission from local authorities and the mining company.


ah yeah, they had those closed cities in ussr

pretty sure it's kinda pointless now with all that internet stuff but russia still ruled by kgb so they probably just don't wanna change anything

Report n88uk September 11, 2017 1:24 AM BST
No I don't Jin. But is that Olympics. Surely find out what Olympics then nation will narrow it down a bit.
Report edy September 11, 2017 1:25 AM BST
Says they started doing it in 2001
Report jin_kazz September 11, 2017 1:27 AM BST

Sep 10, 2017 -- 7:24PM, n88uk wrote:


No I don't Jin. But is that Olympics. Surely find out what Olympics then nation will narrow it down a bit.


i'm not that interested. just thought maybe he's someone famous enough

yeah, this is the footage from OG'80 in moscow

Report tof September 13, 2017 8:10 AM BST
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Report detraveller September 13, 2017 2:04 PM BST

Sep 13, 2017 -- 2:10AM, tof wrote:


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What's up with the dots?

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