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mesmerised
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There's a hurricane coming Sloane's way

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Report GRANTCKING September 9, 2017 10:16 PM BST

Sep 9, 2017 -- 4:15PM, n88uk wrote:


Pennetta vs Vinci was pretty sh*t too.


that was the worst final ive ever seen

Report wisewords September 9, 2017 10:16 PM BST
n88uk, quite frankly, if you're an idiot if you think Sloane is "a backboard".
Report wisewords September 9, 2017 10:16 PM BST
LETS GO SLOANE!
Report GRANTCKING September 9, 2017 10:17 PM BST
sloane isnt just a blocker, she can hit winners, agree with wisey baby
Report wisewords September 9, 2017 10:17 PM BST
lets go Sloane, lets go!
Report GRANTCKING September 9, 2017 10:18 PM BST
lmao bagel point
Report wisewords September 9, 2017 10:18 PM BST
and we're here, finally. we started with 128 women. 2 remain. CHAMPIONSHIP POINT.
Report n88uk September 9, 2017 10:18 PM BST
What has won Stephens this match, her winners or her ability to be a backboard?
Report DStyle September 9, 2017 10:18 PM BST
true n88, but to give sloane her dues, a 10:5 winner ue stat, is pretty exceptional. and i'd say that winner count seems low, certainly loads more if you count shots that have produced forced errors.
Report caramba September 9, 2017 10:18 PM BST
How many more Slams for Sloane?
Report wisewords September 9, 2017 10:18 PM BST

Sep 9, 2017 -- 4:18PM, DStyle wrote:


true n88, but to give sloane her dues, a 10:5 winner ue stat, is pretty exceptional. and i'd say that winner count seems low, certainly loads more if you count shots that have produced forced errors.


thank you.

Report wisewords September 9, 2017 10:19 PM BST
LETS GO SLOANE!
Report Journeyman September 9, 2017 10:19 PM BST
If you feel that your chances to achieve your dreams get knifed by injury every fckin time, that's inevitably going to spill out in your level and body language.
Report n88uk September 9, 2017 10:19 PM BST

Sep 9, 2017 -- 4:18PM, caramba wrote:


How many more Slams for Sloane?


0-1 probably.

Report aaronh September 9, 2017 10:19 PM BST

Sep 9, 2017 -- 4:14PM, GRANTCKING wrote:


Sep  9, 2017 -- 10:14PM, mesmerised wrote:What a crap final, hope the men's is better.will be 3-0 rafa in a similar beatdown


Rafa will similarly push his bashing opponent til they go insane too

Silly

Report DStyle September 9, 2017 10:19 PM BST
n88uk 09 Sep 17 22:18 
What has won Stephens this match, her winners or her ability to be a backboard?


both really. there's surely a synergy there.
Report mesmerised September 9, 2017 10:20 PM BST
We've had 2 ball bashers in one semi, a pusher and a 38 year old in the other - wta

We've had #19 ranked unspectacular no mark v #32 ranked servebot in one semi and an old GOAT v a very tired delpo in the other.

It's been a terrible slam, Thiem v Delpo was probably the highlight just for the comeback and atmosphere and even then the first 2 sets were a non event.
Report n88uk September 9, 2017 10:21 PM BST
Her main winning play in effect is putting balls to depth down the middle of the court. It's safe, hence why it's smart. If Keys hit shots like that last one that's too good (at deuce), but it's not a winning play for Keys because she can't do that most of the time.
Report DStyle September 9, 2017 10:21 PM BST
completely agree mes. it's been utter sh1te.
Report wisewords September 9, 2017 10:21 PM BST
COME ON SLOANE! THIS TIME!
Report aaronh September 9, 2017 10:21 PM BST
don't know which way the stats are meant to be but

on Sloane's side it is 10 forced errors each on the scoreboard now
Report caramba September 9, 2017 10:21 PM BST
Thiem vs Delpo and Masha vs Halep, but I'm probably biased for that one, are the only highlights of this event. Poor Slam indeed.
Report wisewords September 9, 2017 10:22 PM BST
BEST COAST! Love
Report DStyle September 9, 2017 10:22 PM BST
but, sloane has played very well.
Report aaronh September 9, 2017 10:22 PM BST
awwww
Report caramba September 9, 2017 10:22 PM BST
longest post-match hug ever
Report wisewords September 9, 2017 10:22 PM BST
Sloane you are amazing.
Report DStyle September 9, 2017 10:22 PM BST
if the organisers hadn't given the drug cheat a wildcard, and put someone appropriate in Murray's spot, it may have been better.
Report caramba September 9, 2017 10:22 PM BST
the event has ended
Report detraveller September 9, 2017 10:23 PM BST
closed
Report mafeking September 9, 2017 10:23 PM BST
well in the frame for the most woeful effort by a strong favourite in a GS final ever surely. can remember juan carlos ferrero losing the first 2 sets something like 1 and 2 when a massive favourite against albert costa but not much else
Report Angela Rebecchi September 9, 2017 10:23 PM BST
Class from Sloane, so composed. Lovely to see the hug at the end. Very profitable that too. Cool
Report n88uk September 9, 2017 10:23 PM BST

Sep 9, 2017 -- 4:21PM, aaronh wrote:


don't know which way the stats are meant to be but on Sloane's side it is 10 forced errors each on the scoreboard now


Stephens won 60 points. I think 30 ue Keys, 10 winners. Rest = missed 1st serves + forced errors.

Report stroodle September 9, 2017 10:23 PM BST
SloaneLoveYou keep knocking them out kid, well done wise
Report johnnythebull September 9, 2017 10:24 PM BST
feel sorry for maddy..obv not 100% physically
but fair play to Sloane..girl is talented
got an edge about her
Report wisewords September 9, 2017 10:25 PM BST

Sep 9, 2017 -- 4:23PM, stroodle wrote:


SloaneYou keep knocking them out kid, well done wise


thanks buddy. what a ride Happy

Report n88uk September 9, 2017 10:25 PM BST

Sep 9, 2017 -- 4:20PM, mesmerised wrote:


We've had 2 ball bashers in one semi, a pusher and a 38 year old in the other - wtaWe've had #19 ranked unspectacular no mark v #32 ranked servebot in one semi and an old GOAT v a very tired delpo in the other.It's been a terrible slam, Thiem v Delpo was probably the highlight just for the comeback and atmosphere and even then the first 2 sets were a non event.


It's been a crap slam yer. Depends a bit on perspective I guess as some people, ie. Americans like all American semi's, but it was bit meh really. Stephens vs Venus was overhyped beyond proportion too. It was a crap match for 2 and a half sets, but because the end was good it's hyped as a good match now, it really wasn't.

Tomorrow likely to be more crap.

Report n88uk September 9, 2017 10:26 PM BST

Sep 9, 2017 -- 4:23PM, mafeking wrote:


well in the frame for the most woeful effort by a strong favourite in a GS final ever surely. can remember juan carlos ferrero losing the first 2 sets something like 1 and 2 when a massive favourite against albert costa but not much else


Doesn't beat Lisicki's at Wimbledon in 2013 for me.

Report bobweenit September 9, 2017 10:26 PM BST
best slam 4 a long time! punting wise 4 me thats all that concerns me couldnt give a fook about the tennis my profit is what makes it good or notCool
Report GRANTCKING September 9, 2017 10:27 PM BST
30 UEs in 15 games lmao
Report aaronh September 9, 2017 10:28 PM BST
UEs on their own is a meaningless stat
Report aaronh September 9, 2017 10:28 PM BST
18 winners/30 UE

-12
Report bobweenit September 9, 2017 10:29 PM BST
the ranger has attractive qualities
Report bobweenit September 9, 2017 10:29 PM BST
wonder what her head is like Confused
Report aaronh September 9, 2017 10:29 PM BST
Ben Rothenberg‏Verified account @BenRothenberg  24m24 minutes ago
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In our interview post-QF, I mentioned to Sloane that she may be four days from winning a Slam.

Her response? "****g hell."

6-3, 3-0.
Report Journeyman September 9, 2017 10:29 PM BST
This is classy behaviour from madison here. Inside she'll be wanting to be miles away
Report n88uk September 9, 2017 10:29 PM BST
I don't get what Keys does in practice. Like the inability to construct a point at a basic level is mind boggling to me. This was on the biggest stage, but she does this all the time, she did the exact same thing at USO last year. It's like she's just told go on court and play your game and you will win (a pet peeve of mine as you know), but surely they can't be that naive. There is zero improvement to this side of her game at all.
Report mafeking September 9, 2017 10:30 PM BST
major bottle job from lisicki obviously but she did show some fight in the last few games
Report bobweenit September 9, 2017 10:30 PM BST
Laugh
Report Angela Rebecchi September 9, 2017 10:30 PM BST

Sep 9, 2017 -- 4:23PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:


Class from Sloane, so composed. Lovely to see the hug at the end. Very profitable that too.


Also lovely to see them chatting now here at the end.

Report aaronh September 9, 2017 10:30 PM BST

Sep 9, 2017 -- 4:29PM, Journeyman wrote:


This is classy behaviour from madison here. Inside she'll be wanting to be miles away


will be happy for her great pal even if she did absolutely stink it up tonight

Report n88uk September 9, 2017 10:31 PM BST
Yer but is pointless at 6-1, 5-1. It was so bad up to that point it was comical. Keys was just outplayed here, but she didn't play like a 200 ranked hacker, Sabine did.
Report aaronh September 9, 2017 10:31 PM BST
Sloane up to 17th now
Report detraveller September 9, 2017 10:33 PM BST
Wtf is up with all those flags
Report aaronh September 9, 2017 10:33 PM BST
cough up the 40k for Tornado, Katrina
Report edy September 9, 2017 10:34 PM BST
Is the woman in the red jacket Madison's mother?
Report Angela Rebecchi September 9, 2017 10:34 PM BST
Sloane and Madison two great people, this is nice to see.
Report aaronh September 9, 2017 10:35 PM BST
https://twitter.com/SloaneStephens/status/854358904360247298


,
Report Angela Rebecchi September 9, 2017 10:36 PM BST

Sep 9, 2017 -- 4:35PM, aaronh wrote:


https://twitter.com/SloaneStephens/status/854358904360247298,


Quite incredible that.

Report bobweenit September 9, 2017 10:37 PM BST
not really she was always very good recovered from injury and came back it's what they do
Report bobweenit September 9, 2017 10:37 PM BST
mage a slam final already and the tournie was wide open without mamma
Report mesmerised September 9, 2017 10:37 PM BST
#47, #10, #43, #33, #17, #9, #16

Ranked players Sloane beat.
Report n88uk September 9, 2017 10:39 PM BST
Most the top players are bad anyway.
Report bobweenit September 9, 2017 10:39 PM BST
div 2 player what a mug coach
Report n88uk September 9, 2017 10:40 PM BST
Given about half the top 10 lost within 2 rounds, she actually beat reasonable players, given she was facing good players from early on.
Report aaronh September 9, 2017 10:41 PM BST
lol Sloane
Report bobweenit September 9, 2017 10:42 PM BST
well played Sloane
Report aaronh September 9, 2017 10:44 PM BST
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For me the only interesting thing about Serena being out is who has the composure to win slams. The actual level of tennis needed to do it

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Is painfully low right now but it is super interesting to see that the likes of Ostapenko and Stephens are the ones who truly believe in
Report aaronh September 9, 2017 10:44 PM BST
Sammy‏ @Sammyb01  16m16 minutes ago
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In their ability, not the Haleps, woz or Pliskovas.
Report edy September 9, 2017 10:45 PM BST
Halep, Wozniacki and Pliskova are all damaged goods.
Report GRANTCKING September 9, 2017 10:46 PM BST
woz doesnt have the game to win a slam, doesnt matter how much she believes, halep and ka plis still gonna win a slam I tihnk
Report The Leopard September 9, 2017 10:48 PM BST
Best of 5 in the final....Got to be !
Report aaronh September 9, 2017 10:49 PM BST
i would prefer bo3 in the final tomorrow
Report n88uk September 9, 2017 10:49 PM BST
Pliskova isn't damaged goods yet imo.
Report Angela Rebecchi September 9, 2017 10:49 PM BST
wise is checking his bookie account to make sure they've payed out !
Report GRANTCKING September 9, 2017 10:50 PM BST

Sep 9, 2017 -- 4:49PM, n88uk wrote:


Pliskova isn't damaged goods yet imo.


yeh not even close to damaged goods

Report aaronh September 9, 2017 10:50 PM BST
i'll pm wise my paypal details for all my support
Report GRANTCKING September 9, 2017 10:50 PM BST

Sep 9, 2017 -- 4:49PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:


wise is checking his bookie account to make sure they've payed out !


Grin its an independent bookie, they dont have a website, hes furiously looking for the reciept!!!

Report aaronh September 9, 2017 10:51 PM BST
Serena Williams‏Verified account
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I made you.
Report Angela Rebecchi September 9, 2017 10:52 PM BST

Sep 9, 2017 -- 4:50PM, GRANTCKING wrote:


Sep  9, 2017 -- 10:49PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:wise is checking his bookie account to make sure they've payed out ! its an independent bookie, they dont have a website, hes furiously looking for the reciept!!!


you joking? jesus. independent bookies are notoriously shifty, hope he doesn't get palped or something !

Report n88uk September 9, 2017 10:52 PM BST
I think that's kinda true anyway but kinda isn't. Thing is both Ostapenko and Stephens faced at the end of these grand slams the exact style of players they want to face, their perfect match ups.

Both took their opportunity strongly. Both peaked at the right time (something all 3 of those players Edy listed struggle with). Neither really got tight when it matters which of course has been a problem especially for Halep.
Report GRANTCKING September 9, 2017 10:52 PM BST

Sep 9, 2017 -- 4:51PM, aaronh wrote:


Serena Williams‏Verified account @serenawilliamsFollowingMoreI made you.


what does this mean

Report wisewords September 9, 2017 10:53 PM BST

Sep 9, 2017 -- 4:31PM, aaronh wrote:


Sloane up to 17th now


Happy

Report n88uk September 9, 2017 10:57 PM BST
Peaking at the right time defo a key point. I mean I was talking about this about Svitolina just last night wasn't I, of what has been her defining match at a grand slams, and there isn't one, good player, but really isn't bringing it at all when it matters.

I mean I guess it's easiest to use Woz as she's oldest of that bunch. Woz has very few matches at slams where you point to that and go that was an amazing win. The match vs Sharapova in 2014 is one.

Halep feels the one who is most out and out bottling it of that bunch, I do think she's good enough to win at some point, but the questions mentally are getting bigger every slam.

Pliskova is kinda in same camp at Svitolina, but to less extent as she did play very well last years US Open. But other than that she's been awful at slams really. For most this year she's been perceived the best player but even when she's been winning matches she looked very average like she did ein the early rounds here.
Report mesmerised September 9, 2017 11:13 PM BST
I don't think Halep bottled either of the two slams finals she played tbh, especially the first one, the second one she came up against someone who just took the racquet out of her hand at times, she was literally facing the power of an ATP player.
Report wisewords September 9, 2017 11:13 PM BST

Sep 9, 2017 -- 4:52PM, n88uk wrote:


I think that's kinda true anyway but kinda isn't. Thing is both Ostapenko and Stephens faced at the end of these grand slams the exact style of players they want to face, their perfect match ups.Both took their opportunity strongly. Both peaked at the right time (something all 3 of those players Edy listed struggle with). Neither really got tight when it matters which of course has been a problem especially for Halep.


Ostapenko got destroyed in the final before Simona choked though.

Report GRANTCKING September 9, 2017 11:20 PM BST
agree with wise, halep lost that final, ostapenko didnt win it
Report n88uk September 9, 2017 11:21 PM BST
Using that same logic, the only reason Stephens was in the final in the first place was because Sevastova got massively tight at winning end.

Ostapenko still had to hit all the winners to get over the line, she still had to drive the play and make it happen.
Report n88uk September 9, 2017 11:25 PM BST

Sep 9, 2017 -- 5:13PM, mesmerised wrote:


I don't think Halep bottled either of the two slams finals she played tbh, especially the first one, the second one she came up against someone who just took the racquet out of her hand at times, she was literally facing the power of an ATP player.


She defo got tight in 2nd one. Problem I guess it's kinda catch 22, but she got so passive vs Ostapenko, she was pinned so far back by the end, I mean every player fell into that trap at the end of French Open vs Ostapenko but Halep's is notable because of the leads she had.

But really I'm looking at more than just the finals. Nearly every loss Halep seems to have is crushing for some reason or other. I can't think of any player who is taking more blows than Halep right now. 3 times 1 match from #1, 3 losses. How many tough losses has she had at grand slams now, it's a lot.

Report n88uk September 9, 2017 11:27 PM BST
The weird thing re: number 1 is unless she does it winning AO or something, say she gets it in Wuhan, Halep feels the kind of player who will struggle with the pressure even more as #1 than she is right now.
Report GRANTCKING September 9, 2017 11:30 PM BST
does she even care about the number 1 ranking?
Report GRANTCKING September 9, 2017 11:30 PM BST
in wta it literally means nothing if we are honest
Report n88uk September 9, 2017 11:30 PM BST
Yes she talked about it for ages.
Report GRANTCKING September 9, 2017 11:30 PM BST
id rather have a slam than be number 1 if I were halep
Report n88uk September 9, 2017 11:30 PM BST
It means a lot to players.

I tend to agree kinda with you, that the merry go round we have right now makes it all kinda meaningless.
Report n88uk September 9, 2017 11:31 PM BST
Big money for getting to #1 too from sponsors etc.
Report wisewords September 9, 2017 11:36 PM BST

Sep 9, 2017 -- 5:21PM, n88uk wrote:


Using that same logic, the only reason Stephens was in the final in the first place was because Sevastova got massively tight at winning end.Ostapenko still had to hit all the winners to get over the line, she still had to drive the play and make it happen.


Yeah, but she did all that after Simona choked. Sevastova didn't choke, Sloane upped her level and Sevastova couldn't stay with her.

Report n88uk September 9, 2017 11:39 PM BST
Sevastova was tight as a drum.
Report sixtwosix September 10, 2017 11:43 AM BST
All Ms Stephens had to do was keep the ball in court , Ms Keys was not at the races , how many backhands were hit miles out of court.
Barely had to get out of first gear to beat an opponent who was hapless on the day.
Report baNjackst September 12, 2017 10:20 AM BST
I'd have lost a lot of money if I had a bet in this final.

Madison's appearance would suggest she didn't sleep leading up to the final. For a young woman she had large bags under her eyes, fatigue and emotional drain would explain her performance in the final. She was so sublime and unbeatable in the semi that nobody could have seen a complete turnaround in her play for the final. I listened to a press conference before the final and Madison appeared to worry about a previous meeting with Sloane where she was beaten comprehensively.

I hope Madison the best and should she learn to carry the A game to any future finals she'll have nothing to fear. It's just a matter of getting the monkey off her back and she will have the game to dominate womens tennis.
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