Sep 9, 2017 -- 10:15PM, n88uk wrote:

Pennetta vs Vinci was pretty sh*t too.

that was the worst final ive ever seen

n88uk, quite frankly, if you're an idiot if you think Sloane is "a backboard".

LETS GO SLOANE!

sloane isnt just a blocker, she can hit winners, agree with wisey baby

lets go Sloane, lets go!

lmao bagel point

and we're here, finally. we started with 128 women. 2 remain. CHAMPIONSHIP POINT.

What has won Stephens this match, her winners or her ability to be a backboard?

true n88, but to give sloane her dues, a 10:5 winner ue stat, is pretty exceptional. and i'd say that winner count seems low, certainly loads more if you count shots that have produced forced errors.

How many more Slams for Sloane?

Sep 9, 2017 -- 10:18PM, DStyle wrote:

true n88, but to give sloane her dues, a 10:5 winner ue stat, is pretty exceptional. and i'd say that winner count seems low, certainly loads more if you count shots that have produced forced errors.

thank you.

LETS GO SLOANE!

If you feel that your chances to achieve your dreams get knifed by injury every fckin time, that's inevitably going to spill out in your level and body language.

Sep 9, 2017 -- 10:18PM, caramba wrote:

How many more Slams for Sloane?

0-1 probably.

Sep 9, 2017 -- 10:14PM, GRANTCKING wrote:

Sep  9, 2017 -- 10:14PM, mesmerised wrote:What a crap final, hope the men's is better.will be 3-0 rafa in a similar beatdown

Rafa will similarly push his bashing opponent til they go insane too

n88uk 09 Sep 17 22:18 
What has won Stephens this match, her winners or her ability to be a backboard?


both really. there's surely a synergy there.

We've had 2 ball bashers in one semi, a pusher and a 38 year old in the other - wta

We've had #19 ranked unspectacular no mark v #32 ranked servebot in one semi and an old GOAT v a very tired delpo in the other.

It's been a terrible slam, Thiem v Delpo was probably the highlight just for the comeback and atmosphere and even then the first 2 sets were a non event.

Her main winning play in effect is putting balls to depth down the middle of the court. It's safe, hence why it's smart. If Keys hit shots like that last one that's too good (at deuce), but it's not a winning play for Keys because she can't do that most of the time.

completely agree mes. it's been utter sh1te.

COME ON SLOANE! THIS TIME!

don't know which way the stats are meant to be but

on Sloane's side it is 10 forced errors each on the scoreboard now

Thiem vs Delpo and Masha vs Halep, but I'm probably biased for that one, are the only highlights of this event. Poor Slam indeed.

BEST COAST!

but, sloane has played very well.

awwww

longest post-match hug ever

Sloane you are amazing.

if the organisers hadn't given the drug cheat a wildcard, and put someone appropriate in Murray's spot, it may have been better.

the event has ended

closed

well in the frame for the most woeful effort by a strong favourite in a GS final ever surely. can remember juan carlos ferrero losing the first 2 sets something like 1 and 2 when a massive favourite against albert costa but not much else

Class from Sloane, so composed. Lovely to see the hug at the end. Very profitable that too.

Sep 9, 2017 -- 10:21PM, aaronh wrote:

don't know which way the stats are meant to be but on Sloane's side it is 10 forced errors each on the scoreboard now

Stephens won 60 points. I think 30 ue Keys, 10 winners. Rest = missed 1st serves + forced errors.

SloaneYou keep knocking them out kid, well done wise

feel sorry for maddy..obv not 100% physically
but fair play to Sloane..girl is talented
got an edge about her

Sep 9, 2017 -- 10:23PM, stroodle wrote:

SloaneYou keep knocking them out kid, well done wise

thanks buddy. what a ride

Sep 9, 2017 -- 10:20PM, mesmerised wrote:

We've had 2 ball bashers in one semi, a pusher and a 38 year old in the other - wtaWe've had #19 ranked unspectacular no mark v #32 ranked servebot in one semi and an old GOAT v a very tired delpo in the other.It's been a terrible slam, Thiem v Delpo was probably the highlight just for the comeback and atmosphere and even then the first 2 sets were a non event.

It's been a crap slam yer. Depends a bit on perspective I guess as some people, ie. Americans like all American semi's, but it was bit meh really. Stephens vs Venus was overhyped beyond proportion too. It was a crap match for 2 and a half sets, but because the end was good it's hyped as a good match now, it really wasn't.

Tomorrow likely to be more crap.

Sep 9, 2017 -- 10:23PM, mafeking wrote:

well in the frame for the most woeful effort by a strong favourite in a GS final ever surely. can remember juan carlos ferrero losing the first 2 sets something like 1 and 2 when a massive favourite against albert costa but not much else

Doesn't beat Lisicki's at Wimbledon in 2013 for me.

best slam 4 a long time! punting wise 4 me thats all that concerns me couldnt give a fook about the tennis my profit is what makes it good or not

30 UEs in 15 games lmao

UEs on their own is a meaningless stat

18 winners/30 UE

-12

the ranger has attractive qualities

wonder what her head is like

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In our interview post-QF, I mentioned to Sloane that she may be four days from winning a Slam.

Her response? "****g hell."

6-3, 3-0.

This is classy behaviour from madison here. Inside she'll be wanting to be miles away

I don't get what Keys does in practice. Like the inability to construct a point at a basic level is mind boggling to me. This was on the biggest stage, but she does this all the time, she did the exact same thing at USO last year. It's like she's just told go on court and play your game and you will win (a pet peeve of mine as you know), but surely they can't be that naive. There is zero improvement to this side of her game at all.

major bottle job from lisicki obviously but she did show some fight in the last few games

Sep 9, 2017 -- 10:23PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:

Class from Sloane, so composed. Lovely to see the hug at the end. Very profitable that too.

Also lovely to see them chatting now here at the end.

Sep 9, 2017 -- 10:29PM, Journeyman wrote:

This is classy behaviour from madison here. Inside she'll be wanting to be miles away

will be happy for her great pal even if she did absolutely stink it up tonight

Yer but is pointless at 6-1, 5-1. It was so bad up to that point it was comical. Keys was just outplayed here, but she didn't play like a 200 ranked hacker, Sabine did.

Sloane up to 17th now

Wtf is up with all those flags

cough up the 40k for Tornado, Katrina

Is the woman in the red jacket Madison's mother?

Sloane and Madison two great people, this is nice to see.

https://twitter.com/SloaneStephens/status/854358904360247298


,

Sep 9, 2017 -- 10:35PM, aaronh wrote:

https://twitter.com/SloaneStephens/status/854358904360247298,

Quite incredible that.

not really she was always very good recovered from injury and came back it's what they do

mage a slam final already and the tournie was wide open without mamma

#47, #10, #43, #33, #17, #9, #16

Ranked players Sloane beat.

Most the top players are bad anyway.

div 2 player what a mug coach

Given about half the top 10 lost within 2 rounds, she actually beat reasonable players, given she was facing good players from early on.

lol Sloane

well played Sloane

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For me the only interesting thing about Serena being out is who has the composure to win slams. The actual level of tennis needed to do it

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Is painfully low right now but it is super interesting to see that the likes of Ostapenko and Stephens are the ones who truly believe in

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In their ability, not the Haleps, woz or Pliskovas.

Halep, Wozniacki and Pliskova are all damaged goods.

woz doesnt have the game to win a slam, doesnt matter how much she believes, halep and ka plis still gonna win a slam I tihnk

Best of 5 in the final....Got to be !

i would prefer bo3 in the final tomorrow

Pliskova isn't damaged goods yet imo.

wise is checking his bookie account to make sure they've payed out !

Sep 9, 2017 -- 10:49PM, n88uk wrote:

Pliskova isn't damaged goods yet imo.

yeh not even close to damaged goods

i'll pm wise my paypal details for all my support

Sep 9, 2017 -- 10:49PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:

wise is checking his bookie account to make sure they've payed out !

its an independent bookie, they dont have a website, hes furiously looking for the reciept!!!

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I made you.

Sep 9, 2017 -- 10:50PM, GRANTCKING wrote:

Sep  9, 2017 -- 10:49PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:wise is checking his bookie account to make sure they've payed out ! its an independent bookie, they dont have a website, hes furiously looking for the reciept!!!

you joking? jesus. independent bookies are notoriously shifty, hope he doesn't get palped or something !

I think that's kinda true anyway but kinda isn't. Thing is both Ostapenko and Stephens faced at the end of these grand slams the exact style of players they want to face, their perfect match ups.

Both took their opportunity strongly. Both peaked at the right time (something all 3 of those players Edy listed struggle with). Neither really got tight when it matters which of course has been a problem especially for Halep.

Sep 9, 2017 -- 10:51PM, aaronh wrote:

Serena Williams‏Verified account @serenawilliamsFollowingMoreI made you.

what does this mean

Sep 9, 2017 -- 10:31PM, aaronh wrote:

Sloane up to 17th now

Peaking at the right time defo a key point. I mean I was talking about this about Svitolina just last night wasn't I, of what has been her defining match at a grand slams, and there isn't one, good player, but really isn't bringing it at all when it matters.

I mean I guess it's easiest to use Woz as she's oldest of that bunch. Woz has very few matches at slams where you point to that and go that was an amazing win. The match vs Sharapova in 2014 is one.

Halep feels the one who is most out and out bottling it of that bunch, I do think she's good enough to win at some point, but the questions mentally are getting bigger every slam.

Pliskova is kinda in same camp at Svitolina, but to less extent as she did play very well last years US Open. But other than that she's been awful at slams really. For most this year she's been perceived the best player but even when she's been winning matches she looked very average like she did ein the early rounds here.

I don't think Halep bottled either of the two slams finals she played tbh, especially the first one, the second one she came up against someone who just took the racquet out of her hand at times, she was literally facing the power of an ATP player.

Sep 9, 2017 -- 10:52PM, n88uk wrote:

I think that's kinda true anyway but kinda isn't. Thing is both Ostapenko and Stephens faced at the end of these grand slams the exact style of players they want to face, their perfect match ups.Both took their opportunity strongly. Both peaked at the right time (something all 3 of those players Edy listed struggle with). Neither really got tight when it matters which of course has been a problem especially for Halep.

Ostapenko got destroyed in the final before Simona choked though.

agree with wise, halep lost that final, ostapenko didnt win it

Using that same logic, the only reason Stephens was in the final in the first place was because Sevastova got massively tight at winning end.

Ostapenko still had to hit all the winners to get over the line, she still had to drive the play and make it happen.

Sep 9, 2017 -- 11:13PM, mesmerised wrote:

I don't think Halep bottled either of the two slams finals she played tbh, especially the first one, the second one she came up against someone who just took the racquet out of her hand at times, she was literally facing the power of an ATP player.

She defo got tight in 2nd one. Problem I guess it's kinda catch 22, but she got so passive vs Ostapenko, she was pinned so far back by the end, I mean every player fell into that trap at the end of French Open vs Ostapenko but Halep's is notable because of the leads she had.

But really I'm looking at more than just the finals. Nearly every loss Halep seems to have is crushing for some reason or other. I can't think of any player who is taking more blows than Halep right now. 3 times 1 match from #1, 3 losses. How many tough losses has she had at grand slams now, it's a lot.

The weird thing re: number 1 is unless she does it winning AO or something, say she gets it in Wuhan, Halep feels the kind of player who will struggle with the pressure even more as #1 than she is right now.

does she even care about the number 1 ranking?

in wta it literally means nothing if we are honest

Yes she talked about it for ages.

id rather have a slam than be number 1 if I were halep

It means a lot to players.

I tend to agree kinda with you, that the merry go round we have right now makes it all kinda meaningless.

Big money for getting to #1 too from sponsors etc.

Sep 9, 2017 -- 11:21PM, n88uk wrote:

Using that same logic, the only reason Stephens was in the final in the first place was because Sevastova got massively tight at winning end.Ostapenko still had to hit all the winners to get over the line, she still had to drive the play and make it happen.

Yeah, but she did all that after Simona choked. Sevastova didn't choke, Sloane upped her level and Sevastova couldn't stay with her.

Sevastova was tight as a drum.

All Ms Stephens had to do was keep the ball in court , Ms Keys was not at the races , how many backhands were hit miles out of court.
Barely had to get out of first gear to beat an opponent who was hapless on the day.

I'd have lost a lot of money if I had a bet in this final.

Madison's appearance would suggest she didn't sleep leading up to the final. For a young woman she had large bags under her eyes, fatigue and emotional drain would explain her performance in the final. She was so sublime and unbeatable in the semi that nobody could have seen a complete turnaround in her play for the final. I listened to a press conference before the final and Madison appeared to worry about a previous meeting with Sloane where she was beaten comprehensively.

I hope Madison the best and should she learn to carry the A game to any future finals she'll have nothing to fear. It's just a matter of getting the monkey off her back and she will have the game to dominate womens tennis.