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Report J.O.TOBIN. January 3, 2018 9:05 PM GMT
Evening Tim hopefully tonight will keep pace with last night.
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 9:05 PM GMT

Jan 3, 2018 -- 9:05PM, timbuctooth wrote:


Err, just realised it`s Wednesday...


drugs still not working tim?

Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 9:06 PM GMT
Watched live feed India has no chance
Report BB 3rd Cousin twice removed January 3, 2018 9:07 PM GMT
So tim thinks it's Monday and mach thinks it's the 1970's?
Report timbuctooth January 3, 2018 9:14 PM GMT
No wonder it`s so easy for everyone to win on here...
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 9:18 PM GMT
Maggie is a listener...its the detective training...unusual in a CBB where ego is the default position...might be a route to victory...
Report BB 3rd Cousin twice removed January 3, 2018 9:20 PM GMT
Maggie asking Ann if she knows what a hi 5 is. Sexist or ageist?
Report BB 3rd Cousin twice removed January 3, 2018 9:20 PM GMT
India* not M
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 9:20 PM GMT
Polite?
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 9:21 PM GMT
Not polite...condescending...like I said above she has no chance
Report J.O.TOBIN. January 3, 2018 9:21 PM GMT
Liking a few of these decent people and good role models
Report timbuctooth January 3, 2018 9:22 PM GMT
My first max red
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 9:23 PM GMT
Can't lose then tim unless you throw it away
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 9:24 PM GMT
It was quite uncomfortable watching it the way they ostracised and talked over Ann because she put an alternative view
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 9:33 PM GMT
Rachel has no chance either
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 9:34 PM GMT
...very voter unfriendly
Report BB 3rd Cousin twice removed January 3, 2018 9:35 PM GMT
should there be a thread for Jess photo links?
Report J.O.TOBIN. January 3, 2018 9:36 PM GMT
Think Ann tolerates others opinions and enjoys the debate as well so don't think any disagreement will be personal from her POV
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 9:37 PM GMT
Ann won't be going anywhere soon
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 9:38 PM GMT
A lot of typical CBB voters will see her as speaking for them
Report Cider January 3, 2018 9:38 PM GMT
Sounds like Ann would do well on the forum JOT
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 9:39 PM GMT
Early vote for Maggie....a worrying red for the early birds
Report Cider January 3, 2018 9:39 PM GMT
This is almost like old school BB. Almost!
Report mach January 3, 2018 9:39 PM GMT
Amanda a mile a head so far
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 9:40 PM GMT
Funny on BOTS...the all female audience gave half hearted cheers for all the women one by one and went crazy when John Barnes was announced
Report timbuctooth January 3, 2018 9:41 PM GMT
India, selfish and uncaring, CANNOT WIN!
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 9:42 PM GMT
Wink
Report mach January 3, 2018 9:42 PM GMT
India has a lot of  resentment imo
Report mach January 3, 2018 9:43 PM GMT
no chance
Report mach January 3, 2018 9:43 PM GMT
I like Ann
Report BB 3rd Cousin twice removed January 3, 2018 9:44 PM GMT
Ann saying the right things.
Report mach January 3, 2018 9:44 PM GMT
Maggie has played her trump card a now as to compete on personality
Report mach January 3, 2018 9:45 PM GMT
*and
Report J.O.TOBIN. January 3, 2018 9:45 PM GMT
Yep India rolling her eyes at Ann not a good thing. Think she will drift soon enough only got one facet to her personality and it aint pleasant
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 9:46 PM GMT
...who said watching live feed was pointless?
Report jollyswagman January 3, 2018 9:47 PM GMT
ann's the anti, doesnt care about pc b0ll0x, just get on with it attitude. likely to get involved in arguments and nominated a lot, bring it on. could grate on the public in the long run though. i'd be worried if the show goes back to c5 normal when the men enter she may think about walking.

india worked for c5, you may need to be careful they dont favour her????

maggie hasnt put a foot wrong so far imo.
Report BB 3rd Cousin twice removed January 3, 2018 9:47 PM GMT
India hi 5'ing like a footballer. Laugh
Report bearcub January 3, 2018 9:47 PM GMT
India is so lovely Love
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 9:48 PM GMT
so bear's laying India then Grin
Report mach January 3, 2018 9:48 PM GMT
Is India's situation a mental illness bear, what do you think?
Report mach January 3, 2018 9:48 PM GMT
DevilDevil
Report bearcub January 3, 2018 9:49 PM GMT
I think posting bollox on here is a mental condition mach
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 9:49 PM GMT
No you were just boring BB Rachel
Report Cider January 3, 2018 9:50 PM GMT
Had to look up the definition of a word used on CBB, first time for everything!
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 9:53 PM GMT
pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis? Philistine
Report Cider January 3, 2018 9:53 PM GMT
India seems another Maloney. OK you're trans, nobody cares. it's 2018 ffs no 1968, just get on with living your life.
Report jollyswagman January 3, 2018 9:53 PM GMT
that kind of language unlikely to be appreciated by the c5 audience though cider, emphasizing her being different???
Report Cider January 3, 2018 9:56 PM GMT
I feel this show is more about motivation to vote nowadays jolly, really low numbers. Though you'd struggle to see where Rachel's would come from without storyline favour.
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 9:56 PM GMT
mmmm not sure four weeks of zen will be enough for Maggie
Report timbuctooth January 3, 2018 9:57 PM GMT
India, accustomed to being physically larger than most women, turns out to be a bully! who`d a thought it? Did one or two forumites enjoy her trying to minx it up on her nightie in the DR?
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 9:58 PM GMT
All this nicey nicey towards Maggie is probably fishing for some negativity towards her...suspect they see her as a threat winning wise
Report zoomraker January 3, 2018 10:00 PM GMT

Jan 3, 2018 -- 9:58PM, George Bailey wrote:


All this nicey nicey towards Maggie is probably fishing for some negativity towards her...suspect they see her as a threat winning wise


still giving orders to imaginary armies from the bunker Bailey?

Report mach January 3, 2018 10:00 PM GMT
Ashley does not seem to have much about her
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 10:01 PM GMT
Just posting on a forum zoom....not even sure what you are talking about
Report BB 3rd Cousin twice removed January 3, 2018 10:01 PM GMT
Interesting how Maggie, the least well know in terms of 'celebrity', is the biggest threat.
Report zoomraker January 3, 2018 10:02 PM GMT

Jan 3, 2018 -- 10:00PM, mach wrote:


Ashley does not seem to have much about her


seems nice enough but seems to have had everything on a plate up until now.

Report zoomraker January 3, 2018 10:02 PM GMT

Jan 3, 2018 -- 10:01PM, George Bailey wrote:


Just posting on a forum zoom....not even sure what you are talking about


just think you might be overthinking things Bails

Report mach January 3, 2018 10:03 PM GMT
Tellymix CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER 2018: WHO'S YOUR FAVOURITE?
Maggie Oliver  22.44%  (138 votes)


Amanda Barrie  22.28%  (137 votes)


Malika Haqq  15.93%  (98 votes)


Ann Widdecombe  13.82%  (85 votes)


Jess Impiazzi  10.24%  (63 votes)


Rachel Johnson  7.32%  (45 votes)


India Willoughby  4.39%  (27 votes)


Ashley James  3.58%  (22 votes)



Total Votes: 615
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 10:03 PM GMT
I've been accused of worse zoom
Report Cider January 3, 2018 10:06 PM GMT
Jess is a delight, train can't be too far away!

What's Maggie's routemap to victory? Huge welcome as would have been anticipated but that will dissipate as the series progresses. Without significant prod help it's tough to see what will keep her in the game. 4/1 looks mighty short.
Report zoomraker January 3, 2018 10:07 PM GMT
Maggie will be everyones rock,
the only people who go against her will be the obviously nasty ones/bullies

Maggie not a cert but current price probably fair at this point.

She has shown more bravery and strength of character than most have in them and not come away from the experience broken and bitter.

Her inner grace and beauty is only equalled by Melania Trump

Hail Queen Melania
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 10:09 PM GMT
Only a few of these can win...Maggie the big conundrum Wink....bring on the men
Report mach January 3, 2018 10:09 PM GMT
LaughLaugh
Report timbuctooth January 3, 2018 10:10 PM GMT
Live feed watchers saw  Ashley rule herself out last night, my second max red.
Most unusual for me, this `women` thing; I invariably have a sea of max reds at the top of the ladder after so short a time, but I`m convinced a woman wins this year, so have had to be disciplined, and not lay away as normal. Having just two max reds so far really is taking all the discipline I have, itching to lay all the men. Market at 62.6%, something like a 12% increase overnight, but take out India and Ashley, and the market still has it only 50%-odd that a woman wins; seeing as one does, we`re effectively getting double odds on the only six possible winners.
Report Cider January 3, 2018 10:10 PM GMT
Nobody wins this show for being a rock, or a good listener. As I alluded to that doesn't motivate voting.
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 10:13 PM GMT
How did Coleen win?
Report BB 3rd Cousin twice removed January 3, 2018 10:14 PM GMT
George Bailey • January 3, 2018 10:09 PM GMT
Only a few of these can win...Maggie the big conundrum Wink....bring on the men


India and John Barnes playing football in the garden with a pair of rolled up socks, by Sunday.  1.80
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 10:14 PM GMT
Accepted wisdom is that nice can win civilian BB but audience expects entertaining from CBB winner...Coleen an exception I guess but shows there is an alternative route to victory
Report Cider January 3, 2018 10:15 PM GMT
Coleen was default popularity, like a few winners on C5.
Report zoomraker January 3, 2018 10:15 PM GMT

Jan 3, 2018 -- 10:10PM, Cider wrote:


Nobody wins this show for being a rock, or a good listener. As I alluded to that doesn't motivate voting.


people do win for showing good moral character

loyalty
bravery
integrity
standing up for the week

remember Julian Clary staying loyal to Julie Goodyear when the whole house turned on her - maybe he would have won any way but that must have been another 10% of the vote.

The winner doesn't need to be a the center of the narrative - just being congruent is worth a lot.

Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 10:15 PM GMT

Jan 3, 2018 -- 10:15PM, Cider wrote:


Coleen was default popularity, like a few winners on C5.


ditto Maggie

Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 10:16 PM GMT
Maggie would have hacked home in a vote last night at 9.30
Report zoomraker January 3, 2018 10:16 PM GMT
Clary won by being sweet and kind not entertaining
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 10:19 PM GMT
At some point the "celebs" will have a pop at Maggie and that will give her a storyline....like I say she's the conundrum the others you can call them all now pretty much
Report Cider January 3, 2018 10:21 PM GMT
Clary was one of the biggest reality certainties before the show even started!

Yeah Maggie would have won a vote last night, that's obviously my point. That popularity won't be maintained as the show develops. Kind of reality betting basics is working out where the vtw will come from on the last night, not the opening night.
Report zoomraker January 3, 2018 10:24 PM GMT

Jan 3, 2018 -- 10:21PM, Cider wrote:


Clary was one of the biggest reality certainties before the show even started!Yeah Maggie would have won a vote last night, that's obviously my point. That popularity won't be maintained as the show develops. Kind of reality betting basics is working out where the vtw will come from on the last night, not the opening night.


Clary won because his behavior in the house was congruent with peoples perception of him at the beginning of the show.
He was a sweet and lovely bloke,  if he had turned out to be a backstabbing conniving **** he would not have won.

He won by his behavior in the house not because of fan base.

Report BB 3rd Cousin twice removed January 3, 2018 10:25 PM GMT
Maggie to expose favouritisum that goes on behind the camera by day 16.  1.80
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 10:26 PM GMT

Jan 3, 2018 -- 10:21PM, Cider wrote:


Clary was one of the biggest reality certainties before the show even started!Yeah Maggie would have won a vote last night, that's obviously my point. That popularity won't be maintained as the show develops. Kind of reality betting basics is working out where the vtw will come from on the last night, not the opening night.


So its not won...or lost...in the house?

Report timbuctooth January 3, 2018 10:26 PM GMT
Maggie doesn`t look like she will be central to much, so would normally be max red material; if, however, you believe TPTB will be able to get a woman over the line quite easily, then all eight should be half their current price, meaning laying now at 5.x is folly, as her true mathematical price is about 3.0. Exclude India and Ashley, and her true price is nearer 2.75/ Don`t get suckered into playing this year `normally`, it ain`t a normal series.
Report zoomraker January 3, 2018 10:27 PM GMT

Jan 3, 2018 -- 10:26PM, timbuctooth wrote:


Maggie doesn`t look like she will be central to much, so would normally be max red material; if, however, you believe TPTB will be able to get a woman over the line quite easily, then all eight should be half their current price, meaning laying now at 5.x is folly, as her true mathematical price is about 3.0. Exclude India and Ashley, and her true price is nearer 2.75/ Don`t get suckered into playing this year `normally`, it ain`t a normal series.


will look pretty crap if a bloke wins year of the woman

Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 10:28 PM GMT
Emma will be seething if that happens
Report Cider January 3, 2018 10:29 PM GMT
If you're comparing Maggie to Clary as a runner, zoom, personally I feel that's hugely wide of the mark. I see absolutely no similarities. I was happy to pile into Clary before any action in the house as it was blatantly obvious he had perfect credentials to be able to win the show.
Report zoomraker January 3, 2018 10:31 PM GMT

Jan 3, 2018 -- 10:29PM, Cider wrote:


If you're comparing Maggie to Clary as a runner, zoom, personally I feel that's hugely wide of the mark. I see absolutely no similarities. I was happy to pile into Clary before any action in the house as it was blatantly obvious he had perfect credentials to be able to win the show.


not really,
was more trying to come up with examples of nice winning the show

Report timbuctooth January 3, 2018 10:32 PM GMT
That`s the basis of my book, zoom. I`m with Cider, in that Maggie`s got an awful long way to go, and I don`t think she`s our winner. But laying at 5.0 is DOUBLE her true price, so probably best not to lay now. Instead, lay every man, or back a few of the females, the value is on your side, big style.
Report mach January 3, 2018 10:33 PM GMT
It can be spun anyway at the end, true equality would be all the runners having a equal chance of winning that is not based on their gender.
Report zoomraker January 3, 2018 10:35 PM GMT
lots to think about
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 10:37 PM GMT
Already been the positive discrimination that Ann referred to by letting the women in for four days....C5 know "latecomers" have an uphill struggle
Report Cider January 3, 2018 10:40 PM GMT
Clary was cuttingly hilarious, his razor sharp wit consistently shone through the whole series. The 'nice' thing is a red herring, he was nice along with 10 or so other qualities, self deprecating etc. Maggie is more like a Cosmo who will likely just fizzle out as there's only so many times the Rochdale story will make the edit. She might get plenty of prod help though, tbc.

It looks likely to be an interesting series anyhow, not plays from me as yet.
Report timbuctooth January 3, 2018 10:43 PM GMT
We`ve all been at this RTV malarkey for years, we all  know the pimping of TCO`s is incredibly powerful, be it CBB, XF, IAC, whatever. This year, TPTB have laid their cards out in the open; we want a woman winner. Therefore, slightly surprising to see that so many old hands on here aren`t taking notice of the signals. Not as if they`re in Indian smoke, more like having alarm clocks tied to your head, each ringing to destruction, yet STILL being ignored! Picture such people as Wile E Coyote; those taking note, more like Roadrunner.
Report mach January 3, 2018 10:46 PM GMT
if ch5 push a woman winner to hard there will be a backlash
Report mach January 3, 2018 10:47 PM GMT
I don't think it's definitely a female winner
Report Cider January 3, 2018 10:48 PM GMT
It's about timing as usual, tim. On CBB I'm not fussed about getting a great price, I am fussed about clearing a profit. I've not seen anyone I'd commit to as yet, not on a betting front in any case! Lots more clues to be gleaned.
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 10:50 PM GMT
If India is 2nd fav (just about) I'll take evens now a man wins just for value
Report George Bailey January 3, 2018 11:12 PM GMT
Maybe not so much value if only seven men going in
Report timbuctooth January 3, 2018 11:32 PM GMT
India as 2nd fav means no more than the market is its usual clueless self; every Specials market is always wrong. To link that to men being favs to win is twaddle. If that statement was anything more than rhetoric, you can lay all the women, right now, at 54.7%, which is pretty much 5/6, giving you 6/5 any male winner. Do things properly and put up offers and wait to be laid will give you 6/4 any male, even if your money goes up at best current prices.
Report jollyswagman January 3, 2018 11:52 PM GMT
malika wins immunity
Report Tom_Ato January 3, 2018 11:55 PM GMT
Hello friends!

This woman power theme is weird and nauseating already, can see the viewers getting sick of its pretentiousness and crowning a male winner. Out of the current crop I think Amanda Barrie has potential, I still can't get over the time she swung for Gordan Ramsey in Hell's Kitchen Laugh
Report jollyswagman January 3, 2018 11:58 PM GMT
the sauce of all knowledge has spoken Cool

hard to believe amanda's in her 80s, agree she's coming across really well so far. bit worried about her stamina for 4 weeks of boredom.
Report Tom_Ato January 4, 2018 12:24 AM GMT
Hey jolly! *ass slap*

Alma doesn't suffer fools, I think she'll end up in some kerfuffles, could go either way but at least she's likely to get involved.
Report mach January 4, 2018 12:36 AM GMT
I would have amanda fav
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