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gobelins
30 Apr 17 11:16
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So, after 15 days of hard graft we've arrived at the final. J.Higgins has cost me a few quid with his wins over M.Allen and B.Hawkins, but I can at least be thankful I didn't oppose him on the spreads as he'd have been very high on my list of 'sells'. I wouldn't have picked him had I been given 10 picks, as I thought he was bound to throw in an awful session, as he always does these days, and he'd be punished for it. But, fair play to him he's playing well (apart from the opening sessions against Hawkins) and he really fancies his chances if his interview last night is anything to go by. However, he's got the massive obstacle of M.Selby in his way. I know he's not universally liked on here, but the way he can dictate the tempo of a session is incredible. He is so clever, even in the way he breaks off - not opening the reds when he wants to keep it tight, but opening them up when he's in full flow. His achievements here are even more creditable given that the tables are set up to promote open, attacking snooker. The match prices look spot-on, and I have no financial interest in the final (yet) so just hoping for a close finish, which would be a fitting climax to a good championship, especially as I may take Higgins with the 4.5 frame start!
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Report jackkat May 1, 2017 9:54 PM BST
I thought from the side view it looked it hit but from behind impossible to say
Report GRANTCKING May 1, 2017 9:54 PM BST
.
Report BornToWin May 1, 2017 9:54 PM BST
No angle they have shown has suggested it moved.
Report wisewords May 1, 2017 9:54 PM BST

May 1, 2017 -- 3:54PM, GRANTCKING wrote:


.


recharged Laugh

Report GRANTCKING May 1, 2017 9:55 PM BST

May 1, 2017 -- 3:32PM, BornToWin wrote:


Come on John hit this nit, hit 'im again.


Cool

Report johnnythebull May 1, 2017 9:55 PM BST
exactly
Report GRANTCKING May 1, 2017 9:55 PM BST

May 1, 2017 -- 3:54PM, wisewords wrote:


May  1, 2017 --  9:54PM, GRANTCKING wrote:.recharged


Laugh

Report tobermory May 1, 2017 9:55 PM BST
Who was he asking anyway ?

Ken and Dennis thought he called it right
Report GRANTCKING May 1, 2017 9:55 PM BST
ffs what a lucky snake
Report GRANTCKING May 1, 2017 9:56 PM BST
BOOM
Report BornToWin May 1, 2017 9:56 PM BST
Hit 'im John. Hit 'im again.
Report GRANTCKING May 1, 2017 9:56 PM BST
SELBY HAS NO IDEA WHERE HE IS, HES LIKE AJ IN THE 6TH
Report FredRescue May 1, 2017 9:56 PM BST
tobermory 01 May 17 21:55 Joined: 01 Mar 08 | Topic/replies: 41,427 | Blogger: tobermory's blog
Who was he asking anyway ?

Ken and Dennis thought he called it right


The great WT sitting there
Report wisewords May 1, 2017 9:56 PM BST

May 1, 2017 -- 3:18PM, wisewords wrote:


Coop how much % charge you got left?


Wink

Report johnnythebull May 1, 2017 9:57 PM BST
1.03>1.4
squeaky bum time
Report Valiant May 1, 2017 9:58 PM BST
Black wobbled. Anyone who saw it different should've gone to Specsavers.
Report GRANTCKING May 1, 2017 9:58 PM BST

May 1, 2017 -- 3:56PM, wisewords wrote:


May  1, 2017 --  9:18PM, wisewords wrote:Coop how much % charge you got left?


4%!

Report wisewords May 1, 2017 10:00 PM BST
did it hit the black?
Report GRANTCKING May 1, 2017 10:00 PM BST
lookedlike it to me
Report GRANTCKING May 1, 2017 10:00 PM BST
im 4 san miguels deep tho
Report BornToWin May 1, 2017 10:00 PM BST
Great stuff Jan, one look and got it right.
Report johnnythebull May 1, 2017 10:01 PM BST
jan's a top man
but selby's going to lay the heed on him
if he wins
Report GRANTCKING May 1, 2017 10:01 PM BST
OMFG ITS THAI'D
Report johnnythebull May 1, 2017 10:03 PM BST
never touched the black
Report tobermory May 1, 2017 10:03 PM BST
Jan praying Selby wins
Report Super Hans May 1, 2017 10:04 PM BST
Hit for me.
But can't knock the ref either way he called it.
Report BornToWin May 1, 2017 10:04 PM BST
Quick question, why did the nit say it hit when it didn't?
Report peckerdunne May 1, 2017 10:05 PM BST
i saw a wobble, was that with no hit........
Report GRANTCKING May 1, 2017 10:06 PM BST

May 1, 2017 -- 4:04PM, BornToWin wrote:


Quick question, why did the nit say it hit when it didn't?


LaughLaughLaughLaugh

Report GRANTCKING May 1, 2017 10:06 PM BST

May 1, 2017 -- 4:05PM, peckerdunne wrote:


i saw a wobble, was that with no hit........


I think it hit it aswell tbh, anyway its made the final more entertaining!

Report Valiant May 1, 2017 10:07 PM BST
"i saw a wobble, was that with no hit........"

Static electricity.
Report wondersobright May 1, 2017 10:07 PM BST
hit that red there
Report peckerdunne May 1, 2017 10:07 PM BST
No cant have this scum bag win and Mark would not lie........
Report GRANTCKING May 1, 2017 10:08 PM BST
https://youtu.be/RWS2onQlOOE?t=56

in honour of ding junhui, player of the tournament!
Report wisewords May 1, 2017 10:08 PM BST
Coop you must be loving this, Ken Doherty on the comms
Report BornToWin May 1, 2017 10:09 PM BST
If it hit at that speed huge odds on it be touching ball. It wasn't, because it never hit.
Report GRANTCKING May 1, 2017 10:10 PM BST

May 1, 2017 -- 4:08PM, wisewords wrote:


Coop you must be loving this, Ken Doherty on the comms


I am! Id love some willie thorne with him, what a duo!

Report GRANTCKING May 1, 2017 10:11 PM BST
CUSHION FIOST
Report wondersobright May 1, 2017 10:12 PM BST
the crucible teatre
Report wondersobright May 1, 2017 10:12 PM BST
have we had "the atmosphere is electric" yet?
Report Valiant May 1, 2017 10:14 PM BST
Taylor said "you can see the atmosphere"
Report wisewords May 1, 2017 10:14 PM BST
well, you can.
Report wisewords May 1, 2017 10:15 PM BST
THE JESTER
Report wisewords May 1, 2017 10:15 PM BST
FROM LEICESTER
Report wisewords May 1, 2017 10:18 PM BST
CHANCE
Report johnnythebull May 1, 2017 10:18 PM BST
too much chicken kiev more like
Report wisewords May 1, 2017 10:18 PM BST
PIVOTAL. SHOT.
Report wisewords May 1, 2017 10:20 PM BST
David Douglas, the former high-ranking Metropolitan Police officer who investigated match-fixing allegations against the world No1 snooker player John Higgins, has spoken in detail for the first time about why he concluded Higgins never intended to fix any match.

Higgins was banned earlier this month for six months, and fined £75,000, for talking about betting and for failing to report an approach about illicit gambling. Two other charges relating to fixing and corruption were dropped. Almost inevitably, the stigma of being accused by the News of the World on 2 May of “shaking hands on a disgraceful deal to fix a string of high-profile matches after demanding a £300,000 kickback” means mud will stick, regardless of an independent tribunal’s findings.
Report Valiant May 1, 2017 10:21 PM BST
And he pretended he didn't see the black wobble. A bounder I say.
Report peckerdunne May 1, 2017 10:24 PM BST
Not to mention WISE that his agent said on the way in

'If they ask a few questions about throwing some matches don't worry about it'.

Later he blamed his agent for misleading him and he knew nothing until walking into the room..

COMPLETE COVER UP....
Report wisewords May 1, 2017 10:25 PM BST
QUESTION 1: Some observers will be puzzled why, given the apparently damning evidence contained in the News of the World tape, which led Barry [Hearn] to suspend John [Higgins] in the first place, what the rationale was for withdrawing the most damaging charge against him, namely that he was prepared to fix frames for money. Why was that charge withdrawn without the evidence being tested?

DAVID DOUGLAS: I think you’re right in using the word that it was ‘apparently’ damning evidence, and the first thing I’ll say is that when we investigate any complaint then we’re not just going to focus on what’s in the headlines, or what’s in the newspaper or what’s on television. It’s about doing a full and thorough investigation. And that’s what the players deserve as much as anything else. If allegations are going to be made against them, they deserve to have it fully investigated and that’s what we’ll do, and that’s what I like to think we did in the case of John Higgins.

So when you look at everything that happened, the News of the World did a full undercover operation on Pat Mooney and John Higgins. It went on for a long time. And in actual fact when you look at what John did, and what the evidence shows, it shows that John knew nothing about the corrupt throwing of frames etcetera until literally he was just going into the final meeting in Kiev on 30 April, literally as he was just going in there. So when you look at what the evidence said and what charges that could support, then we go where the evidence takes us, it’s as simple as that.

Now when you look at the judgement that Mr Mill, who’s a very eminent QC, made at the end of the case, he quite clearly states that having looked at all of the evidence – and Mr Mill had access to all of the tapes, all of the video tapes, all the audio tapes from the News of the World, he had the statements from myself, Mazher Mahmood who made a full statement, John himself, Pat Mooney, everything – he said that he was in no doubt that the WPBSA were right, on the evidence, to charge John with what we charged him with. We will charge people with the offences we believe they committed, and what the evidence shows. We won’t charge people on what we believe other people might be saying about them.
Report wondersobright May 1, 2017 10:27 PM BST
mind the gap
Report johnnythebull May 1, 2017 10:27 PM BST
this guy has got what others with more natural ability don't possess..sangfroid under pressure and cojones de acer
Report peckerdunne May 1, 2017 10:29 PM BST
Just before Baz took over snooker........

Victor Chandler reported a string of bets coming in from Scotland for crooked John to lose 5-1
Report wisewords May 1, 2017 10:30 PM BST
QUESTION 6: People who don’t necessarily understand the scope of your investigation, the layman who just saw the NotW video on the website and the headlines, will probably have doubts forever about John Higgins. Can you elaborate just quite how detailed your investigation was – the scope of what you checked – so that you believed Higgins’ version of events?

DAVID DOUGLAS: Because I was allowed to look at ALL of the evidence. Whatever you think of the News of the World, they were helpful [to me]. I was given a room at News International to go through all of the material, all the audio tapes, all the video tapes, all the different angles, everything, start to finish, unedited. I had to go through all of that. And in addition to that, Mazher Mahmood made a full statement about everything that happened. But also when I asked them for things like receipts, copies of invoices, hotel bills, they provided all of that. So there’s a whole load of evidence around this, and what I also had which isn’t in the public domain was Pat Mooney’s statement, and John Higgins’ statement, and when you look at those, it’s very easy to see what happened. To be fair to Pat Mooney, he said ‘Hands up, I didn’t tell John about this until we were just about to go in.’

Clearly there was no collusion between them. They have fallen out. The entire thing, the whole thing [relationship] is fractured. Pat, to give him his due, said John knew nothing about this.

And then, because I’ve listened to all the audio tapes, it’s not about 30 April in Kiev, [I know] it’s about Edinburgh on 8 April, it’s about Kiev on 29 April, and you hear conversations going on specifically out of the hearing of John Higgins, so he’s not to brought into this, because they know, fundamentally, they knew he was honest.

And therefore when it comes to the final [meeting] you realise John was going in as a rabbit in the headlights. And therefore I’m absolutely confident, absolutely confident, backed up by Mr Mill, that that was the right interpretation.
Report Valiant May 1, 2017 10:30 PM BST
"this guy has got what others with more natural ability don't possess..sangfroid under pressure and cojones de acer"

It's a Leicester thing. Showaddywaddy had it in bucketfuls.
Report peckerdunne May 1, 2017 10:31 PM BST
COVER UP
Report johnnythebull May 1, 2017 10:34 PM BST
was reading another blog about the higgins inquiry in which they found he wasn't bent but rather naive

smn posted ..yeah there was a lot of naivete in the inquiry but none from higginsGrin
Report peckerdunne May 1, 2017 10:35 PM BST
That's about the size of it JB
Report Valiant May 1, 2017 10:36 PM BST
Did Jan see something move?
Report peckerdunne May 1, 2017 10:36 PM BST
ITS OK mARK, YOU TOUCHED THAT ONE
Report peckerdunne May 1, 2017 10:36 PM BST
Laugh
Report johnnythebull May 1, 2017 10:36 PM BST
only higgins AND canaletto really know what went downWink
Report wondersobright May 1, 2017 10:37 PM BST
oh no not this fkin sh1t againCryCry
Report wondersobright May 1, 2017 10:37 PM BST
like ronnie v higgins years ago
Report doridoru May 1, 2017 10:38 PM BST

May 1, 2017 -- 4:37PM, wondersobright wrote:


oh no not this fkin sh1t again


LaughLaugh

Report wondersobright May 1, 2017 10:38 PM BST
hit the red after touching the green and that's ok walofs
Report BornToWin May 1, 2017 10:39 PM BST
It was a foul wonder. he hit the reds so how is it a miss?

ffs Jan knows what he is doing unlike the mugs on here.
Report johnnythebull May 1, 2017 10:40 PM BST
only top pos on hereGrin
Report wondersobright May 1, 2017 10:40 PM BST
I know its a foul lol Blush
Report johnnythebull May 1, 2017 10:41 PM BST
pros ffs
Report GRANTCKING May 1, 2017 10:41 PM BST
HOW DO U SWALLOW 300K JOHN
Report GRANTCKING May 1, 2017 10:42 PM BST

May 1, 2017 -- 4:41PM, GRANTCKING wrote:


HOW DO U SWALLOW 300K JOHN


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjZ8lmedKSA

Report johnnythebull May 1, 2017 10:48 PM BST
is higgins going to pip Harchibald selby?
Report peckerdunne May 1, 2017 10:49 PM BST
Hope not

Hazel gushing will be far too much for me...............Laugh
Report peckerdunne May 1, 2017 10:50 PM BST
Mind the gap......crooked John


Someone give him an Oscar
Report johnnythebull May 1, 2017 10:51 PM BST
would have to mop up that studio floor
or maybe Davis and Parrot could put their tongues to work
Report wondersobright May 1, 2017 10:54 PM BST
1st good chance for f&m
Report wondersobright May 1, 2017 10:56 PM BST

May 1, 2017 -- 4:51PM, johnnythebull wrote:


would have to mop up that studio flooror maybe Davis and Parrot could put their tongues to work


I'd be surprised if they have the energy left after 17 days of talking wall to wall bollox

Report johnnythebull May 1, 2017 11:00 PM BST
Grin
Report wondersobright May 1, 2017 11:02 PM BST
GET IN
Report Angela Rebecchi May 1, 2017 11:02 PM BST
GTFI there!!! LoveLoveLove
Report Angela Rebecchi May 1, 2017 11:02 PM BST
LoveLoveLoveLoveLoveLoveLove
Report Valiant May 1, 2017 11:02 PM BST
Forty tree remaining.
Report wondersobright May 1, 2017 11:03 PM BST
but not for long
Report wondersobright May 1, 2017 11:03 PM BST
shotttttttttttttt
Report Angela Rebecchi May 1, 2017 11:04 PM BST
Can't see us getting 5.0+ on Mark for a while now. Cat's well and truly out of the bag now.
Report wondersobright May 1, 2017 11:06 PM BST
a year is a long time in snooker but right now 3/1-7/2 looks about right selby for next year
Report Angela Rebecchi May 1, 2017 11:06 PM BST
3 times in 4 years Cool
Report wondersobright May 1, 2017 11:07 PM BST
he is perfectly set up for this event

other tournaments shorter frames etc not so much but shef he is made for
Report johnnythebull May 1, 2017 11:08 PM BST
genuine guy
Report Angela Rebecchi May 1, 2017 11:09 PM BST
Yeah, he's tailor made for it. Bloody nice chap too.
Report wondersobright May 1, 2017 11:09 PM BST
yes multiple world champs success easy to spoil certain people, doesn't seem like its changed mark too much lovely guy
Report peckerdunne May 1, 2017 11:13 PM BST
The daughter is a bit over exuberant Mark, have a word............Laugh
Report wondersobright May 1, 2017 11:14 PM BST
the 17 day marathon of the mind is over for another year

and boy do I need a restLaugh
Report peckerdunne May 1, 2017 11:16 PM BST
Hazel gone for a big break

Yes we all need a rest
Report wisewords May 1, 2017 11:24 PM BST
we're all snooker, loopy!
Report wisewords May 1, 2017 11:26 PM BST

May 1, 2017 -- 4:51PM, johnnythebull wrote:


would have to mop up that studio flooror maybe Davis and Parrot could put their tongues to work


LaughLaughLaugh

Report thegiggilo May 1, 2017 11:41 PM BST
est pressure player since Hendry,not even in first gear beautiful..Shocked
Report davyb May 2, 2017 12:23 AM BST
standard in that final was dire!!
just 4 tons on a table with pockets that big just confirms the poor standard of play.
Hendry would of got close to 10 tons alone on that table
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