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donny osmond
08 Jul 18 23:37
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a few days after agreeing terms with may




you cant polish a turd, it is reported....
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Report Wallflower July 8, 2018 11:41 PM BST
Replaced by Anna Soubry ?Cool
Report Wallflower July 8, 2018 11:47 PM BST
Seriously though.......  would any Brexiteer takes this on now?  But then have a Remainer as Brexit secretary.

Bit of a conundrum.
Report trilby22 July 8, 2018 11:48 PM BST
Sorry, I posted on CC when I heard it before seeing this.
Report donny osmond July 8, 2018 11:52 PM BST
unconfirmed reports that more letters are to be lodged calling for vote of no confidence in may


speculation suggests she will survive vote ,...but thats up in the air if she cant employ a cabinet ....
Report mafeking July 9, 2018 12:15 AM BST
may finished now surely
Report KeMoH July 9, 2018 12:24 AM BST
theresa the appeaser is now shirley... FINNISH. All aboard the Mogg Express; next stop 10 downing street!!
Report KeMoH July 9, 2018 12:26 AM BST
Davis is a man of integrity; putting country before party. he is the best PM we never had, and something tells me he will be back shortly...
Report anxious July 9, 2018 12:33 AM BST
rees fogg  lol ffs Laugh
Report KeMoH July 9, 2018 12:37 AM BST
anxious obviously another left-wing-luvvie; a champagne socialist who would be happy to sell this country down the river to those on the eu bandwagon/gravy train. how i despise tree-hugging, lefties who spend most of their time brown-nosing the likes of blair and dianne 'rancid' abbott. SHAME ON YOU
Report anxious July 9, 2018 12:43 AM BST
No i am from the back streets of Manchester actually , i have been Labour all my life for sure  but i voted to leave , but rees fogg as PM dont make me laugh
Report anxious July 9, 2018 12:44 AM BST
So before you talk through your back -side    think and listen
Report KeMoH July 9, 2018 12:44 AM BST
if you would vote for dianne abbott to become our home secretary then, quite frankly, your opinion is quite literally worthless
Report donny osmond July 9, 2018 12:45 AM BST
davis agreed to plan on friday , resigned on sunday

integrity, lol
Report anxious July 9, 2018 12:45 AM BST
The Spivs are hopeless bring on another election and lets get rid of them
Report KeMoH July 9, 2018 12:47 AM BST
lmao @ anxious. laughs at Rees-Mogg to become PM (a general 6/1 shot I'll have you know) but will be voting for dianne "immigrants built london" abbott.
Report KeMoH July 9, 2018 12:48 AM BST
this country is truly finished.
Report anxious July 9, 2018 12:49 AM BST
Your talking absolute garbage , the usual insults and nonsense from the tories
Report KeMoH July 9, 2018 12:50 AM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74nolQrr5Jo
Report anxious July 9, 2018 12:51 AM BST
They call themselves Patriots when in reality its the last thing they are , they only think of themselves, their money and power
Report KeMoH July 9, 2018 12:51 AM BST
your intelligence and loyalty to this once great country is questionable at best. once upon a time we used to hang traitors you know..
Report donny osmond July 9, 2018 12:51 AM BST
steve baker gone as well
Report anxious July 9, 2018 12:53 AM BST
loyalty do me a favour , yes they are loyal to their bank balances
Report enpassant July 9, 2018 1:28 AM BST

Jul 9, 2018 -- 12:51AM, KeMoH wrote:


your intelligence and loyalty to this once great country is questionable at best. once upon a time we used to hang traitors you know..


Absolutely pathetic

Report enpassant July 9, 2018 1:38 AM BST
" One of his fellow ministers remarked, "it's just a personal outburst", adding: "He is not exactly the cleverest, he has always struggled to muscle into any of the complicated arguments."
Report thegiggilo July 9, 2018 2:11 AM BST
Like he used to say on the buseses ''thats made my week butler''Lovejrm for pm can laugh at him for 12 months and out they go great stuff..Cool
Report 1st time poster July 9, 2018 4:19 AM BST
what do the likes of cleverly,gove etc think  after spending all day on tv singing the praises of this deal
Report dave1357 July 9, 2018 7:08 AM BST
Clearly Davis is the reason for the disastrous negotiations

As you know there have been a significant number of occasions in the last year or so on which I have disagreed with the Number 10 policy line, ranging from accepting the Commission's sequencing of negotiations through to the language on Northern Ireland in the December Joint Report.

So he has been deliberately obstructive in the negotiations right from the beginning.  What a disgrace of a man.
Report dave1357 July 9, 2018 7:10 AM BST

Jul 9, 2018 -- 12:51AM, KeMoH wrote:


your intelligence and loyalty to this once great country is questionable at best. once upon a time we used to hang traitors you know..


funnily enough it seems that it is people like Aaron Banks of Vote Leave who have actually been conspiring with foreign powers.

Report trilby22 July 9, 2018 7:40 AM BST
Conspiring with foreign powers?  Really?  Anyway, Aaron Banks is the co-founder of Leave.eu, something completely different.
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 9, 2018 8:40 AM BST
To be fair to him the weather's great, it's the final week of Wimbledon and we're in the semis of the World Cup.


I bet there were thousands of blokes last night thinking of handing in their notice and having a week long bender.
Report InsiderTrader July 9, 2018 10:42 AM BST
Dominic Raab takes over. Unbelievable.
Report InsiderTrader July 9, 2018 10:43 AM BST
Another failed housing minister taking a top job.
Report anxious July 9, 2018 10:50 AM BST
IT the whole thing is truly shambolic , i dont think anybody is going to get what they want
Report InsiderTrader July 9, 2018 10:50 AM BST
Talked a good game last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuATSDV6WvM

Must be in agreement with May's climb down now though.
Report Dr Crippen July 9, 2018 10:55 AM BST
The position of Brexit secretary is for show only.

May's been making all the decisions.
Report InsiderTrader July 9, 2018 10:58 AM BST
I disagree. The civil servants behind May have.
Report markzzz July 9, 2018 11:03 AM BST
There weren't many other candidates than Raab. It had to be a brixiteer, and none of the leading brexiteers would have touched the job. Very few left to choose from.
Report InsiderTrader July 9, 2018 11:05 AM BST
Weasel Adonis on Sky news now. 1.001 he will be pushing for referendum.
Report enpassant July 9, 2018 11:23 AM BST
And what of Peter Bone IT ? - a man destroyed on Newsnight by a sharper mind from industry, as being heavy on assertion and light on facts and evidence
Report InsiderTrader July 9, 2018 11:30 AM BST
URL please.
Report enpassant July 9, 2018 11:49 AM BST
I have tried to get the BBC link but that episode is not available : it was on 22/06/2018 and you can get parts of the exchange from secondary sites - here's one that you will probably like about it -https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/978465/brexit-news-peter-bone-airbus-thre... - primarily because it leaves out the chap b...h slapping Bone !
Report enpassant July 9, 2018 12:06 PM BST
"time to stand tall and proud, be confident" Steve Baker this is the problem with these brexiteers - all they have is rhetoric, slogans and at best guesswork - all this in place of the weight of evidence.
Report enpassant July 9, 2018 12:08 PM BST
Oh my goodness he is full of b0ll0x. Lots of stood and standing up. This is the level of the hardliners?
Report enpassant July 9, 2018 12:11 PM BST
"...childish nonsense coming out of No.10....childish briefing.." open warfare !
Report bigpoppapump July 9, 2018 12:12 PM BST
it's not the fault of the Brexit supporters that the act of leaving is exponentially more difficult than deciding whether or not you want to be in the EU.

This is just a practical demonstration that the two options on the referendum ballot paper were inaccurately presented as two equally attainable options.

they weren't then, and they aren't now, and all the foot stamping in the world cannot change it.
Report InsiderTrader July 9, 2018 12:19 PM BST
Leaving is actually extremely simple.

Remainers, of which May is one, are just trying to make is as difficult as possible to convince us to stay in.

Lots of countries have been successful after getting their independence from foreign rule.
Report enpassant July 9, 2018 12:22 PM BST
ERG - "..the stupidest mistake ever.." re inviting Labour MP's in for a chat about supporting the government in a vote !
Report bigpoppapump July 9, 2018 12:22 PM BST
yes of course it is.  You know best.
Report enpassant July 9, 2018 12:23 PM BST
You and Peter Bone eh IT - rhetoric and assertion to carry the day !
Report InsiderTrader July 9, 2018 12:25 PM BST
If remainers has been living in America in the 1770s they would have been in favour of staying under British rule. They would not have wanted to hassle of being independent and the trouble of cutting the apron strings. It cost them short term in lives and money. But in the long term it made them the richest country in the world by far.
Report enpassant July 9, 2018 12:29 PM BST
Rousing stuff there IT, rousing stuff.
Report InsiderTrader July 9, 2018 12:30 PM BST
The remainer solution is merely a sticking plaster to stay aligned with an organization hated by more and more people on the decline.
Report enpassant July 9, 2018 12:33 PM BST
Which (more and more)people
Report InsiderTrader July 9, 2018 12:37 PM BST
UK vote leave and UKIP, Germany Afd voters, Swedish Democrats, Polish Government, Hungry Government, Czech Government, Austrian Government, Italian Government, French Le Penn voters, Dutch Geert Wilders voters.
Report enpassant July 9, 2018 12:41 PM BST
Haven't many of these always been there but now get more media coverage because of brexit ? Many Leave voters would be happy with free movement stopped and no more. Some of these many don't give a fig one way or the other about the EU.
Report InsiderTrader July 9, 2018 12:48 PM BST
enpassant
09 Jul 18 12:41
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Haven't many of these always been there but now get more media coverage because of brexit ?

^

Seriously!?

Afd was formed in 2012 by middle class German patriots critical of the EU further integration, wanted direct democracy and opposed immigration.

It won 4.7% of the vote in 2013 - under 5% needed to have MPs.

2017 it won 12.6% of the vote and 94 seat.

So no it has not always been there.

Look at Italy. The Northern League was there. But now it is national and the 5S movement is new.

Things are changing.
Report enpassant July 9, 2018 12:50 PM BST
'patriots' ffs
They name has changed but the people remain the same IT - but you know that surely.
Report InsiderTrader July 9, 2018 12:53 PM BST
So what was the Afd before and what percentage of the national vote did they have?
Report enpassant July 9, 2018 12:55 PM BST
Before what ?
Report bigpoppapump July 9, 2018 12:55 PM BST
IT absolutely seething
Report enpassant July 9, 2018 1:00 PM BST
Are the ADF fascists IT in your opinion ?
Report InsiderTrader July 9, 2018 1:00 PM BST
'All racists are leavers'...seriously?

The predominately white EU has a racist policy of blocking trade with the predominately coloured developing world by imposing massive tariffs.

Free movement of people gives people from the predominately white EU much easier access to move to Britain than people from the predominately coloured developing world.

Look we could redebate the referendum again. But what is the point? Your outdated views are entrenched.
Report InsiderTrader July 9, 2018 1:02 PM BST
enpassant
09 Jul 18 13:00
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Are the ADF fascists IT in your opinion ?

^

Of course not.

A fascist is a follower of a political philosophy characterized by authoritarian views and a strong central government — and no tolerance for opposing opinions.

The EU commission has those characteristics though.
Report enpassant July 9, 2018 1:13 PM BST

Jul 9, 2018 -- 1:00PM, InsiderTrader wrote:


'All racists are leavers'...seriously?The predominately white EU has a racist policy of blocking trade with the predominately coloured developing world by imposing massive tariffs.Free movement of people gives people from the predominately white EU much easier access to move to Britain than people from the predominately coloured developing world.Look we could redebate the referendum again. But what is the point? Your outdated views are entrenched.


Your the one posting about the EU people I was talking about 'Leave voters' clearly in this country.

Report enpassant July 9, 2018 1:14 PM BST
You really struggle to answer a straight forward question with a straight forward answer - AND YOU ARE ONE THE THE BETTER POSTERS FOR LEAVE ON HERE ! Assertion and rhetoric stand with leave.
Report InsiderTrader July 9, 2018 1:18 PM BST
enpassant
09 Jul 18 13:14
Joined: 03 Jun 15
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You really struggle to answer a straight forward question with a straight forward answe

^

You asked:
Are the ADF fascists IT in your opinion ?

I replied:
Of course not.

What is so hard to understand about my reply?
Report enpassant July 9, 2018 1:27 PM BST
What's happened across some of the Eu is that otherwise non racists find they have something in common with a section of far right policy. When the economy of a country is depressed people have looked to blame a section of peoples that are not quite the same as them. That is all that is happening here - history repeating itself over and over again.
The right live in fear, scared of their own shadows, insular in thinking, wanting everything to look and sound just like them. That is a sad thing and is difficult to address but it should not drag us back in time.
Hard brexit is not an option - so, it is likely, we will be left with a brexit that binds us to the same rules as when we were members but with no power to vote on change or we just accept that brexit is not an option in and of itself.
Report enpassant July 9, 2018 1:29 PM BST
And I was clearly, as we were posting about the ADF, talking of German fascism - Italian fascism was the more politically accurate definition of it.
Report InsiderTrader July 9, 2018 1:46 PM BST
Sorry who do you claim is 'fascist' and why?
Report moisok July 9, 2018 1:50 PM BST
enpassant - NO THEY DON'T -  they blame the politicoes

and I am a fkn socialist

hope this helps
Report InsiderTrader July 9, 2018 1:57 PM BST
enpassant
09 Jul 18 13:27
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What's happened across some of the Eu is that otherwise non racists find they have something in common with a section of far right policy. When the economy of a country is depressed people have looked to blame a section of peoples that are not quite the same as them. That is all that is happening here - history repeating itself over and over again.

^

Interesting analysis.

1. So by opposing uncontrolled immigration because infrastructure cannot support millions more unskilled people is a fascist in your opinion?
2. opposing uncontrolled immigration of some groups who do not integrate well into our society and do not agree with British liberal values is fascist in your opinion?
3. opposing being governed by an authoritarian strong central European Commission is fascist in your opinion?
Report moisok July 9, 2018 2:03 PM BST
well he does live there so I guess he wants to defend it  like a lot of others who have their own selfish interests to cover

a nice fat gravy train (can you have a fat gravy train- discuss)
Report enpassant July 9, 2018 2:05 PM BST

Jul 9, 2018 -- 1:46PM, InsiderTrader wrote:


Sorry who do you claim is 'fascist' and why?


I made no such claim- you so often do this IT and it does you no credit at all.

Report moisok July 9, 2018 2:06 PM BST
Eussr backers have this way about them - they even have a 350 million euro funding for the propaganda department.
Report anxious July 9, 2018 2:08 PM BST
Bullingdon could be next to go , not turned up for COBRA meeting  ? Shocked
Report InsiderTrader July 9, 2018 2:20 PM BST
You are the one who started talking about fascists. I did not.

What are you actually trying to say?
Report enpassant July 9, 2018 2:27 PM BST
It is there for you to read IT if you choose to read it as it is.
Report InsiderTrader July 9, 2018 2:34 PM BST
What you have written is unclear. You clearly do not like my responses.

Why not try and write it concisely saying exactly you want to say?
Report moisok July 9, 2018 3:20 PM BST
all those opposed to the eu are fascists  - FACT
Report tanglefoot July 9, 2018 4:18 PM BST
The EUROCRATS response,the British can all become turd polishers
Report enpassant July 9, 2018 5:07 PM BST
IT: the conversation was fluid so you can check out what aspect of it you wish. 

brexit is dead !

I hope that is concise enough for you.
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