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24 Jun 18 09:26
Date Joined: 19 Feb 06
| Topic/replies: 6,428 | Blogger: melv's blog
He has been shiiiiiite on Brexit. We all know why. He's remainer and so are millions of labour voters in the Tedford to Tyneside swathe.

He should be hinest about his thought.

And Albour should be engageing with the abive voters. They have gone to UKIP and wose because labour has been ingnoring and letting them down for generations.

However however. It is tactically good for him to take the flack. So Sir Keir Starmer can rise in like a knight in shinning armour when we a have general election to win. Meanwhile let the Tories keep drinking the poison of Brexit. Politics is a very very dirty business all round. Bastards. Just hope MY bastards get in next time.
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Report PorcupineorPineapple June 24, 2018 9:30 AM BST
Corbyn's been really smart for the first time in a while. He was actually in a refugee camp in Palestine. So when the question's asked he can take the moral high ground.

If only he'd show the same smarts elsewhere.
Report anxious June 24, 2018 9:32 AM BST
I think you will find that Jeremy has been anti-EU for about the last 35 years , why would anybody who supports Socialism have anything to do with  an Unelected Bankers Club ?
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 24, 2018 9:51 AM BST
Because being part of that club ensures jobs for thousands of working class people.
Report anxious June 24, 2018 10:02 AM BST
pp but isnt it true that Spain , Italy , Greece etc all have very high level of Unemployment , i accept that not all of that is due to the EU, look i voted to leave but im not a fanatic about it, but whoever you are ruled by in Capitalism they will shaft working people
Report flushgordon1 June 24, 2018 10:06 AM BST
Ffs I am in agreement with anxious ,    Youth unemployment rate
Austria    10.1%
Belgium    17.7%
Bulgaria    10.4%
Croatia    23.3%
Cyprus***    22.8%
Czechia    6.8%
Denmark    9.5%
Estonia**    10.5%
EU    15.6%
Euro area    17.3%
Report lfc1971 June 24, 2018 10:08 AM BST
being in the EU ensures that working class people cant get jobs, and that their wages and conditions worsen
Report flushgordon1 June 24, 2018 10:09 AM BST
Youth unemployment rate
Sweden    16.4%
Spain    35%
Slovenia    9.6%
Slovakia    18.4%
Romania    16.8%
Portugal    21.3%
Poland    13.8%
Netherlands    7%
Malta    8.8%
Luxembourg    13.9%
Report flushgordon1 June 24, 2018 10:13 AM BST
And the most important statement at the bottom increasing immigration reduces wages,figures from European statistics 2018.In the European Union and the euro area, unemployment in general has been on the rise since 2008, which is due to the economic crisis which caused bankruptcy and financial trouble for many employers, and thus led to considerable job loss, less job offerings, and consequently, to a rise of the unemployment rate. Older workers are struggling to find new jobs despite their experience, and young graduates are struggling to find new jobs, because they have none. All in all, the number of unemployed persons worldwide is projected to rise, this is not down to the economic crisis alone, but also the industrial automation of processes previously performed by workers, as well as rising population figures.
Report lfc1971 June 24, 2018 10:15 AM BST
in effect Britain is subsidising multi national companies to run a business model that drains money out of the UK
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 24, 2018 10:19 AM BST
If I thought for a second that leaving the EU will improve work here, that it would lead to more jobs, higher average wages, lower inflation, better conditions then I'd support it.

But I'm yet to see any coherent argument that it will. Sorry.

Companies are international now. And even if a company is solely based here you can be certain that its competitors are from abroad. In a year we could have tariffs, queues on parts, a struggle to fill vacancies, demand for higher wages from staff, inflation as everything is going up and we'll be expected to compete with foreign firms for whom none of these things are happening.

That's not Project Fear as some would love to glibly dismiss it, it's just the cold hard reality. It was a bad decision and it has been organised awfully since. This could take decades to rectify.
Report lfc1971 June 24, 2018 10:23 AM BST
A good and prosperous and well run economy should , by definition, struggle to fill vacancies
Report lfc1971 June 24, 2018 10:25 AM BST
When a country is in that happy situation it can consider immigration

of the right type of people, ie the same culture and religion etc
Report lfc1971 June 24, 2018 10:28 AM BST
anything else is too much trouble, and too dangerous
Report lfc1971 June 24, 2018 10:40 AM BST
jobs created are increasingly low wage jobs , in supply chains of multi nationals
this means there is no corporation tax for the UK, any vat etc goes to Brussels

income tax can be non existent , its unsustainable really
Report lfc1971 June 24, 2018 10:44 AM BST
its a model that simply cant provide for the public services and NHS and pensions and benefits etc that we all hope to have
Report Dotchinite June 24, 2018 1:58 PM BST
Corbyn wants a hard Brexit just as much as Rees Mogg does. When will his supporters realise this. In fact Corbyns brexit would be the hardest as he wouldnt get trade deals with virtually anyone.
Report posy June 26, 2018 1:44 PM BST
I voted to Remain (as that's what my children want) however my heart says Leave. I've little doubt that when we leave the economy will initially slump and probably for a generation there will be hardship on a par with that of the 1980s. Thereafter the economy will recover and in 20 years time or so I suspect we will have rehabilitated ourselves as a prosperous nation....but as I say I anticipate a very rough ride to get there.
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