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Eeternaloptimist
02 Sep 13 01:05
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In The Independent:

The majority of British voters believe immigration does more harm to the country than good, according to a major poll.

In an authoritative survey of more than 20,000 people, 60 per cent felt there were more disadvantages than advantages to foreigners coming to live in the UK.

Just one in six believed that immigration was a good thing for Britain overall, according to the research commissioned by the former Conservative party deputy chairman Lord Ashcroft.

The most common concern surrounding immigration was the idea that migrants put pressure on the benefits system and public services by using them without contributing in return. This outweighed fears that foreigners took jobs that might otherwise go to British workers, or that they changed the character and culture of local areas.

The results of the poll were nonetheless varied, with Lord Ashcroft splitting the population into seven "segments" of opinion – from the 16 per cent of British people who exhibit "Universal Hostility" towards immigration at one end of the spectrum to the 10 per cent who are "Militant Multiculturalists" at the other.

Overall, 77 per cent of those polled believed a dramatic reduction in immigration would benefit the economy. Just over a third said they were concerned a friend or relative had struggled with competition for employment from migrants, while a quarter said they had been denied access to housing or another public service because priority seemed to have been given to a foreigner.

In terms of the perceived advantages of immigration, the most popular aspect was the idea migrants would do jobs British people aren’t willing to do, and would work harder for lower wages. This rated higher than any cultural contributions or specific, specialist skill-sets brought in from abroad.

The research also used the Home Office’s recent “Go Home or Face Arrest” ad van campaign as a case study to assess opinions on immigration policy.

It found that nearly 80 per cent of the public supported the use of the banners, representing majorities in favour from all of the major political parties.
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Report SqueezeFirmly September 2, 2013 1:46 AM BST
Northernlad will report that ^^^^^

This will be the first post on here by the morning, or the thread will be gone.
Report Dr Crippen September 2, 2013 9:43 AM BST
The case against immigration at the levels we've been seeing in the UK is overwhelming.

Nevertheless it’s difficult to knock it on here without your post being taken down.

Perhaps someone can tell us something good about the situation that we have in the UK regarding immigration because I can’t think of a single thing?

Apart from bringing down wages and pushing up rents. And that’s only if you’re in a position to cash in on it.
Report wildmanfromborneo September 2, 2013 11:36 AM BST
It is tragic watching a nation that brought so much to the world being wiped out,all the things about British culture being denigrated her history being constantly pilloried all to placate an invader.

It is now probably too late but it would be great to see the British take their country back.
Report SqueezeFirmly September 2, 2013 12:01 PM BST
wildmanfromborneo
02 Sep 13 11:36   
It is tragic watching a nation that brought so much to the world being wiped out,all the things about British culture being denigrated


Northernlad will be along later and tell you that Britain has no culture, as we are all of foreign origin.

Meanwhile, on a thread on chit chat, the very same northernlad said it's illegal to throw abuse at people of foreign origin. Unless you happen to be northernlad of course, and we British don't count as foreign when he is hurling abuse about the forum.

He even accused me of shouting in his wifes ear that she should 'go home'. I've never met his wife, and if it's true that she's white, how would anybody know that she's foreign.
Report Ivor September 2, 2013 12:17 PM BST
We just need a few politicians to carry out what the General Pubics want!
Report gus September 2, 2013 5:30 PM BST
the British live in a number of countries. If the English want to take their country back they're welcome to it imo.
Report Dr Crippen September 2, 2013 6:42 PM BST
^Just remember who gave it away.
Report wildmanfromborneo September 2, 2013 7:07 PM BST
Why is it that all left wingers hate their own country,gus and Northernlad prime examples.

There isint a Brit anywhere milking someone else's welfare system so you are not comparing like with like.
Report gus September 2, 2013 7:14 PM BST
what makes you think i hate my own country wildman? ... i'm actually quite keen on it.
Report macarony September 2, 2013 7:19 PM BST
You love Scotland dislike the English?^^^
Report gus September 2, 2013 7:29 PM BST
i like Scotland and i'm indifferent as to England, except of course, our Comrades in the Republic of Cornwall.
Report gus September 2, 2013 7:50 PM BST
we have an education system that teaches about different religions and different cultures and presents British history and culture in a more citically neutral way than they were presented when i was at school, and i'd say that in those respects (tho possibly not others), it's a far superior system to the one that i  endured.
Report northernlad5 September 2, 2013 8:04 PM BST
Wildman,
How is Islam an inferior religion than for example Christianity or Judhaism?
Explain?

How exactly does the education system in England & Wales make young people "hate themselves"?
Report A.H HUNTER esq. September 2, 2013 8:07 PM BST
Why? Because it is not mine and I have no regard for it and am not interested innit.

  And it is backward and controlling .

Next question?
Report northernlad5 September 2, 2013 8:25 PM BST
The reason is that the English are not in the slightest bit interested in a patron saint (St George) born in Palestine and a Roman soldier who was executed for refusing to kill Christians.

Depictions of him killing the dragon, does neither endear him to the Welsh.

No Englishman can identify with him, that's why the English don't celebrate St George.
He never even visited Britain or had anything remotely to do with it.
Report Shanelee1966 September 2, 2013 10:32 PM BST
It`s the enemy within that`s the real problem.
Report A.H HUNTER esq. September 3, 2013 9:12 AM BST
The real reason is we have a Queen ,but the flag of St George has replaced the Union Jack as the flag of national identity.
Report Dr Crippen September 3, 2013 12:49 PM BST
Perhaps someone can tell us something good about the situation that we have in the UK regarding immigration because I can’t think of a single thing?

Apart from the two points I mentioned with regard to bringing down wages and pushing up rents of course

No doubt I'll be in for a long wait.
Report SqueezeFirmly September 3, 2013 3:14 PM BST
No Englishman can identify with him, that's why the English don't celebrate St George.
He never even visited Britain or had anything remotely to do with it.


I know plenty of people who drape St George flags over their properties when England play football.
Report Dr Crippen September 3, 2013 4:02 PM BST
In the news today.
As the immigration disaster chickens come home to roost.

‘’Almost half of England's school districts will have more primary pupils than places within two years, the Local Government Association (LGA) has said.
Some local areas will face a 20% shortfall in places by 2015, according to analysis of official data from 2012’’
BBC news

And parents are worried that their English-speaking tots are in the minority in many schools these days. Soon they’ll be lucky to have a school to go to let alone get a half decent education.

Alan Johnson once said that he was quite relaxed about the population hitting 70 million.

He would be!
Because him and his irresponsible Labour government created the mess, and now they can sit on the sidelines and snipe at another government as they try and manage the morass that Labour left behind.

There are simply too many people to support now, and the cake isn’t big enough to go around.

Well done New Labour – the workingman’s party.
Report Ivor September 3, 2013 4:34 PM BST
I agree with the Doctor : Doctor's are always right.
Report bazzar September 5, 2013 1:19 PM BST
Some of we BRITISH would prefer that SPHINCTER EMIGRATE and so put an end to his interminable rhetorical questions.
Report Eeternaloptimist September 5, 2013 9:06 PM BST
Good to see you've now got over your brush with David Frost bizarre. Laugh
Report bazzar September 6, 2013 1:52 PM BST
Gives me great pleasure to see you responding to SPHINCTER, you know your name.
Report Eeternaloptimist September 6, 2013 5:55 PM BST
Given your antiquity I think you've earned the right to call me what you like.
Report moisok September 7, 2013 2:26 PM BST
those of us on the left have a lot to answer for
the population has been consistently lied to and the knuckle draggers and 'nazi's on here have been right
I cannot believe the left have no answers to this and admitted what a cck up it has been
had to laugh - they had the newspapers on bbc news this morning you should have seen how quickly the woman hid
the mail front page with a copy of the  express  Immigration being the subject ha ha   
but no bias  ha ha ha ha!!!
Report moisok September 7, 2013 2:27 PM BST
ps one of the funniest things is how the intelligensia on here have told us it is not an issue
ha ha ha ha ha
Report moisok September 7, 2013 2:41 PM BST
soon immigrants from the eu will be able to sue if shown to suffer from discrimination in employment
so forget employing our own people anymore ha hahahah

you have no idea what the eu is up to
it has its own propaganda machine and is slowly taking over by stealth
forget about having a national identity soon!!!!  watch this space
Report Mighty Whites 2008 September 8, 2013 12:41 PM BST
forget about having a national identity soon!!!!  watch this space

That was the plan around immigration/migration all along
Report reculver September 12, 2013 7:01 PM BST
And now the Labour luvvies want us to forgive them and forget about it...WAAAAANKERS
Report A.H HUNTER esq. September 12, 2013 7:21 PM BST
They should be blaming Labour and their covert policy to swamp the country with immigrants for political gain.

Who knows though some people are unable to comprehend what they did?
Report cryoftruth September 12, 2013 7:28 PM BST
another thread from the usual Hitler lovers; the sorts who hate black people so much they squirm. I remember the splendid thread about how Danny Boyle's marvellous Olympic opening ceremony was "polluted" by all the black British faces.

These people, so bigoted and twisted with hate that they can only post about the race issue, are ruining the forum with their bile and hatred.
Report A.H HUNTER esq. September 12, 2013 7:45 PM BST
Dont shoot the messengers.
Report moisok September 12, 2013 8:07 PM BST
funny how we were all branded nazis and that the electorate weren't interested in the issue
ha ha
now it ranks second in important issues -why do certain elements etc want to cover all that has gone on in the last decade or so

immigration doesn't just involve black people - I am not sure but doesn't eu immigration count for the largest number?
if so then someone is trying to make a racial issue out of this
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