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RacingLuck
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1.01      €15,059     
1.02      €11,652     
1.03      €11,479     
1.04      €9,611     
1.05      €4,000     
1.06      €990     
1.07      €1,183     
1.08      €4,514     
1.09      €1,343     
1.10      €1,836     
1.11      €1,058     
1.12      €4,769     
1.13      €2,275     
1.14      €1,783     
1.15      €4,061     
1.16      €2,479     
1.17      €1,600     
1.18      €667     
1.19      €108     
1.20      €1,356
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Report The Spinmaster March 14, 2019 4:12 PM GMT
Has this ever happened before?
Report McCoy Carp March 14, 2019 4:13 PM GMT
Cry
Report themightymac March 14, 2019 4:14 PM GMT
It deserved to win. Unreal.
Report themightymac March 14, 2019 4:15 PM GMT
Biggest price matched on winner?
Report Willie Shafter. March 14, 2019 4:17 PM GMT
440 for coppers
Report themightymac March 14, 2019 4:19 PM GMT
Thanks.
Report RacingLuck March 14, 2019 4:19 PM GMT

Mar 14, 2019 -- 11:12AM, The Spinmaster wrote:


Has this ever happened before?


more than ever Crazy

Report RacingLuck March 14, 2019 4:20 PM GMT
hope it didn't effect you too much willie Cry
Report Willie Shafter. March 14, 2019 4:24 PM GMT
dont worry...nothing i do effects me.
Report RacingLuck March 14, 2019 4:27 PM GMT
glad to hear Cool
Report dustybin March 14, 2019 4:27 PM GMT
Weststreet     300.00     1.95     Back     14-Mar-19 16:06     583.05
Weststreet     100.00     5.00     Back     14-Mar-19 16:06     495.00

dont know if it went higher
Report Willie Shafter. March 14, 2019 4:28 PM GMT
throwing darts occasionally hits the board.
Report jamesdean March 14, 2019 4:29 PM GMT
Just a fluke dusty
Report Willie Shafter. March 14, 2019 4:32 PM GMT
when you single bets out it never shows the true picture..does it james Laugh
Report dustybin March 14, 2019 4:33 PM GMT
Id laid it before the bend james
then thought the leader might not get home

and it dint
Report jamesdean March 14, 2019 4:33 PM GMT
I was being sarcastic wullie! I'm stayin out of it now Blush
Report Willie Shafter. March 14, 2019 4:34 PM GMT
then thought the leader might not get home

pmsl.
Report dustybin March 14, 2019 4:34 PM GMT
Horse Racing: £482.84  Total P&L:  £482.84

Horse Racing     Showing 1 - 14 of 14 markets
Market     Start time     Settled date     Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / MrktR 14th Mar : 2m7f Hcap Hrd     14-Mar-19 16:25     14-Mar-19 16:32     86.36
Horse Racing / Chelt 14th Mar : 2m4f Grd3 Hcap Chs     14-Mar-19 16:10     14-Mar-19 16:17     45.05
Horse Racing / Hex 14th Mar : 4m Hcap Chs     14-Mar-19 15:55     14-Mar-19 16:09     -0.90
Horse Racing / MrktR 14th Mar : 2m4f Hcap Hrd     14-Mar-19 15:45     14-Mar-19 15:53     11.68
Horse Racing / Chelt 14th Mar : 3m Grd1 Hrd     14-Mar-19 15:30     14-Mar-19 15:37     95.44
Horse Racing / Hex 14th Mar : 2m7f Hcap Hrd     14-Mar-19 15:15     14-Mar-19 15:22     15.95
Horse Racing / MrktR 14th Mar : 3m Hcap Chs     14-Mar-19 15:05     14-Mar-19 15:13     20.16
Horse Racing / Chelt 14th Mar : 2m4f Grd1 Chs     14-Mar-19 14:50     14-Mar-19 14:56     70.96
Horse Racing / Hex 14th Mar : 3m Nov Hcap Chs     14-Mar-19 14:35     14-Mar-19 14:44     22.05
Horse Racing / MrktR 14th Mar : 2m Hcap Hrd     14-Mar-19 14:25     14-Mar-19 14:30     7.13
Horse Racing / Chelt 14th Mar : 3m Grd3 Hcap Hrd     14-Mar-19 14:10     14-Mar-19 14:17     40.29
Horse Racing / Hex 14th Mar : 2m Nov Hrd     14-Mar-19 13:55     14-Mar-19 14:02     7.66
Horse Racing / MrktR 14th Mar : 2m4f Nov Hrd     14-Mar-19 13:45     14-Mar-19 13:51     12.89
Horse Racing / Chelt 14th Mar : 2m4f Grd1 Nov Chs     14-Mar-19 13:30     14-Mar-19 13:35     48.12
Report dustybin March 14, 2019 4:35 PM GMT
just minding my own
on the LV
no factime fees nor expenses
just keep the money coming ta
Report hulk23 March 14, 2019 4:36 PM GMT
well played dusty, tidy profit ..
Report dustybin March 14, 2019 4:37 PM GMT
and and honest one hulk ta
Report jamesdean March 14, 2019 4:42 PM GMT
same here dusty, it all adds up Cool


Horse Racing: £466.85  Total P&L:  £466.85


Horse Racing
Showing 1 - 10 of 10 markets
Market
Start time
Settled date
Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / MrktR 14th Mar : 2m7f Hcap Hrd
14-Mar-19 16:25
14-Mar-19 16:32
17.50
Horse Racing / Hex 14th Mar : 4m Hcap Chs
14-Mar-19 15:55
14-Mar-19 16:09
10.98
Horse Racing / MrktR 14th Mar : 2m4f Hcap Hrd
14-Mar-19 15:45
14-Mar-19 15:53
16.42
Horse Racing / Chelt 14th Mar : 3m Grd1 Hrd
14-Mar-19 15:30
14-Mar-19 15:37
17.16
Horse Racing / Hex 14th Mar : 2m7f Hcap Hrd
14-Mar-19 15:15
14-Mar-19 15:22
-3.57
Horse Racing / MrktR 14th Mar : 3m Hcap Chs
14-Mar-19 15:05
14-Mar-19 15:13
107.36
Horse Racing / Hex 14th Mar : 3m Nov Hcap Chs
14-Mar-19 14:35
14-Mar-19 14:44
10.90
Horse Racing / Chelt 14th Mar : 3m Grd3 Hcap Hrd
14-Mar-19 14:10
14-Mar-19 14:17
22.15
Horse Racing / Hex 14th Mar : 2m Nov Hrd
14-Mar-19 13:55
14-Mar-19 14:02
0.00
Horse Racing / Chelt 14th Mar : 2m4f Grd1 Nov Chs
14-Mar-19 13:30
14-Mar-19 13:35
267.95

Profit and Loss is shown net of commission.
All times are UKT



unless otherwise stated
Report dustybin March 14, 2019 4:44 PM GMT


slow and steady james Wink

running around for an advantage aint my style
Report RacingLuck March 14, 2019 4:44 PM GMT
wd boys Happy
Report bugs bunny March 14, 2019 4:48 PM GMT
surely these track players must be struggling with all the exes Happy
Report McCoy Carp March 14, 2019 4:48 PM GMT
Horse Racing: -£246.98  Total P&L:  -£246.98

Horse Racing > Hex 14th Mar : 4m Hcap Chs     Showing 1 - 5 of 5 Selections
Selection     Odds     Stake(£)     Bid type     Placed     Profit/loss(£)
Finaghy Ayr     *     23.10     20.00     Back           -20.00
Letemgo     73.17     30.00     Back     14-Mar-19 12:31     -30.00
Misfits     21.65     20.00     Back     14-Mar-19 12:31     -20.00
Total Assets     8.60     20.00     Back     14-Mar-19 12:31     -20.00
Very First Time     9.00     20.00     Back     14-Mar-19 12:31     -20.00
*Average odds: On Off     Back subtotal:     -110.00
Lay subtotal:     0.00
Market subtotal:     -110.00
Commission :     0.00
Net Market Total:     -110.00

Glad someone's winning, think that was one of the worst ones I've known for getting done on the run in, still has my late Dad would say, that's racing
Report Willie Shafter. March 14, 2019 4:49 PM GMT
post your last 3mths and we'll compare?
Report dustybin March 14, 2019 4:51 PM GMT
has it improved then from the last showing?
Report hulk23 March 14, 2019 4:51 PM GMT
yours doesn't include your crippling exes though ...
Report jamesdean March 14, 2019 4:54 PM GMT
or his p+l away from the tracks where he has a huge advantage i.e the ones where he is on a level playing field
with the majority. Lv tracks only
Report bugs bunny March 14, 2019 5:05 PM GMT
Excited its gone quiet
Report Willie Shafter. March 14, 2019 5:08 PM GMT
post your last 3mths and we'll compare?

was to bugs.
Report Willie Shafter. March 14, 2019 5:11 PM GMT
throw 7 quid away to win 1000 and lose on race? i'd be embarrassed to post.
Report dustybin March 14, 2019 5:14 PM GMT
I guess that was to me I take it?

so losing 90p all day not efficient enough for you cos you wear your pants over your trouser and think you are superman, when its just the time advantage that has given you the chance
Report Willie Shafter. March 14, 2019 5:19 PM GMT
if you aint bothered about a time advantage why were you paying £450 a week for facetime?
Report dustybin March 14, 2019 5:25 PM GMT
Because steve, as you well know when cheats have to create and edge to compensate for their inability everyone downstream has to cut their cloth accordingly.

So I took it to see what it was like, how long exactly was that for then?
How long have you been paying for it now?
Report Willie Shafter. March 14, 2019 5:31 PM GMT
apologies...was it just a week? Laugh
Report Willie Shafter. March 14, 2019 5:32 PM GMT
im embarrassed you've said 'cheat'...walofs
Report Willie Shafter. March 14, 2019 5:34 PM GMT
tis a bit like yrs ago when you used to fill your self with charlie most nights and abuse me every night on the form...then apologise the next morn..

'cheat' Laugh
Report dustybin March 14, 2019 5:36 PM GMT
you can come out with all this ambiguity about how those who break their neck trying to acheive an advantage are technically not cheating....but you cant convince those of us who know about betting.
You sit on the line an collect money from people who havnt seen the winner....or rather you used to.

Ive been around 15 years, and appologised twice because Im a decent type who was brought up right.
Report Willie Shafter. March 14, 2019 5:37 PM GMT
so when you were paying £450 a week for mths and mths were you not cheating those on sky?
Report Willie Shafter. March 14, 2019 5:38 PM GMT
its down to 'inability' but you were paying 2k a mth for the 2nd quickest pics?

im fkkkukin pmsl.
Report dustybin March 14, 2019 5:40 PM GMT
for how long?
Report dustybin March 14, 2019 5:41 PM GMT
months and months....tried your hardest to make 2 months look a long time eh?
Report Willie Shafter. March 14, 2019 5:42 PM GMT
mths from me and longer for your alternative supplier ...pmsl
Report andyl March 14, 2019 5:42 PM GMT
dustys dug a deep hole here .
Report dustybin March 14, 2019 5:43 PM GMT
so you know all this as fact I take it?
Report Willie Shafter. March 14, 2019 5:43 PM GMT
do you want me to post the bank deposits?
Report dustybin March 14, 2019 5:44 PM GMT
haha out you come andy working you with his foot again
tell me why Ive dug a hole?
I took the ft briefly, steve and co on the other hand cant do without it
Report dustybin March 14, 2019 5:45 PM GMT
Ill log in later and count exactly how many
I take it you not still having em then?
Report Willie Shafter. March 14, 2019 5:45 PM GMT
mths from me and longer for your alternative supplier

is that iyo 'brief' wac
Report Willie Shafter. March 14, 2019 5:45 PM GMT
and all becos you luckily dont have the 'inability'.

Laugh
Report Willie Shafter. March 14, 2019 5:46 PM GMT
anyways thats me out of ear.
Report dustybin March 14, 2019 5:46 PM GMT
guessing again and wrong
f uckin rich coming from the guy who tries to avoid the fact you had em all the time and still havin em
Report dustybin March 14, 2019 5:53 PM GMT
Willie Shafter. • March 14, 2019 5:42 PM GMT
mths from me and longer for your alternative supplier ...pmsl

You not only using but selling too?
Report andyl March 14, 2019 9:33 PM GMT
I thought dusty would of understood the meaning of hypocrite. Sadly not Grin
Report dustybin March 14, 2019 10:26 PM GMT
I know it’s ‘would have’ not ‘would of’.
Andy do you not think your time would be better spent locating your own self respect, other than being a professional knosher and teabagging facilitator?

Just to clarify, when people go to the track simply to use that time advantage, it maybe ‘legal’ but it’s totally unethical (and it’s only legal because of the lax way those tasked with regulating the industry don’t do a proper job)
But the knock on effect is that it creates pressure on all others, who have to do things to defend their position. It’s about levels one is prepared to go to.
I have had brief access to streams and to a latter day slowed down feed. But the very argument people always tried to use to justify use of such things, that of something closer to a level playing field, turned out to be nothing more than a mealy mouthed excuse, since when LV got that bit closer to that said position how many stopped using the illegal products?

That’s my point, the shallowness of those who will resort to anything like they are entitled, and that if they can’t prove merit without their use believe it’s just to keep using them.....then moan that liquidity is 5hit, or that they aren’t making as much as they used to etc.
Well part of the problem is because they’ve been ramming the advantage down users throats for so long why would people get involved?
Report andyl March 14, 2019 11:21 PM GMT
still doesnt distract from the stated fact that you're a hypocrite.
Report dustybin March 15, 2019 12:43 AM GMT
Rubbish.

Having never been on course for IR purposes I’m perfectly within my rights for criticising those that have to.
Also, of the short period I had streams they weren’t even the fast ones, they were barely quicker than LV, and this was pre speeding up of LV. Actions speak louder than words, I’ve not accessed anything faster than LV since the improve.

But all that’s by the by, considering I fail to see how any of this is relevant  to the tidy honest work done by me and others while not using faster pics.
Report Rob_The_Bantam March 15, 2019 12:57 AM GMT
In WS's defence, he's never claimed to have any ability.  He specialises in laying fallers and backing horses that have already won.
Report dustybin March 15, 2019 6:07 AM GMT
I’ve just realised Steve thought I had the bets on the winner for a grand and laid em off thinking it wouldn’t get up only to lose.

WAC

It was the opposite. The guys head is banjaxed
I’d layer it with a grand far out then got me money back when the assumed winner he must have thought home and hosed...well I wasn’t so sure, and was proved correct.

Sloppy track players thinking they just need to travel to pick up money, while home players get mocked for being industrious and keeping a tight ship
Report Willie Shafter. March 15, 2019 10:27 AM GMT
The sloppy track player has no mortgage or rent to pay.
Report Willie Shafter. March 15, 2019 10:52 AM GMT
Willie Shafter.    14 Mar 19 17:37 
so when you were paying £450 a week for mths and mths were you not cheating those on sky?

Willie Shafter.    14 Mar 19 17:38 
its down to 'inability' but you were paying 2k a mth for the 2nd quickest pics?

dustybin    14 Mar 19 17:40 
for how long?

dustybin    14 Mar 19 17:41 
months and months....tried your hardest to make 2 months look a long time eh?

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nearly 4mths from me at a cost to you and your associate over £4,000,then you obtained the facetime from an alternative supplier for mths...all to obtain faster pictures than most of the country,yet you label me a 'cheat' Laugh

andys 'hypocrite' comment was indeed an accurate comment.

if you dispute what ive said im quite happy to post a screenshot of the transactions.
Its a strange bird the hedgehog.
Report dustybin March 15, 2019 11:22 AM GMT
Willie Shafter. • March 15, 2019 10:27 AM GMT
The sloppy track player has no mortgage or rent to pay.

I've never doubted it, and I've said as much that you've taken a fair amount of cash out the game, for that you can be forever grateful that racing allowed you to make the money you did the way you did.

Willie Shafter.    14 Mar 19 17:37
so when you were paying £450 a week for mths and mths were you not cheating those on sky?
The cancer originates from the slowing of pics, if I countered the insidious delay to hinder the likes of you cheating me, who were you countering, or is it that you were the source of the problem?
Indeed for the period in question I was fractionally ahead of sky, but clarification on that issue follows.


Willie Shafter.    14 Mar 19 17:38
its down to 'inability' but you were paying 2k a mth for the 2nd quickest pics?
For now I await the info from the said 'associate' to clarify exactly the time period as that account is no longer used. The point about 'second quickest pics' is again incorrect. The person receiving the facetime has the second quickest pic, that was not me. The third quickest pic are those receiving what those receiving the facetime from the track get then send out, again that wasnt me who got that.


nearly 4mths from me at a cost to you and your associate over £4,000,then you obtained the facetime from an alternative supplier for mths...all to obtain faster pictures than most of the country,yet you label me a 'cheat' Laugh

As you well know I do know another supplier, but you also refrained from declaring the fact that I told you I didnt need them.As the evidence attests I do pretty well without.


if you dispute what ive said im quite happy to post a screenshot of the transactions.
Its a strange bird the hedgehog.

What is really strange is how you seemed happy to post on a public forum the fact that you not only buy up the hospitality seats on course, who either act under their own steam or under the complaints of you and your associates to slow down tv screens except the ones you pay to use for IR....and then say you are selling the very product that the tracks want to stop. Now be clear, thats you who said that not me.

The courses clearly dont do due diligence.
Report Willie Shafter. March 15, 2019 1:31 PM GMT
if you dispute what ive said im quite happy to post a screenshot of the transactions.
Report dustybin March 15, 2019 1:34 PM GMT
show the In Rev for services rendered.
Report dustybin March 15, 2019 1:38 PM GMT
For all the talk about the length of time I looked at ft, you seem to have avoided saying how that effects how the case in fact that I no longer have them, while you do.
Report ItsMeSwaddle March 16, 2019 5:48 PM GMT
Surely today wasnt a good day.
Report cardenden March 16, 2019 5:57 PM GMT
Garry shafter
Can you post your full p/l for 30th march 2018   

Thank you in advance

ExcitedLaugh
Report mouse muldoon March 16, 2019 6:02 PM GMT
How's your MUM?
Report GLASGOWCALLING March 16, 2019 6:07 PM GMT
.. Mad Fifer Alert. !!!!!!!!!!!
Report mouse muldoon March 16, 2019 6:11 PM GMT
He's only half human.
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