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stewarts rise
18 Feb 19 14:12
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Or Elixsoft at 2.4 to place, which do you think is the better value, We all know about LH thanks to BB but other than Wazza and some other hard hitters, think most folk would think that Elixsoft to place is a better bet, with a small back on the win.
Has decent C/D form in C5 and form figures on AW here of 132243 never btn more than 2 1/2 lengths except for the 4th when coming back from 8 months off, the last 3rd was on slower ground, looks good to at least place to me and if LH isn't at top of his game may win.
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Report Barton Bank February 18, 2019 6:03 PM GMT
Won comfortably. Should go to Chelmsford on Thursday with just the one penalty as Friday was an apprentice race.
He's in the day after as well
Report isleham February 18, 2019 6:03 PM GMT
not doing a lot in front..ears very pricked..hate the jockey
Report Willie Shafter. February 18, 2019 6:04 PM GMT
wd bb..

i'd say 70 is his mark.
Report Barton Bank February 18, 2019 6:05 PM GMT
Think he's a bit better than that myself.
Report domino14 February 18, 2019 6:05 PM GMT
Won well, but not convinced it's the 80 horse his trainer said he is. Also not convinced this stiff mile suited.

Bet Tracy Collins has an unhappy owner ! Rated 45 when it left that yard.
Report sewter lives again February 18, 2019 6:06 PM GMT
well done BB

very difficult to win cosily at Newcastle it's a tough course

he looked to be staying on well so looks like you can go further with him certainly at the easier tracks
Report the dealer February 18, 2019 6:07 PM GMT
great stuff BB not often you get a run like his. a wee break and back for the grass
Report Willie Shafter. February 18, 2019 6:10 PM GMT
trip no prob..wasnt one closing at line.
Report Barton Bank February 18, 2019 6:11 PM GMT
I think he has the ability to get to 80. We have had to keep him busy in order to get the maxium out of his handicap mark.
Report 11kv February 18, 2019 6:11 PM GMT
Stewarts wd on the place pick
Report domino14 February 18, 2019 6:12 PM GMT
Maybe, he just seemed to cruise into it like he was gonna go clear and then if anything had to be driven out to win by 2L. I think the horse has more speed than stamina. As he goes up in grade, he'll face better horses who will finish races better. Strikes me that 7f may end up his ideal trip the way he travels.
Report stewarts rise February 18, 2019 6:15 PM GMT
Thanks 11kv, could have had nearly 9/4 at one time, thought it looked a 2 horse race at most, got the F/C also, not a lot but better than a poke in the eye!Laugh
Report domino14 February 18, 2019 6:15 PM GMT
Reckon he's going to be 72/73 tomorrow.
Report 11kv February 18, 2019 6:18 PM GMT
Haven't heard that saying  for a while......LaughLaugh
Report Jack Bauer '24' February 18, 2019 6:21 PM GMT
I can see him winning off 80 at some stage. He's a very genuine type and lightly raced for a 5yo.
Report knot in wood February 18, 2019 6:30 PM GMT
BB- the young app mark crehan back on if he runs again end off week, i rate him highly.
Report stridingedge February 18, 2019 8:43 PM GMT
Wd again Barton
Report Barton Bank February 18, 2019 8:47 PM GMT
Cheers, folks. And yes Mark Crehan is jocked up for Thursday if we run.
Report Willie Shafter. February 18, 2019 9:07 PM GMT
bb you obv one of the dixon bro's?
Report Jack Bauer '24' February 18, 2019 10:53 PM GMT
He's not one of the Dixon brothers.
Report smirnoff2therescue February 18, 2019 11:39 PM GMT
both the Bros are clued up re betting and hav secured many a media job on the back of it ...... only to be murdered on ere CoolCoolLaughLaughLaugh

#happydays
Report Barton Bank February 19, 2019 8:50 AM GMT
I am not one of the Dixon brothers. Handicapper is putting Lion Hearted up to 72. So there is a good chance he will go to Chelmsford when he will be effectively off 64.
Report alun2005 February 20, 2019 12:37 PM GMT
Can't see the Lion down for Thursday on here.

Any news?

Hope he's OK.
Report Barton Bank February 20, 2019 2:05 PM GMT
We decided to give him an extra day and run on Friday instead.
Report alun2005 February 20, 2019 3:45 PM GMT
Cheers BB
Report domino14 February 22, 2019 7:19 AM GMT
The Kings Stead to ruin the party today, massively overpriced at 10/1.
Report Willie Shafter. February 22, 2019 9:07 AM GMT
kings steed isnt improving..found its level low 60's..cant see it beating lion giving it 5lb.
Report alun2005 February 23, 2019 11:13 AM GMT
When we will be seeing The Lion next, after his second recent fog abandonment last night?

Taking on WINX maybe?
Report domino14 February 23, 2019 11:26 AM GMT
Wherever they run him now, he'll had to run off 72. Life will be more difficult for him now. Could be a good time to lay him next time as he'll have to run in a 0-70 and carry a big weight, or in 0-75 and higher. Impressive as he has been, will be much higher in weights now and against far stronger opposition.
Report alun2005 March 12, 2019 12:39 PM GMT
The Lion is odds AGAINST this evening at Wolver
Report alun2005 March 12, 2019 5:27 PM GMT
7/4 to 5/4 on here.

Are the fan club lumping on?
Report stewarts rise March 12, 2019 5:31 PM GMT
Haven't noticed BB all day on here, this will be tougher from this mark and at this course.
Report shoodacoodadidnt March 12, 2019 5:33 PM GMT
I think he'll like it there - I'm on :) ... and he's a good jockey
Report alun2005 March 12, 2019 5:45 PM GMT
Into odds-on now !
Report alun2005 March 12, 2019 5:45 PM GMT
Into odds-on now !
Report alun2005 March 12, 2019 5:47 PM GMT
And WINS
Report shoodacoodadidnt March 12, 2019 5:48 PM GMT
heart-stopping moments up to the line but WD the Lionheart - f**ck Cheltenham!
Report alun2005 March 12, 2019 5:48 PM GMT
I think a lot of Cheltenham losses may have just been recouped by the Lion
Report Barton Bank March 12, 2019 5:49 PM GMT
Done bloody well to win that. Delighted with the horse.
Report hulk23 March 12, 2019 5:50 PM GMT
nice ride, won cosily.  can't put it up much for that ...
Report jamesdean March 12, 2019 5:50 PM GMT
Race didn't plan out well for LH either. Bumped early doors then had to come wide, jockey done well
to take it up early and kick on considering. Thought he'd went too soon but probably no choice
Report themightymac March 12, 2019 5:50 PM GMT
Correct alun. Lion Hearted punters get out of jail thanks to Lion Hearted Crazy
Report the dealer March 12, 2019 5:51 PM GMT
well done BB
Report shoodacoodadidnt March 12, 2019 5:51 PM GMT
recouped some Cheltenham losses - but might take a few months to recoup all - thanks Ruby - love you man :(
Report tons of sobs March 12, 2019 5:52 PM GMT
Just mentioned on other thread was gonna lump,but kept my discipline..stick to levels...hoses up........well slowly slowly get it backee.....
Report alun2005 March 12, 2019 5:54 PM GMT
Well done BB. Where next?
Report themightymac March 12, 2019 5:56 PM GMT
Your discipline will see that you are all right long term tonsofsobs unlike us nutters. Crazy
Report Barton Bank March 12, 2019 5:57 PM GMT
As long as he comes out of it OK he will run at Southwell without a penalty on Thursday off the same mark. Not tried him there before though his style of racing gives encouragement he will take to it.
Report alun2005 March 12, 2019 6:01 PM GMT
Good luck on that surface.
Report Barton Bank March 12, 2019 6:02 PM GMT
Hopefully he will like it. Mick has a better record than most with horses taking to the fibresand.
Report themightymac March 12, 2019 6:04 PM GMT
Well done BB didn`t realise that you were involved with the horse. He has done well for you. Credit to all concerned.
Report Barton Bank March 12, 2019 6:11 PM GMT
We have placed him well but you've got to have the horse to do that and Mick has done an exceptional job with him.
Report sparrow March 12, 2019 6:17 PM GMT
Cost me today barton, but well done.
Report Barton Bank March 12, 2019 6:19 PM GMT
Apologies!
Report SlippyBlue March 12, 2019 6:25 PM GMT
Great result for you BB, well done.
Report sparrow March 12, 2019 6:26 PM GMT
No need to apologise barton, it's all in the game. Grin
Report Willie Shafter. March 12, 2019 9:12 PM GMT
domino14    23 Feb 19 10:26 
Wherever they run him now, he'll had to run off 72. Life will be more difficult for him now. Could be a good time to lay him next time as he'll have to run in a 0-70 and carry a big weight, or in 0-75 and higher. Impressive as he has been, will be much higher in weights now and against far stronger opposition.

Cry
Report mouse muldoon March 12, 2019 9:15 PM GMT
Where's dommy?
Report BennyBinion1 March 13, 2019 8:34 PM GMT
Southwell 1 mile tomorrow.

Are we all backing the forum's fav again??
Report alun2005 March 14, 2019 12:45 AM GMT
Is this the first ever Southwell evening meeting???   

I can't remember seeing that track under the lights before.

The Lion currently around 7/4 on here.
Report G Hall March 14, 2019 10:57 AM GMT
Quite simple really if you have been backing him all along then you keep backing him, if you have never backed him before then you lay him simples
Report alun2005 March 14, 2019 12:50 PM GMT
11/10 now
Report alun2005 March 14, 2019 6:24 PM GMT
Odds on now

If it's anything like Tuesday evening a lot of people are going to try and chase back Cheltenham losses on The Lion.
Report pablo-fanque March 14, 2019 6:27 PM GMT
Is this the first ever Southwell evening meeting???

yes alun
Report pablo-fanque March 14, 2019 6:27 PM GMT
1st under lights
Report tons of sobs March 14, 2019 6:47 PM GMT
Backed him every run,..letting him go today,his sire Lope De Vega only had one winner at Southwell,mind only had  18 rnrs...not a big enough sample,but it doesn't add confidence....
Good luck to those going in....really hope he wins.
Report Barton Bank March 14, 2019 6:53 PM GMT
Hoping he wins also for obvious reasons. Not interested in backing him at odds on though he's clearly handicapped to win if he likes the surface. Hopefully those who do collect.
Report SlippyBlue March 14, 2019 6:57 PM GMT
I feel the same as you BB, not for me either at odds on but I will cheer him home and hope he wins for you.
Report stewarts rise March 14, 2019 6:58 PM GMT
Good luck to everyone taking the odds, as usual i'll be backing something EW against it, as you get such good prices. May well win again but 1st time on Fibresand not for me. Think Baron Run is a massive price to beat it, and probably do Tum Tum as well, had less runs in past year than the Lion has had in past 2 months and could have more improvement to come.
Report BestShot March 14, 2019 7:02 PM GMT
The dam hated soft, based on that he should struggle - hammer gun really well weighted too
Report tons of sobs March 14, 2019 7:03 PM GMT
Agree with your sentiments BB damsire has decent record at Southwell and gives you hope he'll be okay,certainly the form he's in,but the dam had one runner at Southwell 0/2.

Again good luck.
Report 11kv March 14, 2019 7:07 PM GMT
Will hack up, good luck Barton.
Report tons of sobs March 14, 2019 7:12 PM GMT
Don't know if it's just the lights but the kickback looks horrendous....like a sandstorm!
Report Burkey1885 March 14, 2019 7:24 PM GMT
BB
Has Lion had a racecourse gallop
Report knot in wood March 14, 2019 7:28 PM GMT
good luck tonight BB.

do you mind me asking:

would you have a interest in all the slipstream racing horses,give admiral rooke a good EW chance at chelmsford tomorrow evening but the dave evans horse amor fati as strong form relative to the grade.
Report Early Morning Riser March 14, 2019 7:58 PM GMT
Satisfy going up 27Lb after tonights run. Its been here there and everywhere. 46 on here atm so worth having a small bet out of interest.
Report Art Decko March 14, 2019 8:24 PM GMT
I really hope Lion Hearted wins, but rather than jinx him with my money I am going E/W on Baron Run.
Report alun2005 March 14, 2019 8:31 PM GMT
2.08 at the off
Report alun2005 March 14, 2019 8:33 PM GMT
End of an era.
Report FrankRA March 14, 2019 8:33 PM GMT
That was rancid
Report stewarty b March 14, 2019 8:35 PM GMT
A race too much/too soon.
Report BestShot March 14, 2019 8:37 PM GMT
Hated the going like I said, you need to like soft going to act at southwell, hammer gun should've won off 80 earlier in the season there, 7lb less today
Report stewarts rise March 14, 2019 8:38 PM GMT
Got both of my selections placed, but really thought i'd got the 1-2 till he put the Hammer down, but a nice profit anyway. Run had to come to an end sooner or later but clearly didn't stay on the surface BB.
Report onlooker March 14, 2019 8:39 PM GMT
Early Morning Riser     14 Mar 19 19:58

Satisfy going up 27Lb after tonights run. Its been here there and everywhere. 46 on here atm so worth having a small bet out of interest.
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? .......... to 97 ?

Think you have got your wires crossed, there. Happy
Report FrankRA March 14, 2019 8:44 PM GMT
Not necessary the going,how on earth did the jockey think he could go flat out for a mile, was beat long before the going became an issue,and any decent trainer would know whether their horse would go on the surface.
Report stewarts rise March 14, 2019 8:44 PM GMT
Onlooker surely you know that the h'capper always puts horses up at least 27lbs after they've been btn 80 odd lengths in last on lto run?Grin
Report Art Decko March 14, 2019 8:46 PM GMT

Mar 14, 2019 -- 3:39PM, onlooker wrote:


Early Morning Riser     14 Mar 19 19:58 Satisfy going up 27Lb after tonights run. Its been here there and everywhere. 46 on here atm so worth having a small bet out of interest.-------------? .......... to 97 ?Think you have got your wires crossed, there.


yes, I saw that too but assumed it was a "palpable error" ... a typo

Report stewarty b March 14, 2019 8:47 PM GMT
WD sr.
Report Early Morning Riser March 14, 2019 8:54 PM GMT
onlooker, have a look at the at the races cardcard, got it going up 27lb to 97 in future races.
Report Sergeant Cecil March 14, 2019 9:48 PM GMT
"you need to like soft going to act at southwell"

Utter, utter nonsense and disproved about 10 years ago.
Report Art Decko March 14, 2019 10:09 PM GMT

Mar 14, 2019 -- 4:48PM, Sergeant Cecil wrote:


"you need to like soft going to act at southwell"Utter, utter nonsense and disproved about 10 years ago.


do you have a link to the research that disproved the theory ?

Report onlooker March 15, 2019 1:37 AM GMT
Early Morning Riser    14 Mar 19 20:54
 
onlooker, have a look at the at the races cardcard
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I know that I am correct ... No matter what MISTAKES ANYBODY else may have made. ...


- and that is - 'NO OFFERS' ... NOT even a 1.01.
Report Barton Bank March 15, 2019 8:09 AM GMT
Sorry missed your question, Knot In Wood. All 3 of the Slpstream Racing horses are owned by a group of ten of Mick Appleby's owners in equal shares.
Report knot in wood March 15, 2019 8:26 AM GMT
no problem BB, thanks for your reply.

admiral rooke was 1 of my many "cliff" horses when with dodds,hope he runs a big race for you tonight.
Report Barton Bank March 15, 2019 8:30 AM GMT
He's been largely disappointing but there was enough in his penultimate run to suggest he isn't a lost cause.
Report knot in wood March 15, 2019 8:41 AM GMT
i thought he was a good buy for the money when i noticed he had gone to mick appleby.

imo best with a bit of cut in the ground on the turf, so definitely can win races of that current mark.

best of luck.
Report stewarts rise March 16, 2019 11:02 AM GMT
The performance of LION HEARTED (IRE) which started favourite and finished unplaced, was considered. Michael Appleby’s explanation was noted that the gelding was outpaced and unsuited by the fibresand surface. He added that the race may have also come too soon for LION HEARTED (IRE) having raced 2 days previously. The Veterinary Officer reported that a post-race examination, during routine testing of the gelding, failed to reveal any abnormalities. The Veterinary Officer subsequently reported that LION HEARTED (IRE) was treated for post-race heat stress.
Report alun2005 March 16, 2019 11:10 AM GMT
Get well soon Lion.
Report stewarts rise March 22, 2019 6:05 PM GMT
There you go!
Report tons of sobs March 22, 2019 6:13 PM GMT
Everything comes to those that waitGrin...................................................like deathSad.
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