Feb 10, 2019 -- 5:29AM, john42 wrote:
LATOLMNE...theres no way b365 can be fauted in my view,ive tried all the others and thyre rubbish,i think paddy power actually offered me less money despite the price dropping and even when it didnt drop they still offered me less...I had a great second income going i just need to find somewhere that does a fair cash out.
You need to work out the maths to do it yourself. From what I can see, 365 takes an extra 5% above and beyond their current market value of the bet (ie what you would get if you placed the opposite bet to your original one - again, in a two-way market) when you hit the cashout button.
Cashout is an absolute LICENCE TO PRINT for the bookies.
Feb 10, 2019 -- 2:19PM, TheGoddess wrote:
Cash Out - Invented by bookmakers for the benefit of bookmakers!!Preys on the vulnerable - end of!!
Couldn't of summed it up any better,
If they were making cash in the first place, they aint gunna give any back.
Im heavily involved in 3-4 industries... and gambling by far is the most straight forward but the public just dont see it "its a mugs game" - well yeah it is, because anyone with a clue cant get a bean on with these mugs its laughable.
Feb 10, 2019 -- 4:11PM, john42 wrote:
tell me how do the pros get money on or is it all BS
John i'm not someone who is going to make something up but we all have presumptions.
Im saying the only way that a "pro" can get something on is with a special arrangement, applying to the gambling stables too.
For instance feed them with info and they will lay you a bet to x liability, because a) it might not win b)i tll save them money long term in the market.
If the event is big enough id believe within reason you can pretty much get what you like on @ the course.
Sorry to use a forumite as an example but if you see Burkey posting £300 here and there with the likes of PP, i dont know how much he is losing, but its not a presumption, its a FACT he isnt winning.
Feb 10, 2019 -- 4:48PM, john42 wrote:
ok fair enough itsmeswaddle,seems ive wsated 40 years of my life trying to find something to make a living from,when i finally do it,the bookies just turn ound and say,sorry its a traders decision and your restricted.
Theres no easy solution to be fair mate, the exchange offers easy arbitrage opportunity, so for example people grinding away at low stakes poker for a living, can just arb on the bookies instead, hence the banning, in surprised their isn't more arbing between your every day none punter, but GAMBLING must still be seen as a dirty word.
Ill be interested to see how gambling evolves post FOBT ban or amendment, probably very minimal change but we will see.
I feel your pain though, best advice that i can give is, every account you get closed, give yourself a pat on the back, its obvious you've got a clue, see it as a minor win.
Feb 10, 2019 -- 11:05AM, john42 wrote:
obviously im not going to stick up for them as theyve restricted me,but ive looked around all the main bookies,and they are the only firm worth betting with on cash out,paddy power and ladbrokes did it,but especially ladbrokes the second your bet is on they offer you less than your stake even if the price stays the same.
100 % correct I had a bet £400 at 2-1
Horse went 6/4. Cheekie bar stewards offering
£385 cash out before race ! One good thing about
Bet 365 u get bog on American racing very few do this