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themightymac
20 Aug 13 19:19
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When one reads all the allegations on here about racing and how crooked it is and how inept all the jockeys are, and with valid reasons at times, I often wonder why people continue to bet on horse racing? Is it because we are all gambling addicts?
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Report tyred August 20, 2013 7:21 PM BST
no, it's because EVERYONE that moans, has been moaning for ever and there are more generations to come Crazy
Report bannahan August 20, 2013 7:22 PM BST
I think all on here, myself included take great pleasure in dropping crisp £50 notes down a drain....you should try it....its fantastic entertainment imo
Report themightymac August 20, 2013 7:24 PM BST
I thought everybody on here (except me) were shrewdies and winners Crazy
Report themightymac August 20, 2013 7:24 PM BST
on horses that is.
Report mange August 20, 2013 7:26 PM BST
I like the puzzle Hcps.................rarely have a serious bet..............my last 3 E.W. trebs have produced 1 placed horse....feel it aint wot it usted to be..............Im not loosing a lot..................more like scratching my head.
Report lead on August 20, 2013 7:31 PM BST
Not gambling addicts but hooked on watching these beautiful animals race and trying to back the winner.
Report PMac August 20, 2013 7:32 PM BST
I used to be better at this than football. Now I'm equally rubbish at both. Seems harder these days.
Report sageform August 20, 2013 7:35 PM BST
There is a winner in every race as there is every time a roulette wheel spins. We all think we know how to beat the odds but just because some people follow the market, the form or jockeys, others follow numbers, draw, stables or in my case pedigrees. In every race somebody is right but more of us are wrong. What is the problem?
Report themightymac August 20, 2013 7:38 PM BST
I can sit in the bookies and tell straight away which punters are losing money they can`t afford to lose. Usually the ones that toss pencils at the screens, call jockeys crooked c**** and howl abuse at staff. I hate seeing guys go through this personal torture and really feel for them. Normally decent guys losing the plot and acting out of character. Gambling is a terrible addiction.
Report differentdrum August 20, 2013 7:39 PM BST
Because despite all the rubbish (too many races, generally useless Flat jockeys) it is still possible to eek out some sort of profit but it does seem like it is getting harder.
Report tyred August 20, 2013 7:40 PM BST
if more of us are wrong, then if those few did the reverse of what they've been doing, they'd be quids in, what's the problem Crazy
Report SlippyBlue August 20, 2013 7:40 PM BST
I'll always bet on horses, I had my first bet aged 7 and 40 years later still love the game.
Report themightymac August 20, 2013 7:42 PM BST
To win at gambling one has to possess:

KNOWLEDGE
GUTS
DISCIPLINE

Most gamblers have the first 2 but probably only 5% possess the most important one DISCIPLINE. 95% - myself included - are CHASERS and will always end up in the ****.
Report wildmanfromborneo August 20, 2013 7:42 PM BST
The biggest moaners on a racecourse are the ones that don't bet,when a jockey makes a mistake in Ireland the ones charging round to the parade ring are again the ones that don't bet.
Report themightymac August 20, 2013 7:45 PM BST
slippy - do you not think horseracing - like snooker - has suffered from the overkill? Far too many meetings and races now imo and it has become slightly boring now for me. 20 years ago, I could have told you the form of nearly every horse in training, straight from memory, but not now.
Report themightymac August 20, 2013 7:46 PM BST
See you later, some serious betting to do just now Crazy
Report lead on August 20, 2013 7:46 PM BST
If we were gambling addicts we'd all have given in to the free "vegas bets" etc.I like to convince myself that there's a difference between gambling and betting on horses.
Report sageform August 20, 2013 7:52 PM BST
tyred, I was talking about each individual race. Only a minority of punters win on most races but many of us get a turn at winning now and then as you do on a roulette wheel. I have a few angles that show a profit but I can't be bothered to wait for days for the right bet. I bet to enhance the pleasure of watching racing and accept that many of my bets are placed out of boredom-and most of those lose. One of the best angles imo is to bet the second or third fav in moderate handicaps for a place-you get around evens or a bit better and if the horse has been regularly placed before, it pays out enough to make a small profit but what a boring way to bet. Just did Alluring Star for instance.
Report tyred August 20, 2013 7:56 PM BST
boredom and 'fun bets' are our 2 most dangerous enemies,

other than that ...
Report xmoneyx August 20, 2013 8:25 PM BST
I blame virgin for being hooked on terrible e/w treble thread Tongue OutLoveExcitedCool
Report birdy August 20, 2013 8:29 PM BST
just bloomin good fun if you pick out one or two longer odds winners
Report themightymac August 20, 2013 8:33 PM BST
The problem with so called "fun" bets for 10 or 20 quid is that after losing 4 or 5 of them the average punter will up his stake to get the losses from his "fun" bets back. Then they get beat and stakes are raised even higher to get losses back and before you know it, one has done one`s nuts from what started as "fun" bets. 99% of "fun" bet gamblers do it, it is the gambler`s mentality.
Report Captain Christy August 20, 2013 8:44 PM BST
Sounds like you finally had a winning day Laugh
Report themightymac August 20, 2013 8:47 PM BST
Who me CC? Last winner I bet Lester Piggott was on it. Crazy
Report xmoneyx August 20, 2013 8:56 PM BST
tmm you should do a multibet,win,lose,draw,stop

my bet today returned 33% of stake

so next bet same stake,33% cheaper
Report xmoneyx August 20, 2013 8:57 PM BST
tmm did you ever hav a bet on Jupiter island,piggott?
Report birdy August 20, 2013 9:03 PM BST
you're pretty much right tmm concerning upping stakes, personally I look at it as a form of entertainment with only moderate expectations. However, a few self selected big odds winners and the entertainment is definately there,even if I fail to make a profit. The key is always the same...only spend what you can afford to lose for the sake of being entertained.
Report know all August 20, 2013 11:04 PM BST
if you don't win stick to small bets its no use putting decent bets on its the sensible thing to do just accept it a great sport to follow winning isn't everything to everybody

just think those that win have no family life work 10 hours a day 7 days a week don't go out and bore the fk out of everyone with the obsession of winning
Report minardi August 20, 2013 11:11 PM BST
know all - thats great advice - for me i love the intrigue of it all but it costs me cash ... in reality i turnover thousands but lose hundreds.

I have a good job, a nice house and family - i generally do £2 and £5 bets but i stills lose more than i would dare show my wife ... i dont gamble on lsots or casinos and make a rare foray into sports

but i do have a great desire to bet against a channon , said bin suroor horse or anything ridden by mc'coy , Richard Johnson etc

I have stuck around here for a long time and will continue to do so but have put a withdrawal limit of £200 a week to prevent chasing or a bad run
Report minardi August 20, 2013 11:13 PM BST
BTW i know i show as only 2002 as member of forum i was on Fluter.com before that
Report minardi August 20, 2013 11:18 PM BST
with regard to stupid bets - Although married i had a brief "fling" with a woman called Anna - if i could have all my £2 bets on anything trained , called or ridden by an Annie or Anna or Anne (apart from Anne Stokel - avoid) i would be wealthier man
Report know all August 20, 2013 11:20 PM BST
I think when punters put on small bets they have accepted they cant win overall and they are being sensible in not wasting money the danger lies in those who still think they win and put decent bets on losing a lot of money those punters kid themselves they win and just wont accept the facts, those are the dangerous ones to themselves and their family
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