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turnip turns
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C4 bring back Down
Channel 4 have reacted to the botched start to their new racing coverage — viewing figures are down 12 per cent — by bringing back the erudite Alastair Down, one of the on-screen talents shown the door. 
Down’s return for next month’s Cheltenham Festival and other major meetings could be seen as a counter to John McCririck, C4’s most  high-profile casualty, launching a £3m ageism court action.
C4 say Down’s comeback has no connection whatsoever with McCririck.
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Report The Lord BUSH February 27, 2013 11:22 AM GMT
Great  news
Welcome  back  A.D
Report Dr Gonzo February 27, 2013 11:23 AM GMT
Full steam ahead for the gravy train
Report aberdonia February 27, 2013 11:35 AM GMT
Has not taken long for C4 to panic big style.
Report TELL DEL February 27, 2013 11:43 AM GMT
If viewing figures are down 12% and they are starting to panic about a botched start, maybe they would have considered bringing back Big Mac......but looks like he has already shot himself in the back.
Report theres only one best tonic February 27, 2013 12:02 PM GMT
be brough scott next
Report BlazingWalker February 27, 2013 12:21 PM GMT
Good news on AD , now bring bring back Big Mac CH4 you know it makes sense.
Report sageform February 27, 2013 12:36 PM GMT
I don't object to having AD back, but would not want big Mac who is my least favourite TV personality of any sport or programme, never mind racing. I usually watch ATR or RUK in preference to C4 in any case but if Mac is on, I am definitely watching another channel.
Report 28dogs February 27, 2013 12:39 PM GMT
Getting rid of Tanya would improve things no end.  How she survived last time is a mystery - can't get through a single slot without getting her words muddled up.  Bit of problem for a tv presenter imo.
Report Dr Gonzo February 27, 2013 12:57 PM GMT
I don't object to having AD back, but would not want big Mac who is my least favourite TV personality of any sport or programme, never mind racing. I usually watch ATR or RUK in preference to C4 in any case but if Mac is on, I am definitely watching another channel.

Agreed. Can take or leave Down, despite his disdain for the opinions of anyone who isn't in racing's payroll.

However why anyone would watch C4 Racing purely to see some fat oaf waving his hands about is beyond me.
Report sofiakenny February 27, 2013 1:21 PM GMT
i wonder if he will still turn up for work pissed as a newt?
Report timeless February 27, 2013 1:27 PM GMT
1.01 landed Sad
Report brigust1 February 27, 2013 1:31 PM GMT
Can just about stand AD providing he doesn't repeat the 'carved from granite' line too many times. Met him once, at the bar, during a Cheltenham evening do, very dismissive character. Thinks the earth orbits around him.
Report subaru February 27, 2013 1:47 PM GMT
oh joy, we can look forward to the daily montages fromt he great wordsmith after all, I was worried Tanya might have to do them!!
Report EdwardWoowardWould February 27, 2013 1:55 PM GMT
"Hic"
Report aberdonia February 27, 2013 1:57 PM GMT
He will be penning a pretentious piece of prose as we speak, with a half empty vodka bottle at his side.
Report Blackwater February 27, 2013 1:57 PM GMT
At this rate it won't be long before they dig up Oaksey.
Report Facts February 27, 2013 1:59 PM GMT
AD and JMcC - do nothing to help the business of horseracing
Report chrisg February 27, 2013 1:59 PM GMT
On any objective analysis of performance Stephenson would have been dropped; McRirick argues an ageist agenda I would argue more of a feminist stance was adopted.
Report carrot1960 February 27, 2013 2:06 PM GMT
that will certainly help there case  against McCririck. while their might be a few fly's on big john there are certainly none on channel 4
Report scaredmoney February 27, 2013 2:10 PM GMT
mine's a double..........so is AD's
Report yorkie1 February 27, 2013 2:14 PM GMT
Good news - welcome back AD!
Report Brother Mouzone February 27, 2013 2:22 PM GMT
From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring.
Report 28dogs February 27, 2013 2:34 PM GMT
Is that you AD?
Report cooperman February 27, 2013 2:40 PM GMT
Please don't say he's done some interviews, over a long lunch, for Cheltenham.Cry
Report millhouse February 27, 2013 3:38 PM GMT
You couldn't make it up, imo...
Report sofiakenny February 27, 2013 3:51 PM GMT
the guy is a drunken disgrace..it makes my blood boil watching this alkie on my tv screen blabbering a load of
booze fueled garbage.
Report jonjo February 27, 2013 3:56 PM GMT
Agree with Millhouse, it's beyond belief they've brought this fella back so soon, this was supposed to be the bright new dawn of the Era Of La Balding, and people are switching her off, JUST LIKE THEY DID WHEN SHE PRESENTED BBC RACING.....
So what do the blinkered execs do?
"It cant be us who got it wrong, she's a national treasure, we kept saying so, we'll have to bring back that fella who talks about the cheap seats a lot"
Report xmoneyx February 27, 2013 3:56 PM GMT
Laugh

he must have connections or a black book
Report Ekbalco February 27, 2013 3:56 PM GMT
Trebles all round!!!!
Report millhouse February 27, 2013 3:58 PM GMT
Absolutely on the money as ever, Jonjo...
Report turnip turns February 27, 2013 4:38 PM GMT
C4 press release.

Twenty thrilling races and over 20 hours of live action, featuring the world’s best jump jockeys and horses, will be televised live on Channel 4 from the fabled four-day Cheltenham Festival on March 12 - 15.

Channel 4’s high definition Festival coverage starts daily on March 12 with The Morning Line live from 7:55am presented by Nick Luck. Former top jump jockey Mick Fitzgerald will be track-side every morning to give his expert evaluation of that day’s runners with Sam Thomas reporting from the stables. The Morning Line will be packed with features, racing news, tips and a daily guest to provide viewers with crucial pointers for the day ahead.

Channel 4 Racing’s Festival coverage runs from 12:35 – 4:20pm with a daily delivery of five races and evening highlight packages. Presented by Clare Balding, she is joined by Nick Luck with Jim McGrath, Mick Fitzgerald, Graham Cunningham and Ted Walsh to provide unrivalled analysis from the track-side studio. Alice Plunkett and Rishi Persad will be out and about bringing all the atmosphere of the thrilling four-day meeting to the screen. Tanya Stevenson will relay the betting updates, with Simon Holt calling home the winners for his thirteenth consecutive year. Alastair Down returns to the fold to deliver daily essay-style preview packages.

Channel 4 Racing: Festival Morning Line: 7:55am

Channel 4 Racing: Cheltenham Festival: 12.35pm - 4.20pm plus evening highlights.

Friday’s Cheltenham BetFred Gold Cup is off at 3.20pm with Channel 4 Racing: Gold Cup Re-Run at 7.55pm.
Report Facts February 27, 2013 4:44 PM GMT
......Alice Plunkett and Rishi Persad will be out and about bringing all the atmosphere of the thrilling four-day meeting to the screen......


god help us !
Report punchestown February 27, 2013 5:24 PM GMT
AD a good egg imo.
Report duffy February 27, 2013 5:34 PM GMT
I hope they don't do that feature where they are all sat round the dinner table stuffing their faces whilst discussing the days feature, my toes still haven't uncurled after suffering that.Scared
Report CROPSICK February 27, 2013 5:37 PM GMT
Fking ted walsh '****'
Report gbtp February 27, 2013 5:41 PM GMT
Alice, Rishi, Mick, and most of all the lovely Clare...........what a bunch of numpties. Channel 4 Racing, you are completely and utterly finished!
Report metro john February 27, 2013 5:41 PM GMT
Glad to see him back,he is excellent on the tvCool(better than the balding anyway!Grin
Report FELTFAIR February 27, 2013 5:44 PM GMT
Hope the girls dispose of those awful hats.
Report Sparrow Hawk February 27, 2013 5:45 PM GMT
Ted Walsh brings precious little to the table
Report metro john February 27, 2013 5:47 PM GMT
a couple of the young Timeform guys can talk a bit,jamie could had a bit of northern naturalness i am sure,and martin should be on there.
Report knot in wood February 27, 2013 6:18 PM GMT
thank god i have ruk.
it as it's faults,but i dont think i could stomach most of that c4 crew for 4 hours.
Report Captain Christy February 27, 2013 6:20 PM GMT
I can't believe anyone has stopped watching that tripe because they don't have effing Down on.
Report artie February 27, 2013 6:25 PM GMT
Hope it won't be too long before the top man ( Tommo) returns.
Report gbtp February 27, 2013 6:27 PM GMT
Nice one artie. The guy is a legend/genius. Come back Thommo!!!!!!
Report SlippyBlue February 27, 2013 6:42 PM GMT
I wonder what those in the "cheap seats" have to say about Down coming back.
Report skiptoomaloumacari February 27, 2013 7:19 PM GMT
SAY WHAT YOU LIKE ABOUT TOMMO, HE"S CONSUMATE PROFESSIONAL AND GETTING RID OF HIM WAS A GRAVE ERROR.
Report subaru February 27, 2013 7:28 PM GMT
Disappointing figures for the Craven meeting force return of The Catt...
...C4 bosses stated today "Emma was gettig lonely and distracted with Mike sat in the carpark with the engine running, so we decided to bring the F-factor back for the flat!"
...it is thought the silver haired adonis is under strict orders NOT to udnertake interview duties,but instead is to restrict his involvement to staring longlingly at Ms Spencer and occassionally offering a cheeky wink.
Report IDKW February 27, 2013 7:31 PM GMT
Graham Goode commentating and the return of the ITV 7 are next.
Report morpteh mackem February 27, 2013 7:39 PM GMT
the show is moribund
Report askari1 February 27, 2013 7:52 PM GMT
Those people who have turned off will fall into one of two categories: casual viewers who miss the humour and serious punters / racing / betting industry pros who get everything they want from the specialist channels.

What C4 racing has to do is satisfy the second group (shots of horses in the ring and moving to post, an odds ticker, lots of information about form on screen) without the first lot noticing. Imv in these circumstances, the first thing to do is to nail down your base.

Hth C4 racing!
Report Mick Sturbs February 27, 2013 7:53 PM GMT
removing Rishi Persad and Graham Cunningham would improve things imo .Both are poor
Report askari1 February 27, 2013 7:53 PM GMT
Ah yes, GG's Gestapo bins, unable to pick out colours. You have to love it.
Report Hound-Dog-2 February 27, 2013 8:31 PM GMT
surprised 52 posts - and no mention of Francome.

no objection to A.D. coming back.  I wasn't McCririck's biggest fan and at times he was bloody annoying, but to a wider audience I suppose he did have entertainment value.  And no strong character on the team at the moment.  Jimbo is fine as a walking form book.  Tommo, NO.

Mike Catt was ok but the double-act with Emma didn't really click.  Tanya, not easy sharing screen time with Big Mac and she coped pretty well with that, but comes up a bit short on her own. I think C4 will get it right, just need to re-jig it a bit, and they know they haven't got it right at the moment.
Report askari1 February 27, 2013 8:42 PM GMT
The problem is that the old Channel 4 presenters and production team all knew each other (and some may have liked each other). When you don't know the people you're working with, you behave in a naturally cautious way and can't fake the on-air camaraderie.

A racing programme has to have Clare Balding--she is genuinely impressive to the casual viewer, authoritative, decent and racing benefits from its association with her. But if everyone but Mick Fitz don't know her that well, she should be up front as the 'voice' and the banter shd be between members of the old team.
Report fawwon February 27, 2013 8:49 PM GMT
Will be great once again(and again and again) to hear about the annual pilgrimage to cheltenham, cheltenham is horse racings olympics, and racing being the winner.
It is so enchanting.
Report jamov February 27, 2013 8:54 PM GMT
Sad Stand by for more "Easterbys own half of Yorkshire sh*t"
Report johnn February 27, 2013 8:57 PM GMT
fawwon 27 Feb 13 20:49 
Will be great once again(and again and again) to hear about the annual pilgrimage to cheltenham, cheltenham is horse racings olympics, and racing being the winner.
It is so enchanting.


and "the craic."
Report SlippyBlue February 27, 2013 9:13 PM GMT
Ah of course, waxing lyrical about the mighty craic. Marvelous.
Report askari1 February 27, 2013 9:17 PM GMT
If you don't spout cliches and repeat what most people think, how cd you ever get to be on a tv programme? Television presenters are sociable and genial and don't hold unorthodox views.

To bet, you usually need to go against the crowd and hold most people in contempt.

Most successful or pro bettors are always going to hate most tv presenters.
Report DUNERUNNER February 27, 2013 9:28 PM GMT
Is John Rickman still alive? If he is then why not bring him back?

Lifting his trilby with a "good afternoon ladies and gentleman and welcome to Cheltenham" is sure to add at least the missing 12% and probably many tens of thousands more!
Report Lee Ho Fooks February 27, 2013 10:01 PM GMT
I'm pleased AD is back
Report acey deucy February 27, 2013 10:09 PM GMT
Good News,Fat Al has a real passion for the game.Silly decision to get rid of him in the first place.
Report judorick February 27, 2013 10:10 PM GMT
get rid of Cunningham, virtually everything he said the last time he was on turned out to be wrong
Report Apologist February 27, 2013 10:31 PM GMT
It is good to see Eire represented by Fat Al
Report Makybe_Diva February 27, 2013 11:04 PM GMT
"......Alice Plunkett and Rishi Persad will be out and about bringing all the atmosphere of the thrilling four-day meeting to the screen......


god help us !"


Alice is ok but Rishi had better not spoil it for me Angry
Report artie February 28, 2013 4:08 AM GMT
Mick Easterby would make a fabulous presenter- "Now that orse theeer, he's a right c... at home ,but e can't alf fu....g run....."etc.,etc.
Report King Cally February 28, 2013 9:40 AM GMT
I'm not a huge fan of AD's over the top pompous style, but Im glad he is back for Cheltenham as the current programme is really quite dull.
Report metro john February 28, 2013 9:48 AM GMT
Lord snooty not liked by the lower classes!Wink
Report paul the b February 28, 2013 10:05 AM GMT
This opens the door for Willie Carson as the saviour of CH4 racing...LaughCrySad
Report Dr Gonzo February 28, 2013 10:06 AM GMT
Mick Easterby would make a fabulous presenter- "Now that orse theeer, he's a right c... at home ,but e can't alf fu....g run....."etc.,etc.

LaughLaughLaugh
Report xmoneyx February 28, 2013 11:09 AM GMT
paul the b 28 Feb 13 10:05 Joined: 11 Sep 03 | Topic/replies: 493 | Blogger: paul the b's blog
This opens the door for Willie Carson as the saviour of CH4 racing...


Grin
Report big aitch February 28, 2013 12:01 PM GMT
don't get that fat al back doing his essay style broadcast, he is an arrogant alchoholic

get rid of Rishi, Mick, and Tanya then they might have a chance to get a decent programme.
Report salmon spray February 28, 2013 12:14 PM GMT
John Rickman and Tony Cook were the ideal combo imo. That was ITV though.
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby February 28, 2013 12:15 PM GMT
Ted Walsh is a pikey and down waxing lyrical about the likes of jp et al is beyond nauseating
Report BIG CAT LEON LETT February 28, 2013 12:38 PM GMT
At least Mccririck conveyed a sense of what it's like to suffer a punting meltdown.Most of the other presenters are smart alecy and their disdain for punters not privy to inside info is clear.The types who will freeload drinks after you've had a touch but who wouldn't normally give you the skin of their shoyte.
Report BIG CAT LEON LETT February 28, 2013 12:38 PM GMT
At least Mccririck conveyed a sense of what it's like to suffer a punting meltdown.Most of the other presenters are smart alecy and their disdain for punters not privy to inside info is clear.The types who will freeload drinks after you've had a touch but who wouldn't normally give you the skin of their shoyte.
Report johnn February 28, 2013 12:43 PM GMT
Clare Balding as anchor, James Sherwood and Jodie Kidd on the fashion, and Tommo on everything else. Job's a good 'un.
Report salmon spray February 28, 2013 1:54 PM GMT
BBC used to manage with just Peter O`Sullivan and Clive Graham.
Report Ramruma February 28, 2013 2:09 PM GMT
Why are Alice and Rishi talking to the crowd? Sod the crowd. What other sports interview drunks in funny costumes instead of the participants and showing the action.

Alice knows what horses are supposed to look like so send her down to the start, from where she can tell us if anything is playing up.
Report Millerracing67 February 28, 2013 2:44 PM GMT
I watch C4 racing & the "new" team & format has not got off to the best of starts.
This so called new high-tec way of pre-race build-up is just not working (as much as none of them seem to be able to operate it right).
Do we really need all this high-tec stuff on a racing program??? Its not needed imo.
Far to many changes where may in 1 stroke to the show & sometimes in life & tv, you need to take a few steps back to move forward.
Gd luck to C4 & hopefully some of these probs will be sorted out for 4 of the best days of racing in the world a wk come next Tues.Cool
Report cooperman February 28, 2013 2:46 PM GMT
When his head is bobbin around and his boat is weaving around on the screen you start to go a bit dizzy.
Report MJK February 28, 2013 5:17 PM GMT
Apparantely C4 have employed a carpenter to make a stick with an attachment on the end. The attachment end goes to the neck and the other end sticks on the back. Head shaking solved.
Report Deptford February 28, 2013 5:34 PM GMT
Every single one of them, Brown nosed bottom licking cowards, a shower of dog poo
Report Hound-Dog-2 February 28, 2013 7:24 PM GMT
heard today that another one has got the call back to C4, Lee could be coming back on the team.
Report fawwon February 28, 2013 10:12 PM GMT
5 to 1 on the machine and 4 to 1 in the village
Report knot in wood February 28, 2013 10:20 PM GMT
too many cooks spoil the broth.
Report fawwon February 28, 2013 10:32 PM GMT
Report ohyouknowdoya February 28, 2013 10:33 PM GMT
Laugh
Report BARROWBOY March 1, 2013 7:53 AM GMT
Sir Mark said he wouldnt speak to C4 unless alistair was there.
Report TELL DEL March 1, 2013 11:44 AM GMT
If that is right and Tom Lee is coming back, that would be a good move.  Tanya seems to be struggling a bit on her own. I think they should have kept Tom in the first place.

To draw in a wider audience I think they need someone who brings a bit of fun and character to the team,  (without bringing back Big Mac or Tommo).

Surprised Betty Spencer is still there, nice to look at but what does she bring to the team. I think Francome was a great loss because he was very popular with a lot of viewers. Jimbo is a bit boring but his knowledge of form is an asset to the team.   

Seen Tom Lee at Taunton races yesterday, his father had a runner in the last race, and when Tom gave the jockey( M.G.Nolan) a leg-up, the jockey went right over the horse and came off the other side !
Report cooperman March 1, 2013 12:01 PM GMT
Tanya,Mac and Tom always seemed a bit superfluous.Certainly at 8am the prices available are irrelevant to most punters.The betting shows can be superimposed on screen for both 'the ring' and 'exchanges'and I for one don't need the free adverts they give to bookies.Oh,and any chance of seeing the runners live in the parade ring and going to the start and not a few seconds before the race starts.Ta!
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