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EdwardBeech
30 May 12 07:30
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this guy Tony - is a clown

i joined for a trial in May - 18 bets and 3 winners at 11/4  3/1  3/1

steer well clear - and just look at his amateur website
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Report Deltâ May 30, 2012 7:48 AM BST
isnt it meant to be place betting?
Report EdwardBeech May 30, 2012 8:25 AM BST
his website is **** - when i spoke to him he said he could not afford to have it updated
Report Red Hiney Monkey May 30, 2012 8:28 AM BST
Could it be bf fanaftertimer?
Report bf_fananatic May 30, 2012 9:03 AM BST
How could it be me RHM you moronic child as I wouldn't sell poor odds winners nor would I post 18 points profits for free yesterday (combined ratings) , and regarding after-timing, well the only after timing comes from idiots that wet themselves every time they see that they missed a great days returns or big winners because no one was holding their hand every day as they cant bet properly Laugh
Report bf_fananatic May 30, 2012 9:04 AM BST
After moaning is the new craze sweeping BF forum junkiesHappy
Report BARNEY21. May 30, 2012 9:10 AM BST
Didn,t see your ratings bf what time were they up yesterday? cheers
Report motley01 May 30, 2012 9:14 AM BST
Bf- fanantic, how dare you talk to RHM in such a manner, don't you know
who he is, no, well I'll tell you then. He's 300 points up this year, using ATR pics in running
The mans a fcuking genius, Mr Siegal, in his prime was only 50 spots up. But our RHM, he gives
everyone a fcuking 9 second start, the canes the lot of us, amazing man.
Report bf_fananatic May 30, 2012 9:19 AM BST
at about 2.15 p.m. had to pick my child up from nursery and I couldnt get them ready the night before as I was working on a upgrade to improvement ratings!

Here are hexhams results(pls check last thread as all proofed) and below it are all hexhams returns since febuary!

    6:15 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Benluna46         767        1        7.14        2.05   
    Devil Water50P t         350        8        -1        -1   
    Urban Kode27 b         230        3        -1        3.12   
    6:45 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Impact Zone9P         1019        1        4.83        2.14   
    Minstalad16P         -138        4        -1        -1   
    Temple Green23P         -198        3        -1        -1   
     7:15 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Graceful Descent60 t         485        1        4.1        1.64   
    Across The Tweed12 t         400        4        -1        -1   
    Farm Pixie36         290        2        -1        2.4   
     7:15 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Shoegazer16 t          1163        1        1.35        1.21   
    Naiad Du Misselot86         1039        3        -1        -1   
    Yachvili23          -153        2        -1        2.49   
     8:15 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Zefooha12F          320        3        -1        -1   
    Wheyaye351         247        2        -1        4.8   
    Bellaboosh36 p         216        1        17.61        8.2   
    8:45 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Harry Flashman13          409        1        3.79        2.2   
    Dystonia´s Revenge138         378        7        -1        -1   
    Pena Dorada27 p          337        4        -1        -1   
    9:15  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Saddlers Mot27 p          1072        3        -1        1.6   
    Schindlers Society22          902        9        -1        -1   
    Vallani103          731        10        -1        -1   



                    Ran        95.00        95.00   
                                       
                    Won        24.00        43.00   
                    SR%        25.26        45.26   
    Combined rating                                    
                    P/L        66.84        3.02   
                                       
                                       
    1:45 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Sparkling Hand9          710        5        -1        -1   
    Along Came Rosie2         315        3        -1        -1   
    Catawollow13 e/s          90        6        -1        -1   
    2:20 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Ruff Diamond24          840        3        -1        -1   
    Pena Dorada23 p          715        1        2.19        1.3   
    Signalman23 p          460        2        -1        1.67   
    2:55 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Kent Street19          814        2        -1        1.38   
    White Fusion5          667        7        -1        -1   
    Swift Arrow45         613        4        -1        -1   
     3:35 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Mr Woods5 14x         1133        9        -1        -1   
    Boris The Blade19 b          436        7        -1        -1   
    Chernik129          382        6        -1        -1   
    4:15 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Dawn Ride9 v          735        11        -1        -1   
    Markadam7 p         584        5        -1        -1   
    Cilliseal49 t          561        1        33.52        6.14   
     4:55 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Cloudy Dawn114          734        2        -1        1.6   
    Soul Angel6 v          681        3        -1        1.6   
    Sam Patch28         391        4        -1        -1   
    2:10 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Guess Again21         1316        1        4.8        1.13   
    Gottany O´S23          1108        3        -1        1.04   
    Overpriced10 t         730        2        -1        2.01   
    2:40 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Thelobstercatcher7 v          1221        2        -1        1.31   
    Captain Nash19 t         1144        1        4.3        2.02   
    Ruff Diamond10         637        5        -1        -1   
    3:10 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Majestic Mayhem109          373        1        9.24        3.99   
    Jackson Cage33          312        5        -1        -1   
    Zefooha22 p          200        3        -1        -1   
    3:40 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Rival D´Estruval29          1386        1        1.36        1.14   
    Miracle House196         819        2        -1        1.7   
    Realmont26 tb1         800        4        -1        -1   
    4:10 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Heez A Steel16         513        7        -1        -1   
    La Pantera Rosa14 p          270        8        -1        -1   
    Outlaw Tom19 p          233        1        8        2.15   
    4:40 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Saddle Pack7         835        1        3.21        1.56   
    Tipsy Indian12          469        3        -1        2.86   
    Duke Of Malfi15          438        6        -1        -1   
    5:10  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Green Flag84P         1108        1        4.45        1.74   
    Sun Lady39         529        6        -1        -1   
    Red Danger Angel25         381        13        -1        -1   
    2:30 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Man Of Principles32 v          790        8        -1        -1   
    Cilliseal39 t          640        4        -1        -1   
    Sierra Victor24          296        9        -1        -1   
    3:00 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Beau Dandy37          495        3        -1        2.66   
    Samson Collonges94          439        4        -1        -1   
    Sammy Spiderman44 v          385        6        -1        -1   
    3:30 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Heart Of Dubai20 p         936        4        -1        -1   
    Constant Contact9          903        1        2.4        1.42   
    Cabbyl Doo62          726        2        -1        3.27   
    4:00 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Saddle Pack16          457        2        -1        1.83   
    The Thirsty Bricky10          418        1        8.51        2.72   
    Storm Surge44 p          255        9        -1        -1   
    4:30 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Rosairlie13F          542        1        4.94        2.64   
    Quacity48          468        6        -1        -1   
    Bollin Ruth46          309        5        -1        -1   
    5:00 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Belon Gale10          802        3        -1        -1   
    Anotherbuck10         -462        1        4.8        1.76   
                                       
    5:40 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Nelson Du Ronceray8 p          921        1        2.5        1.26   
    Signalman22          670        5        -1        -1   
    Hoar Frost151 p          533        6        -1        -1   
    6:10 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Leith Walk15         351        2        -1        2.45   
    Kykate16 t          154        1        2.91        1.76   
    Janet´s Pearl165          130        5        -1        -1   
     6:40 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Kealigolane21          590        4        -1        -1   
    Tartan Snow9          325        2        -1        -1   
    Silver Gypsy16 t          296        3        -1        -1   
    7:10 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Cabbyl Doo12          1489        5        -1        -1   
    Rupert Bear28         669        1        8.8        1.93   
    Academy15         539        4        -1        -1   
    7:40 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Fentara35          543        1        2.96        1.77   
    Dundock10          282        4        -1        -1   
    See The Legend57          250        6        -1        -1   
    8:10 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Papamoa9          1393        2        -1        1.53   
    Tiger Maguire56          1242        3        -1        -1   
    Teerie Express10          934        1        14.13        2.83   
    6:15 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Benluna46         767        1        7.14        2.05   
    Devil Water50P t         350        8        -1        -1   
    Urban Kode27 b         230        3        -1        3.12   
    6:45 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Impact Zone9P         1019        1        4.83        2.14   
    Minstalad16P         -138        4        -1        -1   
    Temple Green23P         -198        3        -1        -1   
     7:15 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Graceful Descent60 t         485        1        4.1        1.64   
    Across The Tweed12 t         400        4        -1        -1   
    Farm Pixie36         290        2        -1        2.4   
     7:15 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Shoegazer16 t          1163        1        1.35        1.21   
    Naiad Du Misselot86         1039        3        -1        -1   
    Yachvili23          -153        2        -1        2.49   
     8:15 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Zefooha12F          320        3        -1        -1   
    Wheyaye351         247        2        -1        4.8   
    Bellaboosh36 p         216        1        17.61        8.2   
    8:45 »  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Harry Flashman13          409        1        3.79        2.2   
    Dystonia´s Revenge138         378        7        -1        -1   
    Pena Dorada27 p          337        4        -1        -1   
    9:15  Hexham         points        Result        Pl/s        place   
    Saddlers Mot27 p          1072        3        -1        1.6   
    Schindlers Society22          902        9        -1        -1   
    Vallani103          731        10        -1        -1   
Report motley01 May 30, 2012 9:24 AM BST
Ah ffs sake bf, we don't want your life story, less is more.
I do hope you're not going to bombard the forum with machine gun
posts now. Please don't
Report bf_fananatic May 30, 2012 9:26 AM BST
How on earth can you get fast pics from ATR as everything is delayed even the bet placement on inrunning markets?

If I showed you the profits I have scored over all the tracks it would blow your little socks off motley but I dont inflate myself nor slag others off!
Report bf_fananatic May 30, 2012 9:31 AM BST
a rough guide would be times the amount of tracks by say 50 points and your getting near my figure for only 3 months! I cant currenly work the figure out unless I load 100 workbooks in sequentially and link the figures which when I get a spare minute(day) I may!
Report bf_fananatic May 30, 2012 9:33 AM BST
between 40-48 % Strike rate for places tell any punter that I am barking up the right tree but place markets are very poor betting targets unless laying!
Report EdwardBeech May 30, 2012 9:34 AM BST
what have all these posts got to do with computerpik ?

his bet today is EACH WAY - SOCIAL RHYTHM 4.10 AYR
Report motley01 May 30, 2012 9:34 AM BST
Ok bf,I was being a little ironic in my posts, are the above results the profits
from your in running bets then, if they are what pics are you using.
Report bf_fananatic May 30, 2012 9:36 AM BST
Regarding tony , it may be the tony I know but if so hes not bad and may of had a bad day or week as will happen in betting, surely you understand that only a fool expects to win every day!
Report ged May 30, 2012 9:38 AM BST
Edward. Your thread has attracted the fanana virus. I think it was the word 'computer' in the thread title that did it.
Report EdwardBeech May 30, 2012 9:44 AM BST
ok thanks
Report motley01 May 30, 2012 9:44 AM BST
Behave yourself Ged. Edward has shown his naivety or gimp like character by using
a tipping line, it's a free for all now, I find some of bf posts a little interesting.
I have never used any tipster or even PW, I usually find I can fcuk it up by muself
Report bf_fananatic May 30, 2012 9:45 AM BST
I dont do inrunning markets and I didnt know RHM did them as I hardly converse with him but clearly he has some winning method , my ratings are based on a combined points system for all the form of each runner in as many ways as possible, anyone can do it and I got the idea from a guy of the internet.

I cant understand why so much chit is thrown my way from just a few and if genelec was out of his pit no doubt the abuse would rain down, sinical to the extreame.

Personally I hope everyone that uses what ever method does well as isnt that the general idea
of using an exchange, if we wanted to wallow in self pity we would be using a bookmakers doing our brains inWink
Report ged May 30, 2012 9:46 AM BST
Here's a flavour of his website:-

"These (ie. Adrian Massey fav stats - which don't show up for me) cover 18 years, results from 1991 up to present day, so they are very reliable in all races: Flat, All weather and National Hunt.
- Evens up to 11/8: 43% win and 71% placed (18,839 races)
- From 6/4 up to 15/8: 35% winners and 65% placed (22,530 races).

This represents over 100% success "


present day?
"over 100% success" - that phrase itself demonstates this guy's level of understanding. WTF is "over 100% success"??
Report bf_fananatic May 30, 2012 9:47 AM BST
sounds a bit spongey, whats the website called?
Report ged May 30, 2012 9:50 AM BST
www.gulliblesuckersswelcome.com
Report motley01 May 30, 2012 9:55 AM BST
OK I'm pulling out of this thread now, thank you gentleman, my
parting observation is the lack of a response from the Red Hinney Monkey man
Does the great man still espouse the 300pt profit from in running ATR pics.
Report bf_fananatic May 30, 2012 9:56 AM BST
lol LaughLaugh

Adrian Masseys site is very good but very little in the way of directly comparing runners, only the cookie system method is employed where races and runner properties are "profiled" like a cookie cutter!

3 main types of systems

1.....Cookie type (properties of form,runner,race etc profiles and filtered) flatstats/Adrain massey does down this route.

2.....Formuala type, this could be a theory, method or formula that puts you ahead of the odds
and an example would be bottom weights in long distance races in soft/heavy going.

3.....points type this method is employed by the BHA in handicapping and by many pro punters and can give you a direct comparison between all the runners in everyrace unlike methods 1 and 2 above which throw out 99% plus of the other runners!
Report top2rated May 30, 2012 9:57 AM BST
In fairness, the computerpik guy does only select one horse per race.

What chance has he got compared to someone who comes up with anything between three and six selections per race in a desperate attempt to land a winner at any price?
Report bf_fananatic May 30, 2012 10:01 AM BST
Well its a beta output and of course you wouldnt bet all them I think we can all agree on that.

When I get the chance I will design the correct "cookie cutter" to get the runners reduced into a better set, but currently I get little chance to do much work having my son for 5 days a week who comes first and compiling races everyday, but I will work on this soon....Happy
Report bf_fananatic May 30, 2012 10:02 AM BST
If you follow the thread from an observational post which is better you will notice the output will change soon and its ongoingWink
Report bf_fananatic May 30, 2012 10:05 AM BST
toodle pip, off to do races nowHappy
Report genelec May 30, 2012 11:51 AM BST

May 30, 2012 -- 9:03AM, bf_fananatic wrote:


How could it be me RHM you moronic child as I wouldn't sell poor odds winners nor would I post 18 points profits for free yesterday (combined ratings) , and regarding after-timing, well the only after timing comes from idiots that wet themselves every time they see that they missed a great days returns or big winners because no one was holding their hand every day as they cant bet properly


Anyone following all your "ratings" yesterday would have placed approx 200 bets and come away around 17 points out of pocket despite some nice priced winners. You seem to be incapable of telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Here's the proof:

http://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29145925/computer-ratings-for-29-05-12

HTH.

P.s. your zx81 somehow has trouble calculating commission.

Report Aviboyd May 30, 2012 12:40 PM BST
EdwardBeech
30 May 12 07:30 Joined: 25 Dec 06 | Topic/replies: 5 | Blogger: EdwardBeech's blog
this guy Tony - is a clown

i joined for a trial in May - 18 bets and 3 winners at 11/4  3/1  3/1

steer well clear - and just look at his amateur website


To be fair -6.25pts over 18 selections would be a major result for most tipsters in the RP rag and spammers like Backfitting_fananatic.

And as for the website if you have up to date firewall and anti-virus settings and the site displays the relevant data I don't see what the problem is...
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