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millhouse
13 Sep 10 01:03
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A wager more wretched than Wayne Rooney

On the day that Wayne Rooney's transgressions were made public, I received the following email: 'William  Hill are offering odds of 6-4 that Wayne Rooney will be facing divorce proceedings before Christmas Day 2010. Hills also quote 33-1 that Rooney will score - a goal - when England play Switzerland this week AND unveil a t-shirt bearing a "Sorry" message to Coleen.'

It also offered odds of 66-1 for Rooney to move in with the alleged prostitute, Jenny Thompson, and the same odds for the player to 'directly apologise (by name) to Coleen during the Match of the Day interview'.

Now, normally I shouldn't dream of publicising the puerile fantasies of parasitical chancers who plunder vast amounts from sport while offering next to nothing in return. But you should be aware of the depths they are prepared to plumb.

Beneath the s****ing headline 'EASY AS ONE, TWO, THREESOME FOR ROONEY' they bellowed: 'Wayne Rooney will collect ONE red card against Everton, a 14-1 chance; stick TWO fingers up at Everton fans in an abusive gesture during the game, at 11-2; score THREE goals or more - 40-1.'

Rooney's behaviour has been correctly categorised as tawdry, crass and imbecilic. There are no words to describe the response by William Hill.



Hoody should do a Lester Piggott, imo, and next time he's walking past the odious Ralph Topping, ask him, 'are you missing me',...?
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Report loper September 13, 2010 9:57 AM BST
"the odious Ralph Topping"

A fitting description.
Report Fairfield Grand September 13, 2010 9:59 AM BST
they also plumbed the depths by quoting no ball prices in the Pakistan England match (as predictably did PP).

Increasing desperate attention seeking imo.
Report loper September 13, 2010 9:59 AM BST
Surprising that it is the odious Mail On Sunday that highlights Hills' puerile marketing, though.
Report Compensation Year September 13, 2010 10:04 AM BST
If Patrick Collins had taken the 6/4 about divorce proceedings before Christmas, and the bet came up, then he would have had his account restricted or closed pretty quickly.
Report chelsea girl September 13, 2010 10:11 AM BST
loper.....I doubt that the mail editorial staff have a clue what Collins

is talking about.
Report loper September 13, 2010 10:14 AM BST
Good point, Chelsea Girl.
Report ribero1 September 13, 2010 10:14 AM BST
just read the column(avid mail reader here chaps) and there is an even better little piece on findlay,as i am no cut and paster maybe someone else could do the honours?
Report pacemaker September 13, 2010 10:26 AM BST
through internet I'm able to read a lot of scribes' content but honestly believe there are better writers on here, far more forceful and subjective. could name a dozen who don't merit status or wages in journalism!
but for the silliness/immaturity from a young-ish set (who will grow up, eventually!) this forum is a good read; bit vindictive and vitroilic at times but no worse than a soccer player going out to play at everton.
Report toronto44 September 13, 2010 10:41 AM BST
An obvious story for the racing media but as usual they are too scared to upset the bookmakers to print anything negative about them.The same type of journalists that work for state media in countries like China,Russia and Iran.Journalists who will  print the lies of the government,to keep tacking the money.The only difference being their bosses are the bookmakers and it is not fear that makes them print lies but greed.
Report corbiewood September 13, 2010 10:43 AM BST
An obvious story for the racing media


its about football.
Report corbiewood September 13, 2010 10:44 AM BST
millhouse reading the mail and her sister paper, where lies, propoganda and slanted bias towards the powers that be are printed everyday.


You couldnt make it up.
Report toronto44 September 13, 2010 10:53 AM BST
corb it is a story about the bookmaking industry and how they have no principles.Bookmaking and how they operate is central to racing.

Tell me about some of these lies and propaganda printed by the Mail on Sunday.I read a few Sunday newspapers and Patrick Collins is one of the most left wing sports journalist in the media.Also The mail on Sunday is the most anti big business(banks,utilities etc)and pro ordinary working people of all the Sunday papers.
Report corbiewood September 13, 2010 11:11 AM BST
^

You must work in the tory press, your doing a fine job converting this socialist.
Report loper September 13, 2010 11:13 AM BST
"The mail on Sunday is the most anti big business(banks,utilities etc)and pro ordinary working people of all the Sunday papers."

ShockedShockedShocked
Report ribero1 September 13, 2010 11:28 AM BST
i will have to stop buying it then!
Report toronto44 September 13, 2010 11:32 AM BST
I asked for examples Corb not just vague assertions.If you cannot back up your argument,you have no argument.

You a bookmakers mouthpiece.Who defends your bosses theft from the poorest and most vulnerable on their addict making FOBTs.To say you are a socialist must be the about the most laughable thing ever posted on here.No corb to are a selfish nark who supports legalised theft.

Loper yes The Mail on Sunday is very strongly anti big business ripping off ordinary people.Try to get out of media induced  conceptions of Left and Right wing.Papers like the Guardian speak only for their own Liberal elite and their interest and guilty consciences.
Report Mister E September 13, 2010 11:34 AM BST
I seldom agree with Collins. Too much sarcasm and a chip on his shoulder IMO. However, he is on target with this.
Hill are plumbing the depths set by Paddy Power.

Come back Hoody.

Topping and odious go together well.
Report millhouse September 13, 2010 11:46 AM BST
millhouse reading the mail and her sister paper, where lies, propoganda and slanted bias towards the powers that be are printed everyday.


You couldnt make it up.



Corbiewood, I happened to read it while over at my parents house late on Sunday night. They do take the Mail on Sunday, though they have The Times delivered midweek, if that makes you feel any happier (they don't like the broadsheet on Sunday, for some reason)

Collins makes a very good point, and as Hills' former PR rep is the best operator in the business, imho, my point is that I fear his company have made a very big mistake in failing to keep him...
Report Mister E September 13, 2010 12:41 PM BST
millhouse reading the mail and her sister paper, where lies, propoganda and slanted bias towards the powers that be are printed everyday.

Without reading a broad spectrum of articles how do you get to the truth?
There is a lot of garbage over immigrants and dole fiddlers, a blind eye to tax dodgers, but the occasional good campaigning piece.
Not my personal choice but, and I dislike Collins intensely.
But I am open minded enough not to dismiss everything in the paper, and everything he writes.
Report missty September 13, 2010 1:25 PM BST
The last time i looked Graham Sharpe had been in charge of sports PR at Hills for the past 30 odd years, while Hood, who had nothing to do with that side or individual, arguably presided over some very questionable political PR for that firm and some very questionable claims (i.e. Dont Push It Grand National was a black-armband day, Mon Mone was a 50m industry winner - all of which were seen to be complete tosh when the facts were published.

Are you saying that if he had still worked for Hills, that football email wouldnt have gone?
Report missty September 13, 2010 1:37 PM BST
And they really do lay the event, and not the individual....
Report toronto44 September 13, 2010 1:46 PM BST
Agree Mister E but to say speaking out against mass immigration or dole cheats is right wing.Is an an example of how people are manipulated by the Liberal elite media such as the BBC.

The people who have suffered from the massive wave of immigration to this country are the poorest.The people who have benefited are the wealthy.Imported cheap labour and keeping wage rates down of the indigenous population, benefits big business,wealthy shareholders and the political class who feed off big business.Also the poor countries who we take these people from also suffer from losing desperately needed skilled workers.Look at Pakistan now, who needs Pakistani doctors,engineers and skilled workers.A relatively wealthy country like us or a poor one like Pakistan.

People who steal benefits also hurts genuine claiments not the wealthy.

Papers like the Guardian and Independent are happy to speak up for Liberal mantras, like support of mass immigration because their readers do not suffer from it.They benefit from it, while the poor suffer.
Report Mister E September 13, 2010 2:29 PM BST
Agree 100% toronto, I did not say that speaking out against open door immigration is Right Wing.
It is the epitome of "Market Forces" at work.
Agree with the earlier poster who wrote abot the MoS campaign against banks, and utility companies, and overpaid Building Society CEs.
My point was that I disagreed with corbiewood's dismissal,
lies, propoganda and slanted bias towards the powers that be are printed everyday.


amongst the lies, and propaganda there are some worthwhile pieces.

What was the Findlay piece BTW?
Report pacemaker September 13, 2010 2:42 PM BST
all this 'right wing' and left wing' crap is ludicrous; that's gone, we have a coalition which involves two CENTRE forwards!
think about it and let me know, if I'm wrong!
as for 'the mail' it always seems lacking in depth, shallow, whereas 'the sun' gets into the 'nitty gritty' and evokes opinion(s).
neither would ever get into this household, just loook at all of 'em, free, on internet!
oh, forgot, TIMES involves a quid with which I'd rather lay an odds-on shot 'not to be placed!'
Report buffy007 September 13, 2010 2:43 PM BST
the sun dont make me laugh get  back down the pit and put the kettle on
Report pacemaker September 13, 2010 2:48 PM BST
don't mock pit lad and realise when it comes to 'kettle' it's not black!
Report Compensation Year September 13, 2010 3:19 PM BST
does anyone know why Patrick Collins has not been around the breakfast table on Sky's Sunday Supplement for quite some time - did not always agree with what he had to say, but interesting nonetheless
Report Rollo Tomasi September 13, 2010 3:57 PM BST
Whoever is doing the marketing job at WH must be pleased.

The Mail and people on here discussing their offers. Isn't the object of the job to get them exposure. Job done. WH might have sent Collins a free bet for his piece.
Report toronto44 September 13, 2010 6:36 PM BST
It is not good publicity for them to be shown to be prepared to try make money








Not good publicity to be shown for the unprincipled leeches they are.
Report toronto44 September 13, 2010 6:37 PM BST
oops ignore 1st line
Report millhouse September 13, 2010 6:45 PM BST
Rollo, I'm not sure they would be all that happy to see this piece.

Their PR objective is to deceive the public that they are a company that is honourable, fair and sporting.

We obviously all know that's absolutely not the case, but the 'recreational' punters that they now exclusively want to do business with really don't...
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