Seems had the right idea at 44.0 exch at time of posting. You'll struggle to get 33/1 with popular layers now. Hills went 40/1 and thought about each-way but they only go 25/1 now. Saw Blaklion win at Aintree recently. Looked as good as all except perhaps Might Bite. Trip no fears anyway
Seems had the right idea at 44.0 exch at time of posting. You'll struggle to get 33/1 with popular layers now. Hills went 40/1 and thought about each-way but they only go 25/1 now. Saw Blaklion win at Aintree recently. Looked as good as all except pe
His main target is the Grand National - hope weight (yet to be announced) not too burdensome. On RSA form a stone or more to find though nevertheless, a better prospect than Coney Island (unlikely stayer), I believe.
His main target is the Grand National - hope weight (yet to be announced) not too burdensome. On RSA form a stone or more to find though nevertheless, a better prospect than Coney Island (unlikely stayer), I believe.
I've also backed Blaklion antepost at 40/1, but I fear he won't run in the Gold Cup, they are hell-bent on the Grand National. I think the GN would be a mistake, the handicapper is going to take no prisoners given the 4th place last year and Becher romp. I expect he will get his official weight plus another couple of pounds, so plenty more weight than last year. Although he has improved and a more patient ride will help I just think the weight will be too much
I've also backed Blaklion antepost at 40/1, but I fear he won't run in the Gold Cup, they are hell-bent on the Grand National. I think the GN would be a mistake, the handicapper is going to take no prisoners given the 4th place last year and Becher r
I've backed him at 40/1 as well. Think it's probably only 50/50 they run as it would be hard to see him winning a GN after a gruelling race in the GC a few weeks before. But fingers crossed. He's a 16/1 poke if he runs imo.
I've backed him at 40/1 as well. Think it's probably only 50/50 they run as it would be hard to see him winning a GN after a gruelling race in the GC a few weeks before. But fingers crossed. He's a 16/1 poke if he runs imo.
A month between the Gold Cup and Grand National this year so i would think strong odds on to run in both from what the stable have said. Couldn't fancy him for the gold cup myself but i guess worse 33/1 shots.
A month between the Gold Cup and Grand National this year so i would think strong odds on to run in both from what the stable have said. Couldn't fancy him for the gold cup myself but i guess worse 33/1 shots.
I think Blaklion would be a worthy runner in the Gold Cup (GC), and have a decent chance for a place if either Sizing John and/or Our Duke underperform. He seems to have improved and apart from Might Bite the likes of Native River (well-being only on trust) and Coney Island (stamina a question to me) he could easily run into a place. However, I do agree though to run in the GC and then the Grand National could be a race too soon and too many. But the money on offer is humongous.
I think Blaklion would be a worthy runner in the Gold Cup (GC), and have a decent chance for a place if either Sizing John and/or Our Duke underperform. He seems to have improved and apart from Might Bite the likes of Native River (well-being only on
Terrible price indeed, and before the weight has been announced too. Bet you he'll be lumbered with a hefty rise post his credible performances this season.
Terrible price indeed, and before the weight has been announced too. Bet you he'll be lumbered with a hefty rise post his credible performances this season.
given Bristol de Mai's love of flat, left-handed courses on soft/heavy and in the early part of the season, plus Definitely Red's form since the Charlie Hall, the Blaklion run at Wetherby is looking very solid form now. I hope connections realise what a great chance this horse would have in the Gold Cup, and no reason why they can't go for both GC and GN
given Bristol de Mai's love of flat, left-handed courses on soft/heavy and in the early part of the season, plus Definitely Red's form since the Charlie Hall, the Blaklion run at Wetherby is looking very solid form now. I hope connections realise wha
Blaklion, down to run in the National trial Feb 17th, seen 7/2. Is that too close to have a tilt at the Gold Cup, with the National itself on the agenda too?
Blaklion, down to run in the National trial Feb 17th, seen 7/2. Is that too close to have a tilt at the Gold Cup, with the National itself on the agenda too?
it does look that way, I'm hoping they will change their minds when the weights are announced, handicapper is going to slaughter him, top weight guaranteed
it does look that way, I'm hoping they will change their minds when the weights are announced, handicapper is going to slaughter him, top weight guaranteed
blaklion wasnt fancied when he won the rsa in a weak year , the only win on allegedly good ground , i feel he needs the soft or heavy and is likely to be weighted out of the grand national this year, he had his chance last year with 11-1 , looked a genuine stayer in his point to point and that rsa , but he outplodded shaneshill up the hill in that rsa and hasnt turned cartwheels for me since.
blaklion wasnt fancied when he won the rsa in a weak year , the only win on allegedly good ground , i feel he needs the soft or heavy and is likely to be weighted out of the grand national this year, he had his chance last year with 11-1 , looked a g
Very genuine horse,who falls below top class,thats how I would describe him. The RSA fell into his lap, and they know hes not up to winning a Gold Cup.
Would agree last year was his big chance for the National,he will surely have more weight this year.
Very genuine horse,who falls below top class,thats how I would describe him.The RSA fell into his lap, and they know hes not up to winning a Gold Cup.Would agree last year was his big chance for the National,he will surely have more weight this year.
Fair point,soft ground would help him, People just presume it will be good/soft or better, but you are right of course....soft ground is a possibility.
Fair point,soft ground would help him,People just presume it will be good/soft or better, but you are right of course....soft ground is a possibility.
i thought he maybe a new seemorebusiness but i think he just a few pounds below that . i think he plateaued defo red is on the up though my advise would be to look at him for the gold cup
i thought he maybe a new seemorebusiness but i think he just a few pounds below that . i think he plateaued defo red is on the up though my advise would be to look at him for the gold cup
defo red beat blacklion 10.5 ls native river only 7.5ls then blacklion won nto so that was his form , defo red is in the form of his life and is being nurtured for the gold cup @20-1 native river imo is a race or two behind in terms of sharpness and is 6-7 -1 .
defo red beat blacklion 10.5 ls native river only 7.5ls then blacklion won nto so that was his form , defo red is in the form of his life and is being nurtured for the gold cup @20-1 native river imo is a race or two behind in terms of sharpness and
The Grand National weights are out and he's got 11st 6lbs with Definitely Red (DR) shouldering top weight of 11st 10lbs; in between are BDM, Edwulf, Outlander and Minella Rocco (MR) all but one are unlikely runners. So, he could be shouldering top weight eventually if DR and MR take up their position in the Gold Cup.
The Grand National weights are out and he's got 11st 6lbs with Definitely Red (DR) shouldering top weight of 11st 10lbs; in between are BDM, Edwulf, Outlander and Minella Rocco (MR) all but one are unlikely runners. So, he could be shouldering top we
Blaklion given his official weight in the National, they have got to count their lucky stars on that one, I would have Blaklion over DR in the GN getting 4lbs. Blaklion got a decent hike for the Becher win but how he got away with the run in the Charlie Hall is a mystery, I seem to remember he got dropped 2lbs or something really daft!
Blaklion given his official weight in the National, they have got to count their lucky stars on that one, I would have Blaklion over DR in the GN getting 4lbs. Blaklion got a decent hike for the Becher win but how he got away with the run in the Char
I think backers of Blaklion (B) would be hoping DR does not run well in the Gold Cup, if so, a likely runner in the Grand National (GN). Otherwise, B could be lumbered with top weight which is a burden, to say the least.
I think backers of Blaklion (B) would be hoping DR does not run well in the Gold Cup, if so, a likely runner in the Grand National (GN). Otherwise, B could be lumbered with top weight which is a burden, to say the least.
Impossible, I'm no expert but don't weights going up only benefit those out of the handicap?
Don't see how a bad run by Deffo Red in the Gold Cup, results in more chance of a National bid. Sure will give a good account in the Gold Cup, then they will decide on the National?
Impossible, I'm no expert but don't weights going up only benefit those out of the handicap?Don't see how a bad run by Deffo Red in the Gold Cup, results in more chance of a National bid. Sure will give a good account in the Gold Cup, then they will
If DR lost all chance oP winning the Gold Cup or be placed he'll be allowed to come home in his own time and not subject to a hard race thus increasing the chance of his participation in the Grand National (GN). However, if the opposite was to happen eg triumphant or be placed it'd be less likely he'd taking in the GN but could run in the Aintree Bowl or wait for the punchestown Festival instead. And, next season the GC would be most likely his target again.
I'm no expert either. However, you are correct to infer a weight rise does benefit horses that are out of the handicap, but it also means a bigger burden for any horse already shouldering a hefty weight prior eg Blaklion, especially if the horse concerned is a midget. Also, any serious participant at the bottom of the weights will tend to benefit the most from a weight rise should the top weight decamp.
This is just my understanding.
If DR lost all chance oP winning the Gold Cup or be placed he'll be allowed to come home in his own time and not subject to a hard race thus increasing the chance of his participation in the Grand National (GN). However, if the opposite was to happen
Interesting. So, if one horse is due to carry 11 stone and one 10 stone but they end up carrying 12 stone and 11 stone, it favours the latter. Size of horse counts so the nit-picking of a couple of pounds in handicaps that many see as the be all I say negligible
I realise people have different understandings on the matter
Interesting. So, if one horse is due to carry 11 stone and one 10 stone but they end up carrying 12 stone and 11 stone, it favours the latter. Size of horse counts so the nit-picking of a couple of pounds in handicaps that many see as the be all I sa
They used to say that every pound over 12.00 is equivalent to 2 at lighter weights but very few horses carry 12.00 these days. It is s certainly not a linear graph-in other words each lb extra slows them down a bit more than the previous one.
They used to say that every pound over 12.00 is equivalent to 2 at lighter weights but very few horses carry 12.00 these days. It is s certainly not a linear graph-in other words each lb extra slows them down a bit more than the previous one.
Everything was legless in the straight apart from Yala Enki. Must be desperate ground. Same thing in the novice hurdle. Only the winner able to jump the last properly.
Everything was legless in the straight apart from Yala Enki. Must be desperate ground. Same thing in the novice hurdle. Only the winner able to jump the last properly.
Problem with this race now, although mid February, most trainers will be reluctant to run in it again after seeing that yesterday bar a yala enki, could bottom a horse for the season. dreadful ground.
Problem with this race now, although mid February, most trainers will be reluctant to run in it again after seeing that yesterday bar a yala enki, could bottom a horse for the season. dreadful ground.
Was my main bet in National last year and will keep the faith.
My concern is stamina ... he was tanking along 3 out and was swamped near the last. Watching run Saturday does question how much stamina he has... over 4 miles... nagging doubt in my head would be top 4 and no cigar...
Was my main bet in National last year and will keep the faith.My concern is stamina ... he was tanking along 3 out and was swamped near the last. Watching run Saturday does question how much stamina he has... over 4 miles... nagging doubt in my head
Same here facts and the trainer was confident it would stay. There must have been some false ground along the Haydock straight for so many horses to stop like that. I would put a line through all Haydock form on Saturday but I fear for the recovery time of anything that ran well.
Same here facts and the trainer was confident it would stay. There must have been some false ground along the Haydock straight for so many horses to stop like that. I would put a line through all Haydock form on Saturday but I fear for the recovery t