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The Dragon
07 Nov 17 20:46
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i think they should retire the horse , had its day and i pary he is not an accident waiting to happen. Seems to have lost the ability to jump a clear round
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Report impossible123 November 7, 2017 10:00 PM GMT
No, not yet. Cue Card probably would have won the Charlie Hall had he not fallen. On the other hand I'd agree if you'd said Coneygree would be best retired,...the horse is fragile.
Report IrisDeBalme November 8, 2017 10:47 AM GMT
Yes totally agree - should NOT be retired... bar a fall - think he will be in top 3 in Betfair Chase

I think the thread should read "CUE CARD - Time for a new Jockey"
Report Desmond Orchard November 8, 2017 12:29 PM GMT
I agree with The Dragon, he's tipping up too often for comfort now, I'm finding it hard to enjoy his races. I love the horse and think he has done enough, a fabulous servant to stable, owners and fans alike.
He'll never win a Gold Cup now and he's won everything else, so what else is there?
Let him munch polos in a field, a fall like Saturday's could easily end him.
Report The Dragon November 10, 2017 5:08 PM GMT
i agrre desmomnd , have been a massive fan over the yeras and what a wonderful horse. My herat is in my mouth evertytime i sse him jump a fence now. He owes noything to anyone let him retire gracefully before he gets injured
Report dunlaying November 10, 2017 5:43 PM GMT
Hear here.
Report impossible123 November 10, 2017 5:47 PM GMT
If he falls again in his next race,...a trip to 'specsavers' and/or retire. I think Cue Card could still beat horses like Outlander, Coneygree, Blaklion and Minella Rocco; he was going ok in the Charlie Hall when he fell.
Report The Dragon November 10, 2017 6:07 PM GMT
yes but he fell and he keeps on doing it . his jumping used to be impeccable its not anymore ,, any fool can see his time has gone time for the owners and trainers to grow a pair and let him retire gracefuully his fans and the horse deserve it!
Report firstimevisor November 10, 2017 8:35 PM GMT
Why would you retire the horse when he obviously loves what he's doing. He's still one of the best chasers in training.I wouldn't think its much fun for a horse getting turfed out into a field for the rest of his life. Getting fat and people pushing carrots and polo mints down his throat when he could have another year or two as an elite athlete. He'll be retired,and bored, for long enough when the time comes.
Report sageform November 11, 2017 9:01 AM GMT
If he gets beaten out of sight then yes, but a fall can happen to any of them.
Report FOYLESWAR November 11, 2017 9:33 AM GMT
in t2 camps here still think cue card has a big race in him somewhere ,could be another betfair similar to kauto star when he defied age and expectations to regain it ,on the other hand the jumping is a concern but that last blip was said to be low sun the cause ,dont think connections would let him carry on if he indicated that he was not enjoying it .
Report sageform November 12, 2017 3:07 PM GMT
Theatre Guide has had many more hard races than Cue Card but still ran a blinder under top weight on Saturday.
Report dunlaying November 12, 2017 4:56 PM GMT
Something is hurting the horse. At Ascot last season he looked as if he wanted to down tools and we know he has heart.
Report The Dragon November 13, 2017 11:04 AM GMT
tbh i wd be surprised if he won another top flight race
Report The Dragon November 13, 2017 11:08 AM GMT
last 3 races f2f says it all really
Report sageform November 14, 2017 7:36 PM GMT
No way will I oppose him at Haydock. If he gets well beaten there I might accept that he is on the wane.
Report The Dragon November 24, 2017 6:12 PM GMT
RUNNINg at haydock rtommorrow heavy going and more rain forecasted if he falls again will that be it? lets hope he gets around safe
Report Ibrahima Sonko November 25, 2017 11:42 AM GMT
I agree with sageform.

Most horses fall, calling out his last 3 runs as evidence on an overall historic line of form is silly.

We want all horses to come home safely and retire at some point but to doubt a horse who races at the top of the game is not right. Its not like he jumps like The Last Fling Sad

I still remember the day at cheltenham where i witnessed brilliance when he won his bumper Mischief
Report IrisDeBalme November 25, 2017 1:41 PM GMT
If you look at his last run - he had all the chance bar his fall...

Don't think he is regressing....

Trainer is right to get new jockey .... as he must know this horse works better than the form suggests.

I Think this horse will win ... not 100% but is rather have him than the fave..

Good luck
Report The Dragon November 25, 2017 1:52 PM GMT
will be interesting thats for sure
Report The Dragon November 25, 2017 3:08 PM GMT
at least he got round safe
Report The Dragon November 25, 2017 3:09 PM GMT
beaten 57 lengths
Report Ibrahima Sonko November 25, 2017 3:10 PM GMT
You may have a point TD
Report The Dragon November 25, 2017 3:22 PM GMT
i take no pleasure in it ibra as i love the horse  i just think its time to call it a day and keep him safe
Report impossible123 November 25, 2017 3:37 PM GMT
Others might not have run to form and/or less suited to condition than BDM nevertheless, BDM looked and was impressive in his win. But I believe it is time to call it a day with Cue Card and retires him; he owes no one anything,...and to run pound for pound with Tea For Two (to quote the remark of Tizzard, post race) is just not the Cue Card we know.
Report firstimevisor November 25, 2017 3:51 PM GMT
If Cue card could talk, my guess is that he would tell you all to fookoff and leave him alone to get on with his racing!

So what if he's not quite as good as before. He showed today he's still a bloody good racehorse.
Report The Dragon November 25, 2017 4:03 PM GMT
cant agree firsttime horses safety must come first and hes gone at the top level im afraid
Report firstimevisor November 25, 2017 4:29 PM GMT
But he's no more, or less, a safety risk than any other horse.There are tons of horses older than him still in training and enjoying life. That race today was top level. He was second and had some proper grade 1 horses well behind.
Report The Dragon November 25, 2017 5:19 PM GMT
yes burt his record is now 2f2f and beaten 57 lengths by a younger horse, hes 11 now and tgime to celebrate his wonderful career and bow out with grace
Report cvbyrne. November 25, 2017 6:13 PM GMT
His record since his last win in the betfair chase just over a year ago is 21F2F2 so he's won or come second in Grade 1 chases when completing in 4 of those 6 runs. With earnings of £202,000

If I owned him he would go to Lexus Chase, then back to that Ascot race and on to the Gold Cup.
Report Autocue November 26, 2017 10:25 AM GMT
The jury was out at Wetherby but he showed yesterday he has regressed.
Report The Dragon December 16, 2017 9:37 AM GMT
looks like tizzard and owners have come to their senses and will retire this wonderful horse after 3 runs in the spring
Report The Dragon February 15, 2018 5:04 PM GMT
sadto see its 10/1 for ascot chase aty te weekend

lets hope it throws the form book out of the window

wont havwe my monet though
Report impossible123 February 15, 2018 5:31 PM GMT
I hope he wins and goes the Ryanair for his finale race as fav.
Report The Dragon February 16, 2018 9:30 AM GMT
indeed
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY February 16, 2018 9:31 PM GMT
ONCE BEATEN at Ascot tomorrow, he will be retired, younger legs against him tomorrow in the shape of 3 upcoming chasers and a loon that will try to take them all apart from the get go.

Waiting Patiently will be a popular winner
Report sageform February 17, 2018 4:43 PM GMT
Only a future superstar got the better of the best 2.5 mile chaser we have seen for a very long time. Hope to see him in the Ryanair.
Report the bloob February 17, 2018 7:32 PM GMT
don't write off the old dog just yet! imagine if he won the Ryanair?
Report impossible123 February 17, 2018 7:57 PM GMT
A majestic run by Cue Card, and with Brennan onboard too. Only beaten by Waiting Patiently who may not be Cheltenham bound. Let's hope he wins the Ryanair, and retires after.
Report sageform February 18, 2018 7:23 AM GMT
Don't even suggest that Waiting Patiently will miss the Ryanair! My best ante post of the season so far.
Report acey deucy February 18, 2018 12:56 PM GMT
The Dragon.Laugh
Report IrisDeBalme February 19, 2018 5:38 PM GMT
Cant believe theyre touting this horse in GC... will struggle to be in top 5...  few runs suggests still has ability... but will always be prone to a few errors ... and younger types...

I think Ryanair is more suitable shorter distance and can get placed...
Report impossible123 February 19, 2018 7:22 PM GMT
Neither can I. One minute he'd had his chances in the Gold Cup and sights lowered to eg Ryanair or Aintree Bowl. Now, after a good run against Waiting Patiently over the weekend where Top Notch and Coney Island ran well below par the target has been switched again to the Blue Riband race.

A classic example of not cutting the cloth to suit, I firmly believe.
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