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ian merseyside
11 Oct 18 16:09
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I was thinking of having a small punt on Scotland tonight and was expecting to get odds of about 3-1.  I've just checked and can't believe they are clear favourites!  Am I missing something?
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Report Johnny_Mustang October 11, 2018 4:27 PM BST
Scotland should never be favourites for anything in any sport. However, if choking at the polling stations was a recognised event they'd be 1.01 and undisputed world champions.
Report badjoe October 11, 2018 5:04 PM BST
Why were you expecting 3/1 ? Israel got beaten by Albania in this group, a team we put 2 past without reply, their last game was a 3-0 pumping by NI, the only teams they have beaten in their last 11 games are Liechtenstein and Andorra and they have lost their last 4 home games. We can win tonight, we should be winning tonight, but Win Drw No Bet might be safer.
Report badjoe October 11, 2018 5:06 PM BST

Oct 11, 2018 -- 4:27PM, Johnny_Mustang wrote:


Scotland should never be favourites for anything in any sport. However, if choking at the polling stations was a recognised event they'd be 1.01 and undisputed world champions.


As for Muggy_Mugstang's comments, The Scottish people voted for what they thought was best for Scotland, financially and otherwise, we didn't trust the Scottish Nazi Party with total control.

Report themightymac October 11, 2018 5:13 PM BST
They were 9/4 yesterday. Early bird catches the worm.
Report JC1326 October 11, 2018 6:26 PM BST
Only reason I can think of for that price is that it's the same situation as Slovakia-Denmark the other month, where the Danes played a side made up of futsal players and guys from the nearest pub. Even then I'd still make Scotland 2.68, price seems fair
Report Geesyerdosh October 11, 2018 7:07 PM BST
You would have to be nuts to back us as favourites in a competitive away match managed by Alex McLeish. Hopefully be wrong but no surprise if we lose.

Leigh Griffiths can fuuck off as well.
Report Platini October 11, 2018 7:26 PM BST
As poor as Israel are (and they certainly are) I could never have any confidence backing Scotland away from home.
They might nick a win but its a horrible price.

The value is with the draw, which is a big player here.

correct scores 0-0 and 1-1 is worth a look.
Report SlippyBlue October 11, 2018 7:28 PM BST
Unders looks an absolute given. Even though it's a skinny price it looks an absolute banker.
Report GRANTCKING October 11, 2018 7:31 PM BST
under 0.5, under 1.5, under 2.5
Report GRANTCKING October 11, 2018 7:31 PM BST
this is 2 shockingly bad football teams
Report SlippyBlue October 11, 2018 7:32 PM BST
Thought you would be on unders as well Grant!Grin
Report Platini October 11, 2018 7:32 PM BST
Yep, unders looks rock solid.
Report badjoe October 11, 2018 7:36 PM BST
Naismith anytime @ 3/1 my only bet here.
Report anxious October 11, 2018 7:38 PM BST
The Jocks will beat this mob 13-8 is a decent price
Report GRANTCKING October 11, 2018 7:42 PM BST

Oct 11, 2018 -- 7:32PM, SlippyBlue wrote:


Thought you would be on unders as well Grant!


Grin

Report Johnny_Mustang October 11, 2018 7:43 PM BST
Scots win the anthem, 1-0.
Report SlippyBlue October 11, 2018 7:47 PM BST
I'll be totally amazed and a few quid poorer if this game goes over 2.5.
Report SlippyBlue October 11, 2018 8:03 PM BST
I'm taking Muttley out for his late night spin, he hasn't had a pony today yet so he is probably good to go now. Back at half time and I'm expecting it to be still 0-0. These really are two mediocre sides and that is me being polite.
Report stroodle October 11, 2018 8:09 PM BST
LovePen
Report GRANTCKING October 11, 2018 8:10 PM BST
feck me 1-0 bonnie scotland
Report Geesyerdosh October 11, 2018 8:10 PM BST
clear pen. Now bury it
Report Geesyerdosh October 11, 2018 8:10 PM BST
Grin
Report stroodle October 11, 2018 8:10 PM BST
Love
Report akabula October 11, 2018 8:14 PM BST
Happy
Report badjoe October 11, 2018 8:15 PM BST
I though Naisy might have taken the pens :( but hey we are 1 up :)
Report stroodle October 11, 2018 8:17 PM BST
Charlie showed how to take a pen there, just fcuking lash it in.
Report Geesyerdosh October 11, 2018 8:27 PM BST
We are lucky to be leading, haven't played well and created nothing.
Report themightymac October 11, 2018 8:37 PM BST
Mulgrew has been the designated penalty kick take for a while.
Report G Hall October 11, 2018 8:44 PM BST
Just heard archies half time report he expects at least ine israel goal in the second half
Report Platini October 11, 2018 8:48 PM BST
1-1 will do me,

but don't equalise too early Israel, if you don't mind Cool
Report Geesyerdosh October 11, 2018 8:51 PM BST
Hopefully McLeish has went through them at half time, we're winning fuuck all with that first half performance
Report Geesyerdosh October 11, 2018 8:54 PM BST
We are all over the place, the back 3 isn't working and the midfield offer fuuck all protection
Report Geesyerdosh October 11, 2018 8:56 PM BST
Fuucking joke 1-1
Report badjoe October 11, 2018 8:56 PM BST

Oct 11, 2018 -- 8:37PM, themightymac wrote:


Mulgrew has been the designated penalty kick take for a while.


Mulgrew has never taken a penalty for Scotland, last Penalty taken for Scotland was by Snodgrass

Report Geesyerdosh October 11, 2018 8:59 PM BST
We are getting battered by shiite, get to fuuck McLeish ya useless alkie baastard
Report Platini October 11, 2018 9:00 PM BST
too early. FFS


never mind, greened up at 2/1 on correct score.
Report Geesyerdosh October 11, 2018 9:05 PM BST
Dabbur ya cheating ccuunt
Report stroodle October 11, 2018 9:05 PM BST
scotland don't look like they would score again, thats even before that bloke got sent off.
Report Geesyerdosh October 11, 2018 9:09 PM BST
Putting McLeish in charge of Scotland is like putting Gazza in charge of England, absolute lunacy
Report stroodle October 11, 2018 9:09 PM BST
What a miss
Report tobermory October 11, 2018 9:10 PM BST
Wow Israel nearly break crossbar
Report stroodle October 11, 2018 9:10 PM BST

Oct 11, 2018 -- 9:09PM, Geesyerdosh wrote:


Putting McLeish in charge of Scotland is like putting Gazza in charge of England, absolute lunacy


Agree

Report tobermory October 11, 2018 9:11 PM BST
McLeish has them set up like they are playing Spain.
Report hulk23 October 11, 2018 9:13 PM BST
seen 7-0's that were less one-sided than this ...
Report cool_hand_luke October 11, 2018 9:14 PM BST
Strachan had them doing OK considering how limited they are and was given the boot, Scotland could move 20 years backwards with a manager that really doesn't have a clue and players not interested in playing for him.
Report Geesyerdosh October 11, 2018 9:18 PM BST
1-2 we are done
Report stroodle October 11, 2018 9:19 PM BST
Game was only going one way
Report GRANTCKING October 11, 2018 9:19 PM BST
LaughLaughLaugh own goal, scotland have been battered by israel, fecking hell hang ur heads in shame lads
Report SlippyBlue October 11, 2018 9:19 PM BST
My unders busted, just how bad Are Scotland?
Report GRANTCKING October 11, 2018 9:20 PM BST
absolutely shocking slippy
Report attitude adjuster October 11, 2018 9:20 PM BST
naismith run round like he was in his 50s tonight
Report SlippyBlue October 11, 2018 9:21 PM BST
As a Palace man I'm used to seeing mediocrity especially the last couple of seasons but Lordy, Scotland are grim beyond words.
Report hulk23 October 11, 2018 9:22 PM BST
i'd take the 1-2 and get back to the airport pronto .. should be about 6 or 7
Report themightymac October 11, 2018 9:23 PM BST
Scotland make Palace look like Real Madrid Cry
Report Geesyerdosh October 11, 2018 9:23 PM BST
Crazy thing is we let a guy called Alan McRae who makes Paul Merson look like Albert Einstein get the deciding vote on the manager and  guess what he picks one of his pals, and just to show what an idiot he is then holds a press conference to tell everyone he's given him the job because he's one of his pals and that he organised his testimonial in the 1800's. You couldn't make it up.

It's absolute fuucking insanity.
Report Johnny_Mustang October 11, 2018 9:25 PM BST
Do the Scots throw it away everywhere or is it just Haifa and the polling stations?
Report akabula October 11, 2018 9:26 PM BST
Mark: At the start - 'Their shirts made them look like Uruguay. Now - 'We're making them look like Uruguay.'

Spot on comment on the bbc site.
Report SlippyBlue October 11, 2018 9:26 PM BST
"Crazy thing is we let a guy called Alan McRae who makes Paul Merson look like Albert Einstein"

I've done my dough tonight Geesyerdosh but that did give me a genuine LOL Laugh
Report CLYDEBANK29 October 11, 2018 9:30 PM BST
Alex McClueless
Report skygreenzone October 11, 2018 9:31 PM BST
Scotland oh dear.
Report themightymac October 11, 2018 9:32 PM BST
They done well to get beat only 2-1.
Report hulk23 October 11, 2018 9:35 PM BST
half decent team would brush israel aside, probably why scotland were so short before ko ...
Report akabula October 11, 2018 9:36 PM BST
They've had 24 shots. Even Fort William don't get that many against them.
Report Geesyerdosh October 11, 2018 9:36 PM BST
It's a fuucking shambles. Destroyed by a team that even n Ireland wiped the floor with.

Players without a clue what they are meant to be doing. Will they sack the clueless alkie past it donkey? not a fuucking hope.

Hopefully no one turns up v Portugal on Sunday.
Report SlippyBlue October 11, 2018 9:40 PM BST
What a shockingly inept side Scotland are, that was a complete and utter embarrassingly poor display tonight. Just so devoid of ideas and talent, absolutely clueless as to how to create chances and to be a force going forward. I'd put them on a par with San Marino and that is me being generous.
Report hulk23 October 11, 2018 9:43 PM BST
horrible, clueless, no invention, poor midfield, lack of cohesion, shocking finishing. 




and they still beat scotland 2-1 ...
Report Geesyerdosh October 11, 2018 9:44 PM BST
That has to be the worst display by Scotland in living memory. McLeish has took us back a trillion years.
Report themightymac October 11, 2018 9:45 PM BST
We were scared to beat them in case it made us antisemites Crazy
Report tobermory October 11, 2018 9:54 PM BST
When McCleish goes they will probably appoint Walter Smith.
Report themightymac October 11, 2018 9:57 PM BST
Pity Harry Houdini isn`t available.
Report themightymac October 11, 2018 9:58 PM BST
.... surely he would have got us out of the Group.
Report Northofperth October 11, 2018 10:02 PM BST
Looked at the betting on this game in W . Hills ; the coupon had Israel to win 11/8 , but on their screens Israel were 21/10 . I didn't have a bet , but I wondered if it was an error or half the Israel team had fallen unwell . A joke manager who's basically unemployable , and got the Scotland job partly because of nepotism and a dearth of willing/suitable candidates .
Report Geesyerdosh October 11, 2018 10:02 PM BST
Strachan got the boot for failure to qualify fair enough but we were light years ahead of this rubbish under him. This was off the scale, tactics useless players no idea what they were meant to be doing and didn't even try to change things when it was obviously wrong.

McLeish is the worst appointment in the history of club or international football ever.
Report Geesyerdosh October 11, 2018 10:07 PM BST
Unemployable is the right word, his record has been disastrous the last few years and he sounds seriously unstable in his interviews.

I still can't believe he was appointed. It's total insanity.
Report CLYDEBANK29 October 11, 2018 11:13 PM BST
Seems their preparation was terrible too.  Taken from the BBC website

"It's easy to be wise after the fact, but a long day of travelling yesterday, a late arrival and delayed training session"

That is amateurish in the extreme
Report Geesyerdosh October 11, 2018 11:34 PM BST
Apparently McLeish said in his press conference he was gonna substitute Souttar for McKenna just before he was sent off. That despite McKenna already having been on the pitch for about 15 minutes.

Get tae fuuck ya raging alcoholic. The guy needs medical help not managing our country.
Report Platini October 12, 2018 3:25 PM BST
I've said for a couple of years now that the man looked ill. You only have to watch any of his interviews, he's barely recognisable - maybe its just age, maybe its the drink, I don't know but he shouldn't be anywhere near a managerial job, let alone the National team.
Report liberator of the oppressed October 12, 2018 7:03 PM BST
Do you remember the Father Ted game could Scotland beat that lot just so embarrassing.
Report liberator of the oppressed October 12, 2018 7:04 PM BST
Get Nicola to manage the team.
Report akabula October 12, 2018 9:18 PM BST
Agree with Plat but the problem we have is who, apart from McGhee, would take the job?
Report Platini October 12, 2018 9:21 PM BST
thats exactly why he was appointed, Aka. there is nobody. He was the best of a very bad bunch, and I said so at the time.
I also said we should get behind him anyway, at least until it goes pear-shaped


I think we've reached that point now, tho Sad
Report akabula October 12, 2018 9:36 PM BST
Got to admit I like the man simply because he was a good manager for us and seemed a decent person.
I hoped he'd defy the odds and be successful here but it's already obvious that he hasn't got the ability to take Scotland anywhere.
2-1 but could have been much more but for McGregor in goals and their poor finishing. Okay from a decent team but Israel?
Report Geesyerdosh October 12, 2018 9:45 PM BST
Steve Clarke is an obvious choice. He would have us totally organised and every player would know their job.

Sadly the SFA won't admit they've made a disastrous appointment and rectify their mistake.
Report akabula October 12, 2018 9:55 PM BST
Would Steve Clarke take the job?
Report themightymac October 12, 2018 10:01 PM BST
McLeish is a first rate human being. Management not for him though. They need to go for a top foreign manager. Nobody in Scottish football good enough for the job.
Report Geesyerdosh October 12, 2018 11:14 PM BST
The short time the manager has with the players the best they can do is get them organised in a system they understand. Clarke would be ideal at that and I'm sure he'd take the job he's not going to get Killie much higher with the budget they have.

As much as I blame McLeish it's the SFA who are the biggest culprits. They've even got Scott Gemmill as under 21 coach and he's worse than McLeish!
Report Platini October 13, 2018 4:18 PM BST
Stevie Clarke would be terrific but theres no way he'd take it.

Also no way the SFA would be that ambitious.
Report CLYDEBANK29 October 13, 2018 7:10 PM BST
Sam Allardyce would be a good appointment imo.
Report themightymac October 13, 2018 9:58 PM BST
Alex said today that he will turn it round.
Report BARNEY15C October 13, 2018 10:33 PM BST
No one wants to play for Scotland anymore!
Report BARNEY15C October 13, 2018 10:37 PM BST
thats 5 withdrawls  now for the next game, remember them McLeish, if you can turn it around you can tell them to f uck right off.
Report BARNEY15C October 14, 2018 6:41 PM BST
Another defeat looming 2-0 Portugal... McLeish is a dead man walking, surely?
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