Scotland should never be favourites for anything in any sport. However, if choking at the polling stations was a recognised event they'd be 1.01 and undisputed world champions.

Why were you expecting 3/1 ? Israel got beaten by Albania in this group, a team we put 2 past without reply, their last game was a 3-0 pumping by NI, the only teams they have beaten in their last 11 games are Liechtenstein and Andorra and they have lost their last 4 home games. We can win tonight, we should be winning tonight, but Win Drw No Bet might be safer.

Oct 11, 2018 -- 10:27AM, Johnny_Mustang wrote:

Scotland should never be favourites for anything in any sport. However, if choking at the polling stations was a recognised event they'd be 1.01 and undisputed world champions.

As for Muggy_Mugstang's comments, The Scottish people voted for what they thought was best for Scotland, financially and otherwise, we didn't trust the Scottish Nazi Party with total control.

They were 9/4 yesterday. Early bird catches the worm.

Only reason I can think of for that price is that it's the same situation as Slovakia-Denmark the other month, where the Danes played a side made up of futsal players and guys from the nearest pub. Even then I'd still make Scotland 2.68, price seems fair

You would have to be nuts to back us as favourites in a competitive away match managed by Alex McLeish. Hopefully be wrong but no surprise if we lose.

Leigh Griffiths can fuuck off as well.

As poor as Israel are (and they certainly are) I could never have any confidence backing Scotland away from home.
They might nick a win but its a horrible price.

The value is with the draw, which is a big player here.

correct scores 0-0 and 1-1 is worth a look.

Unders looks an absolute given. Even though it's a skinny price it looks an absolute banker.

under 0.5, under 1.5, under 2.5

this is 2 shockingly bad football teams

Thought you would be on unders as well Grant!

Yep, unders looks rock solid.

Naismith anytime @ 3/1 my only bet here.

The Jocks will beat this mob 13-8 is a decent price

Oct 11, 2018 -- 1:32PM, SlippyBlue wrote:

Thought you would be on unders as well Grant!

Scots win the anthem, 1-0.

I'll be totally amazed and a few quid poorer if this game goes over 2.5.

I'm taking Muttley out for his late night spin, he hasn't had a pony today yet so he is probably good to go now. Back at half time and I'm expecting it to be still 0-0. These really are two mediocre sides and that is me being polite.

Pen

feck me 1-0 bonnie scotland

clear pen. Now bury it

I though Naisy might have taken the pens :( but hey we are 1 up :)

Charlie showed how to take a pen there, just fcuking lash it in.

We are lucky to be leading, haven't played well and created nothing.

Mulgrew has been the designated penalty kick take for a while.

Just heard archies half time report he expects at least ine israel goal in the second half

1-1 will do me,

but don't equalise too early Israel, if you don't mind

Hopefully McLeish has went through them at half time, we're winning fuuck all with that first half performance

We are all over the place, the back 3 isn't working and the midfield offer fuuck all protection

Fuucking joke 1-1

Oct 11, 2018 -- 2:37PM, themightymac wrote:

Mulgrew has been the designated penalty kick take for a while.

Mulgrew has never taken a penalty for Scotland, last Penalty taken for Scotland was by Snodgrass

We are getting battered by shiite, get to fuuck McLeish ya useless alkie baastard

too early. FFS


never mind, greened up at 2/1 on correct score.

Dabbur ya cheating ccuunt

scotland don't look like they would score again, thats even before that bloke got sent off.

Putting McLeish in charge of Scotland is like putting Gazza in charge of England, absolute lunacy

What a miss

Wow Israel nearly break crossbar

Oct 11, 2018 -- 3:09PM, Geesyerdosh wrote:

Putting McLeish in charge of Scotland is like putting Gazza in charge of England, absolute lunacy

Agree

McLeish has them set up like they are playing Spain.

seen 7-0's that were less one-sided than this ...

Strachan had them doing OK considering how limited they are and was given the boot, Scotland could move 20 years backwards with a manager that really doesn't have a clue and players not interested in playing for him.

1-2 we are done

Game was only going one way

own goal, scotland have been battered by israel, fecking hell hang ur heads in shame lads

My unders busted, just how bad Are Scotland?

absolutely shocking slippy

naismith run round like he was in his 50s tonight

As a Palace man I'm used to seeing mediocrity especially the last couple of seasons but Lordy, Scotland are grim beyond words.

i'd take the 1-2 and get back to the airport pronto .. should be about 6 or 7

Scotland make Palace look like Real Madrid

Crazy thing is we let a guy called Alan McRae who makes Paul Merson look like Albert Einstein get the deciding vote on the manager and  guess what he picks one of his pals, and just to show what an idiot he is then holds a press conference to tell everyone he's given him the job because he's one of his pals and that he organised his testimonial in the 1800's. You couldn't make it up.

It's absolute fuucking insanity.

Do the Scots throw it away everywhere or is it just Haifa and the polling stations?

Mark: At the start - 'Their shirts made them look like Uruguay. Now - 'We're making them look like Uruguay.'

Spot on comment on the bbc site.

"Crazy thing is we let a guy called Alan McRae who makes Paul Merson look like Albert Einstein"

I've done my dough tonight Geesyerdosh but that did give me a genuine LOL

Alex McClueless

Scotland oh dear.

They done well to get beat only 2-1.

half decent team would brush israel aside, probably why scotland were so short before ko ...

They've had 24 shots. Even Fort William don't get that many against them.

It's a fuucking shambles. Destroyed by a team that even n Ireland wiped the floor with.

Players without a clue what they are meant to be doing. Will they sack the clueless alkie past it donkey? not a fuucking hope.

Hopefully no one turns up v Portugal on Sunday.

What a shockingly inept side Scotland are, that was a complete and utter embarrassingly poor display tonight. Just so devoid of ideas and talent, absolutely clueless as to how to create chances and to be a force going forward. I'd put them on a par with San Marino and that is me being generous.

horrible, clueless, no invention, poor midfield, lack of cohesion, shocking finishing. 




and they still beat scotland 2-1 ...

That has to be the worst display by Scotland in living memory. McLeish has took us back a trillion years.

We were scared to beat them in case it made us antisemites

When McCleish goes they will probably appoint Walter Smith.

Pity Harry Houdini isn`t available.

.... surely he would have got us out of the Group.

Looked at the betting on this game in W . Hills ; the coupon had Israel to win 11/8 , but on their screens Israel were 21/10 . I didn't have a bet , but I wondered if it was an error or half the Israel team had fallen unwell . A joke manager who's basically unemployable , and got the Scotland job partly because of nepotism and a dearth of willing/suitable candidates .

Strachan got the boot for failure to qualify fair enough but we were light years ahead of this rubbish under him. This was off the scale, tactics useless players no idea what they were meant to be doing and didn't even try to change things when it was obviously wrong.

McLeish is the worst appointment in the history of club or international football ever.

Unemployable is the right word, his record has been disastrous the last few years and he sounds seriously unstable in his interviews.

I still can't believe he was appointed. It's total insanity.

Seems their preparation was terrible too.  Taken from the BBC website

"It's easy to be wise after the fact, but a long day of travelling yesterday, a late arrival and delayed training session"

That is amateurish in the extreme

Apparently McLeish said in his press conference he was gonna substitute Souttar for McKenna just before he was sent off. That despite McKenna already having been on the pitch for about 15 minutes.

Get tae fuuck ya raging alcoholic. The guy needs medical help not managing our country.

I've said for a couple of years now that the man looked ill. You only have to watch any of his interviews, he's barely recognisable - maybe its just age, maybe its the drink, I don't know but he shouldn't be anywhere near a managerial job, let alone the National team.

Do you remember the Father Ted game could Scotland beat that lot just so embarrassing.

Get Nicola to manage the team.

Agree with Plat but the problem we have is who, apart from McGhee, would take the job?

thats exactly why he was appointed, Aka. there is nobody. He was the best of a very bad bunch, and I said so at the time.
I also said we should get behind him anyway, at least until it goes pear-shaped


I think we've reached that point now, tho

Got to admit I like the man simply because he was a good manager for us and seemed a decent person.
I hoped he'd defy the odds and be successful here but it's already obvious that he hasn't got the ability to take Scotland anywhere.
2-1 but could have been much more but for McGregor in goals and their poor finishing. Okay from a decent team but Israel?

Steve Clarke is an obvious choice. He would have us totally organised and every player would know their job.

Sadly the SFA won't admit they've made a disastrous appointment and rectify their mistake.

Would Steve Clarke take the job?

McLeish is a first rate human being. Management not for him though. They need to go for a top foreign manager. Nobody in Scottish football good enough for the job.

The short time the manager has with the players the best they can do is get them organised in a system they understand. Clarke would be ideal at that and I'm sure he'd take the job he's not going to get Killie much higher with the budget they have.

As much as I blame McLeish it's the SFA who are the biggest culprits. They've even got Scott Gemmill as under 21 coach and he's worse than McLeish!

Stevie Clarke would be terrific but theres no way he'd take it.

Also no way the SFA would be that ambitious.

Sam Allardyce would be a good appointment imo.

Alex said today that he will turn it round.

No one wants to play for Scotland anymore!

thats 5 withdrawls  now for the next game, remember them McLeish, if you can turn it around you can tell them to f uck right off.

Another defeat looming 2-0 Portugal... McLeish is a dead man walking, surely?

Oct 13, 2018 -- 10:18AM, Platini wrote:

Stevie Clarke would be terrific but theres no way he'd take it. Also no way the SFA would be that ambitious.

Steve Clarke since his arrival last year at Kilmarnock, has won more points than any other Scottish premier club.

Killie come back kings

Last 4 games they've gone behind, and gone on to win.