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Tiger Tiger
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The CIES Football Observatory track all players as to their transfer values and has put together the combined individual values throughout each 23 man squad.

There are some interesting outcomes.

CIES Football Observatory explain how they come to the transfer values::
‘The valuations refer to the fair price that the most likely buyer clubs should pay to sign the players.

The sporting performance of both the footballers themselves and their clubs of belonging are included in the algorithm.

In addition, other variables such as age and contract duration are taken into account.
The estimated transfer value for all players participating in the World Cup is €12.6 billion.

At the bottom of the table are three non-European countries with almost no players employed by clubs in the most competitive leagues: Panama, Saudi Arabia and Iran.
The World Cup will probably allow some of them being spotted by teams in the richest football countries.’
Even though they are only third or fourth favourites (see below) for the World Cup, France’s squad is rated most valuable, with a combined valuation of 1.41bn euros (£1.24bn) for the 23 man squad.

Even more surprising maybe is that England, who are 16/1 outsiders are rated the second most valuable squad at 1.38bn euros (£1.22bn), with indeed the most valuable player at the tournament (according to CIES Football Observatory) in Harry Kane – his individual valuation is 201m euros (£177m).

Brazil are favourites with the bookies for the World Cup but only third in this list of values.

Even more surreal is that Germany are close second favourites for the World Cup, and rated number one in the world currently, yet only sixth highest for squad value here.

This tells us a lot about the Premier League and Bundesliga.

With English clubs paying out the most collectively in transfer fees, having all 23 of the England squad playing in the Premier League, guarantees a high value for the squad. On top of that, there is usually assumed to be a premium to be paid when Premier League clubs sign English players, assuming more likely to settle etc.

Conversely, with the vast majority of the German squad playing in their own domestic league, their players tend not to have the transfer value that maybe they should have.

No surprise to see that of the 24 highest value World Cup squads, 13 of them have as their highest value individual, someone who is either now playing in the Premier League, or who has previously done in their career.

Most expensive squad:

France valued at Euros 1.41 Billion
England valued at Euros1.386 Billion
Brazil Euros£1.269 Billion
Spain Euros 965m
Argies Euros 925m
Germany Euros 895m
Belguim 835m
Portugal 656m
Scotland - packet of crisps
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Report salmon spray June 11, 2018 2:35 PM BST
A lot of young players in the England squad boosts the value.
Report Tiger Tiger June 11, 2018 2:39 PM BST
An average of a round £60m per player! I can name a few in that squad that wouldn't get anywhere near that value in an open transfer market and only probably Kane that would get over £60m?
Report salmon spray June 11, 2018 2:45 PM BST
Stirling would fetch £100m
Rashford and Delle Ali are young enough to be in the same bracket.
Not saying they're worth it but the market has gone crazy.
Report Tiger Tiger June 11, 2018 2:57 PM BST
I agree the market has gone crazy SS, but not that crazy! I wouldn't think that any of those three would bring anywhere near £100m, Stirling has yet to perform in the big matches, Rashford, not even guaranteed a place at Old Trafford and Deli seems to have stagnated after a promising start, but as you say, age is on their side.
Report donny osmond June 11, 2018 6:39 PM BST
worth every penny tiger, ......

kane would be worth more than neymar to the right club

theres £45 million defenders cant even get in the squad
Report Tiger Tiger June 11, 2018 7:27 PM BST
With the best will in the world donny, the English players are only worth money to the English clubs, far too much money in the Premiership. Its very rare any of the top foreign sides come courting our players. If the England side is rated the second most valuable in the tournament then a few of the other countries must be very undervalued!
Report CLYDEBANK29 June 11, 2018 7:53 PM BST
Its an age thing and a PL thing.  The Germans are sniffing around hence Sancho to Dortmund and Lookman to Leipzig.  Think it was the Dortmund coach who said Engfland have the best young players in the world at the moment.   Monchengladbach are allegedly after Rhian Brewster
Report themover June 11, 2018 8:03 PM BST
Sancho left City because he wasn't guaranteed playing time in a new contract...he's since made 15 appearances, 3 of which were for Dortmund's reserves Crazy
Report mesmerised June 11, 2018 8:04 PM BST
Juventus want out of contract Jack Wilshere. The Balon D'or is ON.
Report CLYDEBANK29 June 11, 2018 8:12 PM BST
Sancho has just turned 18.  Probably playing at a higher level than any other player at the U-17 WC at the moment.
Report Charlton2005 June 11, 2018 9:36 PM BST
squad value and performance are less correlated than manager ability and performance
Report ian merseyside June 12, 2018 2:23 PM BST
I suppose this is more to do with the TV money received by Premier League clubs distorting the transfer market than the "real value" of the players.  You could blame Sky/BT Sport for this but if viewers are prepared to pay the high subscriptions then this is the inevitable result.  Having said that I don't understand why Bundesliga and La Liga broadcast deals should be so much lower than the Premier League.
Report asparagus June 12, 2018 2:23 PM BST
Kane 160m
Alli 100m
Sterling 100m
Rashford 70m
Walker 70m
Dier 50m
Stones 50m
Rose 40m
Alexander Arnold 40m
Lingard 40m
Pickford 40m

it does soon add up though you'd be struggling to get to 1.4 billion
Report Tiger Tiger June 12, 2018 4:34 PM BST
As usual we overate our players, no one outside the Premier League wants them, big wages and big fees don't make them good players.


You wouldnt get £30m for Stones even in todays market, City paid way over the top for him, full of mistakes.
Ali - £60m at best, gone backwards this season, but who would pay £100M for him?
Sterling £60m at best, never done it on the international stage - who would pay £1000m for him?
Walker £35m, again City paid way over the top for him.
Rashford £40m tops.
Dier £25m tops, he's not exactly good.
Rose £25M, too many injuries.
Lingard £30m
Alexander Arnold at this stage of his career? £35m
Pickford, Everton would be lucky to get their money back at £30m

Cahill and Jones wouldnt fetch a great lot these days, both past their best, Ashley Young not worth a lot at his age, Henderson cant cut it on the international scene, not a single goal yet.
Report asparagus June 12, 2018 5:30 PM BST
Tiger, you are underestimating the market and it's largely irrelevant what you'd get outside of the Prem as that's where the most money is. You're definitely wrong about your pricing too. All and Sterling would be massively in demand for starters. Walker had his best ever seen so no chance his value has gone down.
Report Tiger Tiger June 12, 2018 5:31 PM BST
Aye asparagus I'm probably underestimating the market. I just think we always overate our English born players.
Report clacherholiday2 June 12, 2018 10:39 PM BST
the valuations not totally off, theyd plummet for most of these if the rules on having x number of home grown players in a squad was scraped
Report Live4 June 13, 2018 7:42 PM BST
It's not surprising.  The entire England squad play for Premier League teams who are notorious throughout world football for paying vastly over the odds for mediocre players with their monopoly money.
Report Charlton2005 June 13, 2018 8:35 PM BST
Having said that I don't understand why Bundesliga and La Liga broadcast deals should be so much lower than the Premier League.

ask a random fan in Thailand what they would pay to watch, Liverpool or TSG 1899 Hoffenheim.
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