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Not long before transfer window opens and although Sir Alex Ferguson says he is not a big fan of the January opportunity, he has been known to come up with the odd surprise!

Newspapers say Pepe Reina is a target. True he is unsettled at United but would he move to United knowing the "rumpus" that caused. Also United have earmarked young Anders Lindergaard as the long time successor to Van Der Sar but Reina much better at the moment.

The other name that keeps getting mentioned at Old Trafford is the Chilean winger Alexis Sanchez. I heard that Inter were going to sign him but he is waiting to see if United move for him first. Not sure about truth in this because Antonio Valencia is making a quicker recovery than first thought and I would have thought Sir Alex might be prioritising  a centre half and midfielder but who knows.

Anderson is starting to show a lot more of his undoubted ability but the defence is key for United if they want another title. Sunderland were not great today but United's defence was absolutely solid, unlike much of this season. Anyway we will find out a bit more at Birmingham on Tuesday as they will be tested a lot more by a fresh side with plenty of time to prepare.

Anyway good luck to fans at all clubs in this festive period. It could go a long way to deciding your season.

For United fans looking for a 19th title-  BELIEVE
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Report olddesperado September 22, 2016 10:00 PM BST
Seems the more they are paid the worse they perform.
Other than de gea all the better more consistent players earn under 100 k
Report olddesperado September 22, 2016 10:02 PM BST
OK off to bed
Report anxious September 22, 2016 10:06 PM BST
260 for Wayne and 20 for Marcus Plain
Report rommel September 22, 2016 10:12 PM BST
no wonder they dont drop him,certain bent logic in the notion,were paying him a kings ransom every week,c*** must be good
Report anxious September 22, 2016 10:16 PM BST
I read recently  that wayne rooneys total worth in money made from football etc was 82 million Shocked
Report anxious September 22, 2016 10:17 PM BST
Not bad for a scally from the back streets of Mersey Port.
Report rommel September 22, 2016 10:57 PM BST

Sep 22, 2016 -- 10:16PM, anxious wrote:


I read recently  that wayne rooneys total worth in money made from football etc was 82 million


was that one of your tattoos?

Report OnePercenter September 23, 2016 7:11 AM BST
Ignore rommel and he will go away.
Report rommel September 23, 2016 7:18 AM BST
rollllllllllllllllllll artttttttttt the barrelllllllllllllllllll,reese und sheeeeeeeeeen
Report rommel September 23, 2016 7:18 AM BST
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Report OnePercenter September 23, 2016 7:38 AM BST
He's ill.
Report spyker September 23, 2016 9:25 AM BST
Not bad for a scally from the back streets of Mersey Port.

I'm sure Wayne and his entire family are very grateful to the supporters (and the occasional resident) of Manchester for keeping him in the lifestyle to which he has become accustomed......
Report rommel September 23, 2016 10:13 AM BST

Sep 22, 2016 -- 10:16PM, anxious wrote:


I read recently  that wayne rooneys total worth in money made from football etc was 82 million


remiss of you not to include his work for nasa

Report layingisthewayforward September 23, 2016 6:06 PM BST
Back to football, is Rashford gonna start tomorrow ?  Ta
Report grumpyjim September 23, 2016 6:41 PM BST
loved by all around him managers trainers staff .. only one fly in problem division ......... SAF  ........ wanted him gone .. ?
Leicester be a real tough nut to crack    they play with passion and get stuck in .. they BELIEVE IN THEMSELVES ..??..
JOSE WATCHED FOR months before he got the Gig .. and still not got best   ELEVEN ON THE PARK YET ..?
Report rommel September 23, 2016 6:55 PM BST
jim,all the naysayers who didnt fancy jm 3 years ago.bc saf etc...you think theyre not whispering even now....i know its early,realllllllll early-but the seeds of his earlier destruction are there-even now theyre there
Report anxious September 23, 2016 7:00 PM BST
Rommel its 27 Years since Mersey Port were Champions of England this should worry more than what goes on at Old Trafford
Report rommel September 23, 2016 7:01 PM BST
...further to that,the scales have fallen from the men of the press' eyes,he aint the special one anymore-and mugs like us cant begin to imagine the pressure  of a hostile press
Report rommel September 23, 2016 7:02 PM BST
he's said 27 again,bravo young sir,is that your new tattoo?
Report anxious September 23, 2016 7:06 PM BST
Its 20 Times and 27 Years LaughHappy
Report the_don September 23, 2016 7:09 PM BST
I'd have thought we'd go with a 433 tomorrow as we've started the last 3 games like that. Pogba as an attacking midfielder with two behind him would make sense.

Can't see Rooney being picked as striker ahead of Ibrahimovic so he'll probably be shoehorned into one of the wide attacking positions. 2 of Rashford, Mikhitaryan, Depay or Young would be a better choice.
Report anxious September 23, 2016 7:12 PM BST
Tough game tomorrow Leicester will be right up for it , if we are not much improved we will lose again
Report rommel September 23, 2016 7:12 PM BST
don this is the specail one,he dont listen to little atom splitters like you
Report rommel September 23, 2016 7:14 PM BST
leic up for it?you mean more than usual?
Report anxious September 23, 2016 7:24 PM BST
Hull will be up for it
Report rommel September 23, 2016 7:27 PM BST
just imagine the wails and moans and grief from outta choker if leicester do yous up zee a***
Report rommel September 23, 2016 7:31 PM BST

Sep 23, 2016 -- 7:06PM, anxious wrote:


Its 20 Times and 27 Years


the former isnt moving ooooooooooooo no

Report OnePercenter September 23, 2016 7:34 PM BST
Back to football, is Rashford gonna start tomorrow ?  Ta

The lad is making it very difficult for Jose not to pick him so you'd hope so wouldn't you.

I heard Michael Owen on the radio talking about when he burst into the Liverpool team. He said he'd been used to scoring bucket loads of goals all his young life so he wasn't in the least surprised or overawed when he started scoring for the first team. He said Rashford will have done the same and that there was no reason to hold him back.

I think with his pace and trickery and his ability of getting into the right place at the right time he should be playing 9 or 10 and United should be building the team around him.
Report olddesperado September 23, 2016 10:04 PM BST
I think Marcus has to start tomorrow,
Jose cant keep ignoring what he brings us on the pitch.

I do think he shouldnt play every game but be eased in and start about 30/35 games over the season.

Certain games will suit him better and i wouldnt drag him all over europe either but with no pace tomorrow without Martial he has to start.
Report anxious September 23, 2016 10:06 PM BST
Yes hopefully Carrick to play as well
Report olddesperado September 23, 2016 10:14 PM BST
Zlatan will also start up front and the midfield will be Fellani , Pogba and one of Herrera or Carrick,   Herrera if i had to guess.

That leaves one place between about 5 others depending on the injuries.

I honestly dont know if he will drop Rooney or not, 

Before the season started i would have said it was a no brainer but im not sure he has the bottle now tbh.
Report anxious September 23, 2016 10:16 PM BST
Leicester being backed at 4s United drifting like a barge.
Report rommel September 23, 2016 10:20 PM BST
hope jose doesnt read this forum....
Report olddesperado September 23, 2016 10:22 PM BST
Personaly anxious i think leicesters running power would make carrick dizzy.

He was getting exposed against fast teams 3 years ago ,

35 now,  how many top teams have 35 year olds across europe outside of Italy ?
Report rommel September 23, 2016 10:23 PM BST

Sep 23, 2016 -- 10:14PM, olddesperado wrote:


Zlatan will also start up front and the midfield will be Fellani , Pogba and one of Herrera or Carrick,   Herrera if i had to guess.That leaves one place between about 5 others depending on the injuries.I honestly dont know if he will drop Rooney or not,  Before the season started i would have said it was a no brainer but im not sure he has the bottle now tbh.


WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DONT F********G KNOW,old you are our touchstone..... our polaris

Report anxious September 23, 2016 10:25 PM BST
OD I take your point but Carrick is still our best passer of the ball, Paul Scholes came back at 37 and he was better than the other fools we had then.
Report olddesperado September 23, 2016 10:27 PM BST
At the risk of him breaking my face i hope he does read it.
Report olddesperado September 23, 2016 10:29 PM BST
Ye but anxious despite what the chant says carrick aint no scholes.
Report rommel September 23, 2016 10:32 PM BST

Sep 23, 2016 -- 10:29PM, olddesperado wrote:


Ye but anxious despite what the chant says carrick aint no scholes.


SOLOMON eatcha fckn heart out

Report olddesperado September 23, 2016 10:33 PM BST
I think the forum could be about to be an ex forum,

Acting up on me and dissapeared from the tool bar on home page.

Goodbye all if this is the end.  Sad
Report anxious September 23, 2016 10:33 PM BST
I agree OD but hes better than fellani and schnerderlin ffs
Report anxious September 23, 2016 10:36 PM BST
If it were possible id have Roy Keane and Fergus back and PTB wherever he is Cry
Report olddesperado September 23, 2016 10:40 PM BST
Keane and fergus yes, Butcher might slow us down more than rooney,

suppose we could stick a kebab at either end maybe,
Report rommel September 23, 2016 10:41 PM BST
anx is pining....
Report rommel September 23, 2016 10:42 PM BST
he's probably got a norwegian blue
Report olddesperado September 23, 2016 10:43 PM BST
I,d say he,d beat rashford in a sprint for a kebab,

The danger could be Rooney passing them both...
Report anxious September 23, 2016 10:44 PM BST
Now now Rommel lets not go there
Report anxious September 23, 2016 10:46 PM BST
Norway yes you are my solskaeer my only solskaeer
Report anxious September 23, 2016 10:47 PM BST
Late in May in 1999
Ole scored a goal injury time
What a feeling What a night Excited
Report OnePercenter September 24, 2016 7:37 AM BST
From what Jose said yesterday I'd say Rooney will almost certainly be left on the bench.
Report rommel September 24, 2016 7:46 AM BST
he'll confound and befuddle  you again
Report the_don September 24, 2016 11:56 AM BST
Rooney on the bench. Martial, Mikhitaryan and Shaw must be injured as they're not in the squad.

Hopefully Mata will be able to play centrally rather than out wide, though I'd have preferred an extra midfielder and Pogba further forward.
Report olddesperado September 24, 2016 1:23 PM BST
The game is so much easier when you have 11 players contributing.
Report olddesperado September 24, 2016 1:24 PM BST
The passing and movement so much slicker without 5 touch fatboy.
Report olddesperado September 24, 2016 1:25 PM BST
The rightback position still a problem,
Report olddesperado September 24, 2016 1:27 PM BST
Herrera outstanding but leicester so badly miss Kante its unreal.

It was like losing two players he gave them so much.
Report olddesperado September 24, 2016 1:34 PM BST
Excellent delivery from corners as well,  even that fatboy was ruining.
Report One footed pony September 24, 2016 1:54 PM BST
Waynes learning that he has a price tag, like Beckham.



Yep next Plain
Report olddesperado September 24, 2016 2:01 PM BST
Did van ghoul give the HT talk ?

Valencia really is a poor player,  so many attacks break down once its delivered out to him, cant defend for sh1t either.
Report olddesperado September 24, 2016 2:30 PM BST
Im dissapointed we didnt keep the foot to the floor.

A big win would have boosted confidence and settled players.

Herrera went out of it second half and these players jose is not sure about really need to keep the intensity for 95 mins to convince him.

Blind was my MOM.
Report OnePercenter September 24, 2016 2:37 PM BST
United were very lucky today. The first goal against the run of play, Leicester collapsed another 2 goals from corners.

Doesn't quite balance the luck books though. Bravo should have been sent off the other week and we should have won the City game and  Watford's first goal was an obvious foul on Martial who is still out injured.

But a win is a win so that will give the players confidence and the decision to drop Rooney to the bench has been made.

Zorya at home next then & Stoke at home. We should comfortably win both those games. Hopefully.
Report the_don September 24, 2016 2:37 PM BST
Leicester were on top until the 1st goal and then we produce a ruthless 20 minutes for a change. As someone once said 'it's a funny old game'.

Still plenty of work to do as Leicester caused us a few problems 1st half and 2nd.
Report olddesperado September 24, 2016 7:00 PM BST
A good day with us getting back on track.

Good to hear jose say the first half was down to improved intensity and movement.
He must then surely realize why.

Some very good performances,  with Bailly, Blind, Herrera ,  Pogba,, Marcus , Zlat and Mata in patches standing out.

After a few surprising performances at the start of the season Valencia is back to his ponderous turning back in or hitting the nearest defender self and needs to be replaced asap.
He was destroyed defensively today as well.
Report 11kv September 24, 2016 7:07 PM BST
Peter will have enjoyed that.
Report olddesperado September 24, 2016 7:13 PM BST
Before today we were bottom of the league for distance covered just below sunderland.

Top were the two teams at the top of the league , city and spurs.

Today without fatboy we out ran leicester who are near the top.

I find this interesting as rooney is very hard working in fairness and covers a lot of ground so im putting it down to him taking ages to get the ball under control and general slowness in possession that allows defenders to get in position and leave no room for our runners to run into.

When was the last time we ran at teams and had so much space to run into.
We usually have 10/11 in front of us when we attack.

That can only be due to the speed we moved it forward today.
Report olddesperado September 24, 2016 7:14 PM BST
Hope so 11kv
Report anxious September 24, 2016 7:37 PM BST
Very good win today played a lot better also backed Brave Anna at 25s Happy
Report olddesperado September 24, 2016 7:41 PM BST
well done anx,

Since 1p was given peters captains role im taking upon myself to give you his tipping job.
Report rommel September 24, 2016 7:51 PM BST

Sep 24, 2016 -- 7:37PM, anxious wrote:


Very good win today played a lot better also backed Brave Anna at 25s


FACE IT ANX YOU'RE A WINNER,bit like bbc,he was drippping success

Report olddesperado September 24, 2016 7:55 PM BST
I must have hit a nerve,

Wheres your Fergie avatar gone ?
Report rommel September 24, 2016 7:56 PM BST
he's old news now
Report anxious September 24, 2016 7:57 PM BST
Crolla 4-5 Linares 6-4 close fight hope Anthony wins but linares being backed
Report anxious September 24, 2016 7:58 PM BST
Yes Rommel but im not as rich and as successful with fillies as beeb
Report rommel September 24, 2016 8:00 PM BST
well fantasists are never gonna tell you theyre a skint loser are they
Report olddesperado September 24, 2016 8:00 PM BST
FFS anx thats not a tip.

Nail your colours to the mast man.

You dont even have to be succsessfull to keep alive the tipping legend that was PTB.
Report anxious September 24, 2016 8:06 PM BST
Crolla to win,Manchesters finest
Report rommel September 24, 2016 8:07 PM BST
its all arranged,crolla to do a young in the 5th
Report olddesperado September 24, 2016 8:08 PM BST
Ok then,

Looks a bit like gary nev doesnt he ?
Report olddesperado September 24, 2016 8:10 PM BST
So long as he doesnt do a suarez and go down with no one near him,
Report rommel September 24, 2016 8:11 PM BST
gnasher was to smart for that
Report olddesperado September 24, 2016 8:15 PM BST
Er ..  no he wasnt
Report rommel September 24, 2016 8:19 PM BST
thing is he didnt need to do any of it did he,supreme player
Report olddesperado September 24, 2016 8:20 PM BST
Its not often but Ye i agree with you on that,
Report olddesperado September 24, 2016 8:22 PM BST
Heard someone on telly say recently not many players could go to Barcelona and improve them but he did just that.
Report rommel September 24, 2016 8:25 PM BST
he's been sensational for barca,his invention...from any angle,nearly always on target,amazing player
Report anxious September 24, 2016 8:34 PM BST
Scouse Dracula Lucifer
Report rommel September 24, 2016 8:37 PM BST
had to have some on linares,just felt right
Report rommel September 24, 2016 8:37 PM BST
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Report rommel September 24, 2016 8:39 PM BST
first thing he said when he get off the plane  "mancs dont like it up 'em"
Report olddesperado September 24, 2016 9:32 PM BST
Fatboy in taping up Crolla,s hands,

Hope he has a better jaw than wazza,  Grin
Report olddesperado September 24, 2016 11:38 PM BST
Well done anx,

Seamless move into the butchers shoes, Devil
Report jedi sophie September 24, 2016 11:42 PM BST
OH DEAR!!!
Report anxious September 25, 2016 12:00 AM BST
Sad
Report Ozymandius September 25, 2016 7:37 AM BST
No surprise to see us score 3 from corners now that Blind is back taking them.
Report anxious September 25, 2016 6:53 PM BST
Liked the balance of the team yesterday , but some big games coming up
ZORYA h, Stoke h, Mersey Port a 17th oct, Fenerbache h 20th, oct Chelsea a 23 oct , city 26th h lc
Report rommel September 25, 2016 7:24 PM BST
i can hear the puckering......clenchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....relaxxxxxxxx

we aint no leicester,think on oh eastern one
Report anxious September 25, 2016 7:55 PM BST
No your right Rommel most of them other teams have won the title recently laa
Report rommel September 25, 2016 8:30 PM BST
youre about as cough cough ....sharp as bbc
Report rommel September 25, 2016 8:33 PM BST
and 4 years aint really recent for you lot,so there,you're an also-ran
Report OnePercenter September 26, 2016 8:27 PM BST
The Liverpool match will be difficult after the international break. Let's hope Jose uses it as a good excuse to keep Rooney on the bench.
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