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peter the butcher
27 Dec 10 00:11
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Not long before transfer window opens and although Sir Alex Ferguson says he is not a big fan of the January opportunity, he has been known to come up with the odd surprise!

Newspapers say Pepe Reina is a target. True he is unsettled at United but would he move to United knowing the "rumpus" that caused. Also United have earmarked young Anders Lindergaard as the long time successor to Van Der Sar but Reina much better at the moment.

The other name that keeps getting mentioned at Old Trafford is the Chilean winger Alexis Sanchez. I heard that Inter were going to sign him but he is waiting to see if United move for him first. Not sure about truth in this because Antonio Valencia is making a quicker recovery than first thought and I would have thought Sir Alex might be prioritising  a centre half and midfielder but who knows.

Anderson is starting to show a lot more of his undoubted ability but the defence is key for United if they want another title. Sunderland were not great today but United's defence was absolutely solid, unlike much of this season. Anyway we will find out a bit more at Birmingham on Tuesday as they will be tested a lot more by a fresh side with plenty of time to prepare.

Anyway good luck to fans at all clubs in this festive period. It could go a long way to deciding your season.

For United fans looking for a 19th title-  BELIEVE
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By:
MONEY TREE
When: 27 Dec 10 00:14
re type that in the correct way.
By:
peter the butcher
When: 27 Dec 10 00:15
What, all of it Money Tree?
By:
MONEY TREE
When: 27 Dec 10 00:16
no just the mistakes nut job LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
MONEY TREE
When: 27 Dec 10 00:18
well the mistakr that stopped me reading more.

spell it wrong no problem but a  mistake as bad as yoiurs is terribly/
By:
peter the butcher
When: 27 Dec 10 00:27
Its Boxing day 2010 mate and I am sitting here not daring to believe that United are top of the league despite not playing that well. Obviously there has been the odd game and patches here and there but still to really find their stride.

I never thought I would live to see United catch Liverpool up in terms of the number of titles, never mind surpass them. To think that could happen in my lifetime is mind numbing.

I have followed United all over the world for over 35 years and most of my youth was spent watching the great Liverpool teams winning European Cups and League titles and it hurt very much. They produced some great teams to be fair. I just cannot believe how quickly we seem to levelled it on 18 titles each so just enjoying this Christmas knowing United have a chance to get number 19 in May 2011. I know it will not be easy but if United can stay clear of injuries and just go up a notch.........
By:
modk
When: 27 Dec 10 00:34
thank god roman came to the premiership or you would be on 22 now
By:
peter the butcher
When: 27 Dec 10 00:40
lol modk, when you think back to last season and one or two other years when United "imploded" it could have been even more than that. For all the winning years I can still remember the journey out of Upton Park that year Andy Cole missed a few and Blackburn ended up winning the title despite losing at Anfield. There have been other years but that one still hurts the most.
By:
middles-for-dough
When: 27 Dec 10 01:47
i like your attitude peter

united are playing well, not the most devastating attacking football of prior teams but very solid, scoring goals and not losing.

let the rest slag us off as its just bitterness and jealousy especially from the fans of stockports true team who will be fking seething that all that cash spent has still won fk all and we are still top of the tree even when not playing well.

all i want is 19 titles.. fk the rest including the champs league. to be the most successful team in england domestically over them is more important.
By:
peter the butcher
When: 27 Dec 10 01:57
middles-for dough, I could not agree more. Lots of my mates including United fans are stunned when I say the league title is more important than any of the other trophies. I swear I would choose the league title over the champions League if somebody said "pick one only".

However my Liverpool mates have stopped ribbing me about league title and point out their five European Cups (or equivalent). As I keep saying to them, it may not be long before they are relying on the number of league cups they have won!!!!
By:
middles-for-dough
When: 27 Dec 10 01:59
the fact is that teams like liverpool win the champs league when they finish 5th etc

and fans of clubs like liverpool rattle on about how they were ranked number 1 in europe when they were nowhere domestically.

means nothing to me really. if we win it.. all well and good. i dont get gutted when we get knocked out like i do when i know the league has gone.. maybe its all those years not winning it.
By:
Ashley_Young
When: 27 Dec 10 02:05
merry xmas from steve bruce
By:
middles-for-dough
When: 27 Dec 10 02:06
i see villa lost again..

so fk off back to bed you sad cnt
By:
peter the butcher
When: 27 Dec 10 02:09
Yep, I got sick of watching Liverpool win all those title whilst we had to make do with the odd FA Cup here and there. Even that great night when we beat Barcelona in the cup winners cup final or denying Liverpool the treble in the Fa Cup final in 1977 was not as good a feeling as that first league title with Robson and Bruce holding the trophy.

Funny to be talking about Steve Bruce after today's match. He was one of the most underrated players in English football and how he was never capped for England was a disgrace.
By:
peter the butcher
When: 27 Dec 10 02:15
Hey Ashley, I know people go on about Steve Bruce and his teams when they play United etc etc. No one mentions the performance his team put in last season at Old Trafford when United scraped a point in last minute. Arguably lost United the title did that result.

Also this season United were well outplayed at Sunderland and came away with a lucky point. So its not only a cheap shot but not fair on Steve Bruce either.
By:
middles-for-dough
When: 27 Dec 10 02:15
it is when you see clod hoppers like carragher and upson getting a shirt these days..

bruce and pallister could both have been regulars for england. suppose it saved em for united though
By:
peter the butcher
When: 27 Dec 10 02:21
Did you know that Bobby Robson apologised to Steve Bruce in front of the whole United team when they played in a testimonial match. He said he had been wrong not to cap Bruce when he was England manager and had regretted it for a long time after he had relinquished the England post.
By:
middles-for-dough
When: 27 Dec 10 02:42
im not surprised sir bobby did that if its true..
By:
peter the butcher
When: 27 Dec 10 02:45
Sir Alex told the story so you would assume it was true. Good bloke Sir Bobby Robson.
By:
peter the butcher
When: 27 Dec 10 13:12
Just watched yesterdays match against Sunderland on TV and it doesn't do justice to Anderson's performance. He was absolutely everywhere and he genuinely could have had three or four goals. Most were blocked or unlucky whereas he previously would finish very weakly.
Bodes well for the future because he has not shown great consistency in the past or that level of performance.
By:
peter the butcher
When: 27 Dec 10 19:17
Arsenal v Chelsea, not sure who I want to win. You would think Arsenal will get knocked out of Champions League by Barcelona so will be able to concentrate on Premiership afterwards so don't want them too close to the top. Chelsea will still be strong towards the backend of the season so any points dropped by them are gratefully received. Can both teams lose please.

Worse scenario is City beating Villa tomorrow in 3pm kick off and going top. Who would have thought that possible so close to the new year?!!

Arsenal v Chelsea 1-1 please

City v Villa 1-2 please
By:
nineiron
When: 27 Dec 10 19:34
If the results go like that the firms will go 1-2 if Utd can beat Birmingham
By:
degsy42
When: 27 Dec 10 19:43
stick to butchering
By:
peter the butcher
When: 27 Dec 10 19:44
If Chelsea draw, City win but United win at Birmingham I reckon United will go lot shorter anyway. Don't know if the firms are happy to lay City all day long.
By:
nineiron
When: 27 Dec 10 19:45
When does pddyy powweerr pay out ?
By:
peter the butcher
When: 27 Dec 10 22:24
United can really put the squeeze on with a win at Birmingham, doesn't have to be pretty, just get 3 points.
By:
peter the butcher
When: 29 Dec 10 23:44
Well it wasn't pretty and United didn't get 3 points either. Obviously a mistake from the officials for the Brum goal but these things happen and United should have wrapped it up before then.

Not sure what to make of the other results. Arsenal drawing tonight will have hurt them as much as it did United at Birmingham. Chelsea only won 1-0 and could even have lost but in truth they deserved to win and could have had a few in the end.

Still think its between the three but City still there and could last the course if Baliotelli and/or Tevez don't "kick up" again. Spurs keep winning and playing good stuff but surely it will all catch up with "Arry".

Its the Hawthorns next and despite all the hammerings we have given them since, I can only think of the time they beat us 4-0 and Gerry Daly missed a penalty which was unheard of!!! i think it was 1975 or 1976. The scenes after the match were brutal and sickening.
By:
middles-for-dough
When: 29 Dec 10 23:45
i think it cuold be a great end to the season mate for whoever wins it.. i dont think any of the top teams will go unbeaten from now til the end of the season although if we do then it could be good lol
By:
peter the butcher
When: 29 Dec 10 23:54
It would be great middles, if only to stop Arsenal fans from always having the "invincables" title thrown at us. Agree though it is going to be a fantastic end to the season.
By:
peter the butcher
When: 30 Dec 10 00:00
Right at the backend of the season United have Arsenal away and Chelsea at home and I am praying that one of those two team is out of it by then otherwise it could be like the pivotal Chelsea loss at home last season all over again.
By:
Inspired
When: 30 Dec 10 00:00
What a boring thread.
By:
peter the butcher
When: 30 Dec 10 00:05
Sorry Inspired mate, it wasn't meant to be boring or exciting, just a view on the season as I am sitting here with plenty of time on my hands. Who do you follow?
By:
middles-for-dough
When: 30 Dec 10 00:06
i just think it will be an exciting end this year pete.. especially for whoever wins it.. :)
By:
Over2.5
When: 30 Dec 10 10:54
peter the butcher.. great thread, remember chatting to you on here one night about all things united and mostly about king eric. Still reeling from that brum equaliser being allowed the other night shocking by the officials, anderson really being fastracked now by fergie and looks to be paying off he showing reals signs of improvement. Think chelsea and arsenal will falter this season, CITY yes CITY worry me.. just heard there signing dzeko thought this is one of the areas they were short great signing for them if true and would have loved united to sign him. West brom next peter need another 3 points
By:
atom80
When: 30 Dec 10 10:57
Would have been chuffed with 7 points over these 3 games... So only a win @ Brom will be sufficient.
By:
Over2.5
When: 30 Dec 10 11:05
atom80 another die hard.. great to see you back mate, we really should keep this thread going ??
By:
atom80
When: 30 Dec 10 11:23
I "try" not to discuss United on here as there are a lot of idiots about... It makes it hard to get a decent conversation/debate going..

Only a few speak sense. We both know who they are [;)]
By:
peter the butcher
When: 30 Dec 10 11:49
Over2.5, How's it going mate? yes I remember us reminiscing about the old days and thats why we don't take anything for granted. We went through what Liverpool are experiencing now and thats why I don't believe in badmouthing other clubs just for the sake of it. can you remember that 4-0 stuffing we got at the Hawthorns in the seventies? I only remember cos United took around 22,000 fans that day(as we did most away matches that had biggish grounds) and Gerry Daly missed a penalty.(5ft8, under weight, Gerry Daly's fu***ng great etc)

atom80, I would agree with you entirely, 7 points over this period would be excellent so we must get a win at West Brom. It sets us up nicely. As i said before I really would like some sort of a buffer before we played Arsenal and Chelsea in the last few weeks of the season.
By:
peter the butcher
When: 30 Dec 10 11:53
Over2.5, I forgot to say that I also heard City had virtually agreed to sign Dzeko for around 30m and if that is right he could be an inspirational addition. He is a superb player and I always believed United were in prime position because that is where he wanted to go.

On the other hand it could be an Tino Asprilla moment as well for City!!!
By:
Over2.5
When: 30 Dec 10 12:02
Morning peter...im a bit younger than you peter but interesting hearing your views from that early on, but you are correct are badmouthing other clubs for the sake of it but liverpool as a club doesn,t annoy me as such its the fickle fans ?? 90% of them havent a notion imo mate.. i cant see dzeko failing to be an inspiration for city hes a proper goalscorer and exactly what they need. They dropped points against everton, fulham, brum etc are nagging me something serious but just have to look on the positive side we have been no where near our best and "well have a great chance"(as fergie would say)lol
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