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crooser
09 Jul 17 09:19
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Should sort the men from the boys and a well-deserved rest day to follow.
After a quiet day yesterday, Cummings could go well for me.
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Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 1:20 PM BST
Sorry -- I meant ALM not FDJ. Blush
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 1:21 PM BST
ALM are the big aggressive boys today...
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 1:28 PM BST
It was just a test, but now SKY know what to expect for the final climb off the back of the Mont du Chat. They're setting the pace on the front now whilst climbing too, suggests they are on good sensations with Bardet, and they have the two satellite riders up front. Wow! This could be the French Revolution if it comes off!
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 1:33 PM BST
G -- out!
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 1:39 PM BST
ALM still working on the front of the GC group, they are setting a stronger pace than SKY did before, gap inching down as a result. In favour of a stalemate, presently -- too close to call!
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 1:41 PM BST
Everything happening...
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 1:43 PM BST
Surprised that Pentane has cracked so badly here, he beat Majka in that stage 5 into Culoz last year.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 1:44 PM BST
*Pantano...
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 1:46 PM BST
Benoot a GC development rider indeed, this is all experience for him, very good plan by LTS to have put this into effect today. Will be very interesting to see how he goes.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 1:47 PM BST
Gap somewhat stable at 6mins...
Report casemoney July 9, 2017 1:55 PM BST
G Cry
Report sofiakenny July 9, 2017 1:59 PM BST
loving this  Roglic or Bardet please.Excited
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:00 PM BST
The breakaway is back together on the descent as expected -- five riders are better than two -- they'll need to work together on the flat valley road if they want any chance of stage victory.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:03 PM BST
Pinot has zero chance, stay with yr green SK, this is a very fluid stage, things will happen and change probably about twenty times still...
Report casemoney July 9, 2017 2:04 PM BST
What happened to Pinaut Shocked
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:05 PM BST
Will be interesting to see if Vuillermoz works with these guys on the flats, that will reveal something about ALM plans...
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:06 PM BST
Weather radar looking good for no rain for the riders, but not a certainty, yet.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:07 PM BST
Front groups coming together -- let's see if they begin to combine nicely.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:08 PM BST
Gap down to 5mins -- it's with the GC peloton I think, especially if SKY blow it up!
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:14 PM BST
Break not working, gap under 4mins imminently, Kwiatkowski busting it out -- it's going with the GC peloton for the win.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:16 PM BST
Moreover, I cannot believe that SKY will ride tempo on the Mont du Chat, they'll want to give the GC rivals a hard ride and see where they are. Tough to call still, but it is going with the GC, I think.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:20 PM BST
LOL> Quintana has been camped behind his MOV car for the past 5kms...
Report casemoney July 9, 2017 2:23 PM BST
Small ew Nairo in running
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:25 PM BST
Yep, lack of organisation in the breakaway, too much talking, riders missing terms, some not participating in the case of ALM...meanwhile Kwiatkowski is on a training ride at the head of the SKY train. The only thing that will save the break is if SKY don't motor, and when was the last time they didn't on such an important climb, especially? Therefore I think it is with the GC peloton.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:27 PM BST
Hope you got a good price case -- he isn't the fastest in a sprint to the line.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:31 PM BST
Gallopin and Vuillermoz have used the gap they got for sticking in with SUN and Bling for Green.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:33 PM BST
That Bakelants not Vuillermoz for ALM -- my apologies. Blush
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:44 PM BST
Gap somewhat stable at 3:20, but climb not yet begun and SKY look imposing, in a way will want to wrestle back some control from ALM. Still with the GC I think. Fuglesang is there after the selections, he'll get over the climb I think, can descend well and has a decent kick in a sprint.

I don't agree with the market that Froome attacks on the descent and wins, he'll require allies or teammates for that, and then he will require strong kick in the sprint, I think. That's a big ask, but I'm not game to lay him as he is a champion. Just don't agree with the price, he shouldn't be a favourite, this isn't a summit finish -- he'll require a sprint to win and he isn't the best in that, actually.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:47 PM BST
Froome is very liquid at 5/1 to back and lay, with 43kms remaining and the gap at 3:20 -- I think that is a joke for the record!
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:49 PM BST
Fuglsang is available at 30s and I think he'll trade much lower if he can make the selection on the climb. Whether he can make the selection depends on how hard SKY go and if there plan is to just ease off so that Froome is left with teammates on the descent and flats.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:52 PM BST
Bling cracks, but he gave it a good go for Green and helped Barguil plenty. Very good ride for a highly overrated rider.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:55 PM BST
A couple of kms from the start of the climb for Gallopin and Bakelants.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:56 PM BST
They're suffering but they're doing a good job...
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:58 PM BST
Still with the GC, I think. Still too hard to call, though.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 2:59 PM BST
Storm alert!
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:02 PM BST
SKY have lost Kwiatkowski very early, and they don't have G, they are not going to have their own way here, I don't think. So far it can still be described as tempo riding.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:03 PM BST
Climb begins...
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:04 PM BST
Gap 2:30 is very very slim.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:06 PM BST
Bakelants struggling, he'll crack soon, I think.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:07 PM BST
Yep, that was telling Bakelants gone. GC coming fast now, gap coming right down now as predicted.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:12 PM BST
FIREWORKS!
Report Dodgepicker July 9, 2017 3:17 PM BST
cheap move by Aru
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:17 PM BST
Okay, a cease fire on account of gentlemanly behaviour -- nice to see!
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:19 PM BST
Dauphine deja vu...
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:20 PM BST
Barguil is lifting, but I'm not convinced, he'll be riding solo after the descent and will require over a minute, I think...
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:21 PM BST
Remember this ride from Benoot guys, he is developing in front of our eyes, and LTS DS are smart to do this with him.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:23 PM BST
Fuglsang 30s looks good now, but he needs to consolidate by opening the gap toward the summit, then gun the descent which we know he will, and has the motor to hold off the GC men, but it'll be hard, and it could be Aru satellite, but then he'll be trading low enough to cash out! Long way to go, for all that to happen.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:25 PM BST
Fuglsang a real threat for the Yellow here, too. Stage honours and Yellow. All I see is the 30s, though...
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:26 PM BST
Contador cracks -- no surprise!
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:29 PM BST
Proper fireworks!
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:31 PM BST
Bargain struggling...suffering...I don't think he can do this...no way!
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:31 PM BST
Quintana shows his Giro legs -- no surprise!
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:32 PM BST
Fuglesang attack is neutralised, however he just has to stick with Froome, cannot get dropped, come on my son!
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:33 PM BST
Looking okay...for Fuglesang...good boy...
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:34 PM BST
Froome going very deep -- wow!
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:35 PM BST
Impressive, but vulnerable, also!
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:36 PM BST
Fuglesang still in this, 30s looking decent...
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:37 PM BST
Fuglesang leads them over -- good boy! Will have no problem with the descent. Strong on the flats, but how much will he have left for the sprint??
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:37 PM BST
Here we go -- descent time!
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:39 PM BST
Crash!
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:39 PM BST
Porte and Dan Martin have crashed!!
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:40 PM BST
Arghh...
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:40 PM BST
Saying a prayer here now, very sad scene, looks terrible!
Report Dodgepicker July 9, 2017 3:41 PM BST
damn what a crash that was by Porte, hope hes ok
Report Shrewd_dude July 9, 2017 3:41 PM BST
Hope he's okay. That was a terrible one.
Report casemoney July 9, 2017 3:43 PM BST
Day of Doom Cry  Richie dont look good
Report Dodgepicker July 9, 2017 3:44 PM BST
he got totally boxed in and couldnt change his line into the corner
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:50 PM BST
Froome requesting allies by signalling that they combine together -- what a surprise! Shocked
Report casemoney July 9, 2017 3:51 PM BST
Looked like he was going down into the Woods
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:51 PM BST
These two will need to cooperate -- will they, though?
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:52 PM BST
This is that pinch I mentioned earlier, it'll hurt them all!
Report casemoney July 9, 2017 3:53 PM BST
Market big Move Bardet must have gone by Barguil ? Add break on 4
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:54 PM BST
Barguil cracks -- Bardet riding for all the team work, for the home of the ALM team -- this might indeed be a French Revolution...
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:55 PM BST
Froome grip combining now -- this is going to be bloody close to state the obvious!
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 3:58 PM BST
Fuglsang busting himself for Aru -- will have less of a kick in the sprint...
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 4:00 PM BST
Bargain getting the armchair -- he can still win this...
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 4:01 PM BST
Bardot won't surrender the FRA frog!
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 4:03 PM BST
Caught! Bardot caught! Come on -- Fuglesang!
Report Shrewd_dude July 9, 2017 4:06 PM BST
Fugeslang went too early. Unlucky.
Report sofiakenny July 9, 2017 4:08 PM BST
That was amazing!!..I am knackered!
Report sofiakenny July 9, 2017 4:08 PM BST
That was amazing!!..I am knackered!
Report casemoney July 9, 2017 4:10 PM BST
FFS they suspended the Market  I had bet barguil 200 m out at 12 I would have Laid as wasnt sure
Report Pleasegivemeanailedontip July 9, 2017 4:14 PM BST
Fantastic race. Only disappointment is watching everyone work together to Froomes advantage
Report casemoney July 9, 2017 4:15 PM BST
Fckin Joke surely they have to wait for the Photo ???
Report bb66 July 9, 2017 4:17 PM BST
Barguil sprinting for the win after drafting the whole flat was a shame, not as big as the Aru attack, but still unsportingly behaviour
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 4:18 PM BST
Rigo Uran matched for big amounts at 100s and over, on here. 50/1 SP with the Books and pre start.

My apologies for the auto-correct on the spelling of the names -- think you guys knew who was who.

It's been a long road back for the COL rider, he hasn't won at this level in 2 years, that's 2 years, I must admit I never once considered him for the win here because of such a poor strike-rate.

Really wanted Fuglsang, but no complaints when you get a market like this.
Report casemoney July 9, 2017 4:21 PM BST
PMSL he was balls out for 90 % of the race and hardly a Sprinter Surprised he had anything Left  ,I am emailing betfair Fc knows what price he would have traded During the Photo everyone was calling him the Winner ... Need the rules Clarified  As I often Lay bets in running ...
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 4:23 PM BST
Bad luck, case.
Agree Fuglsang went too early.

Thoughts with Porte, as I stated on the GC thread, I thought he couldn't win, and his descending was a weakness, but would never have hoped it would be such a weakness that he would go out like this. Disgusting scenes.

Guys, here in Australia we consider Tasmania and Tasmanians with some playful fun, but Porte -- as you guys have probably seen in the interviews -- is a really humble and nice guy, a good bloke we would say, and am really sad for him, actually.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 4:25 PM BST
Yep, do that case mate. Best wishes for a successful outcome.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 4:27 PM BST
I mean, he was stuck in his biggest gear, Rigo Uran, on that pinch point.
Report marychain1 July 9, 2017 4:31 PM BST
Why the hell did Aru, Uran and Fuglsang assist in the chase of Bardet. They should have let Froome do all the work and then attack him one by one. Absolutely stupid tactics!
Report Pleasegivemeanailedontip July 9, 2017 4:33 PM BST
Yep frustrating
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! July 9, 2017 4:36 PM BST
Probably the greatest TFRace

Only thing missing was pistols at 10 paces

Froome vs Aru

LaughLaughLaugh
Report casemoney July 9, 2017 4:39 PM BST
Amazing Stage  Disapointed Cheers went To Tears  ,But fck knows what Price he would have Traded ,and it needs to be Clarified

For Future races ...Im not a sore Loser but when u go to look at the Odds in a Photo as most would do you, do not expect to

find the market suspended 2 minutes before the result is called Laugh
Report marychain1 July 9, 2017 4:42 PM BST
Sit on Froome's wheel, play brinksmanship, make him chase Bardet. "Sorry Froomey lad, you're in yellow, its up to you to chase him down if you want to keep the jersey". After 10km of having a breather, ping off him and put some distance into him.

Big winner from that stage is Froome. OK, he's lost a domestique but he's lost two rivals and he's even made some bonus seconds.
Report marychain1 July 9, 2017 4:43 PM BST
bb66 you can't criticse Barguil for drafting then sprinting there ffs.

He's been out in the break all day and he's the only one not fighting for GC. He's got absolutely no reason to work at all there.
Report SwingingPick July 9, 2017 4:48 PM BST
Mate, Aru was protecting his 2nd-place by putting Fuglsang to work. Plus, AST move Fuglsang up the order also, after Quintana and Contador failures, and Porte out of the race. How powerful are they with two riders in the top-5, now?

They lost nothing, but gained everything by assisting Froome, who was always going to be reliant on assistance once off the final climb as stated. They are the only team with two riders in the top-5, so don't you think that was worth helping Froome? I think that was very subtle and fine tactics, I would have done the same -- all win no loss!

The alternative would have meant that Bardet closes right down on Aru's time, maybe level-peg, and that just becomes another calculation that AST don't need. No, much better to arrest Bardet while it's available on the road in the live situation, then deal with Froome with two riders in the top-5, knowing where to focus their attention and efforts.

Disagree with you MC, thought that was brilliant tactical acumen by Vino.
Report casemoney July 9, 2017 5:19 PM BST
Another Point maybe ,Regarding Photos,is  how far ITV are actually behind the race live  Grin
Report Pleasegivemeanailedontip July 9, 2017 6:13 PM BST
If everyones already thinking about second place then theyre showing him too much respect. Froome has most to lose by letting Bardet go.
Report bb66 July 9, 2017 6:15 PM BST
Not criticizing Barguil for not working after being chased down, he had achieved what he went for (KOM jersey), but shouldn't sprint for the stage then, it's an unwritten rule as well. Almost no gentlemen there these days, at least Porte and Quintana refused to continue with Aru.
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