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VardonVoo.
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What with safety helmets,  floodlights and even the possible availability of a bright pink ball,
is it perhaps now time to re-define the seemingly arbitrary conditions under which umpires will
decide to end an otherwise exciting match?

Tennis players seem to have no trouble seeing and hitting a ball even as late as 9 o'clock at
night and beyond. Bright green it may be but it is also travelling at two or three times the speed.

The recent West Indies game really ought to have been allowed to continue on rather than being
brought to a halt based on an already questionable decision made days earlier. Disgust!
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Report oitoitoi June 20, 2018 10:06 PM BST
If a tennis ball hits at speed you you might get a bruise.  If a cricket ball hits you at speed it could kill you.  They go off for bad light not because it's hard but because it's dangerous.
Report VardonVoo. June 21, 2018 2:03 AM BST
Well yes, that's the origin of the idea, hence my comment about helmets and floodlights. But surely a fast bowler in broad daylight is more dangerous than a spinner in dimmer light? Besides I've seen matches that played on in much darker conditions than Monday's so the issue is more about the arbitrariness of the decision, rather than the underlying reason.
Report oitoitoi June 21, 2018 10:52 AM BST
Well firstly helmets really aren't as safe as you might think, even if they've improved the risk of concussion is still high, and multiple concussions across a career can have very dangerous long term effects (e.g. hugely increased risk of developing parkinsons).  Changing to a pink ball half way through an innings wouldn't be fair as the pink ball behaves differently.  Yes traditionally they'll let you play on if you bowl spinners, that still happens a bit.  Also bear in mind the image that is broadcast is generally a poor representation of how bright it is at the ground, as it can be brightened or darkened at will using exposure settings on the camera, you often see the adjustment during a match actually, they usually overexpose when it's dark so it appears brighter (easier to watch).  Tbh I think the solution is start test matches earlier, particularly at certain grounds (e.g. newlands) when you know bad light's going to be a problem.
Report wondersobright June 21, 2018 12:06 PM BST
a helmet didn't save phil hughes's life

that was nothing to do with bad light though
Report detraveller June 21, 2018 12:16 PM BST
I think the tennis analogy is wrong because in tennis, both the players need to watch the ball. So both have the same disadvantage. In cricket, the bowler just has to aim at the stumps. Its the batsman who has to watch the ball(At best its the slip fielders who are also at a disadvantage but there are many ways to get the batsman out that don't involve slip fielders). So the batting side is at a great disdvantage due to bad light which is why the ICC brought the consistency of the first meter reading being the standard for the rest of the day. You don't want to be going off for bad light on day 5 with players arguing 'but when we were batting yesterday you allowed the game to go on and it was darker' etc. One of the few things ICC seem to have right imo.

I think after that 2 hr delay, there was still a lunch break(Sorry if i'm wrong). If there was indeed a lunch break, you need to solve that issue, because it often happens that there is a delay in the game and by the team players can restart, its time for the fking lunch.
Report detraveller June 21, 2018 12:16 PM BST
*...standard for the rest of the match
Report VardonVoo. June 24, 2018 1:13 AM BST
If consistency is important between days then why not between matches? It doesn't make sense to take players off in (arguably) playable conditions in one part of the world, supposedly for the sake of safety, yet happily let a game continue into near-darkness somewhere else on the globe.
Report Fatslogger June 24, 2018 11:28 AM BST

Jun 24, 2018 -- 1:13AM, VardonVoo. wrote:


If consistency is important between days then why not between matches? It doesn't make sense to take players off in (arguably) playable conditions in one part of the world, supposedly for the sake of safety, yet happily let a game continue into near-darkness somewhere else on the globe.


Hmm, fair point to an extent, although different grounds can have different seeing conditions and of course, how the pitch is might somewhat affect the view on lighting needed, certainly for safety.

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