Jun 3, 2018 -- 11:06AM, Whisperingdeath wrote:
Did you red out?
Jun 3, 2018 -- 11:56AM, Fatslogger wrote:
Come on Pakistan, bring that draw price in!
Yes thats OK too!
Jun 3, 2018 -- 11:54AM, Fatslogger wrote:
Think that’s very unfair. England best off getting runs at both ends, and I say that with far too much green stuck on the draw. Once you’re 150 on just score fast.
cant score fast back in the pavilion
the last thing eng needed was broad & his flashing blade
Jun 3, 2018 -- 12:00PM, wondersobright wrote:
Jun 3, 2018 -- 11:54AM, Fatslogger wrote:Think that’s very unfair. England best off getting runs at both ends, and I say that with far too much green stuck on the draw. Once you’re 150 on just score fast.cant score fast back in the pavilionthe last thing eng needed was broad & his flashing blade
That’s just hindsight, I’m afraid. If he’d scored a quick 30 (he’d already played himself in), that would have been just fine. He’s a fairly capable hitter. Highly unlikely to affect the result either way though.
Jun 3, 2018 -- 12:44PM, wondersobright wrote:
there are guys out there tom aged young to mid 20s averaging 40+ in f/c cricketbut for some people england don't pick them
should try getting them early before county cricket ruins them
Jun 3, 2018 -- 12:52PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:
Yep Bess and the young Curran look like they could be decent batters. Unlikely Curran will be quick enough to be a front line strike bowler.
They looked confident and assured, moreso than any of the new batters we've tried recently.
Maybe it's an age thing? Tom Curran had the same attitude even tho he's far below test match level quality (at the moment)
Jun 3, 2018 -- 12:24PM, wondersobright wrote:
That’s just hindsight, I’m afraid. how is it hindsight when I've said it before his innings??????????????????????????????????????????????????????If he’d scored a quick 30 (he’d already played himself in), that would have been just fine. He’s a fairly capable hitterhow many times has he done this please?other than that monstrosity of a pitch @ the MCGhe is far more likely to play and miss a few times, hit a couple of shots and then get out for a single figure score in v little timethus not allowing buttler to freely score at the other endso we will agree to disagree on all your points, bar the bit about the result
Bit late to this. I hadn’t actually spotted you’d had the same view in prospect. I still disagree with it though.
How many many times has he done it? He averages 20 at a SR of 65 and has played about a million tests so really quite a few.
Don’t get me wrong, I think his batting has underperformed his talent partly because he’s often brainlessly aggressive, it’s just that actually this wasn’t a bad situation for playing his shots and one of his quick 30s would have been great. England didn’t badly need quick runs as it was hardly a declaration situation but neither was there any huge need to grind out every possible run in a tight game and even then it doesn’t hurt to score at both ends. What he did was fine, he just didn’t execute his shot well (cf the shot Buttler played early in his innings which should have had him caught midwicket).
Jun 4, 2018 -- 9:57AM, wondersobright wrote:
it is a well known fact in cricket that broad's batting has gone off a cliff in the last few yearsbroad's last 20 innings in tests in eng (comparable conditions):2, 0, 0, 38, 14*, 0, 5, 7, 3, 5, 0, 0, 57*, 5, 0, 13, 1, 17, 14, 7 (may 2016-june 2018)scoresless than 10: 1610 to 30: 4over 30: 2thanks but I'd prefer to see him leaving or blocking when on strike and allowing buttler to play his shots at the other end as the payoffs for the team are far greater using this strategy than they are to have broad slogging and occasionally getting useful runs himselfif its broad & anderson left at the end then I am with you 100% on your strategy argument but it is selfish and braindead I'm afraid with a batsman of buttler's class on 70+ not out at the other end
It’s a well repeated canard that Broad’s batting has gone off a cliff. That’s not quite the same thing, is it? He’s always been more of a hitter than a proper batsman, which is a shame but there you go.
I see you cherry picked your stats much as I did.
Buttler wasn’t actually on 70+ at the time Broad was out but he certainly was set.
Broad just bats like that. As I’ve said, this is a problem sometimes but wasn’t particularly here.
Jun 4, 2018 -- 12:25AM, jucel69 wrote:
Had an inkling this might happen so I closed my position yesterday morning and went out for the day (sans phone!)Got back when they were 6 down and didn't even bother going for gold. All in all a decent result for me personally, which looked impossible half way through day 1.Hopefully that's stopped the rot, April and May were vile months from a betting viewpoint
Now that’s discipline. By contrast, I screwed a reasonable position to make only a small green when even a tiny bit of thought would have told me the draw was only likely to go up while England batted and that being on it with Pak batting was very high risk of green evaporating. Not a good test for me but at least I didn’t lose the nearly £4K I was red on England day 1.
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