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rosebowl
15 Jan 18 17:27
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Ben has been charged with affray.Even if convicted is likely to get only fine and community service order. Looks  like he is pleading not guilty as he could have pleaded guilty today in order to obtain early guilty plea discount. Will probaly go to Crown Court which will take 9 months to a year before it is heard.I imagine he will be able to afford a very good defence barrister.
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Report cricketnut2 January 17, 2018 11:58 AM GMT
Get him back in the England side, no we wouldn't have beaten Australia, but we would have at least completed on a more level basis.
Report sewter lives again January 17, 2018 9:12 PM GMT
looks like he is available for selection now for NZ tour-what a farce, should have played in Australia
Report ph. January 20, 2018 11:49 AM GMT
not sure they give out fines for those FOUND guilty of affray, it is a nasty severe charge ( one down from riot if I recall ) and carries plenty of bird if FOUND guilty. Obviously he is going self defence or provocation and it may work out but for a normal fella, throwing out the early plea option leaves the defendant chasing a not guilty or a bit of stir!
Report Charlie January 20, 2018 3:06 PM GMT
Affray
An offence under section 3 is triable either way. The maximum penalty on conviction on indictment is 3 years' imprisonment and/or a fine of unlimited amount. On summary conviction the maximum penalty is 6 months' imprisonment and/or a fine not exceeding level 5.

Under section 3 of the Act, it must be proved that a person has used or threatened:

unlawful violence;
towards another;
and his conduct is such as would cause;
a person of reasonable firmness;
present at the scene;
to fear for his personal safety.

The seriousness of the offence lies in the effect that the behaviour of the accused has on members of the public who may have been put in fear. There must be some conduct, beyond the use of words, which is threatening and directed towards a person or persons. Mere words are not enough. Violent conduct towards property alone is not sufficient for the purposes of an offence under section 3. For a definition of 'violence' in affray see section 8 of the Act .


https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/public-order-offences-incorporating-charging-standard
Report rosebowl January 21, 2018 9:07 AM GMT
Pity there isnt a market for this. Im going not guilty at evens. If guilty 6 months custodial suspended for 2 years.
Report Fatslogger January 21, 2018 11:37 AM GMT
Lol, email Betfair now.
Report ph. January 23, 2018 12:51 AM GMT
he is going to trial, if found guilty he isn't getting a bender. Well normal Joe Public doesn't so Ben is either reliant on convincing a jury to find him not guilty or maybe the Crown will accept a guilty plea to a lesser charge in time.
Report Crawford February 2, 2018 12:41 PM GMT
Cretinous tattoo-ed ginger chavscum.
Report detraveller February 2, 2018 5:20 PM GMT
Haven't followed the case but wondering why it has turned into something so big and serious? Surely people get drunk and hit others everyday?

How much of this has to do with the other guy not accepting a financial solution and probably asking for a sum Stokes can't/doesnt want to pay? I'm sure this has been put on the table at some point?
Report mafeking February 3, 2018 12:31 AM GMT
isn't the fella he stuck the right hander on also up on the affray charge ? 3 charged and from what i remember from the cctv stokes was pushing and shoving 2 other blokes
Report Crawford February 13, 2018 1:27 PM GMT
Gonna go to trial now.  If the charge was of being a ginger tattoo-ed chav with mates with chav names like Ryan, it would be the proverbial open-and-shut case.
Report ph. February 13, 2018 11:42 PM GMT
local CPS got a hard on for celebs and the headlines, by charging with affray they have to indict the others involved,
victims/aggressors or not. That is the point of affray in that it takes a minimum number of participants, if the victims are treated as victims then it isn't affray.  Am thinking Hales has done well to avoid the indictment, unless he is CPS star turn. He could have been indicted for probable incitement at the scene, his statement cleared the decks and Stokes' didn't unless he went no comment and the CPS allowing the media to plaster the cctv all over the news and media decided they had no choice but to charge and see what comes out in the wash at trial. A jury still has to find him guilty. Who knows what the background is for the other two regarding criminality, violence, convictions, homophobia and bigotry. Its the jury that convicts, the CPS merely charges. If a juror decides self defence, provocation or that the other pair got their just desserts then that is his/her right.
Report Injera February 14, 2018 5:39 PM GMT
Free to tour NZ but Strauss bottled it and didn't let him play in Oz. You can't make this stuff up..

And Strauss is supposed to be bright. Sad
Report ph. February 14, 2018 9:36 PM GMT
innocent until proven guilty, Strauss jumped the gun pulling rank and banning Ben, funnily enough BS may benefit from the rest and he should be nicely warmed up for the IPL and his kings ransom. Strikes me as a patriot and someone proud to wear national shirt but seeing the lack of support from on high ( and admitted diluting of Test cricket ) then go forth and be a short game mercenary and accept any central contract for shorter versions only.
Report Whisperingdeath February 15, 2018 12:57 PM GMT
Not even charged and he is banned by his own. Charged yet free to play for his country and foreign gold!

Who runs our game?

I am looking forward to see him play at Lords and the Oval. Unless of course our leaders say he was too successful in India and this might set a bad precedent for others and they ban him again!
Report B1GTONY76 February 16, 2018 10:08 PM GMT
test
Report B1GTONY76 February 16, 2018 10:08 PM GMT
test
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