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frog2
16 May 17 21:02
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I cannot see past the Sunrisers in this one.

Why are KKR favorites at 1.95 and SRH 2.04?

Sunrisers have picked the perfect squad for the play-offs. They have lost no one. They have Kumar (top wicket taker) and Warner (top runs). They have the Afghans who are perfect for bowling on these warn pitches.

KKR have lost 4 of their last 5 matches. They have lost Woakes and recently the style Lynn and Narine play at the top of the order had rubbed off on the whole team. No one is willing to show grit and adjust in the way Warner can to get the job done.

I make no secret of the fact I think SRH will win this one and will win the IPL again this year.
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Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:31 PM BST
Why do they try and finish it in 3 overs?
Report East_Coast_Eagle May 17, 2017 8:32 PM BST
This is the perfect start for KKR after the rain break
Report East_Coast_Eagle May 17, 2017 8:32 PM BST
i mean Sunrisers
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:32 PM BST
How many overs can they each bowl?
Report Whisperingdeath May 17, 2017 8:32 PM BST
FFS

Get Narine in but after GG! Calm Calm calm!
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:32 PM BST
as many as they want?
Report Steam May 17, 2017 8:32 PM BST
Yes they are well capable of mugging get Gambhir and its done
Report ayt May 17, 2017 8:33 PM BST
44444444444444444444444444
Report bobweenit May 17, 2017 8:33 PM BST
4444444444444444444444
Report bobweenit May 17, 2017 8:33 PM BST
GAMBHIR IS THE MAN
Report winningthought May 17, 2017 8:33 PM BST
37 off 30
Report East_Coast_Eagle May 17, 2017 8:33 PM BST
shot Gautam
Report tomtimtum May 17, 2017 8:33 PM BST
CJ lol
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:34 PM BST
Jordan comes on
Report tomtimtum May 17, 2017 8:34 PM BST
at least 15 off this over
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:34 PM BST
market goes 1.36 to 1.28
Report Whisperingdeath May 17, 2017 8:34 PM BST
My name is Khan!
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:34 PM BST
lol
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:34 PM BST
what is wrong with Warner? lost the plot picking and then bowling CJ
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:35 PM BST
got him
Report tomtimtum May 17, 2017 8:35 PM BST
typical Jordan wicket Laugh
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:35 PM BST
great bowling
Report winningthought May 17, 2017 8:35 PM BST
Long hop Laugh
Report 1alph1 May 17, 2017 8:35 PM BST
useless KKR hahaha
Report East_Coast_Eagle May 17, 2017 8:35 PM BST
3 DOWN Panic stations
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:35 PM BST
why are they trying to hit every ball?
Report Whisperingdeath May 17, 2017 8:35 PM BST
Chris Jordan!

Was just about to say comedy Gold!

Egg on face!
Report Cardinal Scott May 17, 2017 8:35 PM BST
Did a small bit of tick nicking during the rain but did not want to get involved any further.  One for addicts this one and I would definitely have trust issues!
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:36 PM BST
36 from 30 why play like that?
Report Whisperingdeath May 17, 2017 8:36 PM BST
GG da man.

Push it around FFS
Report Steam May 17, 2017 8:37 PM BST
common sense not so common huh
Report East_Coast_Eagle May 17, 2017 8:38 PM BST
Can Jaggi bat much?
Report Steam May 17, 2017 8:38 PM BST
yes..serious talent
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:38 PM BST
never heard of him
Report Steam May 17, 2017 8:38 PM BST
Amazing first class season this year
Report Cardinal Scott May 17, 2017 8:39 PM BST
Nonsense on Stilts not to give Narine a role imo
Report Whisperingdeath May 17, 2017 8:39 PM BST
My name is Khan!
Report East_Coast_Eagle May 17, 2017 8:39 PM BST
Ishank Jaggi . first time I have heard of him
Report Steam May 17, 2017 8:39 PM BST
its KKR's Panty boy
Report ayt May 17, 2017 8:39 PM BST
66666666666666666666
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:39 PM BST
thats the match. CJ mug bowler
Report ayt May 17, 2017 8:39 PM BST
LaughLaugh WELL DONE,FROG
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:40 PM BST
Can they bowl as many overs as they like each?
Report tomtimtum May 17, 2017 8:41 PM BST
1 can bowl 2 and others 1
Report Steam May 17, 2017 8:41 PM BST
no...1 bowler 2 and others 1
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:41 PM BST
That is so unfair when KKR get 10 wickets.
Report tomtimtum May 17, 2017 8:41 PM BST
DL doesnt work as well for T20
Report Whisperingdeath May 17, 2017 8:42 PM BST
You heard it here first from steam

Jaggi the new Pantyboy!

Big shout that!

Pant will be a Superstar!
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:42 PM BST
DLS is a terrible algo
Report Steam May 17, 2017 8:42 PM BST
Jaggi would also be a regular name in Indian team..wait for it
Report tomtimtum May 17, 2017 8:42 PM BST
Its fine for 50 over cricket
Report Steam May 17, 2017 8:43 PM BST
Jaggi, Kishan and Panty boy...
Report bobweenit May 17, 2017 8:43 PM BST

May 16, 2017 -- 10:08PM, bobweenit wrote:


Gonna have a big non cutting bet on KKR myself Gambhir will steer his boys through serenely


WOULD YOU ADAM AND EVE ITCool $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Report bobweenit May 17, 2017 8:43 PM BST
GAMBHIR THE GOAT
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:44 PM BST
Good call bob
Report ayt May 17, 2017 8:44 PM BST
TWISTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:46 PM BST
Rain has really helped KKR. No way they would have got the original total.
Report bobweenit May 17, 2017 8:46 PM BST
BLAH BLAH AYT THIS IS A TRAIN AND NOBODY IS DERAILING THE  KOLKATA EXPRESS TO 1.01
Report Whisperingdeath May 17, 2017 8:46 PM BST
Jaggi is 28!
Report Whisperingdeath May 17, 2017 8:47 PM BST
My name is Khan!
Report East_Coast_Eagle May 17, 2017 8:47 PM BST

May 17, 2017 -- 8:46PM, frog2 wrote:


Rain has really helped KKR. No way they would have got the original total.


I think they would have still got it easily. Chasing off 20 overs, gives you time to settle in. Batting 7 overs, your forced to be aggressive from the get go.

Report ayt May 17, 2017 8:48 PM BST
44444444444444444444
Report Steam May 17, 2017 8:48 PM BST
yes..saw him in the syed mushtaq tournament
Report Whisperingdeath May 17, 2017 8:49 PM BST
GG!
Report bobweenit May 17, 2017 8:49 PM BST
SERENELYCool
Report bobweenit May 17, 2017 8:49 PM BST
Where is this Twist Ayt?
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:49 PM BST
How do you price up KKR v MI?
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:50 PM BST
who is favourite?
Report Steam May 17, 2017 8:50 PM BST
MI
Report Whisperingdeath May 17, 2017 8:50 PM BST
I have to say the one side I would not want to play are KKR!
Report Steam May 17, 2017 8:50 PM BST
unless rain comes and helps kkr again
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:50 PM BST
they tricked me losing 4 matches in 5.
Report ayt May 17, 2017 8:50 PM BST
bobweenit • May 17, 2017 8:49 PM BST
Where is this Twist Ayt?
LaughLaugh DID U PANICKED?
Report bobweenit May 17, 2017 8:51 PM BST
nopeCool
Report Whisperingdeath May 17, 2017 8:51 PM BST
My name is Khan!
Report ayt May 17, 2017 8:51 PM BST
LaughLaughWE KNOW IT WD
Report Steam May 17, 2017 8:51 PM BST
AYT tricked every one....AYT is official GOATLoveLoveLove
Report bobweenit May 17, 2017 8:53 PM BST
LoveLove
Report ayt May 17, 2017 8:53 PM BST
MY NAME IS KHAN AND I WILL LIFT THE TROPHY 1000%..Grin
Report Whisperingdeath May 17, 2017 8:54 PM BST
Sad way to go out but they only scored 128 in 20 overs! They were lucky to get a second chance
Report Whisperingdeath May 17, 2017 8:54 PM BST
My name is Khan!
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:54 PM BST
128 was more than enough on this pitch with this attack
Report Whisperingdeath May 17, 2017 8:56 PM BST
My name is Khan!
Report East_Coast_Eagle May 17, 2017 8:57 PM BST

May 17, 2017 -- 8:54PM, frog2 wrote:


128 was more than enough on this pitch with this attack


Don't think it would have been enough. The lowest defended target before this match on this ground was 138 runs from 57 matches. Would have been something very , very special.

Report Whisperingdeath May 17, 2017 8:58 PM BST
My name is Khan!

Game shot!
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:58 PM BST
Those matches are mainly from years when the average score was 180
Report East_Coast_Eagle May 17, 2017 8:58 PM BST
Lowest 5 defended totals on this ground ( in ascending order): 138, 152, 152 (1 tie), 156, 156
Report East_Coast_Eagle May 17, 2017 8:59 PM BST
Pitches don't change much in Bangalore in my opinion.
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:59 PM BST
As I said ECE you are not comparing like with like
Report Steam May 17, 2017 8:59 PM BST
ok folks till tomorrow...!!! SRH  u deserved better.
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 8:59 PM BST
the pitches this year are dozens of runs lower than previous years
Report peckerdunne May 17, 2017 8:59 PM BST
So no super over?
Report Steam May 17, 2017 9:00 PM BST
LaughLaugh
Report peckerdunne May 17, 2017 9:00 PM BST
Laugh Whats so funny
Report peckerdunne May 17, 2017 9:01 PM BST
Was going to put all my CMM profits on the super over........Sad
Report frog2 May 17, 2017 9:16 PM BST
73% of matches where the first team faced the full 120 balls and the second team had less than 40 balls were won by the chasing team.
Report East_Coast_Eagle May 17, 2017 10:01 PM BST

May 17, 2017 -- 8:59PM, frog2 wrote:


As I said ECE you are not comparing like with like


You are right in that regard. For instance , I look at the ground in the Big Bash, like the Hobart Hurricanes home ground. Traditionally, it used to be one of the toughest scoring grounds in Australia. Now with the flat wicket, floodlights, and smaller boundaries, you can't compare apples with oranges. I think a bigger indicator is the median values as you focus on the middle scores. I focus on median values in run chases and median values in 1st innings runs as they I think give a more fairer reflection. The mean in this case would be fairly bias.  I've watched many IPL games (since season 1) and I honestly don't think there is that much in change in wickets. You also have to factor into account how bad Bangalore have been this season.

Report East_Coast_Eagle May 17, 2017 10:03 PM BST
Also records are always there to be broken as well. Delhi's home ground 214 was chased up which was a new record for IPL, recorded this season. And traditionally the Feroz Shah in the initial seasons was one of the hardest scoring grounds as well.........
Report East_Coast_Eagle May 17, 2017 10:09 PM BST
if a team is chasing 128 on this ground in a Final. I would have priced KKR to chase that down at around 1.12-1.13 ( i think the rain delay and interruptions pushed it up to around 1.25). In the run chase involving Delhi v Gujarat this campaign ( from memory the change of innings odds was Delhi 3.75 v 1.34 Gujarat......I said Gujarat was the 'value' at the change of innings and Delhi ended up chasing it down.) At the end of the day I'm all about chasing value and with gambling/trading you always have to face the potential of losses. No system is "centimetre perfect" (famous quote from Dennis Cometti)
Report pxb May 18, 2017 8:23 AM BST
In the end it didn't matter who opened for KKR, GG was there to steady the ship and get the win.
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