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Lee Ho Fooks
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macarony 01 Jan 18 19:34 Joined: 13 Mar 05 | Topic/replies: 3,242 | Blogger: macarony's blog

I listen to quite a few audio books when I am at work. some of the books this year.
Irvin Welsh. The Blade artist, A Decent Ride.
Nick Redfern. Bloodline of the Gods.
Dan Brown. The Da Vinci Code.
Graham Hancock. Fingerprints Of The Gods.
David Eagleman. The Brain.
The Brain is real eye opener, I never knew that a three year old child had twice as many pathways than a 30 years old, or that decisions that we think is made by the conscious mind are in fact made by our sub conscious mind. Every decision we make is the result of a sub conscious battle.
Then there is our memory far from being in high definition they are infact stored in  low resolution, and the neurons involved in makeing the conection are reused time and again further lowering the resolution.
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Report Lee Ho Fooks January 27, 2018 1:36 PM GMT
Foinavon 13 Jan 18 19:56 Joined: 11 Oct 00 | Topic/replies: 8,196 | Blogger: Foinavon's blog
Pulp: A Novel, Charles Bukowski

This is surreal, I don't know what to make of it. A spoof on detective novels it is interspersed with dry humour in terse one-liners. The chapters are short but you just keep reading, you need to know what's round the corner.
Sadly, this was Bukowski's last work, I could read more of these but not to be. I'll read this one again.
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 27, 2018 1:38 PM GMT
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If you want a good French book Les Pegriots by Auguste Le Breton is magnificent. A biography of Georges Hainneaux AKA Jo La Terreur.
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 27, 2018 1:38 PM GMT
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Schindler's List - Thomas Keneally

This is a first in my life, the only book where I have broken down crying my eyes out. My eyes are welling with tears now as I write just thinking about it. Man's Inhumanity to man.  And I really would object if someone said that should be persons inhumanity to person, because I don't think the majority of women would do what men did in the holocaust. Again I am not blaming men it is the way they are born.

Gray Mountain - John Grisham

I know I say he is not as good as his reputation but I got this book free again.  This is the same as the rest almost, lots of loose ends etc etc.  I think he writes as he goes along and if he has not come up with the answers he just leaves the book hanging Sad  The good think about it was it describes the strip mining which is ravaging the countryside there.

The War of the Worlds - H G Wells

Now here is a proper 'classic' book.  No waffle, no bad plots etc etc.  My only gripe is that I wish he had made the book longer and expanded the theme.
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 27, 2018 1:39 PM GMT
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The Murder on the Orient Express by Agatha Christie

Not that great imho. 6/10.
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 27, 2018 1:40 PM GMT
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The French Revolution

The French Revolution is so complicated, so I read it about it again.  I wish I had read it before I read 'A place of greater Safety' by hilary mantel which is set in the french revolution - good book by the way.

A big coincidence was that in the pictures that accompany the book was the picture by David of Marat dead in his bath after being killed by Charlotte Corday, it made an impression on me.  So today I was reading the telegraph and lo and behold the same picture that i saw last night was there in the paper!
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 27, 2018 1:40 PM GMT
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Giovanni's Room - James Baldwin

Another 'classic' but it is okay and very different to the usual.  It was written by a black american homosexual back in 1956 when it was illegal in america and england.  Probably why the author went to Paris in his twenties where it was legal.  It had been legal since the french revolution!

It is about homosexuality and bisexuality and from my experience in the gay world it is quite truthful, warts and all.

Strong Medicine - Arthur Hailey

I read some of his books a long, long time ago and I quite enjoyed them. This one, however, is a bit plodding but it is very illuminating about the drug companies.  I knew quite a bit about them, so that i rarely take any drugs prescription or otherwise, but this goes further.  I know that he always did loads of research for his books and it shows in this one.

The Three Musketeers - Alexandre Dumas

I wish I had looked up the history involved in this book as it might have helped me to enjoy it more.  I only skimmed read it so it was doubly confusing and then when I came to the end I found that it had been abridged, so that explained all the confusion.  I read on wiki that these early translations which this one was, had all the  sexual references deleted.  Get a recent translation for it.
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 27, 2018 1:40 PM GMT
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Du Coté De Chez Swann - Proust
The Genesis Rock - Edwin Corley , a decent yarn but not special
The Hanged Men - Edwin Corley as David Harper , a lightweight read
The Alienist - Caleb Carr , lunacy and thuggery , child abuse and buggery , rotting corpses and 'orrible murders . Fun for all the family. Well worth a read .
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 27, 2018 1:41 PM GMT
bigH 26 Jan 18 21:12 Joined: 04 Apr 03 | Topic/replies: 7,007 | Blogger: bigH's blog
Almost finished the first of Alistair Campbell's Diaries - Prelude to Power

I can't stand the bloke, but his diaries are an eye-opener.

He gives Gordon Brown a good kicking all the way through the first book
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 27, 2018 1:41 PM GMT
Foinavon 26 Jan 18 21:29 Joined: 11 Oct 00 | Topic/replies: 8,196 | Blogger: Foinavon's blog
That's the first part completed then, dunlaying. You are a glutton for punishment aren't you? Wink

I've started to read "Voyage" and am pleasantly surprised by how the writing flows and the vivid imagery of a combatant in WW1. The argot takes me back to the time when I worked in France and must have been shocking to contemporary readers of the book.
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 27, 2018 1:41 PM GMT
Foinavon 26 Jan 18 22:18 Joined: 11 Oct 00 | Topic/replies: 8,196 | Blogger: Foinavon's blog
The Death of Marat is a famous painting, annie. David did many portraits of Bonaparte, all commissioned for propaganda purposes. You may have seen the one where he is standing in full regalia in front of his writing bureau, hand in waistcoat in his classic pose, burning a midnight candle.(Message: your emperor is working all hours for the state). He painted several of him mounted on horseback crossing the Alps to duff up the Lombards. On the rocks are inscribed the names of Hannibal, Charlemagne and Bonaparte thus elevating him to the status of those great leaders.
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 27, 2018 1:42 PM GMT
Aaah! Happy
Report dunlaying January 27, 2018 2:56 PM GMT
Lee , I have finished the work once before but this time I am taking my time . I find it really difficult in parts.
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 27, 2018 3:13 PM GMT
I kept reading the 2017 thread Dunlaying but wanted a 2018 thread. This not ideal but unforunately it's as good as you get with me doing it
Report dunlaying January 28, 2018 11:10 AM GMT
I am with you now . Laugh
Foinavon , if you enjoy argot you would love Alphonse Boudard .
Report Foinavon January 28, 2018 5:28 PM GMT
Thanks, dunlaying. I see there a several of his novels in the Kindle store, where should I start?
Report dunlaying January 28, 2018 5:43 PM GMT
La Metamorphose Des Cloportes is first but not the best . Perhaps La Cerise ?
They will be cheaper from Abebooksuk .com
I have read nearly all of his books and have enjoyed every one of them.
Report Foinavon January 28, 2018 5:53 PM GMT
La Cerise is there so will start with that. Are the downloads from Abebooksuk compatible with Kindle or pc only?
Thank you.
Report dunlaying January 28, 2018 6:07 PM GMT
I didn't know they sold downloads . I buy paperbacks from there .
Report Foinavon January 28, 2018 6:13 PM GMT
OK. I've visited the site and as you said they sell printed books. I've just been searching for some out of print art books and they have a good selection.
I'll buy "La Cerise" from Amazon as I find reading the small typeface in printed books too tiring.
Report Foinavon February 2, 2018 2:16 PM GMT
Read some of of La Cerise, Dunlaying. Renewed acquaintance with some half-forgotten words and learned a few new ones.Laugh. Loved his description of "Le Chateau des Rungis", sharing a cell with Otto and le pétomane Normand also the "interview" with the police. One has to suppose he was writing from experience and had managed to retain his sense of humour.
Thanks for the heads up about this author, it's surprising there are no translations of his work.
Report annie. February 2, 2018 3:19 PM GMT
From your posts, Foinavon and dunlaying, is that correct that you can both read french?
Report Foinavon February 2, 2018 3:30 PM GMT
Yes, you wouldn't be able to read Boudard unless you have more than a working knowledge of French. I would be surprised if you could hack it with schoolgirl French and a dictionary. Unfortunately, there doesn't appear to be an English language translation, more's the pity.
Report dunlaying February 2, 2018 4:26 PM GMT
I don't think it would translate Foinavon . I am pleased you are enjoying it .
All of his books are based on his own adventures . I have read 14 and have another 3 to savour .
Albert Simonin is another master of Argot . His novel L'Elegant is very good .
Report Foinavon February 2, 2018 4:40 PM GMT
You would lose a lot of the sense as there isn't equivalence in the slang terms and as with translations of "Voyage au bout de la Nuit" it wouldn't flow nearly as well. For example "Qui vole un oeuf..." you need to know the colloquialism and translating as "Once a thief..." you lose the subtlety of later references to "boeuf" and stealing the Easter egg.
I'll make a note of L'Elegant on my wish list.
Report dunlaying February 4, 2018 5:50 PM GMT
Foinavon , three great reads ;
Les Silences Du Colonel Bramble - Andre Maurois , a great read and written with an English turn of phrase so surprisingly easy .
La Soupe Au Choux - René Falet , poignant and funny . A story of two retired peasants and an alien . Each one a "petomane" .
Jesus La Caille - Francis Carco , a cult classic set in Paris in the early 20th century .
Report annie. February 4, 2018 6:38 PM GMT
How come you can read in french, dunlaying and Foinavon?  I have got schoolgirl french but that is all.
Report Foinavon February 4, 2018 7:10 PM GMT
I lived and worked in France for seven years and didn't mix with any English people, annie. People, books, TV, work documents immersed me in French language and culture. Even though it was decades ago I can still flip effortlessly from thinking in one language to the other. There are lots of people like me, it's nothing special, most immigrants can do it.
Report Foinavon February 4, 2018 7:14 PM GMT
Thanks for the recommendations, dunlaying. I haven't read any of those.
Report annie. February 4, 2018 7:27 PM GMT
What did you work at in france, Foinavon?
Report Foinavon February 4, 2018 7:31 PM GMT
I trained as a scientist and worked in industry. I don't want to be too specific on here, annie.
Report dunlaying February 4, 2018 8:01 PM GMT
I used to love Teach Yourself books . Out of circulation for a while in the 80s I used them to learn French and the Calculus .
Report Foinavon February 4, 2018 8:01 PM GMT
I would be interested to hear dunlaying's story, he is much wider read than me.
Report Foinavon February 4, 2018 8:02 PM GMT
Oh, there you go, posted together.
Report annie. February 4, 2018 8:09 PM GMT
I always knew you were intelligent, Foinavon.  What puzzles me is what are you doing on a gambling site, you seem too posh Happy  Bet on cricket maybe - I could cheat and look up forums but I won't do that.  Politics, horseracing? Golf? Rugby?

dunlaying, you are a revelation.  I salute you, learning french from a book well enough to read proper french books.  What do you bet on?  I did calculus for my 'O' and 'A' levels.
Report Foinavon February 4, 2018 8:16 PM GMT
It's kind of you to say so, annie. I only bet on cricket, Test matches are preferred, good guess.
Before BF came along, I used to lose money betting on horses and realised it was a mugs game for me.
Being able to bet in running on cricket turned the tide. I only bet in small amounts to keep the demons at bay.

Great feat by dunlaying to gain enough fluency to read some of the books he has mentioned. Well done sir!
Report annie. February 4, 2018 8:19 PM GMT
Yes!!  The first sport I thought of was cricket - dead posh Laugh
Report Foinavon February 4, 2018 8:23 PM GMT
I'm not at all posh annie, I grew up on a council estate. I love cricket though, lots of twists and turns which gives you a good chance to get out with a profit if betting on it.
Report annie. February 4, 2018 8:29 PM GMT
Snap, Foinavon, so did I Happy

I was in love with horse racing for many years, maybe because I saw it as a puzzle to be solved and there is great drama in all the great occasions.  I often think about going back to it, but it does take a lot of time, studying form in the morning and then all afternoon sat in front of a screen.  I do miss the old betting shop when it was crowded, fantastic atmosphere.  Maybe I gave it up then because sitting in front of a screen is not the same somehow.
Report Foinavon February 4, 2018 8:34 PM GMT
I loved the old shops too and remember when they marked the prices up on a board like a track bookie. No screens just a crackly commentary over the tannoy.Laugh
Report annie. February 4, 2018 8:44 PM GMT
My dad did the boards  in his spare time.  He was an high court usher later in his life so he had a lot of spare time.  He was the usher to Lord Justice Megarry, a Vice Chancellor.  That is where I got my love of horse racing from.
Report Foinavon February 4, 2018 8:53 PM GMT
I first went to a bookie with a friend from school days. We pooled our money and had some two bob each way bets on the Grand National. We picked out the silliest names at the longest odds. You can guess the rest.
Report annie. February 4, 2018 8:56 PM GMT
Foinavon!!!!

Do I get a prize Happy
Report Foinavon February 4, 2018 9:04 PM GMT
It felt good at the time but if he had not won then I wouldn't have got hooked and would have saved an awful lot of money over the years. Betfair saved me from myself by having an easily accessed profit and loss account and offering better alternatives. Despite their faults I will never criticise them.
Report Foinavon February 4, 2018 9:17 PM GMT
Betfair just sent me an email about the Superbowl with something called "Oddsboost". I've deleted it just like I do with all the offers of free bets on the casino and football. I just stick to what I know. Ericster wrote something similar on another thread. Happy
Report annie. February 4, 2018 9:42 PM GMT
Yes, they are always sending me offers as well.  Casino does not interest me at all.  Betfair and pokerstars and party poker are forever sending me free casino bets but to me that is just like bingo.  I like something that has some skill in it.

I only bet on football, specials and politics at the moment.  I did enjoy betting on the big games of  golf, tennis and cycling etc but I don't have the time to keep up with it now, but probably more pertinently I haven't got a tv!
Report Foinavon February 4, 2018 9:54 PM GMT
As long as you enjoy it, even better if you make a profit.

Thinking about the French language books, you could always test yourself by reading the free samples on Amazon Kindle. "la Cerise" is there. Many of the words are slang expressions, avoir la cerise for example means to be unlucky.
Report annie. February 4, 2018 10:34 PM GMT
I have had a look Foinavon, but it would take me forever to translate, as you and dunlaying say there are many slang expressions- even if I could translate the rest!

But I did look up the author and I think I would like his books too.  I have noticed that the authors I like have had a varied life, unlike certain 'classical' authors who seem to have led sheltered lives among the privileged of society.
Report Foinavon February 5, 2018 11:24 AM GMT
Celine is easier and is a much better class of writing in my opinion. There are also English translations. Although I'm nowhere near finished, from what I've read so far it's a worthwhile read. Voyage au bout de la nuit is a serious work, La Cerise is dry humour about the shambolic life of the criminal classes.
Report G Hall February 5, 2018 12:02 PM GMT
Currently reading to kill the president by sam bourne I should have said currently struggling to read it nust a w ful so far,but I will update if I progress further.
Report Lee Ho Fooks February 5, 2018 6:06 PM GMT
Is this the council estate thread? If so, signing inHappy
Report annie. February 5, 2018 6:15 PM GMT
LaughLaugh


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Report Foinavon February 5, 2018 7:07 PM GMT
Perhaps we need a separate thread for that, don't want to lose the books theme.
Report Foinavon February 18, 2018 11:37 PM GMT
Flash for Freedom - George MacDonald Fraser.

Early last year, I was reading my way through the Flashman series of novels when I took a break and read some very interesting books recommended by contributors to this and the 2017 thread.
Decided it was time to read another and realise that I had forgotten what a superb writer GMF was.

This book is historical fiction centred on the transatlantic slave trade in the 19th century but is about much else as well including power and corruption on a monumental scale. There is plenty of GMF's dry humour and historical titbits too. Be aware that the writing would be considered offensive today with racist terms that make it authentic for it's setting.
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