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Pleasegivemeanailedontip
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Total political and media meltdown over trump the last few days. Lost count of people who think he is disgusting or shameful or disgraceful.

Why are the media so concerned with the fact that some people say the Pershing story is untrue? Is that really the story here, Trump tweets something that some other people have said they dont believe? Seems they are not prepared to tackle the actual point he was making which was after all, the controversial bit.
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Report stickyvicky February 15, 2019 12:13 PM GMT
So what has died thus far ? I'm still confused.
Report cooperman February 15, 2019 12:28 PM GMT
That can't surprise anyone who has read your posts.Laugh
Report cooperman February 15, 2019 12:31 PM GMT
Just for starters, how about his phony Trump University, his Trump airline, his Trump Casino, his phony Trump Charity. All RIP. Laugh
Report SontaranStratagem February 15, 2019 12:33 PM GMT
Trumps height is the talk of the town?

Despite everything going on at this time and whether he's 2 inches smaller than he claims is the talk of the month?

Crazy
Report cooperman February 15, 2019 12:35 PM GMT
Laugh The height thing was just to wind up sticky (it worked)Mischief
Report SontaranStratagem February 15, 2019 12:37 PM GMT
If Trumpies are getting wound up because someone claims he's 6 foot 2 instead of his claimed 6 foot 3 1/4 inches then wow Laugh
Report cooperman February 15, 2019 1:15 PM GMT
Yeah their modus operandi is to come up with some playground disparaging nickname for anyone outside their gang.Laugh
Report stickyvicky February 15, 2019 2:14 PM GMT

Feb 15, 2019 -- 6:31AM, cooperman wrote:


Just for starters, how about his phony Trump University, his Trump airline, his Trump Casino, his phony Trump Charity. All RIP.


One must break eggs to make an omelette
And anyway he settled Trump Uni action only because he did not want this litigation hanging over during his Presidency not because he was liable.

Report nellie1970 February 15, 2019 2:19 PM GMT
STICKY JUST FOR YOU. when you get a minute watch this great mash up of how many times the media since 2017 predicts that Trump is done.

quite embarrassing for the so called straight down the line media


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdHtAzFNwjE
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Report dave1357 February 15, 2019 2:20 PM GMT
he did not want this litigation hanging over during his Presidency

So why didn't he shut down his crooked charity?  Or conduct his inauguration in a legitimate manner?  Or tell truth about the Russian interactions with his campaign?
Report cooperman February 15, 2019 2:29 PM GMT
Four star General Joseph Votel puts Donald Trump firmly in his place concerning his false ISIS claims, confirming Donald is clueless.
Report stickyvicky February 15, 2019 2:39 PM GMT
'So why didn't he shut down his crooked charity?  Or conduct his inauguration in a legitimate manner?  Or tell truth about the Russian interactions with his campaign?'

Bob has all the answers here, we are all waiting with bated breath for his findings.
Findings of which NBC have doubled down on recently to remind us again that they may be 'disappointing'
....Chortles, LoLs and titters.....
Report nellie1970 February 15, 2019 2:41 PM GMT
still carrying out the presidents order of withdrawing troops from Syria.The thought of any American troops being pulled out from anywhere in the world makes the military industrial complex nervous.As one new congress woman says its all about the Benjamin's baby
Report stickyvicky February 15, 2019 2:46 PM GMT
Yep, Nellie I posted that link on here some weeks ago,
Still get a good laugh out of it, the gift that keeps on giving

L Laugh L
Report nellie1970 February 15, 2019 2:50 PM GMT
You got to start feeling feeling a bit sorry for Bob no one can just shut and wait for his findings.Now has to report to a new Attorney general who now has to be read up on the investigation.
Report nellie1970 February 15, 2019 3:00 PM GMT
no tweets from the president this morning.must be doing some last minute bill reading. Due to sign the bill very soon.i can see one of his calamity press conferences coming today
Report stickyvicky February 15, 2019 3:01 PM GMT
Bob attended Barr's daughters wedding and both their wives go to the same bible study.
Nice a cosy friendship one thinks.
Report dave1357 February 15, 2019 3:04 PM GMT
stickyvicky • February 15, 2019 2:39 PM GMT
'So why didn't he shut down his crooked charity?  Or conduct his inauguration in a legitimate manner?  Or tell truth about the Russian interactions with his campaign?'

Bob has all the answers here, we are all waiting with bated breath for his findings


His charity already shut down, it isn't mueller who is investigating fraud at his inauguration and his lies about russian interactions are already proven.
Report nellie1970 February 15, 2019 3:17 PM GMT
good to see RBG back on the benchCoolshe certainly is one tough cookieCool
Report detraveller February 15, 2019 3:19 PM GMT

Feb 15, 2019 -- 8:19AM, nellie1970 wrote:


STICKY JUST FOR YOU. when you get a minute watch this great mash up of how many times the media since 2017 predicts that Trump is done.quite embarrassing for the so called straight down the line mediahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdHtAzFNwjE.


Sort of like this thread. Those that post here often probably don't realize it but every time I come here after a few days, someone is in trouble regarding some investigation, or appearing before congress or testifying against trump etc etc.

They'll do this till 2020, that is guaranteed. People whined about Obama for 4 years then reelected him. The same could happen here too.

Report aaronh February 15, 2019 3:30 PM GMT
It's mostly because people are still deluded and think that things that would sink any other leader will do the same to trump.

It's the same when people think they have got him after fact checking his 100th lie of the month or the 500th tweet that exposes him as a hypocrite
Report dr . atkins February 15, 2019 4:30 PM GMT
the more i see of trump the more i think he's nuts
Report aaronh February 15, 2019 4:33 PM GMT
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Trump, responding to my question, concedes there’s no national emergency to justify building his wall: “I didn’t need to do this... I just want to do it faster.”
That answer will complicate his legal case.

wow, another 4D chess move from Trump
Report SontaranStratagem February 15, 2019 5:22 PM GMT
They'd be wise to put a stop to this "emergency" stuff when it comes to presidents, nip this in the bud straight away imo

Because once they start normalising this caper they'll all be getting forced to use it, we know presidents are bought and paid for by the same few big daddies, when they want something doing just get their little dancing puppet to call an national emergency Cry

The american public should put a stop to it right now, but we all know they wont Sad
Report SontaranStratagem February 15, 2019 5:25 PM GMT
Can you imagine that Cortez or Cory Booker in "charge"?

They'd be dancing alright, doing the jive in calling an NE in regards to guns and the 2nd amendment

We all know the masters above have a massive bee in their bonnet when it comes to the 2nd amendment, its such a thorn in their precious little sides
Report SontaranStratagem February 15, 2019 5:26 PM GMT
They will continue to defend Trump but you've got to realise this sets a precedent for the future? if Trump the dumbo can get away with it then anyone can
Report SontaranStratagem February 15, 2019 5:28 PM GMT
Bare in mind Trump is effectively a president in crisis?

And he's calling national emergencies ffs, a crisis president getting this through the back door

It just paints a pretty dour picture for the future
Report Mr Eboue February 15, 2019 5:30 PM GMT
Trump, responding to a question, concedes there’s no national emergency to justify building his wall: “I didn’t need to do this... I just want to do it faster.”

His stupidity knows no bounds.

That answer will complicate his legal case significantly.
Report impossible123 February 15, 2019 5:38 PM GMT
President Trump is in love...with the wall and the Mexicans!
Report SontaranStratagem February 15, 2019 5:52 PM GMT
He's blabbering buffoon but the media will totally move away from that statement, eboue, simply because they are in on the whole charade

Its the same reason they continue to just ignore the fact Theresa May is a waste of space with no majority to govern, 2 years later, no majority, her government getting beat in every single vote and yet no one in the media mentions it

its a absolute disgrace, but they are totally reliant on the public being brain dead sadly
Report SontaranStratagem February 15, 2019 5:56 PM GMT
Who's betting by the start of 2021 "isis" and "terrorism" come back out to play, if Trump is gone?

They can then push their need to end the 2nd amendment in America with a national emergency ?

Wouldn't the previous 4 years of trump look totally convenient in hindsight ?

Lets keep our attention on it eh

What's happened to all the news stories in the past 2 and half years regarding isis and domestic terrorism ?
Report SontaranStratagem February 15, 2019 5:57 PM GMT
Its playing out exactly like a predictable book ffs

Trump does look awfully like a 1 term president at this point, but that could change who knows

See how the story progresses
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 15, 2019 9:22 PM GMT
Go on the Don.

Anyway, i have come up with a cheaper wall.

Its all American too.

Just have lasers across the boarders, anyone that tries to enter illegally gets zapped, win win imo.
Report detraveller February 15, 2019 9:35 PM GMT
Nancy Pelosi: "I guarantee Trump will NOT become the president"

Also Nancy Pelosi: "I will give one dollar for the wall"

This woman should run against Trump in 2020.
Report Torquemada February 15, 2019 9:41 PM GMT
Any aspiring Dem president threatening to call a national emergency on guns has just blown their chances of winning right there. A cast iron guaranteed election-losing policy.
Report Torquemada February 15, 2019 9:48 PM GMT
Mind you, the Dems do seem stupid enough lately to try such a move.
Report cooperman February 15, 2019 9:58 PM GMT
Mueller interviewing Sarah Huckabee. Tick Tock.Blush
Report dave1357 February 15, 2019 10:07 PM GMT
oh it is a witch hunt after all
Report stickyvicky February 15, 2019 11:36 PM GMT
Wasn't a surprise really. The Don was flagging this for months.

-The Don made a personal visit to the border to see for himself what is going on.
-The Don waited for a month for the Dems to negotiate during Christmas Government Shutdown, They went on holidays instead.
-The Don ends Gov. shutdown and gives a 3 week ultimatum for serious negotiations and puts National Emergency option on the table too.
-Dems cough up $1.7 billion from a $1 dollar previous position.
-The Don says he is not happy after the 3 weeks of negotiations.
-Then reluctantly signs the deal negotiated to avoid another time consuming Gov. shutdown.
-Engages NE option for speed, meaning by the time it crawls through different courts after Democraps obstruction actions take effect, this will be quicker than waiting for next election in 2020.

Meanwhile Dems look the bad guys and gals in all of this and it will probably be passed in the Supreme Court with The Dons two new Supreme Court Justices tipping the balance in his favour.
Report cooperman February 16, 2019 12:25 AM GMT
Nancy in charge, Donny n retreat. Donny signs a deal giving him 275 million less than he could have had before the shutdown. It's a win win for Nancy.
Report stickyvicky February 16, 2019 12:37 AM GMT
Wall going up and Nancy caving on not a dollar for the wall. Its over Nancy
What has she left now ? Impeachment with no evidence of anything..LoL
I hear Roy Orbisons 'Its Over' wafting in the air
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKO_JRbcC04
Report boxingthefox February 16, 2019 12:58 AM GMT
Jesus H Christ, is this fckin thread still going,get a life you sad feckers.
Report stickyvicky February 16, 2019 1:07 AM GMT
^
We have a life, sorting out the world problems from our armchairs while at the same time hoping Watford beat QPR to turn a 20 quid profit.
Laugh
Report boxingthefox February 16, 2019 1:09 AM GMT
Fair enough, LaughLove
Report nellie1970 February 16, 2019 8:05 AM GMT
the clown calls an emergency when saying i do not not need to do it just want it done quicklyCry.President Hannity will be proud as i predicted earlier in the day another car crash presser if any proper journos were doing their jobs properly they would just all get up and and laugh at him on the way out of the rose garden
Report cooperman February 16, 2019 9:00 AM GMT
Mueller recommends 19 - 24 yrs in jail and $20m - $30m in fines and restitution for Manafort. Shocked
Report SontaranStratagem February 16, 2019 9:12 AM GMT
Any proper journos would ask the obvious question

"why are you calling an emergency then?"

This can't be done quickly as it just isn't realistic to build a wall across the whole country ffs, they are all living in cloud coo coo land Trumpies

Trump uses bullying tactics when getting pressed on anything, the waste of space would get one planted right on his chin in the real world

As for the Mueller probe who the hell is still watching that? all this evidence, all these "witnesses" and then they can't get the clown

Its a joke
Report SontaranStratagem February 16, 2019 9:14 AM GMT
Trump acts like the little twerp you see mouthing off in the street, once getting confronted the little twerp backs off

Only in this world Trump gets to do and say as he pleases because its all one big circus freak show
Report cooperman February 16, 2019 9:29 AM GMT
You're right SS in what you say but he has a large gang in the Senate backing him up in all the madness.
Report Facts February 16, 2019 9:42 AM GMT
That support from Republicans is rapidly disappearing now Trump has blurted ' I didn't have to do this '
Utter cretin.
Report cooperman February 16, 2019 9:49 AM GMT
Laugh It's like calling 911 and saying there's no rush.
Report nellie1970 February 16, 2019 10:16 AM GMT
only saving grace for the clown is the Dems seem to be getting even crazier than Trump.Green deal,Green deal.Mitch says he will take the green deal to the floor in the Senate but Chuck not happy with thatLaughi wonder why?

AOC starting a fifteen city tour plus 50 state tour to build political and public appeal for a green new deal.Hope she is using green energy on her tour.
Report cooperman February 16, 2019 10:56 AM GMT
SCO state a search warrant has provided evidence of direct communications between Roger Stone and Wikileaks, Roger Stone and Guccifer 2.0, Roger Stone and GRU operatives already indicted by Mueller's team.
Report stickyvicky February 16, 2019 12:25 PM GMT
^
Laugh
Roger Stone and Wikileaks - nothing illegal in that
Roger Stone and Guccifer 2.0 - Guccifer is Romanian not Russian
Roger Stone and GRU operatives - Putin offered these people to Bob to be interviewed...Still Radio silence from Bob on this generous offer to this day
Report edy February 16, 2019 1:46 PM GMT
Heard Guccifer and Guccifer 2.0 aren't exactly the same. That's probably why one has 2.0 in the name.
Report cooperman February 16, 2019 1:53 PM GMT
Roger Stone and Wikileaks - nothing illegal in that Laugh Doesn't surprise anyone that a Trump sycophant either doesn't understand, or chooses to ignore, the law regarding the publication of stolen documents. BlushBlushBlush
Report northanlite February 16, 2019 1:59 PM GMT
it has gone from nothing happened at all ever to...... well it did but so what to...... prove it!
Report dr . atkins February 16, 2019 2:07 PM GMT
the trouble is trump lives in trump world so it's impossible to know what he going to do and in trump world trump is the dictator but in the real world he's the president plus in trump world he is the world poker champion but in the real world he is the biggest fish you could meet
Report SontaranStratagem February 16, 2019 2:09 PM GMT
He will never see a prison cell

Some of the lower key characters will but none of the big sharks
Report northanlite February 16, 2019 2:12 PM GMT
^ tends to be the way of it.
i think what dr atkins has diagnosed is extreme narcissism
Report stickyvicky February 16, 2019 2:55 PM GMT
the law regarding the publication of stolen documents.

Err, Wikileaks the clue is in the title, nothing stolen hth
Report cooperman February 16, 2019 3:20 PM GMT
They were hacked by Russians and fed through Wikileaks. What part of stolen do you not understand? Sticky's report card - Must try harder. 0/10
Report stickyvicky February 16, 2019 3:23 PM GMT
^
What were please ? Just to be clear
Report dave1357 February 16, 2019 5:36 PM GMT
In Netyksho, eleven Russian military officers are charged by indictment with, inter alia,
conspiring to hack into the computers of U.S. persons and entities involved in the 2016 U.S.
presidential election, steal documents from those computers, and stage releases of the stolen
documents to interfere with the 2016 U.S. presidential election


https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5740797/2-15-19-US-Stone-Related-Case.pdf
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Report stickyvicky February 16, 2019 5:39 PM GMT
^
And wikileaks where do they come into it, please ?
Report dave1357 February 16, 2019 5:43 PM GMT
As part of their efforts to stage the
release of the stolen documents for purposes of election interference, the Netyksho indictment
alleges that the defendants arranged to release through Organization 1 some of the documents they
stole, including documents from the Democratic National Committee (“DNC”) and the personal
emails of the Clinton campaign chairman. Id. ¶ 7. Certain Netyksho defendants, through a
fictitious online persona they created, Guccifer 2.0, also interacted directly with Stone concerning
other stolen materials posted separately online.
Report stickyvicky February 16, 2019 5:48 PM GMT
^
And wikileaks ?
Report Ibrahima Sonko February 16, 2019 5:57 PM GMT
I'm loving the dons latest tweet Grin
Report stickyvicky February 16, 2019 6:18 PM GMT
'Last ISIS Black flags being removed in Syria as I speak today'...Mike Pence speaking in Munich today at Security Summit.

________

Ahh shucks, Illinois mass shooting yesterday caused by black shooter, nothing to see here by biased main stream media, move on.
Report dave1357 February 16, 2019 6:26 PM GMT

Feb 16, 2019 -- 11:48AM, stickyvicky wrote:


^And wikileaks ?


Organization 1

Report cooperman February 16, 2019 6:38 PM GMT
Stone has been charged with making false statements (with regard to Organization 1) and witness tampering by Mueller. Nobody charged by Mueller has been found not guilty. No doubt sticky will issue a full apology following Stone's conviction and with humility beg forgiveness from those of us on here that have taught him a lesson.
Report Pokermonster February 16, 2019 6:47 PM GMT
From The Nation.

There was no hack of the Democratic National Committee’s system on July 5 2016 - not by the Russians, not by anyone else. Hard science now demonstrates it was a leak - a download executed locally with a memory key or a similarly portable data-storage device. In short, it was an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system. This casts serious doubt on the initial “hack,” as alleged, that led to the very consequential publication of a large store of documents on WikiLeaks.

Forensic investigations of documents made public two weeks prior to the July 5 leak by the person or entity known as Guccifer 2.0 show that they were fraudulent: Before Guccifer posted them they were adulterated by cutting and pasting them into a blank template that had Russian as its default language. Guccifer took responsibility on June 15 for an intrusion the DNC reported on June 14 and professed to be a WikiLeaks source - claims essential to the official narrative implicating Russia in what was soon cast as an extensive hacking operation. To put the point simply, forensic science now devastates this narrative.
Report dave1357 February 16, 2019 6:53 PM GMT
drivel
Report boxingthefox February 16, 2019 6:55 PM GMT
is there no end to this man's chicanery and attention grabbing, he's now trying to infiltrate young minds, AngryAngry......Nellie the elephant packed her trunk and said goodbye to the circus
Off she went with a trumpety trump
Trump trump trump.
Report Pokermonster February 16, 2019 7:04 PM GMT
Media Bias Fact Check rate The Nation as follows:

Overall, we rate The Nation Left Biased due to story choices and wording that favor the left and factually high based on proper sourcing.

Factual Reporting: HIGH
Country: USA
World Press Freedom Rank: USA 45/180

A factual search reveals The Nation has not failed a fact check and in general produces well written journalism that is factual and well sourced.
Report dave1357 February 16, 2019 7:08 PM GMT
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/346468-why-the-latest-theory-about-the-dnc-not-being-a-hack-is-probably-wrong
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Report edy February 16, 2019 7:10 PM GMT
Why not mention the editor's note/update that is given along with the text, which is from 2017, that you quoted, Pokermonster?

A note that contains these passage (among others)

We have obtained such a review in the last week from Nathan Freitas of the Guardian Project. He has evaluated both the VIPS memo and Lawrence’s article. Freitas lays out several scenarios in which the DNC could have been hacked from the outside, although he does not rule out a leak. Freitas concludes that all parties “must exercise much greater care in separating out statements backed by available digital metadata from thoughtful insights and educated guesses.” His findings are published here.

We have also learned since publication, from longtime VIPS member Thomas Drake, that there is a dispute among VIPS members themselves about the July 24 memo. This is not the first time a VIPS report has been internally disputed, but it is the first time one has been released over the substantive objections of several VIPS members. With that in mind, we asked Drake and those VIPS members who agree with him to present their dissenting view. We also asked VIPS members who stand by their report to respond.

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/

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Report Pokermonster February 16, 2019 7:14 PM GMT
Yes, that's fine, Mr E. :)

No problem with anything and everything being printed in full. To answer your question: I'm using a mobile phone and copying large reports which are interspersed with multiple photographs and advertisements is tricky, so I just pasted the part I wished to highlight.
Report dave1357 February 16, 2019 7:16 PM GMT
so I just pasted the part I wished to believe

fixed
Report Pokermonster February 16, 2019 7:16 PM GMT
Rather like you have done yourself, sir. :)
Report edy February 16, 2019 7:16 PM GMT
Isn't it kind of important though to mention if the publishers themselves put doubt on the content?
Report edy February 16, 2019 7:17 PM GMT
there are links in that editor's note btw. to Freitas'report, and the dissenting view of e.g Drake that are mentioned. On the page I linked to.
Report dave1357 February 16, 2019 7:18 PM GMT
Pokermonster • February 16, 2019 7:16 PM GMT
Rather like you have done yourself, sir. :)


No pokermonster I looked into the issue last year, initially believing the reports. I subsequently read multiple debunks of the theory, obviously ignored by the derposphere.
Report Pokermonster February 16, 2019 7:19 PM GMT
Yes, of course, sir. And you have done just that. Interested parties can review the entire article and decide for themselves who to believe.

It was ever thus.
Report Pokermonster February 16, 2019 7:19 PM GMT
I was referring to Edy, Dave.
Report Pokermonster February 16, 2019 7:20 PM GMT
Your post just happened to jump in between as I was posting.
Report stickyvicky February 16, 2019 8:19 PM GMT
@6.26pm
Organization 1

Organisation 1 widely believed to be wikileaks got Guccifers hacks from his public releases to his Wordpress blog and did not 'steal' these hacks as coop stated.hth.
Report dave1357 February 16, 2019 8:20 PM GMT
As part of their efforts to stage the
release of the stolen documents for purposes of election interference, the Netyksho indictment
alleges that the defendants arranged to release through Organization 1 some of the documents they
stole,
Report stickyvicky February 16, 2019 8:26 PM GMT
Already released on Guccifers public blog on the internet.
Report edy February 16, 2019 8:33 PM GMT
Further distribution of stolen material doesn't make the material unstolen.

If Individual 1 steals your nude snapchats and posts them on his personal blog, then Organisation 1 reposting them still means they are posting stolen material, albeit the postings being in the public interest because they're incredibly hot.
Report dave1357 February 16, 2019 8:37 PM GMT
stolen documents

the documents they stole
Report stickyvicky February 16, 2019 8:39 PM GMT
Its public information on the internet, copied and pasted not stolen by the copy and paster.
Did Guccifer have his blog, subscribed and blocked ?.
Sounds odd if you have the biggest hack of the year and then hide it for a handful of people to access it, defeats the purposes really.
Report edy February 16, 2019 8:41 PM GMT
That's why Guccifer 2.0 potentially, hypothetically, in theory might've maybe collaborated with Roger Stone and wikipedia.
Report edy February 16, 2019 8:43 PM GMT
and wikileaks too
Report stickyvicky February 16, 2019 8:45 PM GMT
Oh, back to hypothosis again.
I seek to strike out the case M'lud
Report stickyvicky February 16, 2019 8:54 PM GMT

Feb 16, 2019 -- 12:38PM, cooperman wrote:


Stone has been charged with making false statements (with regard to Organization 1) and witness tampering by Mueller. Nobody charged by Mueller has been found not guilty. No doubt sticky will issue a full apology following Stone's conviction and with humility beg forgiveness from those of us on here that have taught him a lesson.


Stone is another low hanging fruit pickrd off by Bob.
Sarah Huckerbee Sanders has already said the Stone arrest has nothing at all to do with the Whitehouse Adminstration.
He doesn't even qualify as a Trump foot solider.

Report edy February 16, 2019 9:00 PM GMT
I like Huckabee Sanders and the job she does at the White House Happy
Report dr . atkins February 16, 2019 9:19 PM GMT
trump is the nearest the u.s.a have had to a dictator the irony is if trump was a dictator in a middle east country the americans would be doing their best to oust him crazy world
Report dr . atkins February 16, 2019 9:21 PM GMT
anyone else think trump and kim jong-un are very like in their thinking they behave just like spoilt children
Report stickyvicky February 16, 2019 9:30 PM GMT
^
I don't think The Don has had any close relatives killed by a pack of hungry hounds or has fired nuclear capable rockets over his near neighbours countries recently.
So no, I don't see any similarities myself.
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