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Mystic Wind
08 Dec 17 19:29
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He may not have the 'sex appeal' of something trained by Mullins or Nicholls, but SUSSEX RANGER put up a very good performance today, giving weight and a sound beating to a couple of horses rated 90+ on the flat. The time of the race was decent and he looks to have a bit of scope for improvement too. The trainer seemed a bit conservative after the race, mentioning the Fred Winter as a likely target, but I suspect that once Phil Smith and the boys in Halifax have run their rule over today's run he might realise the horse is up to Triumph standard.

2pts win Sussex Ranger @ 33/1
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Report harry callaghan February 21, 2018 6:55 PM GMT
i don't really get that, could of run in the adonis, anyway he ran ok but not sure what he achieved and how many triumph winners ran in a kempton handicap before winning the race, so not sure i'll be interested in playing him now, will have to have a ponder
Report Quevega06 February 21, 2018 6:57 PM GMT
To keep his handicap mark for the Fred. Currently he's run 3 times with a mark of 142
Report harry callaghan February 21, 2018 7:08 PM GMT
off a mark of 142? don't really see that myself but up to you if you think that is feasible
Report Quevega06 February 21, 2018 7:16 PM GMT
I wouldn't bet it myself just expressing my opinion as to why it run on the flat with three runs over hurdles already
Report Quevega06 February 21, 2018 7:16 PM GMT
Divin Bere was second last yr off 139 I think
Report harry callaghan February 21, 2018 9:45 PM GMT
so if that is the reason he ran on the flat, you do think a mark of 142 is feasible?
Report Quevega06 February 21, 2018 11:27 PM GMT
Harry imo i don't think he's good enough for the Triumph so if the trainers thoughts are the same why run in an Adonis maybe come 2nd or 3rd and get a lb or 2 for it or give the horse a spin on the flat. I really don't see it as a negative,although it does depend what way you look at it
Report Quevega06 February 21, 2018 11:29 PM GMT
I have bet Kurka for the Fred Winter and he ran lto at Dundalk instead of taking on Mr Adjudicator & Farclas do i see this as a negitive towards my bet? Not I'm the slightest
Report Quevega06 February 21, 2018 11:29 PM GMT
In
Report Deptford February 22, 2018 8:48 PM GMT
Redicean out Saturday
Report buddeliea February 23, 2018 12:30 PM GMT
yep, I shall be there to see the Triumph winner.........hopefully!!
Report the bloob February 24, 2018 2:40 PM GMT
that hasn't been a great race for providing Triumph winners lately, but that was mightily impressive! Redicean has shown at least as much as Apples Shakira and is available at more than double the price
Report Deptford February 24, 2018 2:44 PM GMT
Very happy with that, and today has paid for everything
Report impossible123 February 24, 2018 3:25 PM GMT
I was impressed with Redicean. Not sure what he'd beaten nevertheless, I liked the way he scooted to the line full of running; his jumping had improved a lot too.

A serious challenger to Apple's Shakira? I hope so.
Report Callisto-moon February 24, 2018 4:29 PM GMT
Apples is a decent lay in this.
yes she has course form but think there are a couple of credible challengers now.
Report Ramruma February 24, 2018 7:21 PM GMT
Apple's Shakira is certainly opposable but is she really (to quote @Callisto-moon) "a decent lay"? She deserves to be favourite and 11/4 or 3/1 is not outrageously short imo. If the Fred Winter shows that the Irish juveniles are far better than the home team, or far worse, then things may look different on the day.
Report Callisto-moon February 24, 2018 10:48 PM GMT
we all value decent differently.
Plenty to oppose her with.
Not at all suggesting she has no chance but think she shone early
and now others are throwing their hat in the ring.
Report ACStafford February 24, 2018 11:44 PM GMT
Redicean looked a class act there to me. I'd make him challenging for favouritism in my book.
Report buddeliea February 25, 2018 7:03 AM GMT
Yeh,hes very good.Jumped better than last time i saw him and showed that turn of foot again.
Think the 2nd could be pretty useful as well given time.
Great day out,bl00dy cold though,but the sun was out and Redicean certainly warmed me up.
Buveur Dair and Might Bite worked after racing which was a bonus,and got some nice photos for my collection.

All for a fiver.....cant be bad.
Report BigField February 25, 2018 1:34 PM GMT
was only a fiver to get in Kempton yesterday? I would have gone had I known!
Report impossible123 February 25, 2018 4:17 PM GMT
Redicean has more gears than Katchit, according his his trainer Alan King. Let's hope he's right (I'm on), and I've not had a "proper" Triumph winner since Mysilv, Oh So Risky and Kribensis - yes, it is that looooong.

6/1 (here) but generally 5/1 with most bookies.
Report ACStafford February 25, 2018 6:37 PM GMT
I think we've already seen he has more gears that Katchit.
Report ACStafford February 25, 2018 6:37 PM GMT
*than
Report RozelKid February 25, 2018 6:40 PM GMT

Feb 25, 2018 -- 10:17AM, impossible123 wrote:


Redicean has more gears than Katchit, according his his trainer Alan King. Let's hope he's right (I'm on), and I've not had a "proper" Triumph winner since Mysilv, Oh So Risky and Kribensis - yes, it is that looooong.6/1 (here) but generally 5/1 with most bookies.


Dont think I've seen another horse finish a race so quick this season . 6/1 on Redicean looks smart EW bet

Report buddeliea February 26, 2018 8:00 AM GMT
Bigfield
Was £20 on the day, but the owners of Kempton and Sandown send me occasional e-mails offering tickets for a fiver.
Got one for the last meeting when Redicean won,one for Saturday,and got another for the Sandown meeting the Saturday before Cheltenham.
Loads of people had them Saturday,so guess you just have to get on their e-mail list.
Report impossible123 February 28, 2018 9:55 AM GMT
Redicean is attracting a lot of supporters here but I'm also looking for a serious saver (a winner). Is Apple's Shakira the real deal? 3/1 (nrnb) is a bit skinny...the 7lbs mares allowance is attractive though.
Report buddeliea February 28, 2018 12:10 PM GMT
You know as much as anyone else on here,take 3's if you fancy the horse.
Tough race as always.
Report Sankara February 28, 2018 12:30 PM GMT
He definitely doesn't.
Report Callisto-moon February 28, 2018 12:34 PM GMT
ive laid apples the price is too skinny for me.
Report impossible123 February 28, 2018 4:12 PM GMT
Her price is extremely punitive for what she's done. I think that is mainly to do with being in the care of Hendo otherwise a more accurate price would be nearer 8/1. Maybe I need to play in-running for a bigger price.
Report morpteh mackem March 8, 2018 3:35 PM GMT
ttt, thread was in danger of getting lost going on to 3rd page.
no news on race so hope didnt scare anyone opening thread. Grin
Report unclepuncle March 12, 2018 12:54 PM GMT
We Have A Dream out of the Triumph.CryCryCry
Report unclepuncle March 12, 2018 5:51 PM GMT
Much to my delight I was able to cash out my stake with B365 so no harm done.
Have switched to Farclas now.
Report BigField March 12, 2018 7:06 PM GMT
:( :( :( :( :( :( typical
Report Giddy March 13, 2018 2:01 AM GMT
Looks like Redicean has been sold. Must have changed hands for a nice few quid
Report impossible123 March 15, 2018 7:14 PM GMT
Apple's Shakira is hot, hot hot but Redicean is on the drift, I wonder why.
Report gpz6316 March 15, 2018 11:43 PM GMT
i d be very surprised if apples shakira can beat redicean . hes very powerful , i know he doesnt have requisite course or going form . power gets you through bad ground and he has the most of it and speed to boot .
Report kavvie March 15, 2018 11:58 PM GMT
gears away.stormy ireland will be that far ahead of them it will be  race for 2nd
Report Big Black Cat March 16, 2018 10:53 AM GMT
Redicean very impressive last time out and King knows whats needed to win the race.
Report impossible123 March 16, 2018 11:07 AM GMT
I hope Redicean can do the business for King as he could do with a winner!

Apple's Shakira is as short as 11/10, crass or JP's money?
Report DECALEC March 16, 2018 11:56 AM GMT
Cash out with 365 was only available on nrnb race's for me,a/p no cash out available you must be the only 1 uncle
Report buddeliea March 16, 2018 12:13 PM GMT
Just had another nibble at 8/1 Redicean.
He just could be something special,just hope the ground dont stop him!!
Report BornToWin March 16, 2018 12:14 PM GMT
I cashed this one out with them. Who needs 10k when 17 squid is a profit Laugh

Bet Confirmation - SB2061632521I - Internet
Time of bet: 13/11/2017 22:06:41
No.
Selections
Event
Event Date
E/W Terms
Odds
Result
1
Buveur D'air
Champion Hurdle
(Win And Each Way)
13/03/2018
3 Places
1/4 Odds
7/2
Won
2
Presenting Percy
RSA Chase
(Win And Each Way)
14/03/2018
3 Places
1/4 Odds
14/1
Won
3
Disko
Cheltenham Gold Cup
(Win And Each Way)
16/03/2018
3 Places
1/4 Odds
25/1
Lost

Multiples
Bet Type
No.of Bets
Unit Stake
Total Stake
To Return
Return
E/W Trebles
1
5.00
10.00

17.24
Stake:  10.00   Return:  17.24
Report BornToWin March 16, 2018 12:17 PM GMT
Redicean for me as well, impressed with all his runs. Moves like an animal with plenty more in the tank.

Has hacked up on heavy at Kempton and won on soft, plus the poor skint bookies need this jolly downed.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! March 16, 2018 1:40 PM GMT
Farclas wins

Bugger


Cry
Report unclepuncle March 16, 2018 1:44 PM GMT
Boom.Cool
Report Willie Shafter. August 10, 2018 7:08 PM BST
[color=sky blue] yesterday [/color]
Report Willie Shafter. August 10, 2018 7:08 PM BST
[color=light blue] ruryrtgsbnw [/color]
Report Willie Shafter. August 10, 2018 7:08 PM BST
kdjdhdh
Report unclepuncle August 19, 2018 4:13 PM BST
Don't fancy that at all Willie.Laugh
Report Quevega06 November 5, 2018 9:46 PM GMT
Jack Regan must be interesting at a price,early days like
Report joevalue147 November 5, 2018 10:16 PM GMT
Jack Regan done it nicely at Market Rasen Quevega06 but i really think the UK 3 year old form is very average so far. Cracker Factory is way down the pecking order as a possible Truimph Hurdle winner.  Coeur Sublime has a lot to learn about jumping but he has from now till March to perfect it.  He has a massive engine and a real grinding type with a touch of class. I think the truimph is made for him.
Report Quevega06 November 5, 2018 10:44 PM GMT
I went to see him in the flesh on Saturday looks a smashing big thing - Long way 2 go but I'm still happy to have a little punt @ 66s for Jack
Report joevalue147 November 5, 2018 10:46 PM GMT
Wouldnt put you off.  Seems overpriced at 66s alright.  Do you think there is any juice in Coeur Sublimes price?
Report Quevega06 November 5, 2018 10:54 PM GMT
16s at this time of year seems about right after his first run,a rave they targeted for mega fortune last yr in same colours
Report Quevega06 November 5, 2018 10:54 PM GMT
Elliott seems to do well with the 3 yr olds so it'll be interesting to see if he's anything else over the next month or two..
Report joevalue147 November 5, 2018 11:12 PM GMT
Yeah i think he might be a bit classier than Mega Fortune(rip). If he improve like Mega Fortune did then he'll be some tool.
Report Can't Catch Me November 7, 2018 9:36 PM GMT
Can’t believe Adjali is still 33/1.

His French form keeps getting boosts. Quel Destin did it nicely on debut and Adjali has beaten him comfortably twice. Crazy that QD is shorter in the market just because he’s run here imo.
Report deepingfox November 7, 2018 10:14 PM GMT
CCM, Adjali is closely related to top class flat horse too, is he coming to Britain, or still trained in France?
Report Can't Catch Me November 7, 2018 10:41 PM GMT
Already with NJH mate.
Report Can't Catch Me November 7, 2018 10:42 PM GMT
Not a bad place to be for a top juvenile!
Report deepingfox November 8, 2018 1:14 PM GMT
Have you found any Adjali race videos, of his 3 runs in France?

If he won a hurdle race in April does he still qualify for the Triumph Hurdle?
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! December 2, 2018 12:54 PM GMT
Cracker Factory gets an Irish boost
50-1

Seems a bit wrong currently

Devil
Report Can't Catch Me December 6, 2018 12:25 PM GMT
Very nice debut from Adjali there. The Triumph has a new fav Grin
Report shockster December 7, 2018 1:30 PM GMT
Torpilo has now thrown his hat into the mix.  Very good at Sandown.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! December 26, 2018 5:31 PM GMT
Irish form is all over the place
Tomorrow could clarify the situation

Laugh
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! December 27, 2018 12:26 PM GMT
Sir Eric narrowly wins
Not for me

Wink
Report sageform December 27, 2018 1:41 PM GMT
Quel Destin wins again. Great little jumper and tough as nails.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! December 27, 2018 1:46 PM GMT
the winner has yet to make a START

Grin
Report sageform December 31, 2018 8:03 PM GMT
To answer the question earlier about Adjali, the Triumph is for 4yos, not novice hurdlers. They can have won hurdle races as 2yo's and still qualify. I remember way back when Jim Old had the favourite for the race in Cima and we were confident that it would beat all of the UK opposition but it was beaten by a horse from France called Shiny Copper that had been hurdling since the previous March.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! January 26, 2019 12:59 PM GMT
Think the winner just romped in at Chelters

Made his debut Jan 5

Grin
Report Deptford January 26, 2019 1:48 PM GMT
Wants soft ground I reckon
Report unclepuncle January 26, 2019 3:59 PM GMT
Was surely just a sighter for Sir Eric - he’ll be different gravy imo.
Report Middle_Of_March January 28, 2019 11:49 AM GMT
Imo the winner has already beaten the favourite who romped in Saturday.

Not ran in UK yet. With Nichols.
Report topshot January 28, 2019 12:04 PM GMT
Oohhh you devil MOM!! Are you trying to start a plunge on here too.....
Report differentdrum January 28, 2019 2:25 PM GMT
Pic D'Orhy for those who prefer less of the cloak and dagger.

At a guess Saturday's winner has probably improved since they met. You would just be hoping that the French form is better than Irish/English form.

According to the going reports has never run on anything quicker than very soft.

Best priced 16/1 and never any bigger than 20/1 so hardly a monster gamble thus far.
Report NOW WE KNOW January 28, 2019 2:42 PM GMT
Very keen on Laskadine. The Warwick win was workmanlike but he could improve dramatically for his next run. He jumped in the way some French recruits do first time here but settled and stayed. Suspect the next run could place him near the front of the market.
Report Deptford February 3, 2019 1:22 PM GMT
Very very impressive
Report NOW WE KNOW February 3, 2019 2:49 PM GMT
Yes, think Laskerdine may go the FW route
Report impossible123 February 3, 2019 4:43 PM GMT
Vert impressive indeed. Shame I took no interest until today as I'm no great fan of The Triumph; good Flat pedigree, and 3rd to Stradivarius. This race is his only entry t the Festival. And I think he'll be a significantly shorter on the day, and probably considered an Irish banker at the Festival; his stablemate the impressive winner of the Trial at Cheltenham Fakir D'oudairies could be re-routed to the Supreme given the same ownership as he's more than one entries.
Report Mystic Wind February 3, 2019 6:17 PM GMT
Fakir D'Oudairies is not owned by JP to the best of my knowledge, he might still be re-routed though. Interesting that he got multiple entries but Sir Erec got just the one.
Report joevalue147 February 3, 2019 7:40 PM GMT
jj Slevin said he'd have no issue taking Sir Erec on in March so they'll obviously be taking each other on.   Sir Erec wont be much, if any shorter on the day.  Antepost gone ta ****.
Report maelduin February 4, 2019 5:39 PM GMT
Sir Erec now 9/4 here.

Hugely impressive run on Sunday and gave the impression he would devour the Cheltenham hill. We're badly in need of some top notch novices so hoping he will be it.
Report impossible123 February 4, 2019 5:58 PM GMT
Sir Erec ran Stradivarius to 2.5l in the Long Distance Cup at Ascot, and finished infront of Flag Of Honour winner of the Irish St Leger. How did I miss 25/1 for him?
Report maelduin February 4, 2019 6:42 PM GMT
"Sir Erec ran Stradivarius to 2.5l in the Long Distance Cup at Ascot, and finished infront of Flag Of Honour winner of the Irish St Leger. How did I miss 25/1 for him?"

Remember HousesofParliament and Sword Fighter? Seldom do highly rated flat horses transfer their class to jumping. I remember JOB sent a bunch of them to Enda Bolger for schooling and the majority of them didn't even make it to the track. Sir Erec looks a natural though. Fingers crossed he develops into a top 2 miler.
Report johnslad February 5, 2019 1:06 PM GMT
maelduin
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"Sir Erec ran Stradivarius to 2.5l in the Long Distance Cup at Ascot, and finished infront of Flag Of Honour winner of the Irish St Leger. How did I miss 25/1 for him?"

Remember HousesofParliament and Sword Fighter? Seldom do highly rated flat horses transfer their class to jumping. I remember JOB sent a bunch of them to Enda Bolger for schooling and the majority of them didn't even make it to the track. Sir Erec looks a natural though. Fingers crossed he develops into a top 2 miler.
ye wouldn't have thought these would have wanted to go over the banks and end up the cross country or the la touche
Report johnslad February 5, 2019 1:08 PM GMT
impossible123
04 Feb 19 17:58
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Sir Erec ran Stradivarius to 2.5l in the Long Distance Cup at Ascot, and finished infront of Flag Of Honour winner of the Irish St Leger. How did I miss 25/1 for him?
am sure many posters could think of a reason for that
Report impossible123 February 5, 2019 1:23 PM GMT
Indeed. I remember that year well; I was on Landofhopeandglory, Housesofparliament and one another who did not make it to the racecourse despite running in a Derby Trial. But Sir Erec (SE) did win 1st time out, and was fav after, only usurped by SE after FD won impressively at Cheltenham.

I think SE and FD could turn out to be horses to be reckoned with over hurdles and fences in the future. Both have been promising so far.
Report maelduin February 6, 2019 2:08 PM GMT
6/4 now after the JP buying Fakir news.
Report NOW WE KNOW February 15, 2019 6:35 PM GMT
Interesting race for Laskadine tommorow at Haydock. 3 furlongs further and up against her elders. Snapped up all the 25s plus for the Triumph and now 55!!Hopefully she will bolt up as I think her stamina might still make her competetive in the Triumph.
Report buddeliea February 16, 2019 1:05 PM GMT
that was nice from quel distin.i like him.
improving with every race which is just want you want.
visually impressive,even if opposition werent great.
Report impossible123 February 16, 2019 1:19 PM GMT
Another boost to the form of Fakir D'oudaries who brushed aside Adjali (just touched-off by Quel Distin) easily.
Report buddeliea February 16, 2019 1:21 PM GMT
Well ive missed the fav,but happy with QD to take him on with.
Report impossible123 February 16, 2019 1:27 PM GMT
I missed the juicy prices of Sir Erec but do have Fakir D'oudaries 12/1 (nrnb) for this; the latter is my main bet for The Supreme at 20 with 'Match****'.
Report buddeliea February 16, 2019 1:30 PM GMT
Nice Imp,i got 16 QD.
Will possibly have a look for another near the day.
Report impossible123 February 21, 2019 2:00 PM GMT
I think the interview with JOB spoke volume today. Joseph said: "It makes sense to separate them but Frank Berry and JP will make the decision."

Fakir D'oudaries is this way bound then. By the way is Al Dancer justified to be such short price fav despite winning the Betfair easily? What did he beat?
Report impossible123 February 22, 2019 5:41 PM GMT
Sir Erec (6/4) is very short for this. Is he passed the post already even before more JP money on race day? He'd easily go odds-on if JP indulges further.
Report duffy February 23, 2019 2:37 PM GMT
Very impressive from from Fusil Raffles today, a very big danger to Sir Erec, and the ownership can run the horse that led today to try and pester SE up front in an attempt to mess up his jumping that was atrocious on debut when he raced in amongst horses.
Report resner not lesnar February 23, 2019 2:49 PM GMT
Looked good, hard to tell what he’s best though. Also looked to have a nasty cut on his back leg which could take some healing
Report differentdrum February 23, 2019 6:44 PM GMT
Personally, I thought crossing the line he looked a massive danger to the favourite. Travelled well, jumped very well and quickened up nicely. Hard to fault. Clearly the favourite has a big engine but his jumping is a work in progress and he had the run of the race last time. Get a couple wrong at the Festival and it could suddenly become very hard work.

All of that thrown up in the air by the cut. He wasn't obviously lame after the race but presumably the next couple of days will be crucial as to whether he makes the race. A real shame if he doesn't.
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