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Mystic Wind
08 Dec 17 19:29
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He may not have the 'sex appeal' of something trained by Mullins or Nicholls, but SUSSEX RANGER put up a very good performance today, giving weight and a sound beating to a couple of horses rated 90+ on the flat. The time of the race was decent and he looks to have a bit of scope for improvement too. The trainer seemed a bit conservative after the race, mentioning the Fred Winter as a likely target, but I suspect that once Phil Smith and the boys in Halifax have run their rule over today's run he might realise the horse is up to Triumph standard.

2pts win Sussex Ranger @ 33/1
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Report Mystic Wind January 14, 2018 8:32 PM GMT
Hi Q, I'd be surprised if GM had one better than SR, but thanks all the same.
Report Quevega06 January 15, 2018 8:00 PM GMT
Report Quevega06 January 15, 2018 8:00 PM GMT
Willies festival hopes
Report Lady Margaret January 16, 2018 10:22 PM GMT
Have backed Stormy Ireland e/w at 12/1 after the nod from someone with good contacts to the Mullins yard who told me to get on Total Recall for the Ladbroke
Report Quevega06 January 16, 2018 11:00 PM GMT
I'm hearing good reports also. I bet Farclas as I think it'll get alot closer to Espoir if not beat it nto.
Report ReaseHeath January 17, 2018 12:04 AM GMT
The horse Gary Moore was talking about must be Et Moi Alors now entered in the first at Ascot on Saturday. I think what he said was tongue in cheek and he was winding Nick Luck up a bit but he said Sussex Ranger was the best one he'd run so far and he only had one more left to run but could n't remember it's name because it was French!

The Ascot race is probably worth keeping an eye on - previous winners include Binocular, Zaynar, Grandouet, Balder Succes and Top Notch (although Henderson does n't have an entry this year).

Nayati is entered up for Alan King (Moore should have a line on that one through Kapdad) and Oistrakh Le Noir could be interesting for Ben Pauling, Munir and Souede.
Report DontBeSakhee January 20, 2018 12:59 PM GMT
I backed Et Moi today and for the Triumph. I can get my money back with B365. What's people's thought on that? Probably would've won had it stood up, but was that Triumph form?
Report Callisto-moon January 20, 2018 1:25 PM GMT
moores ones a superstar.
Report BigField January 20, 2018 2:06 PM GMT
Yeah most likely would have won, not sure it would have beaten much - though the ground was testing so could well improve for better ground and experience.
Report DontBeSakhee January 20, 2018 3:39 PM GMT
Had a few winners today which has covered my outlay including the bet on Et Moi so no need to cash it out. Will keep it in case, it'll have to run again if they are planning on going to the Supreme, so will know my fate then.
Report buddeliea January 21, 2018 7:49 AM GMT
Just had another look at Redicean's latest race at Kempton.
Not the most fluent jumping at a couple,but dont think that will stop him running a big race in the Triumph.
Taken 10 nrnb,think thats fair odds,maybe slightly generous?.
Report Quevega06 January 21, 2018 8:59 AM GMT
Yeah I think you are right budd,looked to have some engine. Apple's Shakara aside he's the best of the English.
Report Deptford January 21, 2018 9:45 AM GMT
Agree^ he really impressed me, took the 10/1 nrnb
Report ReaseHeath January 21, 2018 12:30 PM GMT
I thought the race was difficult to get a handle on given the conditions and the unusual conclusion but what I would say is that Et Moi Alors looked a very impressive beast physically - also got to bear in mind that was his racecourse debut, no flat runs or hurdling experience in France...
Report DontBeSakhee January 21, 2018 4:54 PM GMT
So Rease, assuming all is well after the fall, where next? The Adonis? Win  that and he's in the mix!
Report ReaseHeath January 22, 2018 7:29 PM GMT
Not sure DBS - noticed watching replay today that he was down quite a long time after the fall (possibly winded) - Adonis is 5 weeks away I think?

Maybe they'll try to find a softer looking race to give him anice experience in if all is well...
Report DontBeSakhee January 22, 2018 11:03 PM GMT
True. I only had a speculative bet on him, but was reasonably impressed, shame the way the race ended as it would have been nice to see whether he would have extended away or whether he's a bridle horse and would have ground it out.

The Moore's are usually not bothered about missing Cheltenham I think, so they could put him away for next year possibly.

Although, I would add that although the Adonis is usually a hot race, it's also often a small field so it may be difficult, but wouldn't have the hustle and bustle of a weaker race with more runners?

Who knows, we'll have to wait and see.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! February 4, 2018 1:21 PM GMT
Espoir allen runs badly at Lepardstown

Report Giddy February 4, 2018 5:35 PM GMT
Alan King has a Highclere horse called Ballywood. Its won 2 out of 5 races in France. It will be out within the next 10 days and if all goes well, will go for The Triumph or The Fred Winter
He described it as a very exciting prospect
Report impossible123 February 4, 2018 10:24 PM GMT
Espoir D'Allen was too keen early on and did not show the form and beating he gave to Farclas (receiving 3lbs last time) but level weight today.
Report Quevega06 February 4, 2018 11:15 PM GMT
Espoir was really disappointing today. Once he was beat Barry went easy
Report buddeliea February 5, 2018 7:58 AM GMT
Put a line through ED imo, a juvenile horse cannot do that and then have enough at the end.
Report BigField February 5, 2018 4:39 PM GMT
We Have A Dream certainly still in with a shout for me - going to hedge my bet on him with a Apples Shakira/Samcro/Bouveur Deir treble but will wait til closer to the time as their odds won't change much before then
Report impossible123 February 5, 2018 5:43 PM GMT
Espoir D'Allen, in the same ownership as the fav Apples Shakira, has taken a walk in the market - participation in doubt?
Report BigField February 5, 2018 6:04 PM GMT
ability in doubt!
Report impossible123 February 5, 2018 6:18 PM GMT
Maybe not, he did beat the 2nd Farclas easily after settling early in the race unlike his latest run; 22 here is tempting but no insurance is a bit risky.
Report BigField February 5, 2018 6:30 PM GMT
fair enough, i'm afraid I can't help you with regards to his liklehood of running, I still can't see past the top 2 in the betting though.
Report impossible123 February 5, 2018 6:55 PM GMT
I think the price and position of Apples Shakira in the betting market are mainly Hendo induced and the 7lbs allowance she receives from the others; her form is not earth shattering but she's the highest rated with Espoir D'Allen next best. I think We Have A Dream has better credential but Hendo trained too.
Report BigField February 5, 2018 8:09 PM GMT
I remember a few years ago I backed Hargam when Peace and Co won (have only been watching racing 5 or so years) - that race just sticks in my mind and if memory serves me right Hendo was keener on Peace and Co than Hargam (and I think Peace and Co was stronger in the market than Hargam throughout the year too) - that's the only reason I'm worried by Apples Shakira!
Report Deptford February 5, 2018 8:19 PM GMT
Report impossible123 February 5, 2018 8:20 PM GMT
Oh yes, it was 2015. Hendo had the 2nd Top Notch as well; Peace And Co, Top Notch and Hargam, a full house - I was on the 2nd. I think the ground just before racing did not go for Hargam.
Report BigField February 5, 2018 8:30 PM GMT
yes forgot about that, hargam always wanted quicker ground - ive been backing hargam every year at the festival since haha! I was sure there was a county or 2 and a half mile handicap win in him, but fear the horse just isn't good enough now!
Report BigField February 5, 2018 8:31 PM GMT
and yes redicean has looked impressive (especially last time) but just seems like hes been beating very average horses
Report buddeliea February 5, 2018 8:41 PM GMT
Redicean.....thats my boy!!
Report BigField February 5, 2018 8:47 PM GMT
I hope not lol :D
Report BigField February 5, 2018 8:48 PM GMT
what price you on? and is it e/w or win only?
Report buddeliea February 5, 2018 9:23 PM GMT
Sadly i only backed him after seeing him in his race at Kempton last time.
He gave me the same feeling i had when i saw Altior before his supreme.Doubt he will be as good thoughLaugh
Have 10 nrnb to win.
Report BigField February 5, 2018 10:10 PM GMT
10s still a nice price and at least it's NRNB! The bet on WHAD for me is win only too, go hard or go home mate :D
Report buddeliea February 6, 2018 7:38 AM GMT
Well I think hes one of a few with a fair chance,yours looks good as well mate.
Looks a good year for the Juveniles and a proper race to look forward to.
Report BigField February 6, 2018 3:46 PM GMT
indeed a very competitive race, great for the spectator but squeaky bum time for us that've had a punt lol
Report monksland February 12, 2018 5:50 PM GMT
Not often Mullins grade one winner.. Unbeaten over hurdles available at 7/1.
Report maelduin February 12, 2018 6:42 PM GMT
Don't forget WPM also has the filly Stormy Ireland. No mention of why she missed Leopardstown but sounds like all systems go for Cheltenham.
Report Quevega06 February 12, 2018 8:54 PM GMT
For me Farclas still. Wasn't 100% ready for last week
Report impossible123 February 12, 2018 11:31 PM GMT
Espoir Dallen to show his true form, I hope.
Report Giddy February 14, 2018 12:18 PM GMT
Ballywood runs Sat 24th Feb at Kempton
Report Ramruma February 14, 2018 3:06 PM GMT
It still looks open -- nothing has emerged that looks head and shoulders above the rest.
Report BigField February 14, 2018 8:30 PM GMT
bit frustrating having my biggest antepost bet turn out to look like its in the most competitive graded race of the festival but oh well haha can't wait!!
Report impossible123 February 17, 2018 9:42 PM GMT
Espoir Dallen is still weak; he shares the same owner as Apple's Shakira the fav ie JP McManus; he's also entered for the Supreme.
Report harry callaghan February 21, 2018 6:44 PM GMT
sussex ranger running on the all weather in a minute, strange prep for triumph not sure i like it tbh...we will see
Report Quevega06 February 21, 2018 6:53 PM GMT
Who says he's going Triumph? I'd be more keen for the Fred
Report harry callaghan February 21, 2018 6:55 PM GMT
i don't really get that, could of run in the adonis, anyway he ran ok but not sure what he achieved and how many triumph winners ran in a kempton handicap before winning the race, so not sure i'll be interested in playing him now, will have to have a ponder
Report Quevega06 February 21, 2018 6:57 PM GMT
To keep his handicap mark for the Fred. Currently he's run 3 times with a mark of 142
Report harry callaghan February 21, 2018 7:08 PM GMT
off a mark of 142? don't really see that myself but up to you if you think that is feasible
Report Quevega06 February 21, 2018 7:16 PM GMT
I wouldn't bet it myself just expressing my opinion as to why it run on the flat with three runs over hurdles already
Report Quevega06 February 21, 2018 7:16 PM GMT
Divin Bere was second last yr off 139 I think
Report harry callaghan February 21, 2018 9:45 PM GMT
so if that is the reason he ran on the flat, you do think a mark of 142 is feasible?
Report Quevega06 February 21, 2018 11:27 PM GMT
Harry imo i don't think he's good enough for the Triumph so if the trainers thoughts are the same why run in an Adonis maybe come 2nd or 3rd and get a lb or 2 for it or give the horse a spin on the flat. I really don't see it as a negative,although it does depend what way you look at it
Report Quevega06 February 21, 2018 11:29 PM GMT
I have bet Kurka for the Fred Winter and he ran lto at Dundalk instead of taking on Mr Adjudicator & Farclas do i see this as a negitive towards my bet? Not I'm the slightest
Report Quevega06 February 21, 2018 11:29 PM GMT
Report Deptford February 22, 2018 8:48 PM GMT
Redicean out Saturday
Report buddeliea February 23, 2018 12:30 PM GMT
yep, I shall be there to see the Triumph winner.........hopefully!!
Report the bloob February 24, 2018 2:40 PM GMT
that hasn't been a great race for providing Triumph winners lately, but that was mightily impressive! Redicean has shown at least as much as Apples Shakira and is available at more than double the price
Report Deptford February 24, 2018 2:44 PM GMT
Very happy with that, and today has paid for everything
Report impossible123 February 24, 2018 3:25 PM GMT
I was impressed with Redicean. Not sure what he'd beaten nevertheless, I liked the way he scooted to the line full of running; his jumping had improved a lot too.

A serious challenger to Apple's Shakira? I hope so.
Report Callisto-moon February 24, 2018 4:29 PM GMT
Apples is a decent lay in this.
yes she has course form but think there are a couple of credible challengers now.
Report Ramruma February 24, 2018 7:21 PM GMT
Apple's Shakira is certainly opposable but is she really (to quote @Callisto-moon) "a decent lay"? She deserves to be favourite and 11/4 or 3/1 is not outrageously short imo. If the Fred Winter shows that the Irish juveniles are far better than the home team, or far worse, then things may look different on the day.
Report Callisto-moon February 24, 2018 10:48 PM GMT
we all value decent differently.
Plenty to oppose her with.
Not at all suggesting she has no chance but think she shone early
and now others are throwing their hat in the ring.
Report ACStafford February 24, 2018 11:44 PM GMT
Redicean looked a class act there to me. I'd make him challenging for favouritism in my book.
Report buddeliea February 25, 2018 7:03 AM GMT
Yeh,hes very good.Jumped better than last time i saw him and showed that turn of foot again.
Think the 2nd could be pretty useful as well given time.
Great day out,bl00dy cold though,but the sun was out and Redicean certainly warmed me up.
Buveur Dair and Might Bite worked after racing which was a bonus,and got some nice photos for my collection.

All for a fiver.....cant be bad.
Report BigField February 25, 2018 1:34 PM GMT
was only a fiver to get in Kempton yesterday? I would have gone had I known!
Report impossible123 February 25, 2018 4:17 PM GMT
Redicean has more gears than Katchit, according his his trainer Alan King. Let's hope he's right (I'm on), and I've not had a "proper" Triumph winner since Mysilv, Oh So Risky and Kribensis - yes, it is that looooong.

6/1 (here) but generally 5/1 with most bookies.
Report ACStafford February 25, 2018 6:37 PM GMT
I think we've already seen he has more gears that Katchit.
Report ACStafford February 25, 2018 6:37 PM GMT
Report RozelKid February 25, 2018 6:40 PM GMT

Feb 25, 2018 -- 4:17PM, impossible123 wrote:

Redicean has more gears than Katchit, according his his trainer Alan King. Let's hope he's right (I'm on), and I've not had a "proper" Triumph winner since Mysilv, Oh So Risky and Kribensis - yes, it is that looooong.6/1 (here) but generally 5/1 with most bookies.

Dont think I've seen another horse finish a race so quick this season . 6/1 on Redicean looks smart EW bet

Report buddeliea February 26, 2018 8:00 AM GMT
Was £20 on the day, but the owners of Kempton and Sandown send me occasional e-mails offering tickets for a fiver.
Got one for the last meeting when Redicean won,one for Saturday,and got another for the Sandown meeting the Saturday before Cheltenham.
Loads of people had them Saturday,so guess you just have to get on their e-mail list.
Report impossible123 February 28, 2018 9:55 AM GMT
Redicean is attracting a lot of supporters here but I'm also looking for a serious saver (a winner). Is Apple's Shakira the real deal? 3/1 (nrnb) is a bit skinny...the 7lbs mares allowance is attractive though.
Report buddeliea February 28, 2018 12:10 PM GMT
You know as much as anyone else on here,take 3's if you fancy the horse.
Tough race as always.
Report Sankara February 28, 2018 12:30 PM GMT
He definitely doesn't.
Report Callisto-moon February 28, 2018 12:34 PM GMT
ive laid apples the price is too skinny for me.
Report impossible123 February 28, 2018 4:12 PM GMT
Her price is extremely punitive for what she's done. I think that is mainly to do with being in the care of Hendo otherwise a more accurate price would be nearer 8/1. Maybe I need to play in-running for a bigger price.
Report morpteh mackem March 8, 2018 3:35 PM GMT
ttt, thread was in danger of getting lost going on to 3rd page.
no news on race so hope didnt scare anyone opening thread. Grin
Report unclepuncle March 12, 2018 12:54 PM GMT
We Have A Dream out of the Triumph.CryCryCry
Report unclepuncle March 12, 2018 5:51 PM GMT
Much to my delight I was able to cash out my stake with B365 so no harm done.
Have switched to Farclas now.
Report BigField March 12, 2018 7:06 PM GMT
:( :( :( :( :( :( typical
Report Giddy March 13, 2018 2:01 AM GMT
Looks like Redicean has been sold. Must have changed hands for a nice few quid
Report impossible123 March 15, 2018 7:14 PM GMT
Apple's Shakira is hot, hot hot but Redicean is on the drift, I wonder why.
Report gpz6316 March 15, 2018 11:43 PM GMT
i d be very surprised if apples shakira can beat redicean . hes very powerful , i know he doesnt have requisite course or going form . power gets you through bad ground and he has the most of it and speed to boot .
Report kavvie March 15, 2018 11:58 PM GMT
gears away.stormy ireland will be that far ahead of them it will be  race for 2nd
Report Big Black Cat March 16, 2018 10:53 AM GMT
Redicean very impressive last time out and King knows whats needed to win the race.
Report impossible123 March 16, 2018 11:07 AM GMT
I hope Redicean can do the business for King as he could do with a winner!

Apple's Shakira is as short as 11/10, crass or JP's money?
Report DECALEC March 16, 2018 11:56 AM GMT
Cash out with 365 was only available on nrnb race's for me,a/p no cash out available you must be the only 1 uncle
Report buddeliea March 16, 2018 12:13 PM GMT
Just had another nibble at 8/1 Redicean.
He just could be something special,just hope the ground dont stop him!!
Report BornToWin March 16, 2018 12:14 PM GMT
I cashed this one out with them. Who needs 10k when 17 squid is a profit Laugh

Bet Confirmation - SB2061632521I - Internet
Time of bet: 13/11/2017 22:06:41
Event Date
E/W Terms
Buveur D'air
Champion Hurdle
(Win And Each Way)
3 Places
1/4 Odds
Presenting Percy
RSA Chase
(Win And Each Way)
3 Places
1/4 Odds
Cheltenham Gold Cup
(Win And Each Way)
3 Places
1/4 Odds

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Stake:  10.00   Return:  17.24
Report BornToWin March 16, 2018 12:17 PM GMT
Redicean for me as well, impressed with all his runs. Moves like an animal with plenty more in the tank.

Has hacked up on heavy at Kempton and won on soft, plus the poor skint bookies need this jolly downed.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! March 16, 2018 1:40 PM GMT
Farclas wins


Report unclepuncle March 16, 2018 1:44 PM GMT
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Report unclepuncle August 19, 2018 4:13 PM BST
Don't fancy that at all Willie.Laugh
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