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splinterboy82
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Entered on Sunday (17/11/13) over both 2m & 2m6f....
This beast is the one i'm most excited about this season....Mullins new superstar?
Took 20/1 Neptune - Can see this going off 5/4f after hacking up in Ireland all season prior to March 2014.

Think Moyle Park will end up being Mullins Supreme horse & Briar Hill heading for AB...

No need to wait until March when you can guess in November ;-)
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Report nickdundee January 28, 2014 11:25 PM GMT
There is no depth in this race and punters will latch onto this unbeaten horse. Backing now at 4/1 and lay your stake on the day at 2/1 6/4 on the day - you now have a free bet, it's as simple as that. The manner in which he won at Limerick was most impressive.

He will go on the ground, the pace of the race will allow him to settle and get into a rhythm better but more importantly the opposition is so weak.

Mullins has a nice line of form against Red Sherlock, Royal Boy is not good enough and would prefer cut. Same with Apache Stronghold, he doesn't want it quick either.

After that, who's left? Captain Cutter?

Sure Reef got done for toe just on the turn and Ruby had to give him a breather and then he stayed on best of all. As mentioned on this thread can see Wylie/Mullins taking their time with Sure Reef, look at Punchestown instead.

Seriously who else could win this race?

Will there even be more than 8 runners declared? Is e/w 1,2,3 quarter the odds at 4/1 not one of the best bets to nothing at this festival???
Report Harvester January 29, 2014 4:29 PM GMT
good point nickdundee..

does anyone know why captain cutter's drifting in this market? is it because people think he will end up in the AB?? .. with mccoy on board, and the lack of depth, surely the Neptune is a great opportunity??
Report Ballydoyle January 29, 2014 5:04 PM GMT
Albert Bartlett for that one the way he powered on in heavy
Report Ballydoyle January 29, 2014 5:06 PM GMT
Got 10-1 Faugheen and 16-1 Tullow Tank and pray they both turn up in this. Can't see much else gettin in the way
Report maelduin January 29, 2014 5:29 PM GMT
"Is e/w 1,2,3 quarter the odds at 4/1 not one of the best bets to nothing at this festival???"

Yes Grin
Report Fallen Angel January 30, 2014 8:55 AM GMT
It's interesting that a number of the forumite's have come to the same conclusion here. I keep looking at the race and struggling to see the significant number of runners. Agree that Faugheen could be a real punt like Pont, So young before him.
Report Ballydoyle January 30, 2014 9:22 AM GMT
Who both lost
Report stevo1 January 30, 2014 10:10 AM GMT
3rd time lucky Bally lets hope!
Report Fallen Angel January 30, 2014 11:39 AM GMT
Couldn't care less about whether they won or lost, its where the price will end up that matters not the result. Surely that is the main point about being on Betfair.
Report BJG January 30, 2014 12:04 PM GMT
The Neptune Investment Management Novices' Hurdle
Class 1, Grade 1, Total Prize Fund £120,000, 1.30pm, Cheltenham, Wednesday, March 12, 2014. Old Course, two miles and five furlongs. For novice four-year-olds and upwards. Weights: four-year-olds 10st 12lb; five-year-olds and upwards 11st 7lb. Allowances: fillies & mares 7lb. Entries closed Tuesday, January 28. Entries revealed Thursday, January 30 (104 entries). Scratchings deadline February 18. Six-day confirmation stage March 6. Final declaration stage 10am, Tuesday, March 11. Form figures supplied by Weatherbys and are correct up to and including the racing of Monday, January 27. May not include some overseas form.

Form  Horse    Age Owner    Trainer
311  ABBYSSIAL (IRE)  4 Violet O'Leary    Willie Mullins IRE
1  AKLAN (IRE)  5 Coach Partnership   Willie Mullins IRE
4-51114 ANGE BALAFRE (FR) 5 High Spirits Racing Club  Noel Meade IRE
133-11 APACHE STRONGHOLD (IRE) 6 Patricia Hunt    Noel Meade IRE
0-145  ART OF PAYROLL (GER) 5 Bishopsgate Syndicate  Dessie Hughes IRE
1/P-2165 ASHES HOUSE (IRE) 8 Diamond Racing Ltd   Rebecca Curtis
12-1223 AZORIAN (IRE)  6 Gigginstown House Stud  Eoin Griffin IRE
1/2-1114 BALLYALTON (IRE)  7 John Westwood   Ian Williams
26-12  BEAT THAT (IRE)  6 Michael Buckley   Nicky Henderson
31312  BLAKEMOUNT (IRE) 6 Jacqueline Conroy   Sue Smith
11-111 BRIAR HILL (IRE)  6 Andrea & Graham Wylie  Willie Mullins IRE
BROXBOURNE (IRE) 5 Seven Barrows Limited  Nicky Henderson
132-111 CAPTAIN CUTTER (IRE) 7 J P McManus    Nicky Henderson
(2)0-2F21 CAROLE'S DESTRIER 6 Mrs C Skipworth   Neil Mulholland
2-02111 CHAMPAGNE WEST (IRE) 6 Roger Brookhouse   Philip Hobbs
23-1101 CITY SLICKER (IRE) 6 J P McManus    Willie Mullins IRE
1-11  CLONDAW COURT (IRE) 7 Susannah Ricci   Willie Mullins IRE
4-3  COCKTAILS AT DAWN 6 Robin Geffen & Sir John Ritblat Nicky Henderson
1631  COGRY   5 Graham and Alison Jelley  Nigel Twiston-Davies
1-1411 COLE HARDEN (IRE) 5 Jill Eynon & Robin Eynon  Warren Greatrex
P  COMPANY COMING (IRE) 6 P P Greaney    Jim Culloty IRE
121U55 CREEPY (IRE)  6 Mark Boothright, T Hanlon, Steve Harman Martin Keighley
4-2  CUP FINAL (IRE)  5 J P McManus    Nicky Henderson
212212 DEEP TROUBLE (IRE) 7 Lady Jane Grosvenor   Ben Case
11-2211 DEPUTY DAN (IRE)  6 Tim Syder    Oliver Sherwood
11-131 DIAMOND KING (IRE) 6 Diana Whateley   Donald McCain
322/5-  DIAMOND LIFE  8 Malcolm Denmark   David Pipe
2-2  DON POLI (IRE)  5 Gigginstown House Stud  Willie Mullins IRE
2-601  DOUBLE IRISH (IRE) 6 Barry Connell    Gordon Elliott IRE
1111  FAUGHEEN (IRE)  6 Susannah Ricci   Willie Mullins IRE
1  FENNELL BAY (IRE) 5 Bloomfields    John Ferguson
5-0  FOURTH ACT (IRE)  5 Jean Bishop    Colin Tizzard
1311  GILGAMBOA (IRE)  6 J P McManus    Enda Bolger IRE
142-103 GILT SHADOW (IRE) 6 David Gordon Roberts  Stuart Crawford IRE
4-13311 GITANE DU BERLAIS (FR) 4 Simon Munir/Isaac Souede  Willie Mullins IRE
2-112  GONE TOO FAR  6 J P McManus    Alan King
5-111  IRISH CAVALIER (IRE) 5 Andrew McIver   Rebecca Curtis
161-112 JOANNE ONE (IRE)  6 Sir Chips Keswick   Jamie Snowden
5-1101P KILLALA QUAY  7 Richard & Susan Perkins  Charlie Longsdon
12F-111 KINGS PALACE (IRE) 6 Drew, George & The Johnson Family David Pipe
(6)-1312 KNOCK HOUSE (IRE) 5 Camilla Radford   Mick Channon
230-141 LAC FONTANA (FR)  5 Potensis Limited   Paul Nicholls
111-311 LEGACY GOLD (IRE) 6 Roger Brookhouse   David Pipe
121  LIEUTENANT COLONEL 5 Gigginstown House Stud  Dessie Hughes IRE
025  LITTLE ROCKY  6 Barry Connell    Dessie Hughes IRE
P1211P MADNESS LIGHT (FR) 5 Mrs T Brown    Warren Greatrex
0622  MIDNIGHT THUNDER (IRE) 5 Brocade Racing J P Romans Terry Warner Colin Tizzard
1F  MIJHAAR   6 Bloomfields    John Ferguson
110  MINELLA FORU (IRE) 5 J P McManus    Eddie Harty IRE
1F12  MOONSHINE LAD (IRE) 6 Brendan Scully   Gordon Elliott IRE
11-13  MOYLE PARK (IRE)  6 Susannah Ricci   Willie Mullins IRE
0-22101 NEW YEAR'S EVE  6 Bloomfields    John Ferguson
014  NOBLE ENDEAVOR (IRE) 5 Chris Jones    Gordon Elliott IRE
131-21 OSCAR HOOF (IRE) 6 The Hoof Partnership   Nicky Henderson
211-123 OSCAR ROCK (IRE)  6 Mr & Mrs G Calder   Malcolm Jefferson
0//3100-2 OUR POLLYANNA (IRE) 7 The Dunkley & Reilly Partnership Alan King
1120  PINK HAT (IRE)  6 Jackie Mullins    Willie Mullins IRE
13  PLEASANT COMPANY (IRE) 6 Malcolm Denmark   David Pipe
3  PORT MELON (IRE)  6 Graham Roach   Paul Nicholls
0-56111 PORTWAY FLYER (IRE) 6 Patrick Kelly    Ian Williams
51F6  PRINCE SIEGFRIED (FR) 8 Bloomfields    John Ferguson
0-4  PRINCE OF LOMBARDY (IRE) 6 Dr Ronan Lambe   Jim Culloty IRE
3100-31 QUICKPICK VIC (IRE) 7 Joseph Duff    Tony Martin IRE
113  RACING PULSE (IRE) 5 Carl Hinchy    John Quinn
41  RAINBOW PEAK (IRE) 8 Bloomfields    John Ferguson
111F2  RATHVINDEN (IRE) 6 Ronnie Bartlett   Willie Mullins IRE
11-1111 RED SHERLOCK  5 The Johnson Family   David Pipe
162424 REGAL DIAMOND (IRE) 6 Roddy Owen, Paul Fullagar & Karen Bowen Peter Bowen
(1)/12-212 REGAL ENCORE (IRE) 6 J P McManus    Anthony Honeyball
12F  RENNETI (FR)  5 Susannah Ricci   Willie Mullins IRE
RIVER OF TIME (IRE) 6 Dr Ronan Lambe   Jim Culloty IRE
1  ROLL IT OUT (IRE)  5 J P McManus    Gordon Elliott IRE
23-311 ROYAL BOY (FR)  7 Michael Buckley   Nicky Henderson
1  ROYAL PLAYER  5 Diana Whateley   Philip Hobbs
1-115  ROYAL REGATTA (IRE) 6 J C Murphy & Mrs L Field  Philip Hobbs
111112 SEA LORD (IRE)  7 Bloomfields    John Ferguson
(1)02-102 SEEDLING   5 Equis & Christopher Spence  Charles Egerton
231  SHANAHAN'S TURN (IRE) 6 Alan & Ann Potts Partnership Henry de Bromhead IRE
4-114  SHANTOU MAGIC (IRE) 7 Owners For Owners: Shantou Magic Charlie Longsdon
251215 SKY KHAN   5 The Unique Partnership  Richard Guest
32-1214 SPIRIT OF SHANKLY 6 Alan Halsall    Charlie Longsdon
424133 SPLASH OF GINGE  6 John Neild    Nigel Twiston-Davies
11  STELLAR NOTION (IRE) 6 Roger Brookhouse   Tom George
U11  SURE REEF (IRE)  5 Andrea & Graham Wylie  Willie Mullins IRE
315  TARA ROAD   6 Nigel Morris    Rebecca Curtis
141-115 THE LIQUIDATOR  6 Roger Brookhouse   David Pipe
451-111 THE TULLOW TANK (IRE) 6 Barry Connell    Philip Fenton IRE
40-1311 THREE KINGDOMS (IRE) 5 Bloomfields    John Ferguson
3-11226 TIMESREMEMBERED (IRE) 6 Tim Syder & Sarah Prior  Emma Lavelle
111/0-12 TISTORY (FR)  7 Judy Wilson    Nicky Henderson
212240 TWELVE ROSES  6 Jones Broughtons Wilson Weaver Kim Bailey
(1)30-  UN ACE (FR)   6 Ace In The Pack Partnership  Kim Bailey
133132 UN TEMPS POUR TOUT (IRE) 5 Professor Caroline Tisdall & Bryan Drew David Pipe
205-113 UPAZO (FR)   6 Philip Reynolds   Willie Mullins IRE
22-22S1 URANO (FR)   6 Mrs M McMahon   Willie Mullins IRE
1211  URBAN HYMN (FR)  6 Mr & Mrs Graham Calder  Malcolm Jefferson
1211-15 URTICAIRE (FR)  6 Gigginstown House Stud  Willie Mullins IRE
61-11  VALSEUR LIDO (FR) 5 Gigginstown House Stud  Willie Mullins IRE
22-11  VAUTOUR (FR)  5 Susannah Ricci   Willie Mullins IRE
12-11  VICE ET VERTU (FR) 5 Neville Statham & Family  Henry Daly
12-1132 VICKY DE L'OASIS (FR) 5 Wicklow Bloodstock Limited  Willie Mullins IRE
1110-1 VIEUX LION ROUGE (FR) 5 Prof Caroline Tisdall & John Gent David Pipe
20-11F  WILDE BLUE YONDER (IRE) 5 Maybe Only Fools Have Horses Alan King
52P-111 WILLOW'S SAVIOUR 7 Triple F Partnership   Dan Skelton

104 entries
38 Irish-trained
Report Fallen Angel January 30, 2014 12:09 PM GMT
Interesting that lots of these runners are not even included on the list of horses on betfair's list.
Report duffy January 30, 2014 1:05 PM GMT
Just on that RUK thing earlier in the week....one thing you can take out of it is that Walsh loves Briar Hill  alright.!!
Report duffy January 30, 2014 1:10 PM GMT
Incidentally, Sure Reef didn't get outpaced the other day, you could clearly see watching the race that he appeared to be drifting back through no pressure, he was still pulling shortly before.....and walsh confirmed that he was simply squeezed up and rather than getting into a barging match he decided to allow him to switch round,(which shows in itself that he thought he had plenty of horse), the problem was that they all shifted and he ended up losing far more ground than he anticipated.
Report harry callaghan January 30, 2014 1:22 PM GMT
do you think he will definitely take sure reef to chelt duffy...

looks like he needs to improve plenty to me and not sure the albert bartlett like mullins said would be his bag at this stage...on paper they looked a poor bunch to me on sunday...

i think he will like better ground however and that might see plenty of improvement but if he were to go wouldn't the neptune be the better race for him?? just judging by his keeness
Report duffy January 30, 2014 2:11 PM GMT
I think the Neptune would be the best race for him, like you point out harry, the pulling is quite a key point, going back to Sunday's race, if you look at Walsh's hands as they race a fair bit before they turned in, you could really see just what a grip the horse was taking and for a long way into the race, I thought he was very impressive myself

Don't know what he beat, that's true but the handicapper says one of them was a 140 horse and he gave it a headstart and a beating, with a clear run he'd have won by 6 or 7 lengths

I'm convinced he wasn't outpaced as you would think on first impressions, this deffo wasn't a jezki type moment where he couldn't pick up to stop OC boxing him in and walsh confirmed that on RUK .

Sure Reef is coming into the festival frame quite late in the piece and it and he may miss out in preference to the horses that have been around for longer.

The other thing that could affect his participation is this idea mullins has about a sustained flat campaign, likening him to Simenon.
Report harry callaghan January 30, 2014 3:04 PM GMT
yes read that about simenon...still don't know much about him but he does look a progressive type, however i didn't like the look of the field in that race as had studied it hard looking for an albert bartlett type but couldn't find anything really with any class...

he is certainly work in progress and if offered up at the right price in the neptune on better ground you might consider him but looks more of a long term project, on the other hand he is a tough handicapper off the flat, so they may take him or back off him for the flat...when he learns to settle he may stay alright on the flat...we will see but a bit of an unknown quantity for me to evaluate how i would like too
Report quantize February 2, 2014 5:10 PM GMT
Ricci on The Sunday Forum this morning was saying 2m to 2m 4f. Certainly talking down 3m for Faugheen.
Report mushroom23 February 2, 2014 5:39 PM GMT
Vautour for the 2m, Faugheen the 2m5f and Clondaw Court for the 3miler surely. One of them is gonna bump into Briar Hill but so be it.
Report buddeliea February 2, 2014 5:45 PM GMT
Looks like Mullins has tough opposition for all them mushroom.
Wicklow in the Supreme,sure reef and briar hill in the Neptune and AB-not sure which goes where.
Will Ruby go for all of Riccis??
Report buddeliea February 2, 2014 5:49 PM GMT
Forgot Valseur Lido,he should be in supreme as well,although Gigginstown, so Ruby wont be on him.
Report Tory February 2, 2014 6:48 PM GMT
You'd imagine briar hill will go for the AB. Ruby thinks the world of him and was saying that sure reef is a bit keen.

Sure reef prob wouldn't see out 3m and this way he gets to ride Faugeen and briar hill
Report eric_morris February 2, 2014 10:16 PM GMT
Willie or Wontie. That's Willie or Wontie run in the Neptune .. prizes on offer for those who get it right, but only if he wins as well! Make sure to back him for every race to avoid disappointment and get Evs for him to win any of those races .. amazing value .. or you could wait until his target is declared by which time there will be no value left.

So there we are Evens or a none runner or no value when his target is declared late ... it's a wonderful game for punters is Willie Wontie!
Report alleged22 February 4, 2014 7:14 PM GMT
entered in the delloite but not priced up by the books......
Report buddeliea February 4, 2014 7:15 PM GMT
mullins got loads entered,but which will actually run??
Report CVByrne February 4, 2014 7:17 PM GMT
Goes straight to the festival. Vautour runs in Deloitte
Report buddeliea February 4, 2014 7:32 PM GMT
be interesting if The Tullow Tank runs against Vautour
Report Tory February 4, 2014 7:38 PM GMT
How do you know that CV? Not keen on him not having a prep run to be honest
Report malheureusement February 4, 2014 9:22 PM GMT
I heard at Cheltenham on trials day that Briar goes straight to the Festival without a prep. I would like to see him go for the Supreme.
Report Ballydoyle February 4, 2014 9:58 PM GMT
If Faugheen goes straight to the Festival that's not good for us backers
Report CVByrne February 4, 2014 10:04 PM GMT
Ruby said it on RUK that Vautour will be going for this, also Ricci had said Vautour is likely for this.

Paddy Power said on twitter that's why Faugheen ain't in betting.

Faugheen and Briar Hill have had 3 runs each so they're fine. First Lieutenant won Neptune a few years ago off a break. No strength in depth in either race this year imo. Especially neptune
Report Tory February 4, 2014 10:12 PM GMT
Don't disagree with the above but as Faugheen can be a bit free ideally I'd have liked to see him have a prep
Report Ballydoyle February 4, 2014 10:43 PM GMT
And beat something of note over hurdles also
Report deepingfox February 4, 2014 11:11 PM GMT
More interested in why Faugheen was declared today, if there is no intention of giving him a prep - that makes no sense.
Report Tory February 4, 2014 11:13 PM GMT
Yep, I've been thinking the same
Report Tory February 4, 2014 11:14 PM GMT
Yep, I've been thinking the same
Report Patented February 5, 2014 12:52 AM GMT
Its great reading this thread knowing exactly what's going where. Numerous posters have got it bang on and they certainly appear the more clued in overall....
Report gutfeeling February 5, 2014 1:13 AM GMT
Be 20,000 posts soon, Lets hope it matches the praise/hype heaped upon it.
Report gutfeeling February 5, 2014 1:14 AM GMT
Views.
Report MYLES91 February 19, 2014 11:35 AM GMT
First suggestion that Faugheen is Neptune bound as Mullins admits its his most likely target. 'Can be a bit fresh so 3 miles could stretch' via @BillEsdaile
Report Ballydoyle February 19, 2014 12:01 PM GMT
As with 99% of ante post events a quick look at the betfair odds suggests where he is going. If we didn't have betfair we really wouldn't have a clue what this guy was going to do
Report festivalfanatic February 19, 2014 12:18 PM GMT
I'll be convinced when I see the final declarations!Mischief
Report sintonian February 19, 2014 1:09 PM GMT
It doesn't sound good re Faugheen atm. WPM saying he's not been happy with him lately and they changed his feed last night.

I did wonder why he has not had another run.
Report Tory February 19, 2014 1:34 PM GMT
^^
Yep, looking less than ideal
Report alleged22 February 19, 2014 2:23 PM GMT
he added that he was "great" and "ready to run"
Report splinterboy82 February 23, 2014 11:45 AM GMT
With 365 now going NRNB on all races have saved on Red Sherlock (who looks a nice animal despite that regular tail swish) & Briar Hill just in case something goes wrong with Faugheen - still think he'll end up hacking up like Simonsig did a couple of years back but the right time to save now imo.

Latest view - Faugheen will go off 7/4f - The bookies will be a wee bit scared after the Vautor, Champagne, Fly, Quevega first day bloodbath ;-)
Report bluebirdfan February 24, 2014 1:19 PM GMT
I really don't like the lack of a prep run......or these stories about him being off his food etc etc
Report Fallen Angel February 24, 2014 1:35 PM GMT
@Bluebird, didn't like them one bit either but doesn't appear to have affected his price that much. The price action for Red Sherlock has been a big negative also, didn't know whether this might be a result of slightly drier conditions the last few days or something else. Couldn't find anything in the press. I haven't seen anymore quotes from Mullins on either Faugheen or Vautour. Maybe people are wary of pilling in until the declerations are made and the majority of firms go NRNB on all the other races.
Report Ballydoyle February 24, 2014 2:16 PM GMT
Days since last ran of the Neptune horses :

Name    Last ran
   
Faugheen    74 days
Red Sherlock    46 days
Royal Boy    60 days
Deputy Dan    60 days
Briar Hill    66 days
Un Temps Pour Tout    25 days
Ballyalton    70 days
Rathvinden    46 days
Sure Reef    45 days
Lieutenant Colonel    38 days
Diamond King    63 days
Renneti    75 days
Champagne West    53 days
Gilt Shadow    45 days

Not sure how much of a big deal it is really. Ideally he would have ran but just think he could blow this field away.
Report Ballydoyle February 24, 2014 2:17 PM GMT
Murders Red Sherlock for my money anyway. Obv sent Rathvinden for a sighter and Red Sherlock struggled past him with his tail going like a windmill.
Report The RealDeal February 24, 2014 7:26 PM GMT
Not really sure where the main danger to Faugheen is coming from, don't think there's a lot of betting confidence behind anything. Cool
Report Harvester February 24, 2014 8:43 PM GMT
Keep talking faugheen up guys... I'm looking forward to another easy lay bet like pont Alex last year and sprinter this year!!
Report bluebirdfan February 24, 2014 10:08 PM GMT
Thing with Pont last year was there was viable challengers, I'm not really sure there is this time
Report alleged22 February 24, 2014 10:12 PM GMT
pont was hyped by the stable. faugheen does it all at the track
Report harry callaghan February 24, 2014 10:22 PM GMT
pont alexander got very worked up pre race in the paddock and something was clearly bothering him
Report alleged22 February 24, 2014 10:29 PM GMT
my comment kinda answers your other thread harry with regards faugheens prep, think he has them guessing coz obviously does nothing at home hence the strange schedule, and the lack of ramping from stable like they did to pont last year, diferent horse on the track.
Report harry callaghan February 24, 2014 10:37 PM GMT
you maybe right alleged, he obviously has a huge amount of ability but i think they have prepped him over further because of his jumping, could be wrong or they thought briar hill would be the classier horse hence the preparations...not sure hence the other thread...

this mullins first quote on his bumper



11May13 Punchestown   ( 16 Y ,RPR136 )

He has been working well and was ready to run last year only for a problem to hold him up. I might go for a winners´ bumper with him now and he looks a nice prospect to go novice hurdling with.-Willie Mullins, trainer.
Report splinterboy82 March 8, 2014 8:47 AM GMT
Getting a little worried about this machine now......and these words from Ruby today don't fill me with much confidence!

"I’m set to stay with Faugheeen in the Neptune Novices’ Hurdle. Again, I can only hope to have got this right, because Rathvinden is working like a steam engine right now"
Report stevo1 March 8, 2014 8:50 AM GMT
Faugheen, no reson to change plans goes for Neptune Racing Post today.
Report stevo1 March 8, 2014 8:50 AM GMT
reason Briar Hill to AB.
Report Fallen Angel March 8, 2014 9:23 AM GMT
Maybe Faugheen will be one of those horses that do their stuff on the track rather than a flashy work horse. He looked a beast on his last run, hopefully they have been working on his jumping
Report alleged22 March 8, 2014 9:28 AM GMT
^^^^^^^^^ took the words right outa my mouth ^^^^^
Report sintonian March 11, 2014 9:39 PM GMT
D-day. Good luck all. Not on him for the Neptune but ''Any race at the festival'' market. Have backed Red Sherlock, too.
Report Ballydoyle March 11, 2014 11:16 PM GMT
I have him at 10-1 but very concerned about the ground
Report pedrobob March 11, 2014 11:31 PM GMT
don't think the ground will be at a problem at all.
Bolted up in a good ground point and breezed by useful Empire Of Dirt off a modest pace at Navan in Dec on Good to Yielding ground.
Doesn't look to have an overly soft ground action to me.
Only issue is he can get in a bit tight to a couple of hurdles and still learning to measure them.
Fastest horse in the race (Willie said he was his best bumper last year including Briar Hill), if he jumps clean, will win
Report alleged22 March 11, 2014 11:40 PM GMT
was defo more good than g/soft when he beat josses hill, looking good that form now, yes I know no hurdles were present sint Tongue OutExcitedWink
Report splinterboy82 March 12, 2014 9:32 AM GMT
On train on way down.....he's being smashed up now - 6/4 & shortening.....maybe my original prediction of 5/4f won't be far off!!
Report brandyontherocks March 12, 2014 9:36 AM GMT
Great opening shout all those months ago Splinter
Report harry callaghan March 12, 2014 1:38 PM GMT
machine - well done winners
Report Howdi March 12, 2014 1:39 PM GMT
gold cup possible not short of speed
Report FOYLESWAR March 12, 2014 1:40 PM GMT
great early call sb well done!
Report splinterboy82 March 12, 2014 1:41 PM GMT
BOOOM!!! He is a complete Machine lads - if he could jump he'd be frightening!!!
Report sj March 12, 2014 1:42 PM GMT
OI OI OI
Report Mooono March 12, 2014 1:42 PM GMT
WHO LOVES YA BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Howdi March 12, 2014 1:43 PM GMT
reminded me of denman
Report Mooono March 12, 2014 1:50 PM GMT
Massive well done to the OP though, im overjoyed with my 6/1, so i bet hes currently dancing and loving life
Report Howdi March 12, 2014 1:52 PM GMT
staying hurdling apparently surprised to hear that
Report mr phantom March 12, 2014 1:52 PM GMT
The machine delivered. Well done all backers and contributors to what was an excellent thread
Report quantize March 12, 2014 1:58 PM GMT
Great stuff and well done to everyone who took the gamble ante post for the Neptune at double digit prices.
Report happyhibee March 12, 2014 1:59 PM GMT
Yeah threads like this make this forum one of the best to read all winter
Report unclepuncle March 12, 2014 2:24 PM GMT
Outstanding shout from Splinterboy.Cool

Surely be aimed at the Champion Hurdle next year.
Report quantize March 12, 2014 2:28 PM GMT
Mullins should take Un De Sceux, Annie Power, Vautor, Briar Hill and Faugheen to a racecourse one day when it is closed, give them a proper race over 2m and the winner goes to Champion Hurdle
Report pedrobob March 12, 2014 3:06 PM GMT
wd splinterboy, great call so long ago....
Report sintonian March 12, 2014 4:30 PM GMT
wd Splinter
Report Fallen Angel March 12, 2014 5:58 PM GMT
Just a machine. Hope everyone kept the faith when there were a few market jitters a month ago or so. A very satisfying result
Report festivalfanatic March 12, 2014 7:29 PM GMT
Willie's 2 were the first in the pre-parade ring. Faugheen overshadowed Rathvinden in virtually every respect. Great walker - I love to see horses sway their rear end......Blush
Report cufcno1 March 12, 2014 11:35 PM GMT
Went and seen faugheen in the flesh,im no expert but didn't look the biggest horse in the world so not surprised it stays hurdling ! What a performance though
Report cufcno1 March 12, 2014 11:38 PM GMT
Festival,I seen that,was shaking it's arse all over place,went after the race and it looked as though it had a hard race tbf !
Report deepingfox March 13, 2014 8:56 AM GMT
I believe chasing may be on the agenda next season, and it will be interesting to see how he takes to it.

If he doesn't improve for it, theres a chance he could "do a Big Bucks" and come back to hurdling and win a World Hurdle.
Report Harvester March 13, 2014 9:11 AM GMT
surely champion hurdle next season...??
Report festivalfanatic March 13, 2014 10:01 AM GMT
Willie doesn't appear to hold him in the same regard as either Vautour or Briar Hill. Don't know how he copes with these moderate horses.......Laugh
Report cufcno1 March 13, 2014 10:00 PM GMT
wouldnt mind any of them 3,i agree with the shout for ch !
Report Eeternaloptimist March 13, 2014 10:06 PM GMT
I think the horse is wonderful but he won't win a champion jumping like that in my view.
Report alleged22 March 13, 2014 10:42 PM GMT
if he shows the same disregard for fences....... it could ruin him

tbf I though he jumped loads better for the better ground and the pace of the race, and even when he hits one he,s back on the bridal in a stride, I doubt we have seen the best of this horse yet.....
Report Harvester March 14, 2014 9:47 AM GMT
i agree alleged ... when he hits a hurdle it was like it wasnt even there it's like he's Robohorse! Given his jumping tho' i cant see them putting him over fences next season and i think he will follow the New one's path to CH..

I think Vautour will follow Champagne Fever's path to Arkle..
Report Tory March 15, 2014 4:15 PM GMT
Was a joy to behold being there to watch him strut his stuff. Gave me a few anxious moments with his jumping but he looks a machine
Report bluebirdfan March 18, 2014 9:33 AM GMT
If he could jump a hurdle he'd have won by half of Cheltenham. Be very interesting to hear if any of the Irish contingent know whether he stays hurdling or goes chasing next year
Report Arklearkle March 19, 2014 10:50 AM GMT
I was right over the final hurdle. He didnt step over it but jumped it from a long way back but he landed so far beyond the hurdle it was something else. His flattening of the 3rd last hurdle would have stopped most animals. Immediately after Vautours win WPM said that he, Vautour, would go chasing but was not as definite re Faugheen. It is quite amazing that he said Vautour "was on a different level". One would assume he meant a higher level but perhaps he meant a lower level.
Report duffy March 19, 2014 1:49 PM GMT
He meant a higher one, he was almost dismissive of the notion that faugheen was being compared to vautour, the visual impression of vautours performance was far better than faugheens, it's fair to be impressed by a championship winning performance when it wins in spite of it's jumping, but if it were to run in a CH then his jumping would need to be top class, because of the pace of the race, he won't be running against a bunch of novices, just my opinion though.
Report sj March 19, 2014 5:59 PM GMT
Any news if he's going novice chasing or staying hurdling?
Report Arklearkle May 3, 2014 12:16 AM BST
Gutfeeling wrote on 5th Feb

Be 20,000 posts soon, Lets hope it matches the praise/hype heaped upon it.

I reckon the answer is that he was very much worth it all and I can see many lines written about him over the next twelve months. More amazed than ever that WM still believes Vautour is better than him. Although the novice winners at the festival have a poor record in the CH I can see Faugheen as a major player next March.
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