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Des Pond
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Now set for January, after Groves beat Cox with a hard body shot in the 4th, after a spirited start from Cox. I wonder how the bookies will price it up.
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Report Angela Rebecchi February 17, 2018 11:09 PM GMT
#NEXTGEN LaughLaughLaugh

Well played Georgie boy Love Love seeing CEJ put in his place.
Report mega88 February 17, 2018 11:09 PM GMT
16:95?? Wow hope you got your money's worth though
Report mega88 February 17, 2018 11:09 PM GMT
I'll watch it in youtube in a few mins
Report n88uk February 17, 2018 11:10 PM GMT

Feb 17, 2018 -- 11:08PM, wisewords wrote:


Eubank did exactly the same as he did against BJS. Funny that he said in the presser on Wednesday that he'd never do that again


He needs a new trainer and approach, it's whether Sr will ever agree to it though. Will never do anything at world lever in this setup.

Report tobermory February 17, 2018 11:10 PM GMT
Don't bother
Report jucel69 February 17, 2018 11:11 PM GMT
draw lmfao
Report wisewords February 17, 2018 11:11 PM GMT

Feb 17, 2018 -- 11:10PM, n88uk wrote:


Feb 17, 2018 -- 11:08PM, wisewords wrote:Eubank did exactly the same as he did against BJS. Funny that he said in the presser on Wednesday that he'd never do that againHe needs a new trainer and approach, it's whether Sr will ever agree to it though. Will never do anything at world lever in this setup.


ITV Box Office dream over?

Report tobermory February 17, 2018 11:11 PM GMT
If Groves head was 3ft wide I think Junior would have landed enough to get the decision
Report GRANTCKING February 17, 2018 11:12 PM GMT
£££££££££££££££££££££333
Report GRANTCKING February 17, 2018 11:12 PM GMT
HES TOO BIG, TOO STRONG, TOO EXPERIENECED, THANK YOU TO THE UTTER MUG WHO LAYED MY 6/4 LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Kriskin February 17, 2018 11:12 PM GMT
Groves wins it
Report Kriskin February 17, 2018 11:13 PM GMT
117 - 112
Report Kriskin February 17, 2018 11:13 PM GMT
115 - 112
Report n88uk February 17, 2018 11:13 PM GMT
Well he can still fight mugs on ITV Box Office, but he will never make it to the top level without proper coaching, he has talent, but it's wasted. He has zero ability to adapt.
Report Des Pond February 17, 2018 11:14 PM GMT
Well done Groves, made Eubank look like a novice.
Report tobermory February 17, 2018 11:14 PM GMT
Can't see where junior goes from this .I'm a Celeb , maybe
Report SontaranStratagem February 17, 2018 11:14 PM GMT
Was very comfortable for Groves. Pity Eubank didn't do that r12 earlier.
Report pauliow February 17, 2018 11:15 PM GMT
I expected better from Jnr, he was crap.
Report tictacman1 February 17, 2018 11:15 PM GMT
George Groves has apparently sustained a shoulder injury in the last round....
Report tictacman1 February 17, 2018 11:16 PM GMT
The judges scores were 117-112, 116-112 and 115-113, so five, four and two-round margins.
Report inrunninggg February 17, 2018 11:16 PM GMT
5.6  points   st george   yippee
Report inrunninggg February 17, 2018 11:16 PM GMT
gtg  its been a pleasure!!!!
Report Des Pond February 17, 2018 11:17 PM GMT
Eubank is definitely not as good a boxer as his father, and doesn't have the punch either.
Report pauliow February 17, 2018 11:18 PM GMT
Spot on Des
Report Des Pond February 17, 2018 11:18 PM GMT
I wasn't spot on with my bet, though. Laugh
Report tobermory February 17, 2018 11:19 PM GMT

Feb 17, 2018 -- 11:13PM, n88uk wrote:


Well he can still fight mugs on ITV Box Office, but he will never make it to the top level without proper coaching, he has talent, but it's wasted. He has zero ability to adapt.


No audience for him fighting no names

Report pauliow February 17, 2018 11:19 PM GMT
Me neitherLaughLaugh
Report casemoney February 17, 2018 11:19 PM GMT
Was more Chance JNR knocking the ref out ...
Report GRANTCKING February 17, 2018 11:19 PM GMT
desy baby I told u u would do ur nuts on euwank
Report n88uk February 17, 2018 11:20 PM GMT
Jr will sell on name alone. Look how he sold vs absolute mugs. "IBO" world title innit. Can still look great vs plodders, but no-one should buy it really, but reality is they will.
Report Des Pond February 17, 2018 11:20 PM GMT
Expected better from Eubank to be honest, thought he would at least land a few flurries,  and make George work harder. The experience and better fundamentals counted in the end.
Report pauliow February 17, 2018 11:20 PM GMT
Well done Grant. I'm off catch you later
Report Des Pond February 17, 2018 11:21 PM GMT
Yes, grant you were right. Happy
Report wisewords February 17, 2018 11:21 PM GMT
Duke and Prince Naseem keep calling him "Eubanks" haha.
Report tobermory February 17, 2018 11:21 PM GMT
Love how Duke and Naz saying Eubanks, after Senior dropped the s in 1989. He hates that
Report mega88 February 17, 2018 11:22 PM GMT
Eubamk wants a rematch WTF
Report n88uk February 17, 2018 11:22 PM GMT
Nas and Eubank used to have beef didn't they, but I'm sure it's all made up for publicity in their cases.
Report Des Pond February 17, 2018 11:23 PM GMT
I feel a bit stupid for believing in Eubank, I knew groves was a better fighter and bigger and stronger, yet I didn't act on it. that's the way it goes sometimes.
Report tobermory February 17, 2018 11:23 PM GMT
Me too Des
Report SontaranStratagem February 17, 2018 11:24 PM GMT
George Groves has done well to come back from that 2nd Froch loss tbh, he's earned respect just for that, to come back and win world titles and improve is testament to the lad. he's defiantly brushed his defence up since that loss.
Report casemoney February 17, 2018 11:24 PM GMT
He will be back People will pay to watch him right Fight ..
Report tobermory February 17, 2018 11:24 PM GMT
You could take my annual boxing stakes and raise a family of pandas or something
Report tobermory February 17, 2018 11:25 PM GMT
I like Naz as pundit
Report SontaranStratagem February 17, 2018 11:26 PM GMT
Des I thought Eubank would do more as well, but he looked totally wild and out of his depth from r3 onwards. Groves the better boxer, pity its only in hindsight Sad
Report Des Pond February 17, 2018 11:27 PM GMT
Ah well, hope Bivol can get me back in the game against Barrera. Happy
Report tobermory February 17, 2018 11:28 PM GMT
Naz tipped Junior , now totally trashing him
Report Des Pond February 17, 2018 11:29 PM GMT
Yes sanatarm, he was really wild. disappointing from him. Wasn't even close in the end.
Report n88uk February 17, 2018 11:31 PM GMT
Jr's problem is all setup and camp, he has tools to be good fighter, but doesn't have anyone around him that helps him get to that level. We will see if they realise it after this, but in reality they will probs just go back to fighting a few plodders looking amazing getting the casual hooked again and chase BJS rematch or something.
Report a bitofinterest February 17, 2018 11:32 PM GMT
naz done his nuts,maybe he should make a comeback the fat git
Report tobermory February 17, 2018 11:35 PM GMT
Naz says Junior should retire
Report tobermory February 17, 2018 11:35 PM GMT
Really hope they bring Senior on with Naz
Report GRANTCKING February 17, 2018 11:35 PM GMT
LaughLaughLaugh prince naseem has lost massive here, hes had 60k+ on eubank
Report pan07 February 17, 2018 11:35 PM GMT
naz **** brill no chance of a sky contract
Report TINnotaTON February 17, 2018 11:37 PM GMT
Biggest joke was that 115-113 scorecard, must have been drinking grantckings beer
Report tobermory February 17, 2018 11:37 PM GMT
I suppose Degale v Junior is plausible
Report GRANTCKING February 17, 2018 11:37 PM GMT

Feb 17, 2018 -- 11:37PM, TINnotaTON wrote:


Biggest joke was that 115-113 scorecard, must have been drinking grantckings beer


CoolCoolGrin

Report TINnotaTON February 17, 2018 11:38 PM GMT
LaughLaughLaugh
Report GRANTCKING February 17, 2018 11:38 PM GMT
Laugh the bastard too my last can!
Report GRANTCKING February 17, 2018 11:38 PM GMT
took
Report TINnotaTON February 17, 2018 11:39 PM GMT
groves's paid for more Silly
Report tictacman1 February 17, 2018 11:40 PM GMT
Instead of celebrating victory, George Groves has gone straight to the Manchester Royal Infirmary to check out the damage to his shoulder.
Report GRANTCKING February 17, 2018 11:40 PM GMT
Grin he did
Report GRANTCKING February 17, 2018 11:44 PM GMT
naseem is speaking absolute sh ite here, I was allover groves here but this boy naz has lost big and speaking pish
Report GRANTCKING February 17, 2018 11:45 PM GMT
"I think he should retire" lol why, he can def win a middleweight world title, nobody in that division has any power, what risk is it to him to carry on?
Report TINnotaTON February 17, 2018 11:46 PM GMT
agree, talking ****, he's probably hungry, lightheaded
Report pan07 February 17, 2018 11:48 PM GMT
he moved up from middlewweight coz its stacked Laugh
Report tobermory February 17, 2018 11:49 PM GMT
GGG has no power? How many beers you had ffs ?
Report GRANTCKING February 17, 2018 11:54 PM GMT

Feb 17, 2018 -- 11:49PM, tobermory wrote:


GGG has no power? How many beers you had ffs ?


didnt have canelo in any trouble did he, im beginning to think GGGs power is overated

Report GRANTCKING February 17, 2018 11:55 PM GMT

Feb 17, 2018 -- 11:49PM, tobermory wrote:


GGG has no power? How many beers you had ffs ?


and yeh ive had a decent amount of beer, didnt cloud my judgement tho Laugh

Report pan07 February 17, 2018 11:55 PM GMT
not when it lands on muppets like eubank and brook
Report Zazu February 17, 2018 11:57 PM GMT
Naz speaking the truth.

Duke mckenzie talking about going back to the the drawing board and learn to box. He's 28....
Report tobermory February 17, 2018 11:57 PM GMT
Canelo has an iron chin
Report pan07 February 17, 2018 11:58 PM GMT
naz right tho eubank learnt **** all since bjs fight exposed big time
Report tobermory February 17, 2018 11:59 PM GMT
He will fight DeGale . Loser goes on I'm A Celeb
Report pan07 February 18, 2018 12:00 AM GMT
amir khan for me battle of the dorks
Report Angela Rebecchi February 18, 2018 12:02 AM GMT
BJS Canelo and GGG will all teach CEJ a lesson. Great to see him put in his place tonight.
Report pan07 February 18, 2018 12:03 AM GMT
moved up to avoid not gonna happen
Report Angela Rebecchi February 18, 2018 12:08 AM GMT
He'll go where the money is. If he can't get a Groves rematch he'll drop and try to fight BJS if he gets done by the winner of Can GGG rematch winner.
Report GRANTCKING February 18, 2018 12:10 AM GMT

Feb 18, 2018 -- 12:02AM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:


BJS Canelo and GGG will all teach CEJ a lesson. Great to see him put in his place tonight.


Grin

Report pan07 February 18, 2018 12:12 AM GMT
hes totally exposed now but the mups could still pay
Report GRANTCKING February 18, 2018 12:17 AM GMT
tbh, I absolutely hate eubank, because of the sheer arrogance hes showned in his career, but I geniunly believe at middleweight in his proper divisiopn he can win a world title amir khan style
Report Captain carnage February 18, 2018 12:21 AM GMT
CEJ would improve for a proper trainer but he doesnt have `the talent' people are saying.

He is a fringe world class middleweight who put up a game but pretty hopeless effort against a proper world class
super middle.

He is all heart and fitness. His defence is crude, footwork slow. He comes forward in straight lines and leaves his chin out to dry. His hand speed is ok, He lacks one punch power at world level. He doesnt know how to work inside against classy rangier fighters like Groves.

He is being placed and hyped like a talentless `towie' star. Fair play, make a few million.
Report Captain carnage February 18, 2018 12:34 AM GMT
How does Eubwank win a world title at middleweight at middleweight GRANT?

He gets beat by GGG easily, schooled/knocked out by Canelo, beat on points by BJS, beat by easily by Jacobs.
Charlo batters him as does Andrade.
Report Captain carnage February 18, 2018 12:36 AM GMT
He is 8-10 th best in the world at middleweight.

And because of strength in depth probably 6-8th at super middle!
Report GRANTCKING February 18, 2018 12:58 AM GMT
I guess he better retire then, u filled ur boots like me on groves at odds against them I take it? if he cant win a middleweight he had zero chance at super middle
Report maleuk01. February 18, 2018 8:58 AM GMT
I thought Naz was excellent, highlight of the evening. Says how it was and how he felt like lots of us do at times. He bought into the hype, like I did and to then see a performance like that and you realise that's all it was, just hype.

Obv done his coconuts on Eubank. LaughLaugh

Still a lot of what he said was right, Eubank was really shown up to be average with very little skill and not great power against the top boxers. He isn't a spring chicken either, at 28 he is only 1 year younger than Groves.

Though maybe not retire, could have a few pay days, domestic fights etc, but against genuine world class boxers or even boxers just a level below top world class like Groves who can pick up a tittle with the right fight on the right night. Then he has no chance.
Report mesmerised February 18, 2018 11:40 AM GMT
He needs to grow some balls get rid of his dad who has been trying to re-live his own career through his son and in the process, take all the limelight, then get some proper trainers in, Groves did well to not allow Eubank to get near him with his excellent footwork.
Report jon b February 18, 2018 2:36 PM GMT
He def needs a corner team and a much better cut man than that one last night who hardly kept any pressure on that cut every time, Prob is Eubank thinks he,s the real deal, nowt to learn etc, One score card had it 2 rounds diff, ridiculous  but we,ve seen all that before, I reckon that fight could hold the record for most AIR SHOTS in a 12 rounder, Eubank looked like a complete amateur and was totally outclassed, his moment of glory in the last was only because Groves had one hand to use, I didn't  notice at the time the problem tbh. P Nas highlight of the night for me, maybe to harsh for his own good and prob cost himself future jobs but brutally hinest and spot on ref Jr
Report The Bhoys February 18, 2018 3:00 PM GMT
Thought nassem was right about junior, he never got near groves all fight, he was swinging like mad to no result genuinly made to look bad at times, when did he say GGG has no power LaughLaughLaugh
Report Des Pond February 18, 2018 4:19 PM GMT
It was a terrible display fron Jnr. His footwork was about the worst I've seen at any level and he was swinging wildy like a 15 year old. It was an easy win for Groves really. I'm annoyed with myself more than anything for buying in to the hype. I knew that Groves was a better boxer, bigger, stronger, smarter and more experienced, yet I still allowed myself to believe that Eubank's charisma, speed and athleticism would be enough. It's a lesson for me. Look at fights logically and use your knowledge. All of my losses in boxing have been in big fights which are surrounded by a lot of hype. Bellew - Haye, Davies v Taylor and this one. In future I will have to take a much more pragmatic and logical view, or avoid these types of fights altogether.
Report Captain carnage February 18, 2018 6:51 PM GMT
Des its `boxing' not track or cycling. You talk about charisma (wtf has that got to do with anything), speed and athleticism. Why isn't Usian Bolt a footballer or boxer? Because he's nowhere near good enough at the skills required to get to the top in those sports.

Yes Grant I had a 500-3k Groves points win and then had another 3k for him to win at odds against when Eubank was clearly wary of Groves power in rounds 1 and 2 and couldn't close the distance.

Just so it ain't aftertiming I would advice a substantial bet Canelo to beat GGG by decision 9/4 in the rematch. He is a superior `boxer', realises GGG is unlikely to floor him and with improved workrate should win most rounds. There is myth circulating that GGG won the first fight decisevely. That simply wasnt the case. Unless you count punches that land flush on opponents gloves as scoring shots it was a very tight fight and Canelos work was crisper/cleaner and more powerful.
Report maleuk01. February 18, 2018 7:36 PM GMT
Some of Eubank's punches where closer to hitting the judges rather than Groves.
Report Des Pond February 18, 2018 7:54 PM GMT

Feb 18, 2018 -- 6:51PM, Captain carnage wrote:


Des its `boxing' not track or cycling. You talk about charisma (wtf has that got to do with anything), speed and athleticism. Why isn't Usian Bolt a footballer or boxer? Because he's nowhere near good enough at the skills required to get to the top in those sports. Yes Grant I had a 500-3k Groves points win and then had another 3k for him to win at odds against when Eubank was clearly wary of Groves power in rounds 1 and 2 and couldn't close the distance.Just so it ain't aftertiming I would advice a substantial bet Canelo to beat GGG by decision 9/4 in the rematch. He is a superior `boxer', realises GGG is unlikely to floor him and with improved workrate should win most rounds. There is myth circulating that GGG won the first fight decisevely. That simply wasnt the case. Unless you count punches that land flush on opponents gloves as scoring shots it was a very tight fight and Canelos work was crisper/cleaner and more powerful.


Where was your prediction mate? I must have missed it! It's easy to come on here after the event, and tell everyone else where they went wrong, and how much "money you made". Try putting up predictions for loads of fights before the event, not just the big fights after the result is known. Then people might be able to take you seriously. Otherwise you would appear to be just another Monday morning Quarterback.

Report wisewords February 18, 2018 11:26 PM GMT
You tell him Des. Bloody aftertiming fool.
Report a bitofinterest February 18, 2018 11:48 PM GMT
^^^^^^^ Laugh
Report Callisto-moon February 19, 2018 1:01 AM GMT
bit of a question, I had junior to win the entirw tourn, its ob settled as a loser
But the talk of him taking groves place in the final if his shoulder not good.
if he pulls off the miracle and wins woulf they have to re settle the bets?.
Report Senyatta February 19, 2018 4:08 AM GMT
haye still won a round on one leg to be fair. guess we will know more in the rematch. if he doesn't get injured he will likely ease to a points win over tony.
Report GRANTCKING February 19, 2018 6:51 PM GMT

Feb 18, 2018 -- 11:26PM, wisewords wrote:


You tell him Des. Bloody aftertiming fool.


Laugh

Report Callisto-moon February 20, 2018 12:17 PM GMT
we have a new boxer in the mix brahmer is out.
Report GRANTCKING February 20, 2018 4:35 PM GMT
Laugh oh my
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