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IrisDeBalme
31 Jan 16 22:48
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I think he has National written all over him - not sure whether he will be entered but I have my fingers crossed tightly, obviously on the face of it there seems to be serious stamina issues with this horse... but cant get around his run in the Skybet Chase... came from a long way to nearly grab the spoils.

What I like about this horse he is a relentless galloper and he can jump, and very easily gets into a rhythm.  Only one bookie betting on him but for me I hope he gets declared for this marathon trip... think he is more than capable on his going day.

Owner Hywel Jones - you took a gamble on 3m and was right... I am hoping he starts pondering further ...

Good Luck
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Report Howdi January 31, 2016 11:15 PM GMT
one problem.....the fences ffs Excited
Report shockster February 1, 2016 10:30 AM GMT
He's very consistent and the Handicapper knows him, but he makes so many mistakes and even with the much easier fences you'd want odds against him actually completing for a start.
Report shockster February 1, 2016 11:59 AM GMT
Buywise will be entered in the Grand National @AintreeRaces after having surprised @EWilliamsRacing @DoncasterRaces. Not for me but this should make you happy IDB Happy
Report IrisDeBalme February 2, 2016 5:14 PM GMT
Thanks Shockster - that is great news... will start backing him... as one of my main hopes...

Convinced he can make his presence felt!
Report Steamship February 2, 2016 11:01 PM GMT
With you here Iris I put him as a GN horse on Saturday. Definite place claims.
Report Roger The Butler February 3, 2016 7:20 AM GMT
I know Buywise has had a different jock for the last two races, but assuming he has Paul Moloney back on for the National he'd be a fun bet. Moloney's National record is insane - hasn't he been placed in the last six nationals, or 6 of the last 7?

Williams knows what he is doing with the race too. Always has something showing up at the end.
Report IrisDeBalme February 3, 2016 11:03 PM GMT
Bit annoying headline page on racing post - surely price will start to shorten ... which will be a shame...

But owner got odds of 350/1 on Saturday for the Grand National, when I checked betfair on Sat/Sunday saw 94/1 and thought it was a bit short considering...

but you snooze you lose!
Report antony_27 April 5, 2016 9:24 PM BST
Possible jockey Paul Moloney has finished in the first 4 places for the last 7 years in a row! so i def hope that he gets the ride on this horse! outstanding record for a race of this nature where so much luck is involved
Report sewter lives again April 5, 2016 9:37 PM BST
I will be amazed if this horse completes the course, whether Moloney rides or not.
Report jasey April 5, 2016 9:46 PM BST
Can you really see positives for backing this
I even think the price is to short.
Report antony_27 April 5, 2016 9:53 PM BST
Its the Grand National, anything can happen lol just look at those no-hopers Mom Mome at 100/1 in 2009 and Auroras Encore 66/1 in 2013!
Report jasey April 5, 2016 9:57 PM BST
They weren't no hopers they had loads of positives.
Report antony_27 April 5, 2016 10:09 PM BST
Why on earth were they such huge outsiders in the betting then? even mystic meg with her magic crystal ball would have struggled to pick out either of those two winners
Report Roger The Butler April 5, 2016 10:12 PM BST
On the stats, Mon Mome was one of only 7 or 8 horses that could win.

Not sure about Aurora's Encore, but Mon Mome definitely was a decent stats pick.
Report jasey April 5, 2016 10:25 PM BST
Yeah Auroras was a good stats horse.
I backed both of them Ante Post as did loads on here m8.
They were hardly from fashionable yards with big owners maybe that had something to do with it.
Report screech April 6, 2016 2:05 AM BST
Wasn't Mon Mome favourite for the Welsh National that year ?
Report Regular Fries April 6, 2016 8:11 AM BST
He was indeed, 9/2 favourite no less!

I was on course that day and I'm pretty sure he was like a 40/1 chance for the week running up and I was in disbelief when it was resulted SP 100/1.

Auroras Encore was a real spring horse, second in a Scottish National.

There really aren't many in the field of 40 that you wouldn't look back at their form if they won come Saturday evening and found nothing in there to suggest they could win it.
Report IrisDeBalme April 7, 2016 5:35 PM BST
PAUL MOLONEY aboard - can't really complain with that

Did an EACH WAY on him @66s

I know it's the national but I am really happy with my bet... Wouldn't swap him for anyone...
Report antony_27 April 7, 2016 5:55 PM BST
Paul Moloney is looking to finish in the first 4 places for an unbelievable 8th year in a row so he definitely knows his way around the course!!
Report Charlton2005 April 7, 2016 8:00 PM BST
80 for as much as you like. not sure i would be happy with 67?
Report PJay April 8, 2016 11:35 AM BST
Evan Williams: "I wouldn't be confident at all whether he will stay or whether he will jump"
Report jasey April 8, 2016 11:40 AM BST
Not like a trainer to state the bleeding obvious.
Report Dan Chipowski April 8, 2016 11:04 PM BST
he can jump, and very easily gets into a rhythm

Having read this part of the opening post, you'd have to question whether he's ever seen Buywise run? Plain
Report Ibrahima Sonko April 8, 2016 11:12 PM BST
read an in depth story about the horse, they claimed some metal was put into his back that connections meant he needed a few fences to warm up.
Report PJay April 9, 2016 12:20 AM BST
Yeah he has metal plates in a back leg that prevents him jumping as well as we should.
Report IrisDeBalme April 9, 2016 10:17 AM BST
trainer was unconvinced about the distance last time out in the Skybet Chase - but ran on the insistence of the owner... he did say owner proved him wrong.

The national again is owners initiative... but a horse that was running on like a train in the Skybet does suggest stamina may not be as a bigger issue than what has been suggested.
Report IrisDeBalme April 10, 2016 9:06 PM BST
Strange interview with trainer and jockey beforehand... were so negative about the horses chances... never seen that where they were wondering why they even turned up...

Anyway, rain scuppered his chance totally - as stamina came into play because of the soft ground... disappointing as I thought id get the place at least!
Report jimmythewon March 12, 2017 11:20 AM GMT
If the losing betting slips on Grand National runners which "stay forever and jump super" were piled up, the litter would reach to top of the stands. Buywise? Doesn't even qualify on either of thee  score.Convert the GN into a manageable problem by eliminating the 3 mile chasers (no matter how good) which have never shown any sign of staying 3m4f let alone the GN distance. Over the years you will show a profit.
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